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This is what we've chose with Ruthie, too. She's almost 21 months and doing

wonderfully. She has a lot of stimulation here and a lot of people to 'work

with' her, she has 5 older brothers and sisters who adore her, spend a lot

of time with her.

I generally lay low in groups because we do things so differently. I bought

books that help me to know what her next milestone should be with ways to

help her to get there properly. Honestly, most of the things in the book are

things that I did with my other kids automatically, we just need to be a

little more deliberate with Ruthie and it takes a little longer, but she's

doing famously.

As I said, she's almost 21 months. She's off the bottle, feeds herself (some

with her hands, some with utensils), is using sign language to communicate

her basic needs, she's crawling on her hands and knees, pulling to a stand

and cruising the furniture. I the last week she's been able to move from one

piece to another even there's a pretty good reach between them (though no

independant steps yet.

She's also beginning to speak. She has a few words she's using regularly

now.

I had everyone telling me from the beginning to immediately get her into

therapy, but I just couldn't do it. She had a pretty large AV Canal defect

and I was really more concerned about that (it was corrected at 4 1/2

months.) If we feel she's not progressing in an area and feel we need some

additional help we'll surely get it, but so far that doesn't seem necessary.

Having the Special Ed degrees will certainly be helpful. My sister in law

has a special ed degree, her specialty is speech therapy. We don't get to

see her often, but she has promised to keep an eye on Ruthie and let us know

if there is anything we can do to help her along.

Enjoy your little one, first and foremost he is a baby. With loving parents

to guide him and champion for him, he'll have everything that he needs!

Sue - northeastern Illinois

>

> Currently my wife and I have taken a planned " head in the sand " approach

> and have not joined support groups, etc. We want to enjoy Ethan in the

> moment without looking into the future challenges, rewards and .

> We are not naive in thinking that this is the best approach but for us it

> works to keep us focused on one day, one physical milestone, and one

> developmental milestone at a time. Thinking about school age, high

> school, adult life is a little overwhelming at this point.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I am new to the list and looking for advise on vaccines.

Fairly recently I've become aware of the dangers of vaccines. My daughter

is going into 6th grade this year and is required to get a new round of shots.

I have been struggling with the decision not to vaccinate. Luckily my kids

(11 & 9) have not had any serious side affects from their previous shots (

although I would suspect that their ADD and asthma are related). I am a

special ed teacher and had heard about the possible link between autism and

vaccines. This prompted me to look in to it further . I was already

interested in

alternative medicine and regularly read things from Mercola and Weston A.

Price. We live in northern VA and was I was wondering if anyone else on the

list is from this area. I would like to hear about the religious exemption and

if the schools have given anyone a hard time. Also I don't know what my ped.

will say about my choice, any doctors in the area that are ok with it?

School starts in two weeks and I am getting more and more anxious about what to

do...I keep going back and forth. I decide not to vaccinate and then something

makes me question my decision. Anyway, I really appreciate your response

and help!

thanks,

Rebekka

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Rebekka,

I encourage you to read Sheri Nakken's website thoroughly.

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Other informative websites are:

http://www.nvic.org/

http://www.thinktwice.com/

http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html

I stopped vaccinating my children right before their middle school vaccines

were due. We got a religious exemption (for Kentucky), and have never been

questioned about it at all.

We gave up conventional doctors around the same time we stopped vaccinating

and now only use homeopathy. Doctors don't have a clue how to maintain true

health. For a trauma or emergency, they may be helpful, but not for health.

All they know how to do is give drugs. True health doesn't come from a pill

or a bottle, it comes from a strong immune system. Vaccines damage the

immune system, rendering it much less able to resist illnesses. They keep

adding more and more vaccines to the recommended schedule, and look what's

happening to the health of children today. It's taking a nosedive! Asthma,

allergies, cancer, diabetes, ADHD, etc. are increasing alarmingly in

children.

You're on the right track. You've come to the right place for support and

information. Most of us have been in your shoes at one time or another. It

helps to discuss your concerns with like-minded parents. So, welcome, and

ask away! : )

Kay

Re: new member

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to the list and looking for advise on vaccines.

> Fairly recently I've become aware of the dangers of vaccines. My

> daughter

> is going into 6th grade this year and is required to get a new round of

> shots.

> I have been struggling with the decision not to vaccinate. Luckily my

> kids

> (11 & 9) have not had any serious side affects from their previous shots (

> although I would suspect that their ADD and asthma are related). I am a

> special ed teacher and had heard about the possible link between autism

> and

> vaccines. This prompted me to look in to it further . I was already

> interested in

> alternative medicine and regularly read things from Mercola and Weston A.

