Re: OT, Young Living is a sham

[Guest guest]

Kathy , I didnt see that anyone was shamelessly advertising a

product. she offered a link and off the group info. It wasnt spammy

and it was helpfuland the information was ASKED for. Let each person

decide for themselves..your opinion of the company just differs.your

links about the company will help people make up their own minds.

In MLM some people make money , some dont.Its just like any business

some of them never make it. The thing about MLM is the amount lost is

usually much less than with a storefront that doesnt make it.

>

> I need to speak up here about Young Living, Kami, you're getting

sucked

> in.

> Young Living is an MLM, meaning, many losing money.

> Plus, advertising for your own personal business and profit is very

> tacky.

>

> Young is a Mormon cad. He uses emotions to sell stuff, loves to

> bear his testimony to how wonderful his oils are and how they are

the

> only good oils out there.

> Plus he lies and exagerates and tells stories of miracles that

aren't

> true. He never cured scoliosis or hearing loss, ok?

>

> If you want to pay far more than an oil is worth, go find a Young

Living

> Distributor.

>

> If you want to read up on Young, here is a great article.

> http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Young-

Oils/totalhealth2004.ht

> ml

> Or you can peruse these links

> http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/young.html

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bs.htm

> http://www.woobeyworld.com/AA-4.htm

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bsb.htm

>

> If you're really interested in essential oils, there is a

group I

> belong to.

> oils_herbs_etc/

> You can meet a lot of people who sell oils there.

> Make your own choices.

>

> No more self-advertising, ok?

>

> Thanks, Kami.

>

> Kathy, former Young Living Rep. Live and learn, I say.

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I need to speak up here about Quackwatch. Here's a thread from another website on the guy that runs Quackwatch. I just recently read that Quackwatch tried to bring a lawsuit against an organization that helps women who are having problems with their implants. That suit was also thrown out. This guy in my opinion represents everything we don't like about traditional medicine and he tries to cram it down our throat. Do some reading on this guy please Kathy. The more people that know about him the better.

There are governmental agencies that also have propaganda specialists, and you will find a lot of their Web sites out there to support opposing views. For example, the Web site Quackwatch has been connected to and received funding from the AMA, FTC, and FDA. Mr. Barrett, who runs Quackwatch focuses on *debunking* alternative and natural health care, being sure to always side with modern medical views. http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/s... This website is run by a Dr. Barrett a retired psychiatrist who receives funding form the AMA, FTC, and FDA. It is paid propaganda. The AMA has a financial interest in

not allowing alternative medicine into mainstream medicine by squashing any promising new alternative therapies. Incidentally a Quackwatcher suit was tossed from court so this makes this website a not so credible source of information. http://www.chiroeco.com/news/2005/... We need to wake up and figure out that the FDA does not work for the best interest of Americans but they do work for the best interests of corporations. Big pharma will continue to poison us as long as we let them. This is my opinion. Think of all the drugs that have recently caused death that have had the FDA approval. As long as Big Pharma can make billions they don¢t care about people dying and becoming disabled. Again this is my opinion.

From another member of the site.

Barrett is an industry hack who no longer even has a medical license. On his "Board"? Ron Gots of Dateline infamy - does fake IME's that always favor the insurance companies, and takes fees for testifying against PATIENTS WITH CFS. Has a "non-profit", ESRI, that sells pro-chemical policy to government. (Gots is presently in trouble with a judge over that one.) And that's just the one that comes to mind right now. The people Gots is associated with? all in that same business. One of them, Lees-Haley, invented a neuropsychometric test which "proves" CFS patients are just neurotics. You know how many of us struggle with insurance issues? With finding competent care? With not getting labeled as head cases? Yeah. You get the picture. Any time you want to talk about 'junk science'? Just let me know. Barrett really DOES know a thing or two about quackery...and a few people know a thing or two about

Barrett. Steer clear - NOT a reputable source.

[ ] OT, Young Living is a sham

I need to speak up here about Young Living, Kami, you're getting sucked in.

Young Living is an MLM, meaning, many losing money.

Plus, advertising for your own personal business and profit is very tacky.

Young is a Mormon cad. He uses emotions to sell stuff, loves to bear his testimony to how wonderful his oils are and how they are the only good oils out there.

Plus he lies and exagerates and tells stories of miracles that aren't true. He never cured scoliosis or hearing loss, ok?

If you want to pay far more than an oil is worth, go find a Young Living Distributor.

If you want to read up on Young, here is a great article.

http://www.healthwa tcher.net/ Quackerywatch/ Young-Oils/ totalhealth2004. html

Or you can peruse these links

http://www.quackwat ch.org/11Ind/ young.html

http://www.aromatic sage.com/ bs.htm

http://www.woobeywo rld.com/AA- 4.htm

http://www.aromatic sage.com/ bsb.htm

If you're really interested in essential oils, there is a group I belong to.

http://health. groups.. com/group/ oils_herbs_ etc/

You can meet a lot of people who sell oils there.

