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Aisha,

I hate the anxiety attacks with a passion and I just wish that it would quit. I

am on medication for it and since I've done a lot better about the anxiety that

I get in some cases. I am also glad to know that I'm not wrong to feel

concerned about what could possibly go wrong. If my grandma were still alive

right now and heard me talk about what my dr said about doing the IV antibiotics

(if we have to go that route) at home she would be most upset and say that I

should do it in the hospital and I couldn't agree more.

I hope that you are doing well today, as for me I've been in physical pain all

afternoon but at least my pain meds are a big help to me.

Kristy :)

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Hi Kristy,

"I am on medication for it and since I've done a lot better about the anxiety that I get in some cases."

What medication did you find helped you sweetie?

"I am also glad to know that I'm not wrong to feel concerned about what could possibly go wrong."

Absolutely not - you are not well. Its essential you know what could happen so you make sure it doesnt. Its part of managing your disease. Its a good point though - I wonder how many of us worry about what could happen and feel silly for it?

"If my grandma were still alive right now and heard me talk about what my dr said about doing the IV antibiotics (if we have to go that route) at home she would be most upset and say that I should do it in the hospital and I couldn't agree more."

I am totally stunned that they would even consider doing antibiotic IV's at home? This is ludicrous. There are too many things that could go wrong and you would not be in a position to call for help. I would demand being in hospital for them. I've had IV antibiotics, and they can really knock you around. Especially genatmicain etc... Please talk to your doctor about a hospital admission, I'd be really concerned about this? (Hell I am really concerned about this for you!)"I hope that you are doing well today, as for me I've been in physical pain all afternoon but at least my pain meds are a big help to me."

I'm tired, but thats normal!! I am sure I'll be fine! How are you doing today?

*gentle hugs to you*

Aisha

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Hi Aisha,

The medicine that seems to be helping my anxiety a lot is the Buspar. Right now

my dr has lowered my dosage to 30 mg from the 60 that I had been on before she

told me to take the Xanax for a spell (Xanax was needed at the time that my

grandma died).

Now that I'm doing a tad better with the grieving for my grandma I'm making sure

that I don't have a need for the Xanax. Plus, the reason that she's starting me

on the 30 mg of Buspar again is b/c basically had not been taking it twice a day

for a while b/c there was still a potential need for the Xanax.

My next visit to the dr is on the 17th so I will let you know how it goes for

me.

Take care,

Kristy :)

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For panic disorders, homeopathy has had great success. The lead remedies are

Argentum Nitricum, Kali Arsenicum, Aconite... If you cant figure out what

your constitutional is then try Aconite 30c taken as the panic is first

sensed.

Another thing I recommend one look into is called Emotional Freedom Technique

(EFT) at emofree.com . EFT is an offshoot of Thought Field Therapy (TFT) but

EFT is much easier to apply. EFT is very powerful too for all kinds of

mental, emotional and physical disorders.

Mike

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In a message dated 1/20/01 2:05:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bbtristate@... writes:

<< For panic disorders, homeopathy has had great success.

Another thing I recommend one look into is called Emotional Freedom

Technique

(EFT) at emofree.com .

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. >>

Go Richie!

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Mark,

My first question would be "what is a panic attack?" Since this is such a subjective, behavioral "diagnosis", it's usually worth finding out exactly what it means to your client. For a number with whom I've worked, it's really more of an anxiety reaction. If it happens just in relation to a specific stressor (e.g. getting on an airplane), then it could be just a phobic reaction. Using progressive de-sensitization with the GSR training on your WaveRider or with a good Pz alpha state while thinking about, talking about, seeing pictures of and then role-playing an airline trip will often do the job.

Panic attacks don't usually occur when there is something to be afraid of. They are most common at times when there is no real stressor identifiable.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: Mark Waller [mailto:mrwaller@...]Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: panic attacks

Pete and all:

I have a new client who has recently started getting panic attacks when on airplanes. I assume many people may be having this kind of issue since 9/11.

