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Hi, Sheri,

>However, I'm

?only a long term patient and no medical expert. Perhaps iodine

>can be in a nuclear state, too. Ask one of the experts we are so lucky to

>have here.

Yes, there are both radioactive and non-radioactive isotopes of iodine.

For a thyroid test, for instance, radioactive iodine is used - the thyroid

will concentrate the iodine (including radioactive iodine) if its working

well, clearing it from the blood.

For a blood volume test, a compound with a radioactive iodine in it would be

used, to avoid the thyroid uptake. Any suitable radioactive isotope could be

used - metastable technecium 99mTc is common.

For something like a CT scan, non-radioactive iodine is used (actually a

compound that has several iodine atoms in it). Here the function of the

iodine is just to absorb Xrays, which it does very efficiently. Any area

that has the iodine dye in it will come out brighter than bone even.

Jerry

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> " Anyone who runs sub-normal temp - who has cold extremities - should

> consider trying the iodine patch. This is not a " patch " as such, but

> rather, you paint a patch of iodine-- NOT BETADINE- on yourself. I have

> always had a " Normal " temp of 96.5 to 97. Last Nov & Dec for 5weeks, I

> " did " the iodine patch and my temp gradually climbed to normal. >>

Ron,

This is of great interest to me as trying to remain healthy after my thyroid

was " nuked " out has been journey, not a destination. BTW, thanks for all

your links to the net... your a regular www.wizard.

Terri L.

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> " Anyone who runs sub-normal temp - who has cold extremities - should

> consider trying the iodine patch. This is not a " patch " as such, but

> rather, you paint a patch of iodine-- NOT BETADINE- on yourself.

Why is BETADINE a bad idea?

ph Brabet.

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is it possible you just started an inflammatory reaction with enough

momentum to kill off some or all of the the fungus? That is that the

lugols and msm wasn't really what helped , you could have used

anything that would have irritated the skin

:On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:59:18 -0700, you wrote:

>>Interesting - too early to tell but yesterday after reading the iodine thing,

I took some lugols and mixed it with MSM. About the only problem I have

remaining that is bothering me is a bad case of jock itch type rash on my left

upper thigh and groin area. very annoying and sometimes brought under control

by Be'ing, Cs and MSM but still flares up regularly. Very angry looking

especially around the edges.

>>Anyway, I rubbed the Lugol's/MSM mix on the rash 3 times yesterday. it burned

like H... the first 2 times and then lessened until today it got less and less

with each application (4 today). Tonight, the angriness around the edges has

all but disappeared and looks like it is on the mend. I will keep you posted!

>>Best wishes and much love, Ken

>>

>>Ken Gullan

>>Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

>>San Diego, CA 92106-2424

>>IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

>>To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104

>> Re: ONE MINERAL/MANY CONDITIONS

>>

>>

>> Donna,

>>

>> Weren't you taking Lugol's Iodine? Are you still taking it and what

results

>> have you had? Am thinking about buying some Lugol's and would like to

know

>> your input. thanks

>>

>> Barbara

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Thank you, Bill. I've been trying to read up on iodine lately as I have

become very hypo thyroid & have immune issues. I don't know where to go

for the iodine loading test. There is a simple skin test & I've been

trying to find the instructions for that again. I didn't see that listed

below. I just bought some Lugols, but haven't started yet as I worry

about being stupid with taking something. Here's a caution:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/vitaminsupplement/a/iodine_2.htm?terms=thyroid+iodin\

e

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

> " Fluoride in tap water and toothpastes as well as chlorine in

> tap water both block iodine receptors in the thyroid gland that

> result in lowered thyroid hormone production. "

> ( http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp

> <http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp> )

>

> http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html

> <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html>

>

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On Monday 02 October 2006 1:59 am, Apricot85 wrote:

> Thank you, Bill. I've been trying to read up on iodine lately as I have

> become very hypo thyroid & have immune issues. I don't know where to go

> for the iodine loading test. There is a simple skin test & I've been

> trying to find the instructions for that again. I didn't see that listed

> below. I just bought some Lugols, but haven't started yet as I worry

> about being stupid with taking something. Here's a caution:

Where do you buy Lugols' Iodine?

--

Steve - dudescholar2@...

" If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still

march on. "

--Stopford

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Hi:

I take

<http://www.edgarcayce.org/health/database/chdata/data/thatomi1.html>Atomidine

from the Edgar Cayce organization. Atominine is 1% iodine

trichloride and seems to work well.