Make your own choices.

No more self-advertising, ok?

Thanks, Kami.

Kathy, former Young Living Rep. Live and learn, I say.

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[Guest guest]

I was temporarily interested into your insights about young living

oils and Young, Until you showed Some of your sources as " Quack

watch " . I have used young living oils, They are very good. But there

is probably lots more out there that are cheaper and as good because

of not being affiliated with mlm company's. Quack watch is backed by

big pharma, They have told so many lies, I no longer believe anything

they have to say.If you are really into the quack watch thing, I

suggest your time better spent here...http://www.quackpotwatch.org/

Bob

>

> I need to speak up here about Young Living, Kami, you're getting sucked

> in.

> Young Living is an MLM, meaning, many losing money.

> Plus, advertising for your own personal business and profit is very

> tacky.

>

> Young is a Mormon cad. He uses emotions to sell stuff, loves to

> bear his testimony to how wonderful his oils are and how they are the

> only good oils out there.

> Plus he lies and exagerates and tells stories of miracles that aren't

> true. He never cured scoliosis or hearing loss, ok?

>

> If you want to pay far more than an oil is worth, go find a Young Living

> Distributor.

>

> If you want to read up on Young, here is a great article.

> http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Young-Oils/totalhealth2004.ht

> ml

> Or you can peruse these links

> http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/young.html

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bs.htm

> http://www.woobeyworld.com/AA-4.htm

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bsb.htm

>

> If you're really interested in essential oils, there is a group I

> belong to.

> oils_herbs_etc/

> You can meet a lot of people who sell oils there.

> Make your own choices.

>

> No more self-advertising, ok?

>

> Thanks, Kami.

>

> Kathy, former Young Living Rep. Live and learn, I say.

>

[Guest guest]

I was just putting it out there for the people that wanted a place to

buy PURE OILS.

I am not going to fight about it. To each there own.

Have a good day and Merry Christmas Kathy

Kami

Kathy Wenger wrote:

I need to speak up here about Young Living,

Kami, you're getting sucked in.

Young Living is an MLM, meaning, many losing

money.

Plus, advertising for your own personal

business and profit is very tacky.

Young is a Mormon cad. He uses emotions to

sell stuff, loves to bear his testimony to how wonderful his oils are

and how they are the only good oils out there.

Plus he lies and exagerates and tells stories of

miracles that aren't true. He never cured scoliosis or hearing loss, ok?

If you want to pay far more than an oil is

worth, go find a Young Living Distributor.

If you want to read up on Young, here is a

great article.

http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Young-Oils/totalhealth2004.html

Or you can peruse these links

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/young.html

http://www.aromaticsage.com/bs.htm

http://www.woobeyworld.com/AA-4.htm

http://www.aromaticsage.com/bsb.htm

If you're really interested in essential oils,

there is a group I belong to.

oils_herbs_etc/

You can meet a lot of people who sell oils there.

Make your own choices.

No more self-advertising, ok?

Thanks, Kami.

Kathy, former Young Living Rep. Live and learn,

I say.

[Guest guest]

Kami,

there is always two sides to a story. I am sure that Kathy is not

being biased, she is speaking from her experiance. I have never tried

to sell the oils I have just went on the website and purchased ones

for my own personal use. Kathy is right they are very expensive. I

however love them, but I am inexperianced in the matters of oils.

I cannot deal with any perfumes in any household products yet I dont

have a problem at all with Yong oils shich lead me to belive that

they are real. I use the several of them for medicinal purposes. My

favorite is the Calms it is very peacefull and has helped me sleep on

many occasions. But as I said, they are expensive and I am not an

expert.

I have to admitt I never looked on the Quack alert web page at Youngs

because I also found MMS and Jim H. there. I did not read about him

there either.

S

>

> I need to speak up here about Young Living, Kami, you're getting

sucked

> in.

> Young Living is an MLM, meaning, many losing money.

> Plus, advertising for your own personal business and profit is very

> tacky.

>

> Young is a Mormon cad. He uses emotions to sell stuff, loves to

> bear his testimony to how wonderful his oils are and how they are

the

> only good oils out there.

> Plus he lies and exagerates and tells stories of miracles that

aren't

> true. He never cured scoliosis or hearing loss, ok?

>

> If you want to pay far more than an oil is worth, go find a Young

Living

> Distributor.

>

> If you want to read up on Young, here is a great article.

> http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Young-

Oils/totalhealth2004.ht

> ml

> Or you can peruse these links

> http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/young.html

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bs.htm

> http://www.woobeyworld.com/AA-4.htm

> http://www.aromaticsage.com/bsb.htm

>

> If you're really interested in essential oils, there is a

group I

> belong to.

> oils_herbs_etc/

> You can meet a lot of people who sell oils there.

> Make your own choices.

>

> No more self-advertising, ok?

>

> Thanks, Kami.

>

> Kathy, former Young Living Rep. Live and learn, I say.

>