RE: irradiated thyroid and HRT

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, when one of our hormone glands stops functioning as it

should, mostly all the other remaining hormone glands start to malfunction too,

so it is good to be with a doctor who understands this and starts to treat the 'whole'

of his patients and not just their dysfunctional thyroid status.

Often with hypothyroid sufferers, they are oestrogen dominant with

low progesterone, if this is your case, you should try a course of natural

progesterone in the form of Serenity progesterone cream to balance out the sex

hormones. Using progesterone, if this is the problem, can work almost

miraculously and you will feel changes for the better very quickly.

Be guided by him.

Luv - Sheila

All my sex hormones are lower than normal, but that would be expected in a

middle age woman going through menopuase. I am sluggish and feel like I am

wading through water most days, but I put this down to the hypothyroid (it was

irradiated some 32 years ago - so I really don't have one to speak of)

Would appreciate any thoughts

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Oh he sounds great, bet he is private and in London lol

Anyway good luck with it whatever you decide to do. I didn't do well with the

hrt but I know many do and my mum was wonderful on it.

From another menopausal woman,

luv Dawnx

>

> , when one of our hormone glands stops functioning as it should, mostly

> all the other remaining hormone glands start to malfunction too, so it is

> good to be with a doctor who understands this and starts to treat the

> 'whole' of his patients and not just their dysfunctional thyroid status.

>

> Often with hypothyroid sufferers, they are oestrogen dominant with low

> progesterone, if this is your case, you should try a course of natural

> progesterone in the form of Serenity progesterone cream to balance out the

> sex hormones. Using progesterone, if this is the problem, can work almost

> miraculously and you will feel changes for the better very quickly.

>

> Be guided by him.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

> All my sex hormones are lower than normal, but that would be expected in a

> middle age woman going through menopuase. I am sluggish and feel like I am

> wading through water most days, but I put this down to the hypothyroid (it

> was irradiated some 32 years ago - so I really don't have one to speak of)

>

> Would appreciate any thoughts

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sheila

Thank you for your response. he put me on Utrogestan ( progesterone)to start and

I was very dizzy on that. Now we are switching to Duthaston which I believe is

banned in the UK - is also synthetic. I will also be taking testosterone and

estrogen. What I don't understand are the blood tests. My sex hormones are in

the mid range of readings ( maybe on the low side?):

estradiol 14pg/ml (10- 50)

Progesterone 0.78ng/ml (0-1)

testosterone 251pg/ml (80 - 350)

When I saw Dr. T, I was in a hypo fagtiue haze. I could barely concentrate and

left everything to his expertise without question. I just have second thoughts

about the dangers we all hear about cancer and stroke related to HRT. Am I more

liekly to get cancer because of the irradiation of my thyroid - which I

undersatnd is a risk later on in life. In his book he explains it's the balalnce

that's important, which was reiterated in person. Any thoughts on this?

I am confused about bio identicals which everyone praises , yet here I am being

given a synthetic. Other arguments I hear from British doctors on your list is

that it doesn't matter if you take sythetic or otherwise - they work the same on

the body.

Help - very confused!

Often with hypothyroid sufferers, they are oestrogen dominant with low

progesterone, if this is your case, you should try a course of natural

progesterone in the form of Serenity progesterone cream to balance out the sex

hormones. Using progesterone, if this is the problem, can work almost

miraculously and you will feel changes for the better very quickly.

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Thanks Dawn

He is private but not in London. How long has your mum been on HRT?

Any negative side effects at all?

>

> Oh he sounds great, bet he is private and in London lol

> Anyway good luck with it whatever you decide to do. I didn't do well with the

hrt but I know many do and my mum was wonderful on it.

> From another menopausal woman,

> luv Dawnx

>

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Hello ,

I have just gone onto bioidentical hormones - recommended by my Dr here in

ville, Fl due to what I thought was yet more problems with my thyroid

medication not working as it should.

A little history first:

Diagnosed as hypot(multiple nodules) in 2006 with autoimmune Hashi's. Started

with Synthroid (T4) and this worked well for me until last summer following an

abscessed tooth root. Added some Cytomel (T3) to my Synthroid and this helped a

great deal but it took six months for me to get over the abscessed tooth and

correct my thyroid levels.

Fast forward to today........ came back from at trip abroad on January 10th not

feeling 100%. Thought I just needed rest and to eat properly at home. Food is

an extremely important part of being hypot I have found. As is exercise. And

environment.

