Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Angel, You are an inspiration to me. Please keep us posted about your progress. Best regards, Sharon [ ] My experience Hello everyone, and happy "Black Friday". (I don't know why it's called that ... just that stores open around 4 am for mass hysteria's of shopping. Which sounds pretty black. LOL! ) But the sun is out today and it's beautiful if cold here in the Pacific Northwest USA.Yesterday I took small doses of MMS from 8 am to 8 pm .... about 1-1/2 hours apart or so, 17 drops in 9 doses: no dose larger than 2 drops. I stopped taking paradophilous because I wanted to see how it felt to take MMS alone.I never got to nausea or "the runs". I did feel tired, dizzy, "negative and flat". Lacking in affect. It would/will be hard to keep this up.Today I started at 3 drops. I alternate citric acid and lemon juice as activators. It sounds to me like Jim thinks the citric acid makes a stronger dose. Today I'm taking paradophilous along with it.I'm taking MMS for cancer. I read and reread the book. The last thing Jim says about cancer is that those not getting the results they want aren't taking enough. Then of course he recommends Indian Herb. Since that causes nausea and reactions too, I'm not ready to start that yet. I do have cesium which just arrived, but don't know about taking it with MMS ... .well actually think it's not a good idea, given differences in ph needs especially.My urine and saliva pH taking mms has gotten low -- well into the acidic range. The purpose of course of cesium is to raise the pH to at least 8. It seems things that counter low ph ... for instance taking baking soda ... can stop the action of mms. I've even stopped my coral calcium to make sure that doesn't interfere.My other question, which may be and probably is retorical, since I don't know that anyone can answer it, is that cancer is in my lymph system, and I don't know if mms can go there. Jim says it can ANYWHERE BLOOD GOES. But blood doesn't go to the lymph system. Does anyone have ideas how to get it in there? Or what else might help?I appreicate this list. AND, I am specifically here to discuss my experience with mms and find out what others are experiencing. So many posts are not on-topic, which is a lot to "plow through" to get to mms information. This was supposed to be the "focused" list. Smile.But now that I've talked about mms, I want to tack something else on here. Last week I went to two places, a cemetery to make "arrangements" and then right to a tanning parlor to tan. The differences in the atmospheres and how they made me feel was impressive. There were experiments done (by Depak Chopra) where older people were put in environments that reminded them of their youth for 2 weeks. All their body systems improved and became 'younger". That was really brought home to me last week. The "upbeat" music and glow at the tanning parlor (whether you believe in tanning or not) was so young and lively.Before I was diagnosed with cancer I did home health care. Hung out with sick and 'down" people. I' want to hang out in places more filled with life force.Blessings to all!Angel Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Vilik, You would gain much helpful info by investigating this group blacksalveandpetswithcancer/ They only deal with what works, not what rumor says works, I think you would be interested in the tonic that's been devised. BTW, good to hear from you again. It's been way back on Jim Lambert's list. Chuck I planted some bird seed. A bird grew. Now I don't know what to feed it. On 11/23/2007 2:49:10 PM, Vilik Rapheles (vilik@...) wrote: > Hello everyone, and happy " Black Friday " . (I don't know why it's > called that ... just that stores open around 4 am for mass > hysteria's > of shopping. Which sounds pretty black. LOL! ) But the sun is out > today and it's > beautiful if cold here in the Pacific Northwest USA. > > Yesterday I took small doses of MMS from 8 am to 8 pm .... about > 1-1/2 hours apart or so, 17 drops in 9 doses: no dose larger than 2 > drops. I stopped taking paradophilous because I wanted to see how it > felt to take MMS alone. > > I never got to nausea or " the runs " . I did feel tired, dizzy, > " negative and flat " . Lacking in affect. It would/will be hard to keep this > up. > > Today I started at 3 drops. I alternate citric acid and lemon juice > as activators. It sounds to me like Jim thinks the citric acid makes > a stronger dose. Today I'm taking paradophilous along with it. > > I'm > taking MMS for cancer. I read and reread the book. The last thing > Jim says about cancer is that those not getting the results they want > aren't taking enough. Then of course he recommends Indian Herb. Since > that causes nausea and reactions too, I'm > not ready to start that > yet. I