> Price. We live in northern VA and was I was wondering if anyone else on

> the

> list is from this area. I would like to hear about the religious

> exemption and

> if the schools have given anyone a hard time. Also I don't know what my

> ped.

> will say about my choice, any doctors in the area that are ok with it?

> School starts in two weeks and I am getting more and more anxious about

> what to

> do...I keep going back and forth. I decide not to vaccinate and then

> something

> makes me question my decision. Anyway, I really appreciate your response

> and help!

>

> thanks,

>

> Rebekka

[Guest guest]

Rebekka,

I live in No. VA too! (Burke). My son is only 4 mos old, so no

experience with schools yet or with VA's rules about vax. However, I

really like our pediatrician, also in Burke. She is pro-vaccine but not

pushy and has patients in her practice who don't vax or who delay.

She's also OK with some attachment parenting stuff, like co-sleeping;

don't know if you're into that. If you email me off-list, I can give

you her info. Or, depending on where you are, I can look in a couple

places for some other names. The local attachment parenting group has a

list of pro-AP peds in the area, some of them are also flex about vax.

I'm glad I'm able to help. The vax question was the biggest stress I

had in looking for a ped. I'm really glad I hooked up with some local

folks who have similar beliefs. Welcome to the group!

Angie

On Thursday, August 24, 2006, at 09:37 AM, cleob17@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to the list and looking for advise on vaccines.

> Fairly recently I've become aware of the dangers of vaccines. My

> daughter

> is going into 6th grade this year and is required to get a new round

> of shots.

> I have been struggling with the decision not to vaccinate. Luckily my

> kids

> (11 & 9) have not had any serious side affects from their previous

> shots (

> although I would suspect that their ADD and asthma are related). I am a

> special ed teacher and had heard about the possible link between

> autism and

> vaccines. This prompted me to look in to it further . I was already

> interested in

> alternative medicine and regularly read things from Mercola and Weston

> A.

> Price. We live in northern VA and was I was wondering if anyone else

> on the

> list is from this area. I would like to hear about the religious

> exemption and

> if the schools have given anyone a hard time. Also I don't know what

> my ped.

> will say about my choice, any doctors in the area that are ok with it?

> School starts in two weeks and I am getting more and more anxious

> about what to

> do...I keep going back and forth. I decide not to vaccinate and then

> something

> makes me question my decision. Anyway, I really appreciate your

> response

> and help!

>

> thanks,

>

> Rebekka

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Patti. Welcome to the . You came to the right place for information

about the ICD. The range of experiences here should cover just about any cardiac

condition and you can get first hand testimonials about the benefits of the ICD.

I had cardiac arrhythmia for 20 years and no one suggested an ICD. The PCP

called them benign so I went on my merry way taking some minor meds

(hydrochlorothiazide and zestril) and put up with the thumping, the shortness of

breath, the lightheadedness. It got worse and the cardiologist said it was

probably all the supplements I was taking. When I went into sustained v-tach, I

barely held onto consciousness. A new cardiologist admitted me for observation

and when they hooked up the heart monitor, was surprised. There were half a

dozen nurses and docs running between the my room and the monitor. They couldn't

believe I was still conscious. Immediately, they wheeled me to cardiac intensive

care and went on iv meds then underwent an angiogram that confirmed that, yep, I

had a heart problem and a low ejection fraction. I remained in CCU for five days

until I could get the ICD. In six years, the ICD has never fired. Mostly it does

overdrive pacing, capturing the arrhythmia before it goes into sustained v-tach.

Between the ICD, the strict medication regimen, a healthier diet and regular

exercise (walking), my condition has stabilized, the ejection fraction has

improved and the overall quality of life has been pretty good.

Am I a believer in the ICD? You betcha.

My recommendation? Find yourself a GOOD cardiologist and a GOOD

electrophysiologist. You should be able to find some good ones in Baltimore with

lots of experience. How do you find good ones? Ask people who are working in the

field. I was lucky in that my wife was a medical student in her clinical

rotations and she asked the attending physicians at the hospital who they would

recommend. One name kept coming to the top of the list and that's who we went

with. I've never been sorry.

Hope you find this helpful.

Mike

New Member

>

>Hi All,

>

>I'm joining the list to find out information about the ICD. I'm

>also doing some research online today too. I was diagnosed over 20

>years ago with a heart arrthymia (VT). At that time i refused the

>ICD, but recently my doctor is trying to talk me into having the ICD

>inserted. I've been very successful on my medication for the past

>20 years, no episodes of anything....fainting, cardic arrest, etc.

