Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 In a message dated 6/30/01 10:43:45 AM Central Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: > I've been thinking about coming up with my own PC language period so I can > look down on anybody who doesn't know it, flame them, throw rocks at them > and sneer at their ignorance. I could call it GPCJ for Granny's Politically > Correct Jargon. May as well begin with a new term for " client, consumer, > customer " or whatever. How's this: " service recipient " or " serpent " for > short. From now on, anyone calling our kids anything save " serpents " will be > flamed, have rocks thrown at them and be sneered at. :^) > > granny ROTFLOL Granny I really don't see a problem with any of these words describing our children, in a business sense. I guess where I get riled up is the context in which folks use labels, really the attitude they have while using it.....example the 2nd grade father of the little girl in Sara's class said " Why is that retarded girl in my daughter's class anyway " that I have a problem with...the retarded girls name is SARA and he knew that.....so Sara's retarded, its just a difference ....like his daughters longgggggg neck.....which I didn't make any reference to. Kathy mom to Sara 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 I've been thinking about coming up with my own PC language period so I can look down on anybody who doesn't know it, flame them, throw rocks at them and sneer at their ignorance. I could call it GPCJ for Granny's Politically Correct Jargon. May as well begin with a new term for " client, consumer, customer " or whatever. How's this: " service recipient " or " serpent " for short. From now on, anyone calling our kids anything save " serpents " will be flamed, have rocks thrown at them and be sneered at. :^) granny --- " Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age. " -- Feather http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html Re: Case Managers > The word they are using in NY is " consumer " . I hate that one too. Granny, > why dont we come up with our own PC term? > > I just say, " the person that so and so is working with " . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Re: Case Managers/GPCJ > ROTFLOL Granny > > I really don't see a problem with any of these words describing our children, > in a business sense. > > I guess where I get riled up is the context in which folks use labels, really > the attitude they have while using it.....example the 2nd grade father of the > little girl in Sara's class said " Why is that retarded girl in my daughter's > class anyway " that I have a problem with...the retarded girls name is SARA > and he knew that.....so Sara's retarded, its just a difference ....like his > daughters longgggggg neck.....which I didn't make any reference to. > > Kathy mom to Sara 9 People such as that father are not important enough to get in a dither about, Kathy. granny --- " Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age. " -- Feather http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 In a message dated 6/30/01 4:24:48 PM Central Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: > People such as that father are not important enough to get in a dither > about, Kathy. > > granny Well, I might agree with you BUT this same father and his sad attitude is the same dad who tried to get Sara expelled ....Because of IDEA he couldn't but he did upset the principal enough to get Sara a two hour time out (I know she would have never done that if this father had chilled) . The principal now understand " I " am one to be feared and not this father ignorance can hurt our kids, sad but true Kathy mom to Sara 9.............who does take ignorant folks a little more serious now (I dont lose sleep lol)......... they can cause turmoil in our path of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Isn't the term " serpent " a more accurate description of many of the Social Services workers (NOT !!!)??? I have seldom come across one who seems to enjoy their job, who doesn't look down on " service recipients. " " Let us not be content to wait and see what will happen, but give us the determination to make the right things happen. " -- Marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 In a message dated 06/30/2001 8:41:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, BigJess1969@... writes: << sn't the term " serpent " a more accurate description of many of the Social Services workers >> Oh, I have to disagree with you there. My husband is a casemanager...underpaid, over worked, unappreciated by most of the parents, believe me, he is in it because of his love of the kids. Also, as a foster parent, I am in contact with CPS caseworkers all the time. I have met some wonderful caring people. Of course, as with anything there are those who aren't as good, and as usual, they all get painted with the same brush. If you have a casemanager who you aren't satisfied with, ask for another. Find one who you have confidence in and who will better meet your needs. There are plenty of good ones out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Re: Case Managers/GPCJ > Well, I might agree with you BUT this same father and his sad attitude is the > same dad who tried to get Sara expelled ....Because of IDEA he couldn't but > he did upset the principal enough to get Sara a two hour time out (I know she > would have never done that if this father had chilled) . The principal now > understand " I " am one to be feared and not this father ignorance can hurt > our kids, sad but true > > Kathy mom to Sara 9.............who does take ignorant folks a little more > serious now (I dont lose sleep lol)......... they can cause turmoil in our > path of life You've proved you're more important than he is, Kathy. The man is a jerk, small-minded and badly in need of an education. Therefore, unimportant. Just compare what he accomplished to what you accomplished. Hugs, granny --- " Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age. " -- Feather http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Have not had any problems with social workers, . All of them have been wonderful. The system under which they must work can be pretty tiresome, and they are overworked and underpaid with far too much paperwork, but the social workers themselves have been marvelous. granny --- " Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age. " -- Feather http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html Re: Case Managers/GPCJ > Isn't the term " serpent " a more accurate description of many of the Social > Services workers (NOT !!!)??? I have seldom come across one who seems > to enjoy their job, who doesn't look down on " service recipients. " > > > > " Let us not be content to wait and see what will happen, but give us the > determination to make the right things happen. " -- Marshall > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Our case managers ( Service coordinators) have been wonderful but if you ever have to deal with people at a social services office, whatever it is called in your state, that is another whole story. I think they are hired for their stupidity. I found one woman in our local office who is very nice and knows what is going on, so if necessary I call her. The one who is supposed to be our contact-----well, the smart one told me that woman knows as much about things as she does, but I told her you'd never know it to talk to her. Thank goodness I don't have to deal with them very often. They expect everyone else to be as stupid as they are and treat us accordingly. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 In a message dated 7/1/01 2:34:42 AM, From: Michdock@... e accurate description of many of the Social > > Services workers >> >Oh, I have to disagree with you there. My husband is a >casemanager... Here in Phoenix they are not called casmanagers anymore but Support Coordinators. and I are leaving for San Diego in the morning. Going to visit with my oldest brother and his family and go to the NDSS convention. Green mom to 18/ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 We have had to deal with one of those! I think it was Bones in one of the Star Trek movies that said, " The only constant in the universe is the bureaucratic mind. " However, the worse bureaucrats are working for Social Security. Oh the tales I could tell! granny --- " Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age. " -- Feather http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html Re: Case Managers/GPCJ > Our case managers ( Service coordinators) have been wonderful but if > you ever have to deal with people at a social services office, whatever it is > called in your state, that is another whole story. I think they are hired > for their stupidity. I found one woman in our local office who is very nice > and knows what is going on, so if necessary I call her. The one who is > supposed to be our contact-----well, the smart one told me that woman knows > as much about things as she does, but I told her you'd never know it to talk > to her. Thank goodness I don't have to deal with them very often. They > expect everyone else to be as stupid as they are and treat us accordingly. > Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 > Our case managers ( Service coordinators) have been wonderful but if > you ever have to deal with people at a social services office, whatever it is > called in your state, that is another whole story. I think they are hired > for their stupidity. I found one woman in our local office who is very nice > and knows what is OUCH!! My title is social worker, but alot of what I do is case managment. I will be the first to admit that I don't know everything and our policy manuals are so huge..thousands and thousands of pages...urgh! I mostly use a few chapters for my line or work (adoptions, interstate compact, home studies, etc.). I have a terrific supervisor who is highly respected in the state. Last month I mentioned that one of my clients could not get TANF due to her drug conviction. She had not heard that before...but it's not her job to read the benefit parts of the manual..just the services part. I knew that part of the policy because I had experience with another family a few years ago at another agency. We do allow other agencies to come in and speak to us at our unit meetings (there are 11 of us in my unit). Before I went on vacation, we had a speech and hearing agency come in to present to us. Even though I seem to have more experience in this area (thanks to ), I wanted to hear what they had to say. Unfortunately, a crisis popped up while I was at the suaree with another family and I missed that meeting " wrapping " things up (and it took me three days to do that!). I use clients when referring to the people I work with. I feel I am working for and with them. When I talk to the families, I do use " families " or " children " and not clients. I don't think anyone really wants social services to be in their lives, but sometimes there are no choices. I use the family centered mindset as much as I can. I do try hard to empower people....my job is so much easier when I have people asking me to do specific things. The consensus among my unit regarding our " favorite " families is that they have one thing in common......a sense of humor! I'm very fortunate to work for the best social service agency in the state of Virginia. Recently, I started a support group for adult adoptees. We had a horrible rain storm and yet 9 people showed up. The agency is supporting this group (and issues with search and reunions is a hot topic and many agencies are of the old mindset--my agency tries to keep up with current best practice) and we are now meeting monthly. We also have a nationally known adoptive and foster parent association that passed a bill for college tuitions to be funded for any student who was in foster care or a special needs adoptee at the time of their graduation (or receiving their GED). Many states are now trying to pass similar bills. I guess what I am saying is that caseworkers or social workers or service coordinators or whatever we are called really need to empower the families they work with/for and make sure they feel part of the " team " . Not everyone has the capability or desire to be a part of the team....there is alot of dependency on Social Services by some people. Ask how you can help (social services usually has a local board of directors and other committees where " representatives " are found from the client list). Part of my job responsibilities includes the interstate compact. I have worked with other social workers in other states/countries that I could just bop them on the head! It is so refreshing to work with other social workers who have a similar mindset that I have. Recently, I had one social worker from another state who called and had one of those " just between you and me " conversations. She put herself and job on the line to let me know what was really going on. She is between a rock and a hard place on her end...and I am just grateful that I have an awesome management team on mine (she doesn't!). Her honesty did allow me to brain storm with a family regarding their services and hopefully, things will be ironed out soon. Hey, 7.5 years ago I had written to my congressman about poor services by my local Dept of Health and Human Services (I had a witch for a worker while trying to get TEFRA for ). I outlined suggestions on how to change the policy and I'll be damned if they didn't use those suggestions and rewrite the policy!! The squeaky wheel does get the oil. One more thing.....if you do have a good worker, let them know. A simple thank you card or a letter to the director of the agency goes a long way. What we really love getting are pictures of families or a child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 I think the people I was talking about are what you call Dept. of Health and Human Services. In Kansas it is SRS, Social and Rehabilitative Services. The only time I've really dealt with them was in applying for Medicaid, which we have to redo every year. I think this last time was the first time I haven't received a statement for the landlord to fill out. They never heard of anyone who doesn't have a landlord I guess. Maybe I finally convinced them. They have simplified the form too. I know they deal with a lot of people who aren't quite " with " it, but most of them don't seem to be either. Our case management is entirely separate from that, so I wasn't criticizing you. We have only had this service for 3 or 4 years, 3, I think and have been happy with every one we've had. The one we had longest left about a year ago for a different job and we still keep in touch. She's been here a couple times and we talk often. She's kind of like another daughter, I call her my youngest. We changed agencies after she left, on her advice, and the one we have now is also very good. She was new when she started with us but her supervisor was our first case manager, and she is also very good, and very knowledgeable. Yes, I let them know how much I like them. We had another one in between but she was supposed to be the supervisor or whatever for the first agency and she didn't know beans. Finally she was asking me about things she should have been explaining to me. That was when we really decided to change. We are always happy to have them come but I understand not every one is. I kind of like having Service Coordination, it's like there's someone there between us and the world. Especially since and I are alone. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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