Aside from the normal assessment, is there anything you would do to start? There is no history of anxiety or panic until lately. This is a woman in her mid twenties.

One question that arises in my mind, is this likely to be a right side cortex response to a stressor or something to do with the Limbic System?

Mark

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I'm going to Mexico on Friday. My business is coming along great, the store

is up, just adding products. Should be done in 2 weeks when I get back from

cruise. Thanks but, I still have to make sure he's serious! =)

How's Brett? he's such a cutie!

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What cruise are you going on Jess? How is your business coming along? Do you

have a website yet? I am looking forward to checking out your stuff.

Congrats on finding a special someone too!

Kristal

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Before I started taking meds, my panic attacks were really bad. I'd get

heart palpations and everything. I'd constantly worry that my husband

or kids would die any time in some horrible or tragic way. I'd insist

on going everywhere with my husband because I knew the first time I

didn't he'd get in a horrible wreck. I even spent time worrying my

loved ones would self-combust after I saw a weird episode about it on

That's Incredible or something.

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a Bishop wrote:

> You get that too? I do too! Not about my hubby and kids (duh!) but

> about my parents and loved ones. Hmm...I think it has something to do

> with the fact we depend on those people so much that it is a

> deep-rooted fear that something bad will happen to them (and in turn,

> us).

Totally. I'm always afraid my caretakers will suddenly drop dead - in

my case my husband - and I'll be trapped in bed until I starve to

death. Sometimes when I'm especially freaked out, I insist on sleeping

with my cell phone. Morbid, huh?

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Joy wrote:

> oh weird. I still worry sometimes that if I don't go

> with hubby something bad might happen. I thought I was

> really crazy....maybe not so much? or maybe we both

> are??? hehe

Well, I take meds for things like that now, so I guess at least *I'm*

crazy. :)

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a Bishop wrote:

> Nah, I make my parents call me when they get home from leaving my

> place. I always say " OK, you've got 5 minutes...get home and call me

> or I'm sending out the troops " !!

I didn't tell Lee this, but this was one of the main reasons I wanted us

both to get cell phones. It's so nice, when he's going to be late or

has car trouble or is stuck in line somewhere, that he can call and let

me know. I actually get much less anxious just knowing this form of

communication is available. I also considered getting one of those

" I've fallen and I can't get up " systems years ago.

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Joy wrote:

> I never thought of it as a panic attack type thing. I

> don't feel depressed really...I mean I think I have my

> ups and downs like a lot of people but didn't think it

> anything serious. It just surprised me to read other

> ppl have that feeling about something bad happening if

> we're not there. What can we do if we are there anyway

> hehe, or hmmm atleast we can die together if something

> does happen huh?? :)

>

> Ok now I am getting morbid??

I guess, cuz you're starting to sound like me. :)

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That why we got cell phone too!

L

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a Bishop wrote:

> Nah, I make my parents call me when they get home from leaving my

> place. I always say " OK, you've got 5 minutes...get home and call me

> or I'm sending out the troops " !!

I didn't tell Lee this, but this was one of the main reasons I wanted us

both to get cell phones. It's so nice, when he's going to be late or

has car trouble or is stuck in line somewhere, that he can call and let

me know. I actually get much less anxious just knowing this form of

communication is available. I also considered getting one of those

" I've fallen and I can't get up " systems years ago.

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Jenn wrote:

Totally. I'm always afraid my caretakers will suddenly drop dead - in

my case my husband - and I'll be trapped in bed until I starve to

death. Sometimes when I'm especially freaked out, I insist on sleeping

with my cell phone. Morbid, huh?