>Now, since i'm getting older (45), i'm thinking maybe I should at

>least research the ICD and see if this is something I should have

>done. I also have high blood pressure, mitral valve prolapse, & a

>family history of sudden death (my sister died at age 32). I was

>always afraid of the " zap " from the ICD. 20 years ago they would

>zap people for no reason and the zap would knock them off their

>feet. Has this improved? How big is the ICD? Is it

>uncomfortable? Any advice or information is appreciated. I'm on

> IM during the day, feel free to post me here, email me, or IM

>me. Thanks in advance!

>

>Patti

>Baltimore, MD

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>Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>http://www.ZapLife.org

>

[Guest guest]

I had an ICD implanted last January and I consider it my insurance policy!!! Right after it was put in, I had a couple of shocks because of sinus tachycardia. They reprogrammed it not to go off except in v fib, which has not yet happened, knock on wood! As for the shocks, they felt like touching a lamp that has a short in it--didn't knock me off my feet or anything, just surprised me.

Brenta

New Member

Hi All,I'm joining the list to find out information about the ICD. I'm also doing some research online today too. I was diagnosed over 20 years ago with a heart arrthymia (VT). At that time i refused the ICD, but recently my doctor is trying to talk me into having the ICD inserted. I've been very successful on my medication for the past 20 years, no episodes of anything....fainting, cardic arrest, etc. Now, since i'm getting older (45), i'm thinking maybe I should at least research the ICD and see if this is something I should have done. I also have high blood pressure, mitral valve prolapse, & a family history of sudden death (my sister died at age 32). I was always afraid of the "zap" from the ICD. 20 years ago they would zap people for no reason and the zap would knock them off their feet. Has this improved? How big is the ICD? Is it uncomfortable? Any advice or information is appreciated. I'm on IM during the day, feel free to post me here, email me, or IM me. Thanks in advance!PattiBaltimore, MD

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

My husband got his first ICD in 1996, it was about the size of a deck of

cards. That one was replaced 7 years later, and the new one was about the

size of 2 silver dollars, stuck together. Much smaller than the first one.

He had one inappropriate shock, caused by a loose lead, he definitely felt

it, but it certainly didn't knock him off his feet. The lead was replaced,

and no more false shocks.

And I am so sorry about your sister, that is just way too young. :*(

New Member

> Hi All,

>

> I'm joining the list to find out information about the ICD. I'm

> also doing some research online today too. I was diagnosed over 20

> years ago with a heart arrthymia (VT). At that time i refused the

> ICD, but recently my doctor is trying to talk me into having the ICD

> inserted. I've been very successful on my medication for the past

> 20 years, no episodes of anything....fainting, cardic arrest, etc.

> Now, since i'm getting older (45), i'm thinking maybe I should at

> least research the ICD and see if this is something I should have

> done. I also have high blood pressure, mitral valve prolapse, & a

> family history of sudden death (my sister died at age 32). I was

> always afraid of the " zap " from the ICD. 20 years ago they would

> zap people for no reason and the zap would knock them off their

> feet. Has this improved? How big is the ICD? Is it

> uncomfortable? Any advice or information is appreciated. I'm on

> IM during the day, feel free to post me here, email me, or IM

> me. Thanks in advance!

>

> Patti

> Baltimore, MD

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

[Guest guest]

most likey your icd wouldn't "zap " for no reason !! as far as weather it would knock you off your feet it depends on weather you get the big "zap " or the little"zap" i have personly had over 1000 needed shocks from two devices goign to be gettign a three'd soon there was only once in this time that i was shocked uinnessacerly and i did need the shock at that time but the device i had was not set up to control the top part of my heart to i dont knwo nor do i think anyone really can say forsure that the icd will shock unnessarly but it is highly unlikely that it shock when it's not supposed to !!!! when i get zap i jump so to speak it does not hurt however i do jump with it ! i have yet to pass out with my rythmaias so i ahvent actally feel or anything it is not the pleasent feeling being zapped but it does not hurt atleast to me !!! thats not to say you wont have a diffrent feeling towards a zap and also the

amount of jiuce you get with the zaps play a big part all of mine have been the big zaps there is three ways your defibrillator will first try and slow your heart down by paceing if that dont work depend on your setting and your heart rate you defibrilator will make a spilt secound well about 1 secound choice on weather to zap the small zap or the big depending on what you doctor has programed and your heart at the time it can choice to procees and try a small "zap" to get you back in normal rythm or the big zap to convert you ! but this all depend on how your doctor sets up your device and at what your heart rate and rythmia are doing the icd is a little bigger then a small pager ! some are smaller depenidng on your needs and your doctors choice ! when i say big or small zap i'm meanign the about of joules in which the defibrilator uses to shock the heart or pace it your defibrlator will also ahve the ablity to