d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Black Friday - the stores that are in the red, come out of the red from all the sales and are in the black. Black would be a profit or positive balance; red a negative or in the whole, a minus balance. In Christ, Ava > > Hello everyone, and happy " Black Friday " . (I don't know why it's > called that ... just that stores open around 4 am for mass hysteria's > of shopping. Which sounds pretty black. LOL! ) But the sun is out > today and it's beautiful if cold here in the Pacific Northwest USA. > > Yesterday I took small doses of MMS from 8 am to 8 pm .... about > 1-1/2 hours apart or so, 17 drops in 9 doses: no dose larger than 2 > drops. I stopped taking paradophilous because I wanted to see how it > felt to take MMS alone. > > I never got to nausea or " the runs " . I did feel tired, dizzy, > " negative and flat " . Lacking in affect. It would/will be hard to keep this up. > > Today I started at 3 drops. I alternate citric acid and lemon juice > as activators. It sounds to me like Jim thinks the citric acid makes > a stronger dose. Today I'm taking paradophilous along with it. > > I'm taking MMS for cancer. I read and reread the book. The last thing > Jim says about cancer is that those not getting the results they want > aren't taking enough. Then of course he recommends Indian Herb. Since > that causes nausea and reactions too, I'm not ready to start that > yet. I do have cesium which just arrived, but don't know about taking > it with MMS ... .well actually think it's not a good idea, given > differences in ph needs especially. > > My urine and saliva pH taking mms has gotten low -- well into the > acidic range. The purpose of course of cesium is to raise the pH to > at least 8. It seems things that counter low ph ... for instance > taking baking soda ... can stop the action of mms. I've even stopped > my coral calcium to make sure that doesn't interfere. > > My other question, which may be and probably is retorical, since I > don't know that anyone can answer it, is that cancer is in my lymph > system, and I don't know if mms can go there. Jim says it can > ANYWHERE BLOOD GOES. But blood doesn't go to the lymph system. Does > anyone have ideas how to get it in there? Or what else might help? > > I appreicate this list. AND, I am specifically here to discuss my > experience with mms and find out what others are experiencing. So > many posts are not on-topic, which is a lot to " plow through " to get > to mms information. This was supposed to be the " focused " list. Smile. > > But now that I've talked about mms, I want to tack something else on > here. Last week I went to two places, a cemetery to make > " arrangements " and then right to a tanning parlor to tan. The > differences in the atmospheres and how they made me feel was > impressive. There were experiments done (by Depak Chopra) where older > people were put in environments that reminded them of their youth for > 2 weeks. All their body systems improved and became 'younger " . That > was really brought home to me last week. The " upbeat " music and glow > at the tanning parlor (whether you believe in tanning or not) was so > young and lively. > > Before I was diagnosed with cancer I did home health care. Hung out > with sick and 'down " people. I' want to hang out in places more > filled with life force. > > Blessings to all! > > Angel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Have you thought about taking the cesium with DMSO. Put a couple of tablets, open a couple of capsules and place in with about 2 ounces of DMSO. Let dissolve for a few days unless it was powder in a capsule or powder that you are to mix with fluid prior to taking then let stand a day. Rub a little solution onto your skin, when your PH is low. I read online, and then in the book DMSO Nature's Healer (I believe the book too, I'd have to look it up). How you can take b-12, folic acid, and multi vitamins this way. Most find that they only need to apply this solution once a month or once every two weeks. > > My urine and saliva pH taking mms has gotten low -- well into the > acidic range. The purpose of course of cesium is to raise the pH to > at least 8. It seems things that counter low ph ... for instance > taking baking soda ... can stop the action of mms. I've even stopped > my coral calcium to make sure that doesn't interfere. > > My other question, which may be and probably is retorical, since I > don't know that anyone can answer it, is that cancer is in my lymph > system, and I don't know if mms can go there. Jim says it can > ANYWHERE BLOOD GOES. But blood doesn't go to the lymph system. Does > anyone have ideas how to get it in there? Or what else might help? > Try the DMSO again while you are taking the MMS. In Christ, Ava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 The body has 3 main