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ly, I think unionizing direct support workers would be a disaster for

all...

I am totally opposed.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Re: SIEU, Blagojevich, and the Home-Based Programs

ly, aa organized union for these workers is not needed. When my

son had his resbid care his caregivers belonged to the union, they

took a chunk of their money, did nothing for them, gave them no

benefits. All they ever did was call on them to go walking in

protests in Springfield which personally I felt was a big ripoff.

They should have been paid to go, not pay then to aggravate them to

do their job. I know a lot of you are really 'political' and feel

this is the way to go with all this but I differ. I worked for a

union all my life and am now retired, it is not that I am talking

agains unions, it is just in this case the workers cannot benefit.

All it will do is take money from their pocked for someonelse.

My thoughts.

>

> Order Highlights Close Ties With SEIU

>

>

>

> DECEMBER 15, 2008, 10:51 P.M. ET

>

>

>

> By KRIS MAHER and DAVID KESMODEL

>

>

>

> Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was preparing to issue an executive

order

> prior to his arrest last week that would have allowed union

organizing of

> home-care workers that could have benefited a labor union with

close ties to

> the governor.

>

>

>

> The existence of this executive order, though never signed,

illustrates the

> close ties between the embattled governor and the powerful Service

Employees

> International Union, the nation's fastest growing labor

organization. Last

> week, Gov. Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges,

including

> that his office suggested a deal in which he would be given a job

with an

> SEIU-affiliated group in exchange for naming a labor-friendly

senator to

> fill the vacancy left by President-elect Barack Obama.

>

>

>

> The executive order would have enabled the SEIU or another union to

organize

> about 1,200 workers in the state who care for developmentally

disabled

> people in their homes and would have augmented one signed by the

governor in

> 2003, said Ringuette, an SEIU spokeswoman. The prior order

opened

> the way for the SEIU to target a far larger number of home health-

care

> workers. Such workers traditionally aren't covered by federal labor

law,

> though a number of states have enacted laws in recent years

allowing unions

> to organize them.

>

>

>

> Ms. Ringuette said the SEIU was aware of the executive order but

didn't know

> what role, if any, the union played in developing it. She said

other unions

> would have been able to organize the workers as well. But a rival

union said

> it was unaware of the order, while SEIU staffers and outside

experts say the

> SEIU had already begun actively seeking the support of workers.

>

>

>

> Gov. Blagojevich's press secretary, Lucio Guerrero, didn't respond

to

> requests for comment.

>

>

>

> Bruno, an associate professor of labor and industrial

relations at

> the University of Illinois-Chicago, said the SEIU had played a role

in the

> order and had begun trying to organize workers. " They were making

progress

> on working towards an executive order, and I'm sure that they were

expecting

> the governor to sign it, " Mr. Bruno said. He said there was nothing

illegal

> about the SEIU trying to persuade the governor to sign an executive

order

> that would enable the union to organize more workers.

>

>

>

> But cooperation with the governor's office raises questions of

unfair

> treatment if the union had an advantage over other unions in

signing up the

> workers. Gov. Blagojevich's prior executive order sparked tensions

between

> the SEIU and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal

> Employees, which also has sought to expand its representation of

home

> health-care workers in the state.

>

>

>

> An Illinois spokesman for AFSCME said the group was unaware of a

potential

> executive order. More than a year ago, the spokesman said, the

union was

> contacted by in-home workers interested in forming a union, and it

requested

> a list of eligible workers from the state. Illinois " refused to

provide it,

> making it impossible for AFSCME to find the workers to help them

organize, "

> the spokesman said. " We think all workers should have ... the

opportunity to

> select the union of their choosing. "

>

>

>

> Charlotte Cronin, executive director of Family Support Network of

Illinois,

> a Peoria-based advocacy group for the developmentally disabled,

confirmed

> that union organizers knocked on doors this past summer, and that

some

> relatives of the disabled found them " overly persistent. " She said

the

> union, which she believed to be SEIU, was able to get home

addresses because

> they are a matter of public record.

>

>

>

> Write to Kris Maher at kris.maher@... and Kesmodel at

> david.kesmodel@...

>

>

>

>

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However, there should be some other way to 1) recognize support workers as true

professionals and provide for their development and 2) make sure that they

receive a decent wage and benefits.  I think that IDHD at UIC has done quite a

bit of work in this area. 