pace for slow heart rate ! to keep your heartt from goign to slow ! paceign to some dont even feel it and some it's like a flick with the fingure jjust annoying more then anything !!!!!!! hope this helps welcome to the group and feel free to ask more question !!! stacie,23 shcoking life for shockign people ! <pattimint1610@...> wrote: Hi All,I'm joining the list to find out information about the ICD. I'm also doing some research online today too. I was

diagnosed over 20 years ago with a heart arrthymia (VT). At that time i refused the ICD, but recently my doctor is trying to talk me into having the ICD inserted. I've been very successful on my medication for the past 20 years, no episodes of anything....fainting, cardic arrest, etc. Now, since i'm getting older (45), i'm thinking maybe I should at least research the ICD and see if this is something I should have done. I also have high blood pressure, mitral valve prolapse, & a family history of sudden death (my sister died at age 32). I was always afraid of the "zap" from the ICD. 20 years ago they would zap people for no reason and the zap would knock them off their feet. Has this improved? How big is the ICD? Is it uncomfortable? Any advice or information is appreciated. I'm on IM during the day, feel free to post me here, email me, or IM me. Thanks in advance!PattiBaltimore,

MD

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

Welcome to the Zapper Family. I have had my ICD now for close to 5 years and I am 47. I began having Electrical problems from a medication several years before getting it. I had a Sudden Cardiac Death and luckily for me I was already in the hospital at the time or I would not be here now. I developed Long QT after my body dumped all of my Potassium. Not fun!!! With your family history I would say to get it and be better safe than sorry down the road. I have been shocked several times and still don't like it but it can save your live.

Keep talking on here and ask any questions you might have. We have a wealth of info on here with everyone who belongs.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty:

I just had an ICD implanted 3 weeks ago yesterday, and it really was

not a difficult surgery at all. I am 50 and have been on medication for

Cardiomyopathy for the past 8 years. I was doing ok until about 6

months ago I started having palpitations that would last for hours. I

made an appointment with my cardiologist who and a new echo cardiogram

done and changed my meds and at that time recommended that I consider

having an ICD as he considered me at increased risk of going into a

rapid heartbeat and suddenly dropping dead. For me it was a no brainer,

why not accept a devise that could one of these days save my life? I

also had the good fortune of watching one of my co-workers who went

through this about a year ahead of me, so I saw what she went through

and learned from her. To her it was no big deal and so I had no real

fear about the procedure at all. Actually the worst part of it for me

was the fact that no one advised me not to take my water pill the

morning of the procedures and I would have been a lot more comfortable

if I had not taken it!

Mine is implanted in my left upper chest and it is roughly a little

bigger than a 50 cent piece, though it is maybe 1/8[1/4 " thick. The

doctors put you into a twilight sleep similar to what they use on you

for a colonoscopy. I was out, but once they are done you are awake

without all of the side effects of general anesthesia. Yes your implant

site is a bit sore for a few days, but they give you pain meds in the

hospital to keep you comfortable and they hold you overnight to monitor

you and if all is well you go home the next day. My doctor advised me

to stay home for a week, and by 3 days I was bored and ready to go back

to work.

You do have restrictions on your arm movement on the side you have your

implant done on , as they don't want you pulling the lead out of where

it is implanted. I was able to go to a Red Sox Game the week after my

implant was done, and as long as I don't raise my left arm over shoulder

level or left anything over 5 pounds for the 6 week recovery time, I'm

doing fine. After 2 weeks I was allowed to drive again and I feel

fine. To me this is like having a little insurance policy that I carry

with me all of the time. Mine is set to pace me if my heart rate drops

below 40 beats per minute or to shock me if I go over 175 beats per

minute. For the most part I don't even know it is there if I am not

thinking about it.

I will say that you have come to the right place to learn from a great

group. To me it is absolutely marvelous how far technology has come

toward helping people with heart disease. 70 years ago my Great

Grandfather died from heart disease and he probably could have lived

longer if he had the wonderful things available to him that I have today.

Wishing You The Best,

Jody Champlin

[Guest guest]

>

Dear Bill:

I love your humor, please keep it coming!

