Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 To exclude every cause of HTN by testing in every person with HTN would break the bank. DASHIng will "cure" most of it anyway---and in 2 weeks. Problem is to convince folks that diet will do it. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Francis Bill wrote: I may have missed some of her SX in files and other places. Many are listed but some may not be. Some could be side effects of meds. Her question was what other testing should she have done. Both from people I know and google searching I can think of a few other things that her Sx could lead to. There are very few doctors like you that will leave no stone unturned to get a diagnoses. Most will tell you since I don't know what is wrong I can't help. So it is up to us to do research as to what might be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, and > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending on > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a year, > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a neg. > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Do the vision issues come and go or are they their all the time? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 10:20 AM, bridget wrote: for me, I noticed about a month ago that road signs were getting blurry so I saw an eye doctor and my vision has changed so I need glasses now, but as the day goes on my vision changes, so the glasses make things blurry. The headaches don't seem to have anything to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 the vision stuff kind of comes and goes, most days it gets worse as the day goes on, everything seems to get blurry towards the end of the day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to > > have a > > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just > > frusterated, > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 No such luck, I thought perhaps they were aura-like (migraines) but in the beginning, I only had the vision thing, no headaches.. Now I get a headache now and then but it isn't one of my main symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 See as I increase the salt, I get eyelid swelling. As in embarrassing... I just did a fluviral video with my sister (she is a nurse) and we discussed the vaccine etc. for her patients. I watched the video in horror.... My upper eyelids are so puffy!!! No edema otherwise. Eyeball changes as well? I've seen my optometrist and the vision changed slightly in that eye. I'm due to see an optamologist to see if he can figure it out. ie. if a pituitary gland tumor could affect the optic nerve (aldosterone symptoms as well) and they've ordered a second CT scan of the brain but the radiology tech. suggested an MRI instead so I'm holding off and seeing if my dr. will order the MRI... My vision flucuates as well.... I had extra floaters etc. during my pregnancy as well.(supposedly in pregnancy the estrogen/fluid retention can reshape the eyeball and cause vision changes?) I had the retina checked two months ago and it appears healthy so far-no hemorrhaging etc.... Keep me posted Chantal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I am not talking about HTN. Some of her sx are like someone that has Sarcoidosis. My brother has Sarcoidosis. Not that I think she has it but is just one of the things some sx are the same as. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, and > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending on > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a year, > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a neg. > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 sarcoidosis has so many Sx they are not a good way to dx. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Oct 17, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Francis Bill <georgewbill@...> wrote: I am not talking about HTN. Some of her sx are like someone that has Sarcoidosis. My brother has Sarcoidosis. Not that I think she has it but is just one of the things some sx are the same as. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, and > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending on > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a year, > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a neg. > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (26) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Recent Activity 4 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Next time you see an eye Dr ask him to specifically look for HTN in your eye vessels. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 10:39 AM, bridget wrote: the vision stuff kind of comes and goes, most days it gets worse as the day goes on, everything seems to get blurry towards the end of the day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to > > have a > > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just > > frusterated, > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Are the better when BP is lower or worse? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Chantal wrote: No such luck, I thought perhaps they were aura-like (migraines) but in the beginning, I only had the vision thing, no headaches.. Now I get a headache now and then but it isn't one of my main symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Good. Research suggests that by grading the retinal closely from photos one can predict who will get an increase in BP with age. But most don't do this as it takes special training. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Chantal wrote: See as I increase the salt, I get eyelid swelling. As in embarrassing... I just did a fluviral video with my sister (she is a nurse) and we discussed the vaccine etc. for her patients. I watched the video in horror.... My upper eyelids are so puffy!!! No edema otherwise. Eyeball changes as well? I've seen my optometrist and the vision changed slightly in that eye. I'm due to see an optamologist to see if he can figure it out. ie. if a pituitary gland tumor could affect the optic nerve (aldosterone symptoms as well) and they've ordered a second CT scan of the brain but the radiology tech. suggested an MRI instead so I'm holding off and seeing if my dr. will order the MRI... My vision flucuates as well.... I had extra floaters etc. during my pregnancy as well.(supposedly in pregnancy the estrogen/fluid retention can reshape the eyeball and cause vision changes?) I had the retina checked two months ago and it appears healthy so far-no hemorrhaging etc.... Keep me posted Chantal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 With my brother it was a eye doctor that made the diagnoses. He had many tests done before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for > > Conn's, and > > > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate > > depending on > > > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > year, > > > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have > > a neg. > > > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm > > beginning to > > > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (26) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > > Calendar > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > > format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > RECENT ACTIVITY > > 4 > > New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Give Back > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I have had what I am told is eye migraines. Last about 20 minutes so far have had it 3 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Do you have a headache afterwords? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Francis Bill wrote: I have had what I am told is eye migraines. Last about 20 minutes so far have had it 3 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate depending > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have a > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm beginning to > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 You can see it in the eyes classically but most Drs don't look carefully. Called mutton fat deposits as I recall. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Francis Bill wrote: With my brother it was a eye doctor that made the diagnoses. He had many tests done before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for > > Conn's, and > > > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate > > depending on > > > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > year, > > > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to have > > a neg. > > > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just frusterated, > > > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm > > beginning to > > > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (26) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > > Calendar > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > > format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > RECENT ACTIVITY > > 4 > > New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Give Back > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 No headaches but am told by eye doctor headaches are always part of this at least at first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for Conn's, > > > > > and I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate > > depending > > > > > on the time of day, month, because I have been miserable for a > > > > > year, but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to > > have a > > > > > neg. result for conn's and actually have it? I am just > > frusterated, > > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm > > beginning to > > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sarcoidosis is a disease that causes inflammation of the body's tissues. Inflammation is a basic response of the body to injury and usually causes reddened skin, warmth, swelling, and pain. Inflammation from sarcoidosis is different. In sarcoidosis, the inflammation produces small lumps (also called nodules or granulomas) in the tissues. The inflammation of sarcoidosis can occur in almost any organ and always affects more than one. Most often, the inflammation starts in either the lungs or the lymph nodes (small bean-shaped organs of the immune system). Once in a while, the inflammation occurs suddenly and symptoms appear quickly, but usually it develops gradually and only later produces symptoms. Sarcoidosis usually is a mild condition and does not result in lasting harm to tissues. In most patients, the inflammation that causes the granulomas gets better with or without treatment and the lumps go away. In others, however, the lumps do not heal or disappear, and the tissues remain inflamed. If untreated, these tissues can become scarred. The tissue is then called " fibrotic. " But even those who need treatment can usually lead a normal life. The cause of sarcoidosis is not yet known— there may be several. For instance, an abnormal response from the immune system may be involved. (The immune system normally attacks and eliminates foreign substances, such as bacteria, that enter the body.) Once thought rare, sarcoidosis is now known to be common and affects persons worldwide. In fact, sarcoidosis is the most common chronic fibrotic interstitial lung disorder. (Chronic illnesses are those that last for some time or recur often; interstitial lung diseases affect the tissue that surrounds the air sacs, blood vessels, and air passageways.) > You can see it in the eyes classically but most Drs don't look > carefully. Called mutton fat deposits as I recall. > May your pressure be low! > > > > Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD > > Specializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of > " Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure " . > > Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent > evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the > effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today. > > Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. > > > On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Francis Bill wrote: > > > With my brother it was a eye doctor that made the diagnoses. He had > > many tests done before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for > > > > Conn's, and > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate > > > > depending on > > > > > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable > > for a > > > > year, > > > > > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to > > have > > > > a neg. > > > > > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just > > frusterated, > > > > > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm > > > > beginning to > > > > > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (26) Reply (via web post) | Start a new > > topic > > > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > > > > Calendar > > > > > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | > > Switch > > > > format to Traditional > > > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > RECENT ACTIVITY > > > > 4 > > > > New Members > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I have that badly and it is symptom of Lyme disease. Val Vision- more like i'm wearing sunglasses and i have fingerprints blocking my vision on one side only plus some extra floaters on that side. Chantal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 TVM Francis, Is it like the lumps you get on joints and you rub them and they go away? Is the inflam always in lumps? Can it manifest just as a sore joint? Regards Re: test results Sarcoidosis is a disease that causes inflammation of the body's tissues. Inflammation is a basic response of the body to injury and usually causes reddened skin, warmth, swelling, and pain. Inflammation from sarcoidosis is different. In sarcoidosis, the inflammation produces small lumps (also called nodules or granulomas) in the tissues. The inflammation of sarcoidosis can occur in almost any organ and always affects more than one. Most often, the inflammation starts in either the lungs or the lymph nodes (small bean-shaped organs of the immune system). Once in a while, the inflammation occurs suddenly and symptoms appear quickly, but usually it develops gradually and only later produces symptoms. Sarcoidosis usually is a mild condition and does not result in lasting harm to tissues. In most patients, the inflammation that causes the granulomas gets better with or without treatment and the lumps go away. In others, however, the lumps do not heal or disappear, and the tissues remain inflamed. If untreated, these tissues can become scarred. The tissue is then called " fibrotic. " But even those who need treatment can usually lead a normal life. The cause of sarcoidosis is not yet known- there may be several. For instance, an abnormal response from the immune system may be involved. (The immune system normally attacks and eliminates foreign substances, such as bacteria, that enter the body.) Once thought rare, sarcoidosis is now known to be common and affects persons worldwide. In fact, sarcoidosis is the most common chronic fibrotic interstitial lung disorder. (Chronic illnesses are those that last for some time or recur often; interstitial lung diseases affect the tissue that surrounds the air sacs, blood vessels, and air passageways.