I started experiencing PMS, depression,irritability....! I am 62 this summer

and have been in menopause since 2006! Went to see my Dr and she smiled and

said your Hormones are acting up we need to test them .

Got the results back 10 days ago - hormones are low and I need HRT. Dr T has

put me on bioidentical Progestrone in tablet form, and a mix of both Estrogens

(Estradial and Estriol) and Testosterone made up in a cream form. The cream

also contains, Yam, Olive Oil and coconut oil, vitamin E oil, grapeseed oil,

hyalauronic acid and squaline (apparently a moisturiser).

These have been made up for me by a compounding pharmacist my Dr recommends/uses

and have been made up to my requirements based on my tests. I have not seen the

actual prescription that Dr T sent to them but I do know she based the

prescription on my actual hormone test results.

I have been taking these hormones for exactly one week (nightly). After the

first night I felt marginally better the next day.... within another 24 hours it

was like the light bulbs were burning bright and my brain was alert and I felt

calmer. As each day has gone by so I have improved a little bit more until now

one week later I am feeling a lot more like my old self. This stuff really

works.

About 10 years ago when we lived in the UK my then GP wanted to put me on

synthetic HRT. I declined because I didn't feel comfortable with synthetic

hormones..... a lot of bad press at that time. I am sure they have changed

since then. And now I take synthetic thyroid hormone ..... hmm go figure!!?

Actually I needed thyroid treatment while in the UK but never got it.

Since 2002 Bioidentical Hormone Therapy has very much come to the fore. My

current Dr is very much a holistic physician and did not give me a choice - she

went straight for bioidentical. I have been reading as much as I can find about

bioidentical hormones and came across a book which I recommend to you.......

The Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe M.D.

Even if you have trouble concentrating on the whole book just go for the

sections about the particular hormone your Dr has put you on - it really is

amazing how much information there is in this little paperback. If you use the

Kindle app then you might be able to find it in Kindle form.....just a thought.

It sounds , that you have an excellent Endo as he wants to put you on a

similar regimen to what I am on. What does he think about bioidentical

hormones? I have no idea what the cost would be in the UK - over here it's

costing me just under $100 a month and I don't know yet if my insurance will

cover part of that. I have to contact them and see.

I see he's moving you from L-thyroxine to Erfa.....that's interesting. Last

December when i saw my Endo he mentioned I might be better off on Armour. I see

him again next month - I must follow up with him on this one.

As one last parting shot - I do believe the reason I was able to lose 53lbs was

because I finally got my thyroid under control, changed my diet to what my body

needed and then pushed myself into heavy exercise at a gym. The combo for me is

really working. But the devil is that each one of us is unique and we have to

find that magic combo that presses all the buttons for us.

If you'd liked to stay in touch or ask any other questions as I go forward with

BHRT feel free to do so. I am not on this forum very often but each time I do

drop by I always learn something.

Take care and good luck,

>

> Hello Everyone

>

> I am relatively new and have just come back from my endo who is known for his

anti aging approach. Turns out I am 5 times more hypothyroid than I should be -

while being labeled as normal on the NHS ( TSH 1.8) He is transitioning me from

Levothyroxin to Efra. In additon to a vitamin/mineral regime he has put me on

HRT ( estrogen, testosterone, progesterone balance).

>

> My brief to him was to treat the thyroid in order to control my obesity.

>

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Ahhh, once mum got on what she called 'the right one' it was great. Just some

sharp breast pains I remember she mentioned occasionally. I will however mention

now that she is under treatment for her second brain tumour:(( now I am not

saying it was caused by the HRT, the neurosurgeon says they are still

researching the causes.

Pharma is a bad ol thing tho in hindsight sometimes.

luv Dawnx

PS good luck with the DR

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> Thanks Dawn

>

> He is private but not in London. How long has your mum been on HRT?

> Any negative side effects at all?

>

>

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Hello

Thank you so much for your reply. It does indeed sound like we are on similar

treatments.

My Dr is in fact, Dr H who wrote the book you spoke of. I held back his name

because I wanted an unbiased view of bioidentials. AS it turns out , I reacted

to the first lot of progesterone( very dizzy and drop in blood pressure) and I

will be put on a synthetic now. He is not against synthetics it seems as some of

them work well. Ididn't press him about this on the day I saw him because I was

in such a brain fog and in such fatigue after travelling all day to see him,

that I was pretty much going on his expertise and not questioning anything.