 

ALex

" The secret to l'Arche is relationship: meeting people...heart to heart " .  Jean

Vanier

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andra Conroy

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L'Arche Chicago 1049 S Austin Blvd Chicago IL 60644                     

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From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

Subject: Re: Re: SIEU, Blagojevich, and the Home-Based Programs

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Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 7:49 AM

ly, I think unionizing direct support workers would be a disaster for

all...

I am totally opposed.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net

Re: SIEU, Blagojevich, and the Home-Based Programs

ly, aa organized union for these workers is not needed. When my

son had his resbid care his caregivers belonged to the union, they

took a chunk of their money, did nothing for them, gave them no

benefits. All they ever did was call on them to go walking in

protests in Springfield which personally I felt was a big ripoff.

They should have been paid to go, not pay then to aggravate them to

do their job. I know a lot of you are really 'political' and feel

this is the way to go with all this but I differ. I worked for a

union all my life and am now retired, it is not that I am talking

agains unions, it is just in this case the workers cannot benefit.

All it will do is take money from their pocked for someonelse.

My thoughts.

>

> Order Highlights Close Ties With SEIU

>

>

>

> DECEMBER 15, 2008, 10:51 P.M. ET

>

>

>

> By KRIS MAHER and DAVID KESMODEL

>

>

>

> Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was preparing to issue an executive

order

> prior to his arrest last week that would have allowed union

organizing of

> home-care workers that could have benefited a labor union with

close ties to

> the governor.

>

>

>

> The existence of this executive order, though never signed,

illustrates the

> close ties between the embattled governor and the powerful Service

Employees

> International Union, the nation's fastest growing labor

organization. Last

> week, Gov. Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges,

including

> that his office suggested a deal in which he would be given a job

with an

> SEIU-affiliated group in exchange for naming a labor-friendly

senator to

> fill the vacancy left by President-elect Barack Obama.

>

>

>

> The executive order would have enabled the SEIU or another union to

organize

> about 1,200 workers in the state who care for developmentally

disabled

> people in their homes and would have augmented one signed by the

governor in

> 2003, said Ringuette, an SEIU spokeswoman. The prior order

opened

> the way for the SEIU to target a far larger number of home health-

care

> workers. Such workers traditionally aren't covered by federal labor

law,

> though a number of states have enacted laws in recent years

allowing unions

> to organize them.

>

>

>

> Ms. Ringuette said the SEIU was aware of the executive order but

didn't know

> what role, if any, the union played in developing it. She said

other unions

> would have been able to organize the workers as well. But a rival

union said

> it was unaware of the order, while SEIU staffers and outside

experts say the

> SEIU had already begun actively seeking the support of workers.

>

>

>

> Gov. Blagojevich' s press secretary, Lucio Guerrero, didn't respond

to

> requests for comment.

>

>

>

> Bruno, an associate professor of labor and industrial

relations at

> the University of Illinois-Chicago, said the SEIU had played a role

in the

> order and had begun trying to organize workers. " They were making

progress

> on working towards an executive order, and I'm sure that they were

expecting

> the governor to sign it, " Mr. Bruno said. He said there was nothing

illegal

> about the SEIU trying to persuade the governor to sign an executive

order

> that would enable the union to organize more workers.

>

>

>

> But cooperation with the governor's office raises questions of

unfair

> treatment if the union had an advantage over other unions in

signing up the

> workers. Gov. Blagojevich' s prior executive order sparked tensions

between

> the SEIU and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal

> Employees, which also has sought to expand its representation of

home

> health-care workers in the state.

>

>

>

> An Illinois spokesman for AFSCME said the group was unaware of a

potential

> executive order. More than a year ago, the spokesman said, the

union was

> contacted by in-home workers interested in forming a union, and it

requested

> a list of eligible workers from the state. Illinois " refused to

provide it,

> making it impossible for AFSCME to find the workers to help them

organize, "

> the spokesman said. " We think all workers should have ... the

opportunity to

> select the union of their choosing. "

>

>

>

> Charlotte Cronin, executive director of Family Support Network of

Illinois,

> a Peoria-based advocacy group for the developmentally disabled,

confirmed

> that union organizers knocked on doors this past summer, and that

some

> relatives of the disabled found them " overly persistent. " She said

the

> union, which she believed to be SEIU, was able to get home

addresses because

> they are a matter of public record.

>

>

>

> Write to Kris Maher at kris.maher@. .. and Kesmodel at

> david.kesmodel@ ...

