Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I am not familiar with this test. You need to find out if the test can be administered as frequently as you wish to monitor, whether it be yearly or more often. Many standardized tests can not be done more than once every 12 months or the results are considered invalid. In Texas I have found that most schools use the Brigance to measure progress, and frequent testing doesn't affect reliability or validity on testing results. The only problem I have run into is when they release a new version -- you can't compare the results of one version to another. You can resolve this by having the school continue to use the same version, but somewhere down the line you will have to switch over to the latest test. The Brigance covers a broad span of grade/age levels. And you should be able to use the results (weaknesses) to write your child's IEPs. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I am not familiar with this test. You need to find out if the test can be administered as frequently as you wish to monitor, whether it be yearly or more often. Many standardized tests can not be done more than once every 12 months or the results are considered invalid. In Texas I have found that most schools use the Brigance to measure progress, and frequent testing doesn't affect reliability or validity on testing results. The only problem I have run into is when they release a new version -- you can't compare the results of one version to another. You can resolve this by having the school continue to use the same version, but somewhere down the line you will have to switch over to the latest test. The Brigance covers a broad span of grade/age levels. And you should be able to use the results (weaknesses) to write your child's IEPs. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 In a message dated 9/23/2003 1:07:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Barbdwire@... writes: In Texas I have found that most schools use the Brigance to measure progress, and frequent testing doesn't affect reliability or validity on testing results. The only problem I have run into is when they release a new version -- you can't compare the results of one version to another. You can resolve this by having the school continue to use the same version, but somewhere down the line you will have to switch over to the latest test. The Brigance covers a broad span of grade/age levels. And you should be able to use the results (weaknesses) to write your child's IEPs. Good suggestion Barb, I am not familiar with the Brigance reading test, but I used the Brigance math test at the beginning of every year on all of my middle school students when I was teaching. It was quick and gave a snapshot view of the operational grade level of each student. If any problem missed was below grade level, I could then give a few more checkup problems of the same type to see if it was a careless mistake or a true problem area. I liked the fact that the math test scores the child as to functional grade level, and that I was able to recommend tutoring in specific areas of weakness to the parents. Does the Brigance Reading test operate the same way? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 In a message dated 9/23/2003 1:07:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Barbdwire@... writes: In Texas I have found that most schools use the Brigance to measure progress, and frequent testing doesn't affect reliability or validity on testing results. The only problem I have run into is when they release a new version -- you can't compare the results of one version to another. You can resolve this by having the school continue to use the same version, but somewhere down the line you will have to switch over to the latest test. The Brigance covers a broad span of grade/age levels. And you should be able to use the results (weaknesses) to write your child's IEPs. Good suggestion Barb, I am not familiar with the Brigance reading test, but I used the Brigance math test at the beginning of every year on all of my middle school students when I was teaching. It was quick and gave a snapshot view of the operational grade level of each student. If any problem missed was below grade level, I could then give a few more checkup problems of the same type to see if it was a careless mistake or a true problem area. I liked the fact that the math test scores the child as to functional grade level, and that I was able to recommend tutoring in specific areas of weakness to the parents. Does the Brigance Reading test operate the same way? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 In a message dated 9/24/2003 9:02:57 AM Central Daylight Time, Barbdwire@... writes: This is a link to the Brigance website which has additional information, including the different types of assessment tools they offer. There are also brochures on several of their products, if anyone is interested. http://www.curricassoc.com/brigance/ Barbara Thank you Barbara! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 In a message dated 9/24/2003 9:02:57 AM Central Daylight Time, Barbdwire@... writes: This is a link to the Brigance website which has additional information, including the different types of assessment tools they offer. There are also brochures on several of their products, if anyone is interested. http://www.curricassoc.com/brigance/ Barbara Thank you Barbara! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 -- I'm not a teacher and I have never actually seen the test, but it appears to work the same way -- judging from the results that I have seen (data that the school has shown me from the testing). I am always careful to have the teachers specify which version they used for the testing (Blue, Green, Green Revised) to mark on my copies so when we review at ARDs in later years, we can have a better idea of actual progress and what we are comparing. I remember one year they went through 2 changes. The Brigance has a variety of tests in different areas, not all are academic. Some measure life skills. This is a link to the Brigance website which has additional information, including the different types of assessment tools they offer. There are also brochures on several of their products, if anyone is interested. http://www.curricassoc.com/brigance/ Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 -- I'm not a teacher and I have never actually seen the test, but it appears to work the same way -- judging from the results that I have seen (data that the school has shown me from the testing). I am always careful to have the teachers specify which version they used for the testing (Blue, Green, Green Revised) to mark on my copies so when we review at ARDs in later years, we can have a better idea of actual progress and what we are comparing. I remember one year they went through 2 changes. The Brigance has a variety of tests in different areas, not all are academic. Some measure life skills. This is a link to the Brigance website which has additional information, including the different types of assessment tools they offer. There are also brochures on several of their products, if anyone is interested. http://www.curricassoc.com/brigance/ Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 , this one came through fine. Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 You seem to be getting all your messages through ! :-) Testing Am I getting out --- Bartolino --- jfbartolino@... --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I got your 'test' Bonnie. Sorry to hear about your 'crash'. Hope you get it all straightened out... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Bonnie, Better at work than home, for sure! I had the foresight, 24, almost 25 years ago, to give birth to a puter head...LOL My son is my own personal help tech. His Dad too, so if I can't get one, I can usually get the other. I hear ya GF, on the well timed breaths! Seems this past week, I've put them to good use, myself! Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Kiki -- the crash was at work, and believe me, I panicked when a screen came up saying my C drive was being scrubbed of data.... However, I called our IT guys (I'm a tech writer, not a computer guru!) -- they've had to re-install a few of my programs, but as I typically do my work on the system rather than my hard-drive, I didn't lose anything important. So, other than losing a few personal links, I seem to be okay. Sure hope this DOESN'T happen at home (actually, my husband is a developer, he can keep the machine running far better than I -- but he's not an IT person!). Found out that a few well-timed LL breaths helped yesterday -- at least I didn't get totally hysterical!!!! (LOL!) Bonnie Re: testing I got your 'test' Bonnie. Sorry to hear about your 'crash'. Hope you get it all straightened out... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I hear you Bonnie ! :-) Connie testing didn't get ANY notes in the overnight mail buildup -- also crashed my computer big time yesterday -- testing to see if I'm still signed up for this group Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Yes,over the years I've done several sweat tests with Biolab and thought it was a great idea. However I've heard recently that it's not very accurate, so, until I know differently, I personally will stick to blood. Abbie Re: Testing This is what Biolab wrote me - anybody had one of these? Thank you for the additional details. Many laboratories only measure red cell minerals, or in some cases only serum minerals, because they do not have the in-house expertise to offer a wider range of mineral tests. However, Biolab was set up specifically to provide the best tests of nutritional status. If you can bring your son to Biolab we could do a sweat metal profile which includes minerals and toxic metals. I have attached a general information leaflet about Biolab which provides further details about this. Alternatively, we could do a serum mineral screen with a red cell magnesium, for which a test kit is available on request. For either of these tests your son should not take any mineral containing nutritional supplements on the day of the tests. Mandi In a message dated 10/11/2004 09:06:06 GMT Standard Time, catherine.devereux@... writes: As far as I know you can only get the RBC mins from DDI or MM and need a doctor on board to get the kit sent to you as need a practitioners referral. We are following the min testing protocol but it still means 7 tubes of blood - anyone any suggestions how to get this amount from a normally compliant 8 year old who freaks as soon as a needle is in sight - I think our only way forward is some form of sedative - any suggestions??? With best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 This is what Biolab wrote me - anybody had one of these? Thank you for the additional details. Many laboratories only measure red cell minerals, or in some cases only serum minerals, because they do not have the in-house expertise to offer a wider range of mineral tests. However, Biolab was set up specifically to provide the best tests of nutritional status. If you can bring your son to Biolab we could do a sweat metal profile which includes minerals and toxic metals. I have attached a general information leaflet about Biolab which provides further details about this. Alternatively, we could do a serum mineral screen with a red cell magnesium, for which a test kit is available on request. For either of these tests your son should not take any mineral containing nutritional supplements on the day of the tests. Mandi In a message dated 10/11/2004 09:06:06 GMT Standard Time, catherine.devereux@... writes: As far as I know you can only get the RBC mins from DDI or MM and need a doctor on board to get the kit sent to you as need a practitioners referral. We are