Jody Champlin

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, You made me laugh out loud reading your e-mail. Thanks for the chuckles! I don't have an ICD (My husband does) but I agree with everything you wrote to . Having the ICD is the most important thing to our family, it will keep my husband from dying should he have another lethal arrythmia. Can't put a price on that. Missy Baltimore, MD

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Hi Missy, I agree...Bill's email made me laugh too and i was far from a laughing mood. Who is your husband's heart doctor in Baltimore? Pattior Miss <chrismisss@...> wrote: Hi Bill, You made me laugh out loud reading your e-mail. Thanks for the chuckles!

I don't have an ICD (My husband does) but I agree with everything you wrote to . Having the ICD is the most important thing to our family, it will keep my husband from dying should he have another lethal arrythmia. Can't put a price on that. Missy Baltimore, MD Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business.

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Hi Patti, My husband started out at University of MD where he was diagnosed with ARVD. We then went to Hopkins for the ARVD workup with Dr. Caulkins and it was determined that he does not have ARVD so we were punted to Dr. Stuart at Hopkins who is his current cardiologist. How about you? Who is your cardiologist? Missy <pattimint1610@...> wrote: Hi Missy, I agree...Bill's email made me laugh too and i was far from a laughing mood. Who is your husband's heart doctor in Baltimore? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi Bill, You made me laugh out loud reading your e-mail. Thanks for the chuckles! I don't have an ICD (My husband does) but I

agree with everything you wrote to . Having the ICD is the most important thing to our family, it will keep my husband from dying should he have another lethal arrythmia. Can't put a price on that. Missy Baltimore, MD Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the

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Hi Missy, I started at Hopkins with Dr. Becker, then switched to Dr. Caulkins, then i got upset with him and went to GBMC to Dr. Guarnieri who i like. Dr. Guarnieri worked at Hopkins first, then he went to GBMC. He worked for Dr. Caulkins. When I would have an appointment with Dr. Caulkins, I usually had to wait two hours just to see him, which i didn't like. I needed female surgery clearance and my GYN and I were both disappointed in him, took him forever to fax her a clearance letter and when she got it, he wrote one sentence. She refused to perform the surgery based on his memo, so she called Dr. Guarnieri who remembered me and took my case. I've been seeing him ever since. What is ARVD? Pattior Miss <chrismisss@...> wrote: Hi Patti, My husband started out at University of MD where he was diagnosed with ARVD. We then went to Hopkins for the ARVD workup with Dr. Caulkins and it was determined that he does not have ARVD so we were punted to Dr. Stuart at Hopkins who is his current cardiologist. How about you? Who is your cardiologist? Missy

<pattimint1610 > wrote: Hi Missy, I agree...Bill's email made me laugh too and i was far from a laughing mood. Who is your husband's heart doctor in Baltimore? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi Bill, You made me laugh out loud reading your e-mail. Thanks for the chuckles! I

don't have an ICD (My husband does) but I agree with everything you wrote to . Having the ICD is the most important thing to our family, it will keep my husband from dying should he have another lethal arrythmia. Can't put a price on that. Missy Baltimore, MD Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business.

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Hi Patti, ARVD is "Arrythmogenic Right Ventricular Dysplasia". It is a type of cardiomyopathy. It is characterized by fibro fatty tissue in the right and sometimes left ventricle. There are a bunch of other symptoms and criteria for being diagnosed, it is one of the causes of sudden cardiac death in young athletes. Anyway my husband does not meet the criteria for ARVD but we still do not have a real diagnosis for his VT's and SVT's. That is how we initially got in with Dr. Caulkins..he is the director of the ARVD program at Hopkins. Missy <pattimint1610@...> wrote: Hi Missy, I started at Hopkins with Dr. Becker, then switched to Dr. Caulkins, then i got upset with him and went to GBMC to Dr. Guarnieri who i like. Dr. Guarnieri worked at Hopkins first, then he went to GBMC. He worked for Dr. Caulkins. When I would have an appointment with Dr. Caulkins, I usually had to wait two hours just to see him, which i didn't like. I needed female surgery clearance and my GYN and I were both disappointed in him, took him forever to fax her a clearance letter and when she got it, he wrote one sentence. She refused