At 07:24 AM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>On Monday 02 October 2006 1:59 am, Apricot85 wrote:

> > Thank you, Bill. I've been trying to read up on iodine lately as I have

> > become very hypo thyroid & have immune issues. I don't know where to go

> > for the iodine loading test. There is a simple skin test & I've been

> > trying to find the instructions for that again. I didn't see that listed

> > below. I just bought some Lugols, but haven't started yet as I worry

> > about being stupid with taking something. Here's a caution:

>

>Where do you buy Lugols' Iodine?

>

>--

>

>Steve - <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

>

> " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must still

>march on. "

>--Stopford

>

>

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I remember reading about a skin test using iodine for wounds-- you paint a

circle (quarter size?) on the skin of your abdomen. If it is gone within so

many hours, 24?, then you need it. If the circle remains, your body

supposedly has enough iodine. Md's pedaling newsletters wrote about it,

maybe one named ?

Another test involves placing a thermometer under your arm (in the armpit

area) before getting out of bed in the morning. If temp is below normal, you

are low thyroid. I would think you do it for three consecutive mornings when

you're feeling well.

Jess

Re: Iodine

Hi:

I take

<http://www.edgarcayce.org/health/database/chdata/data/thatomi1.html>Atomi

dine

from the Edgar Cayce organization. Atominine is 1% iodine

trichloride and seems to work well.

At 07:24 AM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>On Monday 02 October 2006 1:59 am, Apricot85 wrote:

> > Thank you, Bill. I've been trying to read up on iodine lately as I

have

> > become very hypo thyroid & have immune issues. I don't know where to

go

> > for the iodine loading test. There is a simple skin test & I've been

> > trying to find the instructions for that again. I didn't see that

listed

> > below. I just bought some Lugols, but haven't started yet as I worry

> > about being stupid with taking something. Here's a caution:

>

>Where do you buy Lugols' Iodine?

>

>--

>

>Steve - <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

>

> " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must

still

>march on. "

>--Stopford

>

>

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Hi:

Please note that temp ranges for first waking test are lower than

98.6. Here is a summary of the test and some recommend that the

temp be measured at waking (no activity not even to get out of bed at

all, no ingestion of any fluids or food, not even water) and then at

3 and 6 hours after waking. The reference temp after waking would be

98.6 F and at waking 97.8 - 98.2. If consistently 0.4 F below

normal, some treatment is advised:

At night, shake down a thermometer - be sure that it is shaken down

and below 95 degrees. Next morning, on awakening, put the thermometer

under your arm with the bulb in the armpit with no clothing between

it and the armpit. Leave it there for 10 minutes (use snooze alarm if

you wake up to an alarm). Just drowse for that time lying still.

After 10 minutes, take the thermometer out, and read it, writing down

the result right away. (On waking, most people don't think clearly

and might forget the reading). This is known as your Early AM Basal

Temperature, and the " normal " should be between 97.8 and 98.2. This

reading taken by armpit is somewhat lower and somewhat more accurate

than by mouth. If you have a low-grade infection this may read higher

than your " normal " , therefore if it is in that range above, you

should repeat the above procedure every other day for a week or so.

If a menstruating female, also do it on the 2nd and 3rd day of your period.

If lower than the range, you are probably hypothyroid, and if higher,

then you are probably hyperthyroid (or you have an infection somewhere).

<http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp>Here is an interesting site that

discusses the combination of adrenal and thyroid support, since

metabolism rates can be modulated by either.

At 11:13 AM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>I remember reading about a skin test using iodine for wounds-- you paint a

>circle (quarter size?) on the skin of your abdomen. If it is gone within so

>many hours, 24?, then you need it. If the circle remains, your body

>supposedly has enough iodine. Md's pedaling newsletters wrote about it,

>maybe one named ?

>

>Another test involves placing a thermometer under your arm (in the armpit

>area) before getting out of bed in the morning. If temp is below normal, you

>are low thyroid. I would think you do it for three consecutive mornings when

>you're feeling well.

>Jess

> Re: Iodine

>

>Hi:

>

>I take

><<http://www.edgarcayce.org/health/database/chdata/data/thatomi1.html>http://ww\

w.edgarcayce.org/health/database/chdata/data/thatomi1.html>Atomi

>dine

>from the Edgar Cayce organization. Atominine is 1% iodine

>trichloride and seems to work well.