I think it's normal to have worries like that. Many of us depend on our

caregiver for our most basic needs. I try to limit these worriers to only

once and a while...it makes me less crazy when I don't think about it. :)

Lori

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a Bishop wrote:

> You get that too? I do too! Not about my hubby and kids (duh!) but

> about my parents and loved ones. Hmm...I think it has something to do

> with the fact we depend on those people so much that it is a

> deep-rooted fear that something bad will happen to them (and in turn,

> us).

Totally. I'm always afraid my caretakers will suddenly drop dead - in

my case my husband - and I'll be trapped in bed until I starve to

death. Sometimes when I'm especially freaked out, I insist on sleeping

with my cell phone. Morbid, huh?

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" I think it has something to do with the fact we depend on those

people so much that it is a deep-rooted fear that something bad will

happen to them (and in turn, us). "

Hi All,

I have always, ever since I was a child, had a great fear of

something happening to my loved ones, particularly those who have

cared for me, but my fear turns into a panic when I'm in bed because

this is when I start thinking " what if there is a fire? or nobody

comes over and finds me? " These feelings were always discarded by

my parents. They would always say " nothing will happen, we are just

outside " or something to that effect but nevertheless I would always

freak out if alone in bed.

Unfortunately things only became worst when my mom passed away

because my fears became a reality. I was 16yrs old and alone with

her. I had called her at about 3 a.m. to turn me in bed during the

night when all of a sudden I heard a stumble and it wasn't until the

middle of the next day that my brother happened to visit and found

me still sceaming my lungs out. I am sorry if my story only

reinforces your panics but this comes to show that we are not

really " crazy " we are simply aware of our great dependency on others

and like a mentioned, have deep-rooted fears of something

happening to those who care for us because we know this could mean

something could happen to us.

Now, I usually try to ignore these feelings and have also found it

helpful to sleep with the phone in hand when alone in my room, for

example if alex goes out, is working or even if he is somewhere else

in the house. I always try to have a means of contacting help if it

should be necessary.

A side note:

Like soooo many other time on sooooo many other topics, before

reading about your experiencences with the anxiety attacks regarding

the wellbeing of loved ones I actually thought I was a bit paranoid

and even over protective. I now feel a bit more normal ;)

-na

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Have fun in Mexico- make sure to take pictures! Just let me know when your

website is up and running for us to check out. Brett is doing great- getting

bigger and stronger ever since he got his g-tube.

Question for everyone...I have been on the chat awhile and mainly just read

e-mails..I am not sure if I have ever introduced myself but where can I look

at the pictures that everyone posts? Thanks

Kristal

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Here's the 2 cents from a parent. I wake up in the night and wonder how

Bernie would manage if anything ever happened to me and my husband - and

how will he manage when we get old? (I was 40 when he was born.) Bernie

likes to be reassured of exactly where I'm going to be while he's

sleeping - to know that I will hear him. So I think your panic attacks

are really quite rational. And I think sleeping with a phone or alarm

button is a simply sensible thing to do.

Bettylou

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I have to say that it is I not Ian that worries it's normally me, I always make

sure Ian has his enviroment control of a night or if I go out so he can call for

help should he need to.

Sonya

Bettylou Ross <eross@...> wrote:

Here's the 2 cents from a parent. I wake up in the night and wonder how

Bernie would manage if anything ever happened to me and my husband - and

how will he manage when we get old? (I was 40 when he was born.) Bernie

likes to be reassured of exactly where I'm going to be while he's

sleeping - to know that I will hear him. So I think your panic attacks

are really quite rational. And I think sleeping with a phone or alarm

button is a simply sensible thing to do.