to perform the surgery based on his memo, so she called Dr. Guarnieri who remembered me and took my case. I've been seeing him ever since. What is ARVD? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi Patti, My husband started out at University of MD where he was diagnosed with ARVD. We then went to Hopkins for the ARVD workup with Dr. Caulkins and it was determined that he does not have ARVD so we were punted to Dr. Stuart at Hopkins who is his current cardiologist. How about you? Who is your cardiologist? Missy <pattimint1610 > wrote: Hi Missy, I agree...Bill's email made me laugh too and i was far from a laughing mood. Who is your husband's heart doctor in Baltimore? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi Bill, You made me laugh out loud reading your e-mail. Thanks for the chuckles! I don't have an ICD (My husband does) but I agree with everything you wrote to . Having the ICD is the most important thing to our family, it will keep my husband from dying should he have another lethal arrythmia. Can't put a price on that. Missy Baltimore, MD Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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Same here Missy....no real diagnosis for my VTs either. or Miss <chrismisss@...> wrote: Hi Patti, ARVD is "Arrythmogenic Right Ventricular Dysplasia". It is a type of cardiomyopathy. It is characterized by fibro fatty tissue in the right and sometimes left ventricle. There are a bunch of other symptoms and criteria for being diagnosed, it is one of the causes

of sudden cardiac death in young athletes. Anyway my husband does not meet the criteria for ARVD but we still do not have a real diagnosis for his VT's and SVT's. That is how we initially got in with Dr. Caulkins..he is the director of the ARVD program at Hopkins. Missy <pattimint1610 > wrote: Hi Missy, I started at Hopkins with Dr. Becker, then switched to Dr. Caulkins, then i got upset with him and went to GBMC to Dr. Guarnieri who i like. Dr. Guarnieri worked at Hopkins first, then he went to GBMC. He worked for Dr. Caulkins. When I would have an appointment with Dr. Caulkins, I usually had to wait

two hours just to see him, which i didn't like. I needed female surgery clearance and my GYN and I were both disappointed in him, took him forever to fax her a clearance letter and when she got it, he wrote one sentence. She refused to perform the surgery based on his memo, so she called Dr. Guarnieri who remembered me and took my case. I've been seeing him ever since. What is ARVD? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi Patti, My husband started out at University of MD where he was diagnosed with ARVD. We then went to Hopkins for the ARVD workup with Dr. Caulkins and it was determined that he

does not have ARVD so we were punted to Dr. Stuart at Hopkins who is his current cardiologist. How about you? Who is your cardiologist? Missy <pattimint1610 > wrote: Hi Missy, I agree...Bill's email made me laugh too and i was far from a laughing mood. Who is your husband's heart doctor in Baltimore? Pattior Miss <chrismisss > wrote: Hi

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Hi welcome to the group!! I'm my family and I live in Illinois. Glad to have you here.

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>Hello, I just joined and thought I would introduce myself to you all.

Welcome, B. Thanks for the initial - there are at least 2 other 's

floating around the list.

>A few years ago my weight got up to nearly 250 pounds

250 is my short term goal right now. The last time I saw that for more than

a day or 2 was almost 23 years ago when I delivered my son. I entered the

hospital at 250 and came home with a 7 pound baby plus an additional 10

pounds or so, thanks to the IV fluids and meds I had to have.

>so I decided to join Weight Watchers

There are a number of women here doing WW, and we have a bunch of url's in

our Links page to sites with WW info and recipes with the Points values.

Only a handful of our recipes in the Files section have points, though.

>so I joined TOPS 2 weeks ago.

The TOPS meeting in our city stopped a long time ago, but again, other women

here attend meetings in their areas, one of them is even a leader. They all

have nothing but good things to say about their experiences.

Sue in NJ

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Thanks for the welcome! I just took a peek at your blog. You have some gorgeous kids!

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Hi welcome to the group!! I'm my family and I live in Illinois. Glad to have you here.

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Hi Athena,Welcome!  I kinda like what the Pointer Sisters said: "Live it or live with it."  You get to decide.MIchael SearsNW PDXOn Nov 9, 2006, at 8:39 PM, Athena Zahn wrote:Being in solo practice can be isolating. So, I joined this listserve to devlop an internet community and brainstorm with other DCs in Oregon.I just joined three days ago. I have to say that I am appalled by the back and forth postings with Mr. Brad Welker. I am not just appalled by Brad himself, but everyone else as well. It seems like a "pissing match." There is a place and time for everything, but this listserve does not seem like it is the correct venue. Possibly setting up a round-table/forum in person might be a good idea for those that are interested in actually learing and teaching not dictating or preaching their "right" way. On a side note, I have to say that I am very impressed with how much time has been devoted to this. I have been wanting to respond for a couple of days now, but I am so busy that I do not have enough time in the day to be on the computer that much. Enough said. That is all I want to mention about that matter.Oh, one more thing...let's not forget that it is not just the almighty adjustment that helps people. Don't forget our patients come to us for help and guidance. We are not God. We are merely facilitators of their health. Don't forget that compassion, clinical knowledge, good bed-side manner and the love of chiropractic are on the same playing field as "adjusting," no matter what technique is used.Wait one last thing...sorry! Both my grandparents, great aunts and uncles and my great-grandparents were all chiropractors. They would always tell me that we need to stick together despite our differences because chiropractic is a wonderful way of life. Okay, I am done, really! :-)But I do have one question...Is this the norm on this listserve? Because if it is, I don't need to waste my precious time reading through all the banter postings to find a small gem of good information that might be helpful to me in my practice and to my patients, as well as helping answer questions from others.Please let me know.Sincerely,Athena Zahn, D.C.Portland, Oregon