>

>

>

>At 07:24 AM 10/2/2006, you wrote:

>

> >On Monday 02 October 2006 1:59 am, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > Thank you, Bill. I've been trying to read up on iodine lately as I

>have

> > > become very hypo thyroid & have immune issues. I don't know where to

>go

> > > for the iodine loading test. There is a simple skin test & I've been

> > > trying to find the instructions for that again. I didn't see that

>listed

> > > below. I just bought some Lugols, but haven't started yet as I worry

> > > about being stupid with taking something. Here's a caution:

> >

> >Where do you buy Lugols' Iodine?

> >

> >--

> >

> >Steve - <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

> >

> > " If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march to truth we must

>still

> >march on. "

> >--Stopford

> >

> >

>

>

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Another item that chelates flouride is boron. It is a good alternative

for those who cannot safely do iodine without hyper montoring it. It

also balances hormones and causes really strong bones. Just google

boron for lots of info. I have used Tri-Boron by twin labs with success.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

>

> " Fluoride in tap water and toothpastes as well as chlorine in

> tap water both block iodine receptors in the thyroid gland that

> result in lowered thyroid hormone production. "

> ( http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp

> <http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp> )

>

> http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html

> <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html>

>

> Iodine for Health

>

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Trish,

Prior to using Lugol's, make sure you are not allergic to iodine.

That's the most important advice. But assuming you are not, you

might consider using Lugol's as a veggie wash to start slowly with

it. One drop per quart of water & soak veggies for 1 minute.

-Lori

>

> >

> > " Fluoride in tap water and toothpastes as well as chlorine in

> > tap water both block iodine receptors in the thyroid gland that

> > result in lowered thyroid hormone production. "

> > ( http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp

> > <http://www.iodinesource.com/ThyroidGland.asp> )

> >

> > http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html

> > <http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html>

> >

>

>

>

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Thanks Lori. That sounds like a more natural way to mix with plant

nutrition. Presumably there's a reason I shouldn't try treating by just

painting on my skin(?)

houyhnhnm10 wrote:

> Trish,

> Prior to using Lugol's, make sure you are not allergic to iodine.

> That's the most important advice. But assuming you are not, you

> might consider using Lugol's as a veggie wash to start slowly with

> it. One drop per quart of water & soak veggies for 1 minute.

> -Lori

>

> -

>

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I was convinced to try the temperature thing when I learned that how

warm your feel is not necessarily how the thermometer will read. You

can feel hot, but the thermometer reading may show you are cold & below

normal temps.

I prefer the digital thermometer... it beeps when it's ready. I'm

averaging 96.5 upon waking, & when taken in the doc office I'm 97

something. I just had my adrenals tested too (saliva test ata

canaryclub.org) ... It is pathetic... I am 50% lower than the lowest

'normal' range for each of 4 time periods in a day. Most docs are

really REALLY bad at knowing anything about adrenals and thyroid too.

If my newest doc doesn't work out I'll figure out a way to go to Dr. Rind.

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Please note that temp ranges for first waking test are lower than

> 98.6. Here is a summary of the test and some recommend that the

> temp be measured at waking (no activity not even to get out of bed at

> all, no ingestion of any fluids or food, not even water) and then at

> 3 and 6 hours after waking. The reference temp after waking would be

> 98.6 F and at waking 97.8 - 98.2. If consistently 0.4 F below

> normal, some treatment is advised:

>

> At night, shake down a thermometer - be sure that it is shaken down

> and below 95 degrees. Next morning, on awakening, put the thermometer

> under your arm with the bulb in the armpit with no clothing between

> it and the armpit. Leave it there for 10 minutes (use snooze alarm if

> you wake up to an alarm). Just drowse for that time lying still.

> After 10 minutes, take the thermometer out, and read it, writing down

> the result right away. (On waking, most people don't think clearly

> and might forget the reading). This is known as your Early AM Basal

> Temperature, and the " normal " should be between 97.8 and 98.2. This

> reading taken by armpit is somewhat lower and somewhat more accurate

> than by mouth. If you have a low-grade infection this may read higher

> than your " normal " , therefore if it is in that range above, you

> should repeat the above procedure every other day for a week or so.

> If a menstruating female, also do it on the 2nd and 3rd day of your

> period.

> If lower than the range, you are probably hypothyroid, and if higher,

> then you are probably hyperthyroid (or you have an infection somewhere).

> <http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp

> <http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp>>Here is an interesting site that

> discusses the combination of adrenal and thyroid support, since

> metabolism rates can be modulated by either.

>

>

>

>

>

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Corny,

The literature I read said celtic seasalt does NOT contain enough

iodine to plentish the body. Guess it's better than nothing, tho, and

I actually use that salt, but will start substituting with lugols

also.

Does anybody know if kelp is good for somebody that's allergic to

iodine?