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Don't need this info here. Must be some Sarcoid sites folks can go to.Please refer them there.Thanks May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Francis Bill wrote: Sarcoidosis is a disease that causes inflammation of the body's tissues. Inflammation is a basic response of the body to injury and usually causes reddened skin, warmth, swelling, and pain. Inflammation from sarcoidosis is different. In sarcoidosis, the inflammation produces small lumps (also called nodules or granulomas) in the tissues. The inflammation of sarcoidosis can occur in almost any organ and always affects more than one. Most often, the inflammation starts in either the lungs or the lymph nodes (small bean-shaped organs of the immune system). Once in a while, the inflammation occurs suddenly and symptoms appear quickly, but usually it develops gradually and only later produces symptoms. Sarcoidosis usually is a mild condition and does not result in lasting harm to tissues. In most patients, the inflammation that causes the granulomas gets better with or without treatment and the lumps go away. In others, however, the lumps do not heal or disappear, and the tissues remain inflamed. If untreated, these tissues can become scarred. The tissue is then called "fibrotic." But even those who need treatment can usually lead a normal life. The cause of sarcoidosis is not yet known— there may be several. For instance, an abnormal response from the immune system may be involved. (The immune system normally attacks and eliminates foreign substances, such as bacteria, that enter the body.) Once thought rare, sarcoidosis is now known to be common and affects persons worldwide. In fact, sarcoidosis is the most common chronic fibrotic interstitial lung disorder. (Chronic illnesses are those that last for some time or recur often; interstitial lung diseases affect the tissue that surrounds the air sacs, blood vessels, and air passageways.) > You can see it in the eyes classically but most Drs don't look > carefully. Called mutton fat deposits as I recall. > May your pressure be low! > > > > Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD > > Specializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of > "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". > > Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent > evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the > effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today. > > Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. > > > On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Francis Bill wrote: > > > With my brother it was a eye doctor that made the diagnoses. He had > > many tests done before that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: test results > > > > > > > > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a blood test on monday to look for > > > > Conn's, and > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if the results could fluctuate > > > > depending on > > > > > > > > the time of day, month, because I have been miserable > > for a > > > > year, > > > > > > > > but there are days when I feel okay, is it possible to > > have > > > > a neg. > > > > > > > > result for conn's and actually have it? I am just > > frusterated, > > > > > > > > every test for everything has come back fine and I'm > > > > beginning to > > > > > > > > feel like it's all in my head... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messages in this topic (26) Reply (via web post) | Start a new > > topic > > > > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > > > > Calendar > > > > > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | > > Switch > > > > format to Traditional > > > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > RECENT ACTIVITY > > > > 4 > > > > New Members > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I was on Lisiniprol, but off for a week before the blood work, and on 150 mg of toprol during the test. > > Okay, so I got my test results, > My aldo was <1.6 and my Renin was 2.0 > Does this mean I don't have PA????? > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 You were on medications and I have no idea if it can affect the lab values. Can't 's or Cushings cause low aldo and renin ? And I know Cushings causes uncontrolled hypertension.I think 's is the opposite. I still think you shoud see an endo.I know how frustrating it is to go thru test after test and have no answers but it is out there and you will find it. An endo knows alot more about this and I hope u can find a really good one who will evaluate you well. Please keep us posted,Lori From: bridget <blueyes7648@...>Subject: Re: test resultshyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:08 AM I was on Lisiniprol, but off for a week before the blood work, and on 150 mg of toprol during the test.>> Okay, so I got my test results, > My aldo was <1.6 and my Renin was 2.0> Does this mean I don't have PA?????> Bridget> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I am still going to see an endo, I have been thinking cushing's as well, addison's causes low bp. do you know how they figure the ARR value? Bridget > > > > Okay, so I got my test results, > > My aldo was <1.6 and my Renin was 2.0 > > Does this mean I don't have PA????? > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I am not sure but I know there are alot of folks on here that do. This is all still new to me but a,Val, and Francis Bill seem very knowledgeable and can surely tell you. Dr. Grim would definately know. Cushings has alot of similar symtoms to Conns or PA. There are several support sites. I wish you the best of luck on your road to diagnosis. Lori From: bridget <blueyes7648@...>Subject: Re: test resultshyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:28 PM I am still going to see an endo, I have been thinking cushing's as well, addison's causes low bp. do you know how they figure the ARR value? Bridget> >> > Okay, so I got my test results, > > My aldo was <1.6 and my Renin was 2.0> > Does this mean I don't have PA?????> > Bridget> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Obviously the ratio can change a lot with very low renin like 0.2. If that's in error say really 0.4 , it halves the ratio. I question the very low values in my case. Seems getting close to the error of the test. Regards Re: test results hyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:28 PM I am still going to see an endo, I have been thinking cushing's as well, addison's causes low bp. do you know how they figure the ARR value? Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 How sure are you of the numbers. 1.6\2 gives you a ratio of .8 Ratio needs to be 20 or higher to say you have PA > > Okay, so I got my test results, > My aldo was <1.6 and my Renin was 2.0 > Does this mean I don't have PA????? > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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