kinds of fluids: blood, tissue fluid, and lymph. The blood is the source of these fluids and they return to the blood circulatory system. The blood consists of the blood cells and platelets, the plasma or fluid portion, and a variety of chemical substances dissolved in the plasma. When the plasma, without its solid particles and some of its dissolved substances, seeps through the capillary walls and circulates among the body tissues, it is known as tissue fluid. When this fluid is drained from the tissues and collected by the lymphatic system, it is called lymph. The lymphatic system eventually returns the lymph to the blood, where it again becomes plasma. For good performance of the circulatory system ensure you are always well hydrated. I can't imagine why the MMS cannot get through to most everywhere in the body. Phil [ ] My experience Hello everyone, and happy ... My other question, which may be and probably is retorical, since I don't know that anyone can answer it, is that cancer is in my lymph system, and I don't know if mms can go there. Jim says it can ANYWHERE BLOOD GOES. But blood doesn't go to the lymph system. Does anyone have ideas how to get it in there? Or what else might help? Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Hi group, My husband has lymphoma and early AD...Does anyone know if MMS will help these conditions? I am desperate to help him. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 If that is a cancer then it sure should. I have Lyme and internal MRSA and it will help those. Halalujah S > > Hi group, > > My husband has lymphoma and early AD...Does anyone know if MMS will help these conditions? I am desperate to help him. > > Jeanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 ....maybe before it ever gets through all that getting there it get used up reacting with stuff along the way or just breaking down on it's own. that's why in another post i suggested a little bit might make it to the lymph system over time. now i'm guessing that maybe to get a sufficient amount in there to treat lymphatic cancers you have to work up to large doses taken many times per day??? so a mag pulser might be a better option, or at least a good corollary. > -----Original Message----- I can't imagine why the MMS cannot get through to most > everywhere > in the body. > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 i suspect the MMS will get into the lymph system a bit over time at least, but really have no idea how that all might work. good question. to get at the cancers in the lymphatic system i'd get a mag pulser and a map of the lymph system and pulse the hell out of all of it daily. there's lots of anecdotal/testimonial " evidence " in favor of mag pulsers helping against cancers generally, and the magnetic fields go right through everything in the body that isn't ferrous metal. > [ ] My experience > > > Hello everyone, and happy " Black Friday " . (I don't know why it's > called that ... just that stores open around 4 am for mass hysteria's > of shopping. Which sounds pretty black. LOL! ) But the sun is out > today and it's beautiful if cold here in the Pacific Northwest USA. > > Yesterday I took small doses of MMS from 8 am to 8 pm .... about > 1-1/2 hours apart or so, 17 drops in 9 doses: no dose larger than 2 > drops. I stopped taking paradophilous because I wanted to see how it > felt to take MMS alone. > > I never got to nausea or " the runs " . I did feel tired, dizzy, > " negative and flat " . Lacking in affect. It would/will be hard to > keep this up. > > Today I started at 3 drops. I alternate citric acid and lemon juice > as activators. It sounds to me like Jim thinks the citric acid makes > a stronger dose. Today I'm taking paradophilous along with it. > > I'm taking MMS for cancer. I read and reread the book. The last thing > Jim says about cancer is that those not getting the results they want > aren't taking enough. Then of course he recommends Indian Herb. Since > that causes nausea and reactions too, I'm not ready to start that > yet. I do have cesium which just arrived, but don't know about taking > it with MMS ... .well actually think it's not a good idea, given > differences in ph needs especially. > > My urine and saliva pH taking mms has gotten low -- well into the > acidic range. The purpose of course of cesium is to raise the pH to > at least 8. It seems things that counter low ph ... for instance > taking baking soda ... can stop the action of mms. I've even stopped > my coral calcium to make sure that doesn't interfere. > > My other question, which may be and probably is retorical, since I > don't know that anyone can answer it, is that cancer is in my lymph > system, and I don't know if mms can go there. Jim says it can > ANYWHERE BLOOD GOES. But blood doesn't go to the lymph system. Does > anyone have ideas