Does anybody know any product one can take if allergic?

-- In oxyplus , corny100@... wrote:

>

> I just checked the amounts of Iodine occurring in seawater. It

is .064 ppm, which is pretty high on the scale of elements. This means

that it is a pretty important element for all mammals. Keep in mind

that the mineral composition of human blood is nearly identical to

seawater. The best source for Iodine is seawater, or seasalt

(unrefined, like Celtic Seasalt). There should be no allergic reaction

to Iodine from this source.

>

> Corny

>

>

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And this is exactly why some people cannot eat shellfish. The iodine in them

makes them

deathly ill.

>

>

> Re: Iodine

>

>

> > Corny,

> >

> > The literature I read said celtic seasalt does NOT contain enough

> > iodine to plentish the body. Guess it's better than nothing, tho, and

> > I actually use that salt, but will start substituting with lugols

> > also.

> >

> > Does anybody know if kelp is good for somebody that's allergic to

> > iodine?

> > Does anybody know any product one can take if allergic?

>

>

> I find it difficult to believe that someone is allergic to an essential

> nutrient. Rather, I suspect that it's the medium containing the nutrient

> that one is allergic to.

>

> A naturopath told me about a client of hers who couldn't take iodine in any

> of the forms she had been given so far. But then she discovered lobster, a

> food high in iodine. She could safely and comfortably get her iodine intake

> by eating lobster. Of course, that can get expensive ;-)

>

> You may have to experiment.

>

> Nenah

>

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>

> That's weird! Unrefined sea salt contains the perfect ratio of all

the minerals we need. Nothing is removed or added during the

harvesting. What is the source telling you that?

>

> Corny

--------------------------------

The Grain & Salt Society: celticseasalt.com

I quote, " With a natural blanace of minerals and trace elements,

Celtic Sea Salt Brand is a beneficial addition to most diets. As a

natural salt, Celtic Sea Salt Brand is an important source of sodium

chloride, which in small amounts is important for good health. Unlike

ordinary table salts, Celtic Sea Salts Brand provided potassium,

magnesium and other important nutrients. Celtic Sea Salt Brand also

contains trace amounts of iodine, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO MEET DIETARY

RECOMMENDATIONS. "

Gail

>

>

>

>

>

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> Posted by: " corny100@... " corny100@... corny1001

> Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:06 pm (PST)

> That's weird! Unrefined sea salt contains the perfect ratio of all

> the minerals we need.

Prove it...

Not saying you're wrong, but when you make a blanket statement like

that without providing some form of proof, you should expect to be

challenged on it...

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Hi Ken,

Dr Simonicni states that fungal disease can be cured either with sodium

bicaronate or with

Lugols iodine for topical problems. He says that iodine applied to the skin will

cure

psoriasis which he states is fungal. So maybe this is why the iodine/msm seemed

to work

for the jock itch, as it is fungal.

I am in the process of treating my psoriasis with lugols topically and am into

the 2nd to

3rd week and I am seeing some interesting improvement. I am using the same

protocol he

recommends for skin cancer as found on his website.

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

I have been taking it orally for well over a year now and my thyroid function is

slightly up,

had been borderline low, and fibrocystic breast disease is gone. My doctor

approves of

lugols orally, She says she has seen many a case of fibrocystic breast disease

disappear

with its use. I generally take 2 drops about 4 times a week now, but when I

started I used

much more for about 3 or 4 months. Don't remeber how much now, but more like

daily,

probably 5 drops. Have also used it for bladder infection with good results and

for GI

upset one time.

My son applied it to a benign cyst on his neck mixed with DMSO and it went away.

But

after about 8 months it returned so I think he really never got the job fully

done.

Lugols iodine seems to never to cease to amaze me.

Arrow

In oxyplus , " Ken Gullan - IRI " <iri2@...> wrote:

>

> Interesting - too early to tell but yesterday after reading the iodine thing,

I took some

lugols and mixed it with MSM. About the only problem I have remaining that is

bothering

me is a bad case of jock itch type rash on my left upper thigh and groin area.

very

annoying and sometimes brought under control by Be'ing, Cs and MSM but still

flares up

regularly. Very angry looking especially around the edges.

> Anyway, I rubbed the Lugol's/MSM mix on the rash 3 times yesterday. it burned

like H...

the first 2 times and then lessened until today it got less and less with each

application (4

today). Tonight, the angriness around the edges has all but disappeared and

looks like it

is on the mend. I will keep you posted!

> Best wishes and much love, Ken

>

> Ken Gullan

> Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

> San Diego, CA 92106-2424

> IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental

difficulties.