following the min testing protocol but it still means 7 tubes of blood - anyone any suggestions how to get this amount from a normally compliant 8 year old who freaks as soon as a needle is in sight - I think our only way forward is some form of sedative - any suggestions??? With best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 No I wouldn;t want the sweat test, I want blood - he is suggesting serum minerals - Sharon have you had this done? (Sharon has lots of tests LOL) Mandi in UK Yes,over the years I've done several sweat tests with Biolab and thought it was a great idea. However I've heard recently that it's not very accurate, so, until I know differently, I personally will stick to blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 I *see* you Deanna! The list has been quiet! Have a nice day! Testing > > Just seeing if anyone is around and I am getting mail. I have not seen > any on here for a couple days! > > Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 LOL Deanna! We are here, but November is typically a quiet month for our list. Lots of folks are doing shows and getting ready for the holidays. I've actually been updating my website, making cp soap, and filling orders. Yay! That's always a good thing. I'm also trying to decide what the menu will be for Thanksgiving. I get tired of the same old turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, squash, gravy, etc. My brother & girlfriend are coming for dinner. He bought us an early Christmas gift, a turkey fryer. So at least the taste of the turkey will be different this year! I hope all are well & that your shows are doing better as the holidays come closer! Colleen Handcrafted Glycerin Soap http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Well good! I don't feel so alone anymore!!! LOL I have been busy too. Getting ready to go to NC for Thanksgiving and getting a bunch of products together to sell while there. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 In a message dated 11/18/2004 11:28:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, ocsoap@... writes: Just seeing if anyone is around and I am getting mail. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm here, although I shouldn't be. My dd's wedding shower is here on Sat., so I need to be busy with those preparations. I probably won't be on much, as you can see, LOL. Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I'm only got this email an no other posts. Is this an AOL thing again? , Kathy, ? Anyone have any idea what the heck is happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I'm only got this email an no other posts. Is this an AOL thing again? , Kathy, ? Anyone have any idea what the heck is happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 In a message dated 12/30/2004 7:01:13 AM Central Standard Time, cindysue@... writes: Y'all are just being boring, that is all Kathy still has her family with her and , well who knows- she's been quiet Do you want me to send Tim? Hi I am here but only in the wee morning hours or before I go to bed Yes, family is still in town but only my brother and child ......... who doesn't need me to entertain him lol I am baby-sitting this week so my house is full of little girls + a baby boy and my grandson. I think Im going to get hubby to take the girls to the movies and Ill take the baby shopping lol My goal for the house is to have it up on the market Jan 15th ........... whether its fully ready or not lol Hubby's been having some chest pains, dizzy spells and his blood pressure is a bit high so In sending him to the DR this morn. After what happened to my Mom he's kind of freakin out ..... cant blame him Christmas was great, hectic and very busy. My baby sister left Tuesday for Atlanta .... She has Christmas with my BIL's family too. Beth is a middle school teacher so her time off is running all around lol Everyone have a safe fun New Years!!!!!! Im praying 2005 will be kinder to us all. Kathy mom to Sara 13 ¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___ ¸...¸ ,·´º o`·, /__/ _/\_ \__\ ,·´º o`·, ```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | | | ```)¨(´´´ ¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-.¸ As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Josh. 24:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 In a message dated 12/30/2004 7:01:13 AM Central Standard Time, cindysue@... writes: Y'all are just being boring, that is all Kathy still has her family with her and , well who knows- she's been quiet Do you want me to send Tim? Hi I am here but only in the wee morning hours or before I go to bed Yes, family is still in town but only my brother and child ......... who doesn't need me to entertain him lol I am baby-sitting this week so my house is full of little girls + a baby boy and my grandson. I think Im going to get hubby to take the girls to the movies and Ill take the baby shopping lol My goal for the house is to have it up on the market Jan 15th ........... whether its fully ready or not lol Hubby's been having some chest pains, dizzy spells and his blood pressure is a bit high so In sending him to the DR this morn. After what happened to my Mom he's kind of freakin out ..... cant blame him Christmas was great, hectic and very busy. My baby sister left Tuesday for Atlanta .... She has Christmas with my BIL's family too. Beth is a middle school teacher so her time off is running all around lol Everyone have a safe fun New Years!!!!!! Im praying 2005 will be kinder to us all. Kathy mom to Sara 13 ¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___ ¸...¸ ,·´º o`·, /__/ _/\_ \__\ ,·´º o`·, ```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | | | ```)¨(´´´ ¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-.¸ As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Josh. 24:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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