how to get it in there? Or what else might help? > > I appreicate this list. AND, I am specifically here to discuss my > experience with mms and find out what others are experiencing. So > many posts are not on-topic, which is a lot to " plow through " to get > to mms information. This was supposed to be the " focused " list. Smile. > > But now that I've talked about mms, I want to tack something else on > here. Last week I went to two places, a cemetery to make > " arrangements " and then right to a tanning parlor to tan. The > differences in the atmospheres and how they made me feel was > impressive. There were experiments done (by Depak Chopra) where older > people were put in environments that reminded them of their youth for > 2 weeks. All their body systems improved and became 'younger " . That > was really brought home to me last week. The " upbeat " music and glow > at the tanning parlor (whether you believe in tanning or not) was so > young and lively. > > Before I was diagnosed with cancer I did home health care. Hung out > with sick and 'down " people. I' want to hang out in places more > filled with life force. > > Blessings to all! > > Angel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Yes Bob. Some will be used up so only a little MMS may be left to target the problem you're concerned about. Do recall that MMS is thought to promote the immune systems (IS) efforts. I believe the IS can be prompted by your intent/desire to attend to your problem but then there is the matter of supplying the nutrients that the IS will need. I think that if you were to make some green juice from freshly harvested wheat or barley grass, edible green leaves of garden plants. Extract it with a blender in a vitamin C solution, and strain out the solids in a cloth. Drink it while still very fresh but " chew " it thoroughly as you do so. Don't have other foods from refined or processed sources then (this saves your body from having to sort out damaged nutrient components). The green juice contains everything that the plant requires for it's own grown. This is, I've found, great for getting the best from the immune system. The MMS and IS do destroy pathogens, but we need to recall Hulda 's work and her finding that as you kill a pathogen you often have a release of pathogens carried by the one just destroyed. This is why Hulda advises you when using a zapper to use the zapper again 20 minutes later (indeed 2 times in all). Jim Humble says to go slow too. I made the mistake of having the MMS too much and too quickly. When I shortly restart I am going to take it slowly (- I just hope I actually keep to that!). Do keep yourself well hydrated. If you begin to feel " off " maybe you should drink some more water? Phil bob Larson wrote - RE: [ ] My experience ....maybe before it ever gets through all that getting there it get used up reacting with stuff along the way or just breaking down on it's own. that's why in another post i suggested a little bit might make it to the lymph system over time. now i'm guessing that maybe to get a sufficient amount in there to treat lymphatic cancers you have to work up to large doses taken many times per day??? so a mag pulser might be a better option, or at least a good corollary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi , You're right it is Alzheimer's...I hate saying it so I just use the initials. Has anyone at all been helped for this condition by using MMS? I will probably try it because I've tried everything else. What exactly is it and where do I get it? thanks for the support. If this is off topic, please email me privately. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Sharon. Husband had all his amalgams removed several months ago and then did a detox, so I think he's ok in that area. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Hi Jeanne, I was just listening to an interview with Jim H. and he was talking about Alzheimer's. Jim said that not a lot of people have used it for this disease so there is not a lot of data. He said that these patients have a high spirochete count in their brains and a high metal level like a Lyme patient. Because MMS does oxidize both of these he feels that this can be eradicated, but like Lyme it can take a much longer time (Lyme can take a year). S > > Hi , > > You're right it is Alzheimer's...I hate saying it so I just use the initials. Has anyone at all been helped for this condition by using MMS? I will probably try it because I've tried everything else. What exactly is it and where do I get it? > > thanks for the support. If this is off topic, please email me privately. > > Jeanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Hi Tess.     