Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 , when I first heard of this law being proposed, I posted here that the impact would be families being denied coverage and increases in premiums. The only ones making out are those who are employed by the large corporations. My daughter has been denied many times (a couple from BC/BS, Humana, Aetna, etc)) because of her autism when we applied for individual coverage. Those of us working for smaller businesses (like my husband) or have their own policies are now in danger of losing them or facing huge increases or the insurance company has a 'rider' where coverage for a certain condition is denied (I was denied coverage for anything related for weight loss the last time we had individual insurance). I'm sorry that you've been denied. You can try contact Illinois' Department of Insurance to see if you have a case. Finato www.AngelSpeaks.com www.wegrowdreams.org From: crzymomf3@... <crzymomf3@...> Subject: Possible increase in insurance coverage denial as a result of our new Autism Law?? " Illinois Parents of Adult " <IPADDUnite >, " Autism chicago " <AutismNews > Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 10:28 AM Just curious, has anyone experienced, or heard of others experiencing, an increase in denials of health insurance coverage as a result of our new Illinois Autism Law? I have always expected a larger premium for families with a child with Autism, but having just received a " denial of health care coverage " for my sons because of their Autism, I am wondering what good the law will do us all if insurance companies begin/increase their denials of health insurance coverage for families affected with Autism. Isn't this just a way for them to get out of complying with the new law. And this denial comes from a very reputable Illinois insurance company (BCBS of Illinois). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I thought the law was going to do the exact opposite of what you're describing. How did you obtain coverage with BCBS IL? Was it through an employer, or bought privately? Could you reply to the group with the exact language BCBS used to state they were denying coverage? Stay calm in the meantime. Sometimes with insurance coverage is denied because the MDs didn't code the diagnosis or treatment the was the insurance people wanted it. -Gail (who used to be in a BCBS plan) From: crzymomf3@... <crzymomf3@...> Subject: Possible increase in insurance coverage denial as a result of our new Autism Law?? " Illinois Parents of Adult " <IPADDUnite >, " Autism chicago " <AutismNews > Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 12:28 PM Just curious, has anyone experienced, or heard of others experiencing, an increase in denials of health insurance coverage as a result of our new Illinois Autism Law? I have always expected a larger premium for families with a child with Autism, but having just received a " denial of health care coverage " for my sons because of their Autism, I am wondering what good the law will do us all if insurance companies begin/increase their denials of health insurance coverage for families affected with Autism. Isn't this just a way for them to get out of complying with the new law. And this denial comes from a very reputable Illinois insurance company (BCBS of Illinois). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 The people who proposed the bill wanted everyone to think that way. I remember reading in a statement that they prepared that they did not anticipate an increase in premiums. When I applied for individual health insurance, I had called them ahead of time to see if they would cover someone with autism and I got the run around (they said it was based on their review of the application, yeah, right). Angel was declined because of her preexisting condition - autism. All of the carriers declined her. The only BCBS coverage we've had for Angel was group coverage through an employer. I believe that Illinois Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan is administered by BCBS. However, unless you come from a HIIPA plan with I believe 18 months of continuous coverage, there is a six month wait for preexistings. When Illinois expanded the KidCare program into All Kids (the only good thing Blago did for this state), then income levels were drastically increased and we were able to get Angel covered until her 19th birthday (it's 19 if they are still in school, otherwise, 18). The reason why I didn't think that was a good law is because I knew people like me (thank God Angel is now over 18) would not get coverage for our autistic children unless we worked for a large company. Those of us working for smaller companies or self employed will be in worse shape now. Finato www.AngelSpeaks.com www.wegrowdreams.org From: crzymomf3comcast (DOT) net <crzymomf3comcast (DOT) net> Subject: Possible increase in insurance coverage denial as a result of our new Autism Law?? " Illinois Parents of Adult " <IPADDUnite@gro ups.com>, " Autism chicago " <AutismNews@gro ups.com> Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 12:28 PM Just curious, has anyone experienced, or heard of others experiencing, an increase in denials of health insurance coverage as a result of our new Illinois Autism Law? I have always expected a larger premium for families with a child with Autism, but having just received a " denial of health care coverage " for my sons because of their Autism, I am wondering what good the law will do us all if insurance companies begin/increase their denials of health insurance coverage for families affected with Autism. Isn't this just a way for them to get out of complying with the new law. And this denial comes from a very reputable Illinois insurance company (BCBS of Illinois). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I am not sure if you are referring to new policies being written, or old policies being renewed. The new law may not prevent insurance companies from refusing to write new contracts for families with a child with autism. However, if there is an existing policy, the insurance company cannot refuse to renew it. Section 356z.11(e) states " An insurer may not deny or refuse to provide otherwise covered services, or refuse to renew, refuse to reissue, or otherwise terminate or restrict coverage under an individual contract to provide services to an individual because the individual or their dependent is diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder or due to the individual utilizing benefits in this Section. " http://www.geocities.com/fishstep/SB1900.html/ As for large, self-funded plans of employers, to exclude an individual with a disability (health factor) would violate the Parity section of " HIPPPA. " However, that law would not require the plan from providing a coverage which would benefit that individual. The new 2008 Parity law (effective 2010) strengthens the Parity law of the 1996 HIPPPA, by requiring no greater dollar copayments or deductibles for mental health, and no separate limit on the number of annual visits; however, it does not require any specific type of treatment to be included in the plan. http://www.geocities.com/fishstep/ERISA-Parity.html > > Just curious, has anyone experienced, or heard of others experiencing, an increase in denials of health insurance coverage as a result of our new Illinois Autism Law? > > I have always expected a larger premium for families with a child with Autism, but having just received a " denial of health care coverage " for my sons because of their Autism, I am wondering what good the law will do us all if insurance companies begin/increase their denials of health insurance coverage for families affected with Autism. Isn't this just a way for them to get out of complying with the new law. And this denial comes from a very reputable Illinois insurance company (BCBS of Illinois). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 They can't refuse to renew it, but they sure can ask for a much larger premium. One of my clients was paying $2500 a month for health insurance for himself only. Years before, he was seriously injured on the job (self employed - no workman's comp) and had thousands of dollars of medical bills. Each year, the insurance company did a huge increase on him to make it up. Finato www.AngelSpeaks.com www.wegrowdreams.org From: fishstep <fishstep@...> Subject: Re: Possible increase in insurance coverage denial as a result of our new Autism Law?? IPADDUnite Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 7:55 AM I am not sure if you are referring to new policies being written, or old policies being renewed. The new law may not prevent insurance companies from refusing to write new contracts for families with a child with autism. However, if there is an existing policy, the insurance company cannot refuse to renew it. Section 356z.11(e) states " An insurer may not deny or refuse to provide otherwise covered services, or refuse to renew, refuse to reissue, or otherwise terminate or restrict coverage under an individual contract to provide services to an individual because the individual or their dependent is diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder or due to the individual utilizing benefits in this Section. " http://www.geocitie s.com/fishstep/ SB1900.html/ As for large, self-funded plans of employers, to exclude an individual with a disability (health factor) would violate the Parity section of " HIPPPA. " However, that law would not require the plan from providing a coverage which would benefit that individual. The new 2008 Parity law (effective 2010) strengthens the Parity law of the 1996 HIPPPA, by requiring no greater dollar copayments or deductibles for mental health, and no separate limit on the number of annual visits; however, it does not require any specific type of treatment to be included in the plan. http://www.geocitie s.com/fishstep/ ERISA-Parity. html > > Just curious, has anyone experienced, or heard of others experiencing, an increase in denials of health insurance coverage as a result of our new Illinois Autism Law? > > I have always expected a larger premium for families with a child with Autism, but having just received a " denial of health care coverage " for my sons because of their Autism, I am wondering what good the law will do us all if insurance companies begin/increase their denials of health insurance coverage for families affected with Autism. Isn't this just a way for them to get out of complying with the new law. And this denial comes from a very reputable Illinois insurance company (BCBS of Illinois). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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