He has me on a very strict diet - no wheat dairy and he is big on foods cooked

at low temperature only - 90C - as this is where the rise in cnaer risk comes

from apparantly. Bread has to made from sprouted grains - 100g of red meat 4

times every week and loads of veg and fruit. The upside is I can eat what I like

a max of 2 days per week - not so bad.

I too believe that once my thyroid is under control, the weight will come off as

my diet is pretty healthy, but I do get salt and sugar cravings ( or at least

had - not so much now that I'm on this plan). I also ate from despondency at

times since I had deteriorated into staying at home in front of the TV since

that was pretty much all I had energy for. Cooking and cleaning even became

quite a challenge. I've dropped 5 lbs in 10 days since I have started the switch

in thyroid therapy.

I would very much like to stay in touch and hear your progress. I am still

nervous about the HRT/cancer thing, so having an HRT buddy would be a boost to

my confidence about it. I am probably where you wre 6 years ago. I am 56 and

just embarking on the great menopause adventure.

Like you, I don't often come on this board, but always find interesting bits of

new info.

Can you tell me what your diet was that took off those 53 lbs? ( I have double

that to get off. There is no way I am ready for the gym yet - just walking

around the block without feeling destroyed will be a big improvement for me.

Thanks and best wishes

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> As one last parting shot - I do believe the reason I was able to lose 53lbs

was because I finally got my thyroid under control, changed my diet to what my

body needed and then pushed myself into heavy exercise at a gym. The combo for

me is really working. But the devil is that each one of us is unique and we

have to find that magic combo that presses all the buttons for us.

>

> If you'd liked to stay in touch or ask any other questions as I go forward

with BHRT feel free to do so. I am not on this forum very often but each time I

do drop by I always learn something.

>

> Take care and good luck,

>

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>

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hi there, i have never heard of bio-identical progesterone in tablet form.! they are usually in a suppository or cream.i would be a bit worried about them if it were me. Angel. do some research to see what is in them.!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

bless you Angel for your concern. It's quite normal to get micronized

Progesterone inside a capsule.

Don't forget this has been made up by a compounding chemist based on my own

requirements. I know this compounding chemist as my Dr has had me use them

before.

Also I have been to their office and spoken with the boss about how and what

they do. The literature that comes with the hormones made up by a compounding

chemist have to by law show the exact contents of each prescription even down to

the contents of the capsules!

>

> hi there, i have never heard of bio-identical progesterone in tablet form.!

they are usually in a suppository or cream.

> i would be a bit worried about them if it were me.   Angel.        do some

research to see what is in them.!!!!!!

>

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> Dear Sheila

>

> Thank you for your response. he put me on Utrogestan ( progesterone)to start

and I was very dizzy on that. Now we are switching to Duthaston which I believe

is banned in the UK - is also synthetic. I will also be taking testosterone and

estrogen. What I don't understand are the blood tests. My sex hormones are in

the mid range of readings ( maybe on the low side?):

>

> estradiol 14pg/ml (10- 50)

> Progesterone 0.78ng/ml (0-1)

> testosterone 251pg/ml (80 - 350)

>

> When I saw Dr. T, I was in a hypo fagtiue haze. I could barely concentrate and

left everything to his expertise without question. I just have second thoughts

about the dangers we all hear about cancer and stroke related to HRT. Am I more

liekly to get cancer because of the irradiation of my thyroid - which I

undersatnd is a risk later on in life. In his book he explains it's the balalnce

that's important, which was reiterated in person. Any thoughts on this?

>

> I am confused about bio identicals which everyone praises , yet here I am

being given a synthetic. Other arguments I hear from British doctors on your

list is that it doesn't matter if you take sythetic or otherwise - they work the

same on the body.

>

> Help - very confused!

>

>

> Often with hypothyroid sufferers, they are oestrogen dominant with low

progesterone, if this is your case, you should try a course of natural

progesterone in the form of Serenity progesterone cream to balance out the sex

hormones. Using progesterone, if this is the problem, can work almost

miraculously and you will feel changes for the better very quickly.

>

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hi, so glad that everything seems OK for you. ! i may be a bit out of touch with HRT , but if you are satisfied then this is all that counts. all the best to you. angel.