> To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104

> Re: ONE MINERAL/MANY CONDITIONS

>

>

> Donna,

>

> Weren't you taking Lugol's Iodine? Are you still taking it and what

results

> have you had? Am thinking about buying some Lugol's and would like to

know

> your input. thanks

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

>

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Hi all,

Just a quick note--I started mixing iodine with lotion

and rubbing it all over my skin--for the last 2 nites

-- and have slept really well.

LL

--- zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...> wrote:

> Before this all started I had to throw away 12 or so

> new cotton t-

> shirts because they kept getting holes in them.

> Now this 'thing' seems like its gone, and in the

> last few days here

> come the holes in my clothes again....believe me I

> have thought up all

> possibilities, and now I am worried that we might

> have some weird

> cotton parasite or something....has anyone

> experienced this?

>

> Has anyone heard of this? I can't sign up to the

> finding1cure for

> some odd reason my email is not one they will

> accept.....so for those

> who read that forum - have you read anything about

> something eatting

> clothes, during one life cycle

>

> Maybe I am just going Mad :)

>

> z

>

>

>

>

>

>

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LL - if you are using strong clorox solution to soak your clothes that might weaken the threads enough to make holes come in your clothes easier. Maybe if you rinse more than once it should help get the clorox out. Joan

Re: iodine

Hi all,Just a quick note--I started mixing iodine with lotionand rubbing it all over my skin--for the last 2 nites-- and have slept really well.LL--- zmooks <zuleikahwalker > wrote:> Before this all started I had to throw away 12 or so> new cotton t-> shirts because they kept getting holes in them. > Now this 'thing' seems like its gone, and in the> last few days here > come the holes in my clothes again....believe me I> have thought up all > possibilities, and now I am worried that we might> have some weird > cotton parasite or something....has anyone> experienced this?> > Has anyone heard of this? I can't sign up to the> finding1cure for > some odd reason my email is not one they will> accept.....so for those > who read that forum - have you read anything about> something eatting > clothes, during one life cycle > > Maybe I am just going Mad :)> > z> > > > > >

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ZMooks, I wanted to comment on your cotton issue. I read on the scabies forum of a woman in NY in which bought some underwear at a local drugstore. After wearing this cotton, she developed symptoms such as ours. Due to that post I researched cotton. Most of it is genetically modified to combat the boweevil that destroys it from the inside. They are also using PBPR's, or modified parasites to combat the parasites commonly destroying our cotton crops. These practices are not confined to the US and are employed worldwide. Monsato is involved and there are two other companies of which I can not remember their names. I myself believe there is something not right with the cotton on the market and currently don't buy much of it, esp. the cotton with the cotton logo in the tree. My own experience is that cotton seems to harbor these things and nothing I do completely rids them from the cotton. Brushed cotton is the

worst.Lucy Lu <lucylu62@...> wrote: Hi all,Just a quick note--I started mixing iodine with lotionand rubbing it all over my skin--for the last 2 nites-- and have slept really well.LL--- zmooks <zuleikahwalker > wrote:> Before this all started I had to throw away 12 or so> new cotton t-> shirts because they kept getting holes in them. > Now this 'thing' seems like its gone, and in the> last few days here

> come the holes in my clothes again....believe me I> have thought up all > possibilities, and now I am worried that we might> have some weird > cotton parasite or something....has anyone> experienced this?> > Has anyone heard of this? I can't sign up to the> finding1cure for > some odd reason my email is not one they will> accept.....so for those > who read that forum - have you read anything about> something eatting > clothes, during one life cycle > > Maybe I am just going Mad :)> > z> > > > > >

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Can someone clarfiy Dr. P's opinion on iodine please? Have read in his book that he thinks iodine should be supplemented in mcgs but in files this should be higher - sort of backing up Brownsteins work. My daughter's iodine test has come back as very low - this I'm hoping will explain her hypothyroidism. Will be speaking with dr. at next conulstation but in the meantime I'm trying to get informed fully to dicuss this with him. If someone is very deficient in iodine if you add in at a low dose would that be effective over time or do you need to slowly get the levels up and then keep a maintenance dose after then? Have read if someone is very deficient in iodine then if you increase by too much - ie mg instead of mcg then the hypothyroidism will get worse as the body has adjusted to very low doses so can't tolerate as much after then. There is alot of conflicting information out there, am aware of protocol from iodine group but would really like to know what Dr Ps views are on it of at all poss. Be grateful for any feedback/experiences. Thans Janet

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