>

>

>

>

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andra:

You are right, Illinois Dept.of Human Development at the University of Illinois

in Chicago has been doing good work to professionalize the role of support

workers...we all need to be making noise with our local legislators (even now,

when the state of Illinois is in terrible financial shape) about the need to pay

community workers a living wage...

If direct support staff made decent money, they probably wouldn't need to

consider joining a union...

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Re: SIEU, Blagojevich, and the Home-Based Programs

ly, aa organized union for these workers is not needed. When my

son had his resbid care his caregivers belonged to the union, they

took a chunk of their money, did nothing for them, gave them no

benefits. All they ever did was call on them to go walking in

protests in Springfield which personally I felt was a big ripoff.

They should have been paid to go, not pay then to aggravate them to

do their job. I know a lot of you are really 'political' and feel

this is the way to go with all this but I differ. I worked for a

union all my life and am now retired, it is not that I am talking

agains unions, it is just in this case the workers cannot benefit.

All it will do is take money from their pocked for someonelse.

My thoughts.

>

> Order Highlights Close Ties With SEIU

>

>

>

> DECEMBER 15, 2008, 10:51 P.M. ET

>

>

>

> By KRIS MAHER and DAVID KESMODEL

>

>

>

> Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was preparing to issue an executive

order

> prior to his arrest last week that would have allowed union

organizing of

> home-care workers that could have benefited a labor union with

close ties to

> the governor.

>

>

>

> The existence of this executive order, though never signed,

illustrates the

> close ties between the embattled governor and the powerful Service

Employees

> International Union, the nation's fastest growing labor

organization. Last

> week, Gov. Blagojevich was arrested on federal corruption charges,

including

> that his office suggested a deal in which he would be given a job

with an

> SEIU-affiliated group in exchange for naming a labor-friendly

senator to

> fill the vacancy left by President-elect Barack Obama.

>

>

>

> The executive order would have enabled the SEIU or another union to

organize

> about 1,200 workers in the state who care for developmentally

disabled

> people in their homes and would have augmented one signed by the

governor in

> 2003, said Ringuette, an SEIU spokeswoman. The prior order

opened

> the way for the SEIU to target a far larger number of home health-

care

> workers. Such workers traditionally aren't covered by federal labor

law,

> though a number of states have enacted laws in recent years

allowing unions

> to organize them.

>

>

>

> Ms. Ringuette said the SEIU was aware of the executive order but

didn't know

> what role, if any, the union played in developing it. She said

other unions

> would have been able to organize the workers as well. But a rival

union said

> it was unaware of the order, while SEIU staffers and outside

experts say the

> SEIU had already begun actively seeking the support of workers.

>

>

>

> Gov. Blagojevich' s press secretary, Lucio Guerrero, didn't respond

to

> requests for comment.

>

>

>

> Bruno, an associate professor of labor and industrial

relations at

> the University of Illinois-Chicago, said the SEIU had played a role

in the

> order and had begun trying to organize workers. " They were making

progress

> on working towards an executive order, and I'm sure that they were

expecting

> the governor to sign it, " Mr. Bruno said. He said there was nothing

illegal

> about the SEIU trying to persuade the governor to sign an executive

order

> that would enable the union to organize more workers.

>

>

>

> But cooperation with the governor's office raises questions of

unfair

> treatment if the union had an advantage over other unions in

signing up the

> workers. Gov. Blagojevich' s prior executive order sparked tensions

between

> the SEIU and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal

> Employees, which also has sought to expand its representation of

home

> health-care workers in the state.

>

>

>

> An Illinois spokesman for AFSCME said the group was unaware of a

potential

> executive order. More than a year ago, the spokesman said, the

union was

> contacted by in-home workers interested in forming a union, and it

requested

> a list of eligible workers from the state. Illinois " refused to

provide it,

> making it impossible for AFSCME to find the workers to help them

organize, "

> the spokesman said. " We think all workers should have ... the

opportunity to

> select the union of their choosing. "

>

>

>

> Charlotte Cronin, executive director of Family Support Network of

Illinois,

> a Peoria-based advocacy group for the developmentally disabled,

confirmed

> that union organizers knocked on doors this past summer, and that

some

> relatives of the disabled found them " overly persistent. " She said

the

> union, which she believed to be SEIU, was able to get home

addresses because

> they are a matter of public record.

>

>

>

> Write to Kris Maher at kris.maher@. .. and Kesmodel at

> david.kesmodel@ ...

>

>

>

>

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