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Welcome Athena,

Much to do about nothing...Don't read so much into this as it was truly not the norm by any stretch, an aberration to be sure. In fact I believe this was the first rather negative caustic back and forth the list serve has had of such magnitude...someone correct me if you believe me to be wrong.

Vern Saboe

New Member

Being in solo practice can be isolating. So, I joined this listserve to devlop an internet community and brainstorm with other DCs in Oregon.I just joined three days ago. I have to say that I am appalled by the back and forth postings with Mr. Brad Welker. I am not just appalled by Brad himself, but everyone else as well. It seems like a "pissing match." There is a place and time for everything, but this listserve does not seem like it is the correct venue. Possibly setting up a round-table/forum in person might be a good idea for those that are interested in actually learing and teaching not dictating or preaching their "right" way. On a side note, I have to say that I am very impressed with how much time has been devoted to this. I have been wanting to respond for a couple of days now, but I am so busy that I do not have enough time in the day to be on the computer that much. Enough said. That is all I want to mention about that matter.Oh, one more thing...let's not forget that it is not just the almighty adjustment that helps people. Don't forget our patients come to us for help and guidance. We are not God. We are merely facilitators of their health. Don't forget that compassion, clinical knowledge, good bed-side manner and the love of chiropractic are on the same playing field as "adjusting," no matter what technique is used.Wait one last thing...sorry! Both my grandparents, great aunts and uncles and my great-grandparents were all chiropractors. They would always tell me that we need to stick together despite our differences because chiropractic is a wonderful way of life. Okay, I am done, really! :-)But I do have one question...Is this the norm on this listserve? Because if it is, I don't need to waste my precious time reading through all the banter postings to find a small gem of good information that might be helpful to me in my practice and to my patients, as well as helping answer questions from others.Please let me know.Sincerely,Athena Zahn, D.C.Portland, Oregon

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Hi Athena,

The listserve is like Dynamic Chiropractic Ragazine. You should glance through it for items that are important to you but there is a lot of junk.

The best ads are for millions of new patients. If you think about it, if you need millions of new patients, you are not keeping them very long.

re:

“But I do have one question...Is this the norm on this listserve?”

There was a norm on this group but he couldn’t take the raucous discussion so he quit.

( E. Abrahamson, D.C.)

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

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From: Athena Zahn <athenazahn@...>

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:39:40 -0000

< >

Subject: New Member

Being in solo practice can be isolating. So, I joined this listserve

to devlop an internet community and brainstorm with other DCs in

Oregon.

I just joined three days ago.

I have to say that I am appalled by the back and forth postings with

Mr. Brad Welker. I am not just appalled by Brad himself, but everyone

else as well. It seems like a " pissing match. " There is a place and

time for everything, but this listserve does not seem like it is the

correct venue. Possibly setting up a round-table/forum in person might

be a good idea for those that are interested in actually learing and

teaching not dictating or preaching their " right " way. On a side note,

I have to say that I am very impressed with how much time has been

devoted to this. I have been wanting to respond for a couple of days

now, but I am so busy that I do not have enough time in the day to be

on the computer that much.

Enough said. That is all I want to mention about that matter.

Oh, one more thing...let's not forget that it is not just the almighty

adjustment that helps people. Don't forget our patients come to us for

help and guidance. We are not God. We are merely facilitators of their

health. Don't forget that compassion, clinical knowledge, good bed-

side manner and the love of chiropractic are on the same playing field

as " adjusting, " no matter what technique is used.

Wait one last thing...sorry! Both my grandparents, great aunts and

uncles and my great-grandparents were all chiropractors. They would

always tell me that we need to stick together despite our differences

because chiropractic is a wonderful way of life.

Okay, I am done, really! :-)

But I do have one question...

Is this the norm on this listserve?

Because if it is, I don't need to waste my precious time reading

through all the banter postings to find a small gem of good

information that might be helpful to me in my practice and to my

patients, as well as helping answer questions from others.

Please let me know.

Sincerely,

Athena Zahn, D.C.

Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Athena. Yes, it can get verbally roudy here occasionally, not often and the stuff over the last 3 days has been off the norm - unlessyou want to reperuse the flak I got over the milk issue - but that is another topic! ;'-))

so I would recommend you stay tuned ... it's a great way to get to know us with all our geopgaphical distance ... then when we do gather (such as the events that happen at the capital and the events our CAO hosts throughout the year), we aren't so foreign to each other. We are a good group ... and all are dedicated chiropracators .... so hang around and add your 2 cents to our discussions. We'd love to hear your history!

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "Athena Zahn" <athenazahn@...> Subject: New MemberDate: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:39:40 -0000

Being in solo practice can be isolating. So, I joined this listserve to devlop an internet community and brainstorm with other DCs in Oregon.I just joined three days ago. I have to say that I am appalled by the back and forth postings with Mr. Brad Welker. I am not just appalled by Brad himself, but everyone else as well. It seems like a "pissing match." There is a place and time for everything, but this listserve does not seem like it is the correct venue. Possibly setting up a round-table/forum in person might be a good idea for those that are interested in actually learing and teaching not dictating or preaching their "right" way. On a side note, I have to say that I am very impressed with how much time has been devoted to this. I have been wanting to respond for a couple of days now, but I am so busy that I do not have enough time in the day to be on the computer that much. Enough said. That is all I want to mention about that matter.Oh, one more thing...let's not forget that it is not just the almighty adjustment that helps people. Don't forget our patients come to us for help and guidance. We are not God. We are merely facilitators of their health. Don't forget that compassion, clinical knowledge, good bed-side manner and the love of chiropractic are on the same playing field as "adjusting," no matter what technique is used.Wait one last thing...sorry! Both my grandparents, great aunts and uncles and my great-grandparents were all chiropractors. They would always tell me that we need to stick together despite our differences because chiropractic is a wonderful way of life. Okay, I am done, really! :-)But I do have one question...Is this the norm on this listserve? Because if it is, I don't need to waste my precious time reading through all the banter postings to find a small gem of good information that might be helpful to me in my practice and to my patients, as well as helping answer questions from others.Please let me know.Sincerely,Athena Zahn, D.C.Portland, Oregon

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She’s right Athena. The last few days are hardly representative

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Member

Welcome, Athena. Yes, it can get

verbally roudy here occasionally, not often and the stuff over the last 3

days has been off the norm - unlessyou want to reperuse the flak I got over the

milk issue - but that is another topic! ;'-))

so I would recommend you stay tuned ...

it's a great way to get to know us with all our geopgaphical distance ... then

when we do gather (such as the events that happen at the capital and the events

our CAO hosts throughout the year), we aren't so foreign to each other.

We are a good group ... and all are dedicated chiropracators .... so hang

around and add your 2 cents to our discussions. We'd love to hear your

history!

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: " Athena Zahn " <athenazahn@...>

Subject: New Member

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:39:40 -0000

Being in solo practice can be isolating. So, I joined this

listserve

to devlop an internet community and brainstorm with other DCs in

Oregon.

I just joined three days ago.

I have to say that I am appalled by the back and forth postings with

Mr. Brad Welker. I am not just appalled by Brad himself, but everyone

else as well. It seems like a " pissing match. " There is a place and

time for everything, but this listserve does not seem like it is the

correct venue. Possibly setting up a round-table/forum in person might

be a good idea for those that are interested in actually learing and

teaching not dictating or preaching their " right " way. On a side

note,

I have to say that I am very impressed with how much time has been

devoted to this. I have been wanting to respond for a couple of days

now, but I am so busy that I do not have enough time in the day to be

on the computer that much.

Enough said. That is all I want to mention about that matter.

Oh, one more thing...let's not forget that it is not just the almighty

adjustment that helps people. Don't forget our patients come to us for

help and guidance. We are not God. We are merely facilitators of their

health. Don't forget that compassion, clinical knowledge, good bed-

side manner and the love of chiropractic are on the same playing field

as " adjusting, " no matter what technique is used.

Wait one last thing...sorry! Both my grandparents, great aunts and

uncles and my great-grandparents were all chiropractors. They would

always tell me that we need to stick together despite our differences

because chiropractic is a wonderful way of life.

Okay, I am done, really! :-)

But I do have one question...

Is this the norm on this listserve?

Because if it is, I don't need to waste my precious time reading

through all the banter postings to find a small gem of good

information that might be helpful to me in my practice and to my

patients, as well as helping answer questions from others.

Please let me know.

Sincerely,

Athena Zahn, D.C.

Portland, Oregon

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