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Maralee and Carolyn,

I also have had some experiences with panic attacks and they are very

real and very frightening!!! Though I know different things trigger

them in different people, for me, being in new places where I do not

feel in control or like I know or can handle the different things

that might happen are the biggest triggers. This can happen (for me)

with or without others around and isn't necessarily a claustrophobic

type reaction… For me, it is a rising anxiety about what might

happen, what others might be thinking/doing, what I may need to

respond to, what I don't know about what is going on around me, over-

stimulation, lack of control in a situation, not being able to follow

a normal routine, etc… The anxiety builds until I can't breath, my

chest hurts, my heart pounds, I break out into a cold sweat, and I

feel like I am going to fly apart into a million pieces. I would not

handle being in a confined area where others kept total control over

me… It would be detrimental to my mental health rather than

productive… If Beth was feeling this way, I could see why she was

desperate to get out. You feel like you are going to die if something

doesn't change and like you can't stop it… I really mean it when I

say it is one of the scariest things I have ever gone through…

The worst attack I had was after having major surgical complications

that kept me hospitalized for almost 2 months. After being released,

I was still very weak and unable to do much on my own. I had made it

to the bathroom and had sat for an overly long time in there, which

caused my legs/hips to go to sleep. On my way back to the bed (near

the bathroom) I almost fell and started to hyperventilate. I was so

scared of being readmitted and the numbness continued to spread. In

bed, it got so bad that I couldn't feel most of my torso. My arms

didn't work right, my heart was pounding, I was sweating profusely,

and I couldn't do anything to stop the chain reaction. Crying didn't

help because I was already having trouble breathing. The doctor (what

a wonderful man) came to my hotel room (near the hospital) and did a

house call. He couldn't do anything for me other than possibly

medicate me or readmit me. He chose medication, which finally relaxed

me enough to allow my heart to return to normal and the blood to

start flowing into my extremities again. I literally thought I was

going to die in that room. I felt my body was quickly deteriorating

due to my lack of control or feeling, and the more I was in " panic

mode " the worse the symptoms got… Looking back, I think the anxiety

was worse than the complications. Even though the complications

nearly took my life, they were easier to deal with!!!

Anyway, I just wanted to share my experiences!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

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Wow Rabecca,

I almost had a panic attack reading about your panic attack!

I have had them a few times too, thinking the worst was going to happen to me, something really awful was going to happen to me, and I couldn't breath, and my heart started pounding so hard I could feel my chest vibrating, and went to ER. Well each time they did an EKG on me, and told me my heart was palpitating. And that just made me worse thinking I was going to have a heart attack and die!

It is crazy when you can't control your own body's reactions that way. It comes on me when I haven't been feeling good for a long time, and have been having a real stressful situation I am dealing with in my life, and then a sudden shock sends me into it, and once I am in that panic mode it can retrigger itself real easily over a period of weeks or even months.

So what I learned to do over time is to not let my mind go there, there seems to be a point of no return in my thinking, and if I avoid going over it I do quite well. Otherwise, if I think wrongly and allow fear into me then the panic takes me and once it takes me there is no turning back.

So to me the battle is in the mind, but then the body takes over. I have learned to keep my stress level down as much as I can now to keep the adrenaline in my blood down. Exercise helps and eating right and not much caffeine or sugar, and thinking on those things that give me peace.

Lord give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I am not God, I do NOT rule the world.

Now I need a rest, been watching the Olympics women's marathon. Whew! And it was really hot out!