I so enjoyed your post today. Your Aunt sounds so wonderful. RA treatments have come a long way, thank goodness. I know what your Aunt was dealing with each day. I had a great-aunt who was totally crippled with RA. As her condition got worse, she could not longer come to my house for all the holidays. Getting into my Grandfathers car was too hard for her. From then on we went to their house in Boston for every holiday. She lived to be 88 but very rarely left the house. She was a very sweet, special lady.      I am happy that the RA meds. you take are doing so good for you. Now you have a life. I know how tired we do get, but it is a small price to pay to have our RA under control and in a medicine induced remission. I am very thankful for that.      Glad to see you psoting today. I hope your RA meds. keep working so well for you.  Hugs,  Barbara From: mercycove@... <mercycove@...> Subject: [ ] My experience Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 3:54 PM  Hi All...I was diagnosed with RA and PsA after years of other dx including lupus and mixed connective tissue disease. I have been on many treatments from old to new. When my rheumatologist encouraged me to try the biologics, I was scared of side-effects. But I was so sick, in pain, and troubled mobility, and with a sed rate over 100 and C Reactive Protein way high. Several biologics either just did not work, or stopped working, or I became very sick on them. But we kept trying. Since 2003 I have been on weekly injections of methotrexate and Humira. 75% of the time I feel good with fatigue being the most difficult to deal with. For me, any potential risk of adverse side-effects did not measure up to feeling like a functioning person most of the time again. My beloved Aunt June had RA for 40+ years We were diagnosed at the same age (39). The damage to her hands and feet from RA was devastating. All she had for treatments most of her life were gold shots and anti-inflammatories. I often wonder how much better her life would had been if she had had the treatments we now have. She was a great lady who handled things with much grace, but she had so much pain and crippling. At age 80 or so she developed nodules in her lung. Two years later she had surgery for lung cancer (never smoked). She died at age 83. She was brave and tenacious and how I wish she had been blessed with better treatment. I know I don't speak up much here (not like I did a few years ago : ) but I just wanted to share my experience. Love... Cheryle, in Oregon...aka Tess [ ] RESEARCH - Prompt aggressive treatment improves outcomes in RA  Medscape Medical News August 26, 2010 Prompt aggressive treatment improves outcomes in RA Prompt aggressive treatment is the strongest predictor of remission in patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA), regardless of the presence of poor prognostic factors, according to a new study published in the August issue of Arthritis Care & Research. " In the past, the treatment of RA aimed at a reduction of disease activity to a low disease activity state due to a lack of effective treatment, " write Wanruchaa Katchamart, MD, from the University of Toronto, Canada, and colleagues. " With the advent of biologic agents, the ultimate goal of treatment in RA is now remission in the early stage of the disease before patients develop permanent deformities, functional disability and RA-related systemic morbidity and mortality. " According to the article, biologic agents can suppress inflammation and halt radiographic progression, but they also can cause adverse effects that lead to discontinuation of the medication. In addition, they are costly. Therefore, being able to identify factors that predict remission early in the disease would help physicians tailor their treatment plans to individual patients. The aim of this study was to summarize the potential predictors of remission in RA patients. The researchers reviewed 18 prognostic studies that used multivariate analysis to identify predictors of remission. They found a number of independent predictors of remission, including baseline clinical and laboratory characteristics and genetic markers, as follows: • Male sex • Young age • Late-onset RA (occurring past the age of 65 years) • Short disease duration • Nonsmoker • Low baseline disease activity • Mild functional impairment • Low baseline radiographic damage • Absence of rheumatoid factor and anticitrullinated peptide • Low serum level of acute-phase reactant, interleukin 2, and receptor activator of nuclear factor κ B ligand (RANKL) at baseline • MTHFR 677T alleles and 1298C alleles in the methotrexate-treated patients • Magnetization transfer ratio 2756A allele ± either the SLC 19A180A allele or the TYMS 3R-del6 haplotype in the methotrexate plus sulfasalazine combination-treated patients • Early treatment with nonbiologic disease-modifying antirheumatic drug (DMARD) combinations • The use of anti–tumor necrosis factor (anti-TNF) • The concