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N.S.,

I will leave the schizophrenia question to those with experience.

However, in all cases, we would not decide on training plans until we

had done an assessment. The training plan is based on brain pattrns +

what th trainee wants to change.

Check out the assessment section of the website, www.brain-trainer.com.

There is a link there to where you can download the assessment files.

Foxx

Panic Attacks

My name is N. S. Srinivasan and am from Chennai, India. I am new to

Neurofeedback and learning about TLC. I have recently acquired Pete's

signal designs for BE.

Dear Pete, there are a couple of questions -

1. What would you advice me to do for a client with panic attacks and

very poor comprehension skills?

2. Is it possible for neurofeedback to help people with Schizophrenia?

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Are you aspirating at night?

>

> I've started having panic attacks, mostly at night. I've had achalasia for

about six years

and

> wonder if there is a connection. Anyone else had this?

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jeffsc51 wrote:

I've started having panic attacks, mostly at night. I've had achalasia for about six years and wonder if there is a connection. Anyone else had this?

This is an interesting topic. I don't remember if it has come up in

this group before. We did once discuss the topic of sleep paralysis,

(something different). Panic attacks can mimic achalasia, chest pain,

choking and nocturnal choking. Most attacks are in the day time, but

some people suffer "Nocturnal Panic Attacks", which can be

different from other panic attacks. There is some thought that

breathing problems while sleeping, like sleep apnea, can lead to Nocturnal

Panic Attacks. People may be having these and not know they

have a name. If you describe your's other may relate to that. Achalasia

seems to have some link to depression and stress, so it would not be

surprising that panic attacks also have some connection. Sometime after

I started aspirating at night I had some very creepy events. Hard to

describe and not classic for a nocturnal panic attacks, but it was also

a very bad time in my life and it makes sense that they were.

notan

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One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxietycomes when I get this weird feeling like mymind is leaving me. Is not really what I would callbrain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonderif this might be related to die off. Anyone elseExperience this?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Rush <rushtessman@...> wrote:

I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

Rush

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A friend of mine that was infected had what you describe, more so during the die

off. M

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in the

last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the last

few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot up

front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some others

that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their

activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that

going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and

starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of

them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout

in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be

kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

> you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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panic was my specialty in my late 20's and still to this day...I often had that

feeling You mention of my mind leaving me...Today i take clonazepam as needed

....this disease is diff....I think sometimes We are doin so many things to get

better it makes us hypervigilant....personally i don't think it hurts to have a

rx around for superstress...blood sugar is tied in with anxiety...for me there

is so much I can't eat it can be hard to find something to eat..nuts are prob

good to have like almonds for a snack...

--- torpedolynn@... wrote:

From: " torpedolynn " <torpedolynn@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:37:35 -0000

Hi

newbie here had that experience just one evening two days ago. It kind of scared

me, but I had chalked it up to toxic overload. I had used Windex heavily that

morning and boric soap that after noon. Powdered the carpets and wet sprayed

them and myself. Then I had on quite a heavy dose of Burts Bees. All evening it

felt like my mind was leaving me and it was nothing like brain fog. I hear ya.

Could be die of or just toxic overload from to many chemicals.

In Light Lynn

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in the

last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the last

few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot up

front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some others

that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their

activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that

going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and

starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of

them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout

in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be

kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

> you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

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Many of us have and have these attacks from mixing to many chemicals, organic or

not, so we are breathing toxic air all the time. I know my house makes me feel

ill from all I have done in here. I open the windows and air out whenever I can.

Windex is one of the worst, but really helps , so be careful. I always sprayed

it with a mask on and left until it dried, then aired out. When you feel like

that, go for a good walk in the fresh air or just sit outside for a while. The

spaciness should go away. B

> >

> > I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in the

last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the last

few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot up

front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some others

that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their

activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that

going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and

starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of

them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout

in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be

kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

> > you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> > Rush

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

>

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Windex toxic? Yes!

http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/household/indoor_air_poll.htm

GLASS CLEANERS

* Blue Glass Cleaner (NYCO PRODUCTS)

* Professional Windex Concentrate Glass Cleaner (S.C. Wax)

* Institutional Windex Powerized Formulation Glass Cleaner (Drackett

Products Company)

Toxic Ingredient: Butyl Cellosolve

Safe Alternative: 409 Glass and Surface Cleaner

> > >

> > > I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in

the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the

last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot

up front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some

others that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their

activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that

going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and

starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of

them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout

in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be

kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

> > > you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> > > Rush

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > >

> >

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Butyl Cellosolve is a chemical that is found in a wide variety of household

cleaning agents - glass cleaners, oven cleaners, general degreasers, spot

removers, air fresheners, and carpet cleaners, among other things. It is a

colorless liquid with a sweet, ether-like odour and is manufactured by the

Eastman Kodak company. But why should you look out for it?

It is also known as butyl glycol, Dowanol, Bane-Clene and ethylene glycol

monobutyl ether (EGBE), which has made it on to the list of California's toxic

air substances, and some animal studies indicate that it produces reproductive

problems, such as testicular damage, reduced fertility, death of embryos and

birth defects. In humans, it can irritate mucous membranes and cause liver and

kidney damage. Butyl cellosolve is also a neurotoxin that can depress the

nervous system and cause a variety of associated problems. Sounds like something

we should be using around our house, no?

So let this serve as yet another example of a dangerous toxic chemical that is

prevalent on our grocery store shelves. Before you buy a cleaning product, be

sure to read the label and look for this ingredient under one of its

" pseudonyms " above. Ideally, you want to avoid toxic cleaners at all, but if you

cannot, be cautious when using anything with this ingredient in it!

> > > >

> > > > I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times in

the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic attacks the

last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six times. I have a parking spot

up front with my name on it. Lol. I was prescribed klonopin along with some

others that I didn't fill. Also lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their

activity. My attacks have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that

going to fire station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu water and

starting to feel really good again. Also taking several baths per day and two of

them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins washing sheets everyday using nokout

in environment. Maybe having a glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be

kind to yourself. Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful

and you truly feel like

> > > > you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> > > > Rush

> > > >

> > > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Anybody tried Bach Rescue Remedy drops for this? Works like a charm

for me for panic, anxiety, stress, extended crying, shock, anger,

frustration - all the " overload " responses. It's a homeopathic

formula in drops (my favorite) or spray for sublingual (under the

tongue) dosing or can be added to a little water & swallowed.

The drops dose is 4 under the tongue, but I've taken a dropperful at

a time when needed with no problem. Used it for 20 years for myself &

family, birds & animals with great results.

My vet uses it for herself & her patients & I always carry a bottle

in my purse " just in case " . Great for the little aggravations (like

running late or a cranky boss) as well as the big ones. Used it so

long I know my reactions & the dosage that will work within a few

minutes. Can be taken by adults as often as every 20 minutes if

needed till the full effect kicks in.

The manufacturer's taken to calling it " yoga in a bottle " & I can

attest to its rapid calming & centering effects. I buy it at the

health food stores or Whole Foods' supplement section. Comes in a

formula for pets & children without the alcohol in the original.

If you're sensitive to alcohol, you can add it to a little warm water

& wait a few minutes for the alcohol to evaporate before drinking. I

am sensitive to most alcohol (except vodka filtered through that

mountain of charcoal), but I have no trouble with it.

Here's a good explanation:

http://www.preciouspets.org/newsletters/articles/bach.htm

Higher dosages - as the books I have discuss:

http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

More technical: http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

The website doesn't tell you much besides where to buy it but

googling will turn up lots. http://www.rescueremedy.com/

Amazon has reviews http://tinyurl.com/nexjgv

This site seems the cheapest by far http://tinyurl.com/kj7lzz

Might want to give it a shot!

Regarding that " wierd feeling like my mind is leaving me " , Rush - I've

known that reaction for years as an allergic & chemically sensitive

individual. Driving down the road in Spring, I could see a cloud of

pollen approaching that I couldn't avoid, turn off the ventilation &

still be thrown into another dimension immediately as the pollen\

passed. Other odd situations as well. Can't stay in a fabric store

more than 20 minutes or the formaldehyde fumes from the cloth finish

gives a similar but less intense effect. For me it's an allergic or

toxin reaction - or both. The Rescue Remedy drops help in both types

but don't stop the effect, just my emotional response. Why I avoid

the chemicals so carefully. Can't go into a carpet store at all for

the finish on the carpets, also formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is even in

toothpaste! I use Boiron's Sabadil tablets (like m & m's, melt-in-your-

mouth) for the allergy part & get myself to fresh air if I run into

volatile toxins. That totally spaced feeling is a bummer I try hard

to avoid!

Best wishes, Sue

One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

Sent from my iPhone

I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

Rush

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Thanks. I will try it!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 5, 2009, at 12:46 PM, "vaseagull" <sue@...> wrote:

Anybody tried Bach Rescue Remedy drops for this? Works like a charm

for me for panic, anxiety, stress, extended crying, shock, anger,

frustration - all the "overload" responses. It's a homeopathic

formula in drops (my favorite) or spray for sublingual (under the

tongue) dosing or can be added to a little water & swallowed.

The drops dose is 4 under the tongue, but I've taken a dropperful at

a time when needed with no problem. Used it for 20 years for myself &

family, birds & animals with great results.

My vet uses it for herself & her patients & I always carry a bottle

in my purse "just in case". Great for the little aggravations (like

running late or a cranky boss) as well as the big ones. Used it so

long I know my reactions & the dosage that will work within a few

minutes. Can be taken by adults as often as every 20 minutes if

needed till the full effect kicks in.

The manufacturer's taken to calling it "yoga in a bottle" & I can

attest to its rapid calming & centering effects. I buy it at the

health food stores or Whole Foods' supplement section. Comes in a

formula for pets & children without the alcohol in the original.

If you're sensitive to alcohol, you can add it to a little warm water

& wait a few minutes for the alcohol to evaporate before drinking. I

am sensitive to most alcohol (except vodka filtered through that

mountain of charcoal), but I have no trouble with it.

Here's a good explanation: http://www.preciouspets.org/newsletters/articles/bach.htm

Higher dosages - as the books I have discuss:

http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

More technical: http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

The website doesn't tell you much besides where to buy it but

googling will turn up lots. http://www.rescueremedy.com/

Amazon has reviews http://tinyurl.com/nexjgv

This site seems the cheapest by far http://tinyurl.com/kj7lzz

Might want to give it a shot!

Regarding that "wierd feeling like my mind is leaving me", Rush - I've

known that reaction for years as an allergic & chemically sensitive

individual. Driving down the road in Spring, I could see a cloud of

pollen approaching that I couldn't avoid, turn off the ventilation &

still be thrown into another dimension immediately as the pollen\

passed. Other odd situations as well. Can't stay in a fabric store

more than 20 minutes or the formaldehyde fumes from the cloth finish

gives a similar but less intense effect. For me it's an allergic or

toxin reaction - or both. The Rescue Remedy drops help in both types

but don't stop the effect, just my emotional response. Why I avoid

the chemicals so carefully. Can't go into a carpet store at all for

the finish on the carpets, also formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is even in

toothpaste! I use Boiron's Sabadil tablets (like m & m's, melt-in-your-

mouth) for the allergy part & get myself to fresh air if I run into

volatile toxins. That totally spaced feeling is a bummer I try hard

to avoid!

Best wishes, Sue

One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

Sent from my iPhone

I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

Rush

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I remember as a little girl going to the dollar general storewith my mom and I absolutely hated that store, it'swhen they were new and the chemical fumesmade me feel terrible. I think my mom just thought I was faking. Lol. Is this sue g?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 5, 2009, at 12:46 PM, "vaseagull" <sue@...> wrote:

Anybody tried Bach Rescue Remedy drops for this? Works like a charm

for me for panic, anxiety, stress, extended crying, shock, anger,

frustration - all the "overload" responses. It's a homeopathic

formula in drops (my favorite) or spray for sublingual (under the

tongue) dosing or can be added to a little water & swallowed.

The drops dose is 4 under the tongue, but I've taken a dropperful at

a time when needed with no problem. Used it for 20 years for myself &

family, birds & animals with great results.

My vet uses it for herself & her patients & I always carry a bottle

in my purse "just in case". Great for the little aggravations (like

running late or a cranky boss) as well as the big ones. Used it so

long I know my reactions & the dosage that will work within a few

minutes. Can be taken by adults as often as every 20 minutes if

needed till the full effect kicks in.

The manufacturer's taken to calling it "yoga in a bottle" & I can

attest to its rapid calming & centering effects. I buy it at the

health food stores or Whole Foods' supplement section. Comes in a

formula for pets & children without the alcohol in the original.

If you're sensitive to alcohol, you can add it to a little warm water

& wait a few minutes for the alcohol to evaporate before drinking. I

am sensitive to most alcohol (except vodka filtered through that

mountain of charcoal), but I have no trouble with it.

Here's a good explanation: http://www.preciouspets.org/newsletters/articles/bach.htm

Higher dosages - as the books I have discuss:

http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

More technical: http://healing.about.com/cs/floweressences1/a/rescueremedy.htm

The website doesn't tell you much besides where to buy it but

googling will turn up lots. http://www.rescueremedy.com/

Amazon has reviews http://tinyurl.com/nexjgv

This site seems the cheapest by far http://tinyurl.com/kj7lzz

Might want to give it a shot!

Regarding that "wierd feeling like my mind is leaving me", Rush - I've

known that reaction for years as an allergic & chemically sensitive

individual. Driving down the road in Spring, I could see a cloud of

pollen approaching that I couldn't avoid, turn off the ventilation &

still be thrown into another dimension immediately as the pollen\

passed. Other odd situations as well. Can't stay in a fabric store

more than 20 minutes or the formaldehyde fumes from the cloth finish

gives a similar but less intense effect. For me it's an allergic or

toxin reaction - or both. The Rescue Remedy drops help in both types

but don't stop the effect, just my emotional response. Why I avoid

the chemicals so carefully. Can't go into a carpet store at all for

the finish on the carpets, also formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is even in

toothpaste! I use Boiron's Sabadil tablets (like m & m's, melt-in-your-

mouth) for the allergy part & get myself to fresh air if I run into

volatile toxins. That totally spaced feeling is a bummer I try hard

to avoid!

Best wishes, Sue

One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

Sent from my iPhone

I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

Rush

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Sounds like you're chemically sensitive as well. And some are more

aware of outgassing toxins by smell, taste, reaction. My biology

teacher in high school didn't believe my response to formaldehyde,

either. The " specimens " for dissecting stayed in a barrel of the

stuff & I had to to stand at the end of the table & crack a window

to keep from passing out. My lab partner did the hand work & I did

the cataloging. Aced the tests but got a D for my suffering. Teacher

told me I was just being " girlie " . Had he switched places with me he

would have known otherwise. That class was right before lunch which I

couldn't eat that whole semester.

Taught me that nobody knows what you experience that's uncommon but

someone else who's lived the same. That some " normals " will believe

you & others dismiss you out of hand. My folks thought I was faking

it, too. Until a doctor turned up allergy & massive chemical

sensitivies in me a few years later...

I'm vaseagull for central Virginia where I live & a favorite bird, or

as Bobby would say, Sauna Sue and OrangePlus Sue. Always saw my

reaction to the mitemare as a toxic situation requiring detoxing &

not retoxing. No alternative in my case but to pursue nontoxic

environmental, internal & external solutions.

I've been fortunate to find them & rebuild my health. My environment

was under control as soon as I hit on what worked here & my body

shortly after. Came down with this last July & found my way out of

the woods by mid October, with no bites, crawls, whispies since then.

The actual healing has taken longer, but I babied myself and never

experienced any strong (uncomfortable) herx.

I'm the only one I know of who bypassed the typical medications (iver

& antibiotics & such) and pesticides & went straight to the detox,

herbal & homeopathic remedies. Others have employed similar strategies

after the typical ones & found their way clear.

Best wishes, Sue

One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

Sent from my iPhone

I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

Rush

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And just one of the sweetest people sauna/orange plus Sue. I have the super

strong orange plus along with TKO orange cleaner in the cupboard now...lol. I've

used the Bach's for years too when I am feeling stressed or have a tummy ache.

They have a whole line of products that are very helpful. Bobby

>

> One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

> get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

> I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

> might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

> in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

> attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

> times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

> prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

> lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

> have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

> station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

> thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

> water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

> baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

> washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

> glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

> Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

> truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

>

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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Thanks for the personal account Sue.

I agree- detoxing one's system (on many levels) is vital, in regard to curing

this problem.

Takes great bravery, and fortitude, to stick with it as well.

Congradulations!

-D.

>

> One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

> get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

> I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

> might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

> in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

> attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

> times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

> prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

> lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

> have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

> station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

> thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

> water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

> baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

> washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

> glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

> Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

> truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

>

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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Panic attack? Nothing a few shots of whiskey won't address. Get yourself a small

flask to carry indiscreetly. If we didn't live in such a puritanical,

politically correct dictatorship this ageless tradition would go without saying.

>

> One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

> get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

> I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

> might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

> in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

> attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

> times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

> prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

> lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

> have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

> station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

> thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

> water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

> baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

> washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

> glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

> Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

> truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

>

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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I prefer vodka! On my last panic visit to this time I went to the firestation. There was a bar nearby and I debated because I didn't want to be acting all weird in the bar, but I asked the medics a out it and they said a drink would escalate the attack. I do think it works to keep them from coming on at leastSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 5, 2009, at 11:37 PM, buggeredbymites <no_reply > wrote:

Panic attack? Nothing a few shots of whiskey won't address. Get yourself a small flask to carry indiscreetly. If we didn't live in such a puritanical, politically correct dictatorship this ageless tradition would go without saying.

>

> One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

> get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

> I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

> might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

> I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

> in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

> attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

> times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

> prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

> lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

> have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

> station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

> thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

> water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

> baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

> washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

> glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

> Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

> truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

>

> Rush

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

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I'll drink to that Rush! I like a shot of Stolis chased with a decent German

beer, like Becks. There's no way in hell I'll ever start dropping happy pills.

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> > One thing I forgot to mention/ask. Alot of my anxiety comes when I

> > get this weird feeling like my mind is leaving me. Is not really what

> > I would call brain fog but much more severe feeling. I wonder if this

> > might be related to die off. Anyone else Experience this?

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

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> >

> > I have seen the words panic attacks, anxiety, stress... So many times

> > in the last few days. I have to admit I have been the queen of panic

> > attacks the last few weeks! I have literally gone to the Er six

> > times. I have a parking spot up front with my name on it. Lol. I was

> > prescribed klonopin along with some others that I didn't fill. Also

> > lexapro. I can vouch that stress increases their activity. My attacks

> > have lessened but did have one this week. Learned that going to fire

> > station is free vs $150.00 to er, and pretty much they do the same

> > thing--check blood pressure EKG etc, and so much kinder. I am on anu

> > water and starting to feel really good again. Also taking several

> > baths per day and two of them with mms, taking juice plus vitamins

> > washing sheets everyday using nokout in environment. Maybe having a

> > glass of wine, listen to some nice music and be kind to yourself.

> > Just wanted to share about the panic attacks. They are aweful and you

> > truly feel like you are dying. Things are going to get better though!

> >

> > Rush

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> > Sent from my iPhone

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From: Walter Wiese <docwiese7@...>Subject: Panic attacks Date: Saturday, November 12, 2011, 10:26 AM

Thank you for every-ones replies. However, for every reply, we have tried to no avail, which I believe was due more to the chemistry changes from the TBI accident. Adrenal builders, Hormonal balancing (Thyroid), Hypnosis, Essential oils and now Bach Flowers again. She is now in a hospital, she signed herself into getting one on one therapy and group sessions. She will also be having outside therapy once she is released. I was hoping there was some magic treatment other then drugs, because I have seen to many commit suicide by getting hooked on those types of drugs.

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I would highly recommend spending some serious time listening to and studying the work of Eckhart Tolle.

Best anti-anxiety program on the planet...

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, everyone.

Yours truly,

Ann DC

From: "Lyndon McGill" <twogems@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:33:19 PMSubject: Panic attacks

Someone on the list was treating a patient with panic attacks, and I just received a junk mail about a treatment program for that condition. Not sure if it's anything worthwhile, but here is the link to their web site:http://www.panicmiracle.comLyndon McGill, D.C.Salem, Oregonwww.SalemSpineClinic.comwww.LimitlessRelief.comwww.EvolvingDaily.com

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They tell me that verbosity sells ... if that's true, this guy's gonna take the cake! Give me chiropractic everytime! Happy Thanksgiving, all SunnySunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com From: twogems@...Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:33:19 -0800Subject: Panic attacks

Someone on the list was treating a patient with panic attacks, and I

just received a junk mail about a treatment program for that condition.

Not sure if it's anything worthwhile, but here is the link to their web

site:

http://www.panicmiracle.com

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

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I concur with Dr. Ann. The writings of Eckhart Tolle are powerful. It takes

some effort but studying his concepts of the mind pays huge dividends. Great

stuff!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Jim Neilson DC, Bend

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Hi there could having an under treated under active thyroid be reasonable for my

panic attacks?They started after I had my first child and I was later diagnosed

with hypothyroidism and post natal depression.I also had terrible haemerroging a

few weeks after the birth too.I have never ever been totally well in nearly 16

years and now with the diagnosis of fibromyalgia I am trying to get my head

round all this.

Will I ever be well again?

Ali

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