Love to you all,

Carolyn

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Maralee and Carolyn,I also have had some experiences with panic attacks and they are very real and very frightening!!! Though I know different things trigger them in different people, for me, being in new places where I do not feel in control or like I know or can handle the different things that might happen are the biggest triggers. This can happen (for me) with or without others around and isn't necessarily a claustrophobic type reaction… For me, it is a rising anxiety about what might happen, what others might be thinking/doing, what I may need to respond to, what I don't know about what is going on around me, over-stimulation, lack of control in a situation, not being able to follow a normal routine, etc… The anxiety builds until I can't breath, my chest hurts, my heart pounds, I break out into a cold sweat, and I feel like I am going to fly apart into a million pieces. I would not handle being in a confined area where others kept total control over me… It would be detrimental to my mental health rather than productive… If Beth was feeling this way, I could see why she was desperate to get out. You feel like you are going to die if something doesn't change and like you can't stop it… I really mean it when I say it is one of the scariest things I have ever gone through… The worst attack I had was after having major surgical complications that kept me hospitalized for almost 2 months. After being released, I was still very weak and unable to do much on my own. I had made it to the bathroom and had sat for an overly long time in there, which caused my legs/hips to go to sleep. On my way back to the bed (near the bathroom) I almost fell and started to hyperventilate. I was so scared of being readmitted and the numbness continued to spread. In bed, it got so bad that I couldn't feel most of my torso. My arms didn't work right, my heart was pounding, I was sweating profusely, and I couldn't do anything to stop the chain reaction. Crying didn't help because I was already having trouble breathing. The doctor (what a wonderful man) came to my hotel room (near the hospital) and did a house call. He couldn't do anything for me other than possibly medicate me or readmit me. He chose medication, which finally relaxed me enough to allow my heart to return to normal and the blood to start flowing into my extremities again. I literally thought I was going to die in that room. I felt my body was quickly deteriorating due to my lack of control or feeling, and the more I was in "panic mode" the worse the symptoms got… Looking back, I think the anxiety was worse than the complications. Even though the complications nearly took my life, they were easier to deal with!!!Anyway, I just wanted to share my experiences!!!~hugs~Rabecca

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Hello,

Yes, you are not alone in regards to the panic attacks and KT....I too

have the misfortune of suuffering from occassional panic attacks.....I

wish that I could remember which KT culture it was that caused me to

have a real bad increase of panic attack symptoms but it can definitely

happen....It was only with one particular culture though...as a matter

of fact it was one that I had shipped in from Scotland....It brewed up

like normal, of course, but for some reason, whenever I drank a bit of

it, my nerves would get on edge really bad...I had been using KT by that

time for about three and half years, so it came as a surprise to me...no

other culture did that to me....by that time I had tried and used maybe

eight or nine different ones......

If you care to try another culture...don't get rid of the one you

have...you can set it aside and feed it periodically to keep it going

while you try another one......

Take care,

Hank Mosher

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Some things I do when I am having a panic attack:Focus on my breathing.Focus on different things in the room, first notice 5 visual things that I see, there's a lamp, there's a fan, etc. Then 5 things I hear, five things I feel (touching, not emotional), like the clothing against my body, the floor against my body, the hair on my head, my glasses on my face, my fingers on the keyboard. Then I try to smell or taste things.Sometimes I stop and try to describe to myself exactly what is happening in the panic attack, as if I am an outside observer experiencing what my body is experiencing. Like I feel my heart pounding, it is beating very fast, it feels like the earth is going to swallow me up, like I might slip through the floor. There is the floor, there are no holes in it to slip through. I am sweating, look at the sweat. I am having a hard time breathing, try to take a deep breath. Try to slow my heartbeat down, slow down heart, all is okay. I am here in this room, all is safe.Just some ideas I use, not sure if they would be helpful to anyone else.-- the Dreamer

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thank you for the suggestions I will try some of them and hope they help

espaly the breathing one I find it very scary and hard to breath when I am

having one thank you once again for all the advice

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> I see, there's a lamp, there's a fan, etc. Then 5 things I hear, five

> things I feel (touching, not emotional), like the clothing against my

> body, the floor against my body, the hair on my head, my glasses on my

> face, my fingers on the keyboard. Then I try to smell or taste things.

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> in the panic attack, as if I am an outside observer experiencing what my

> body is experiencing. Like I feel my heart pounding, it is beating very

> fast, it feels like the earth is going to swallow me up, like I might

> slip through the floor. There is the floor, there are no holes in it to

> slip through. I am sweating, look at the sweat. I am having a hard

> time breathing, try to take a deep breath. Try to slow my heartbeat

> down, slow down heart, all is okay. I am here in this room, all is safe.

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> Just some ideas I use, not sure if they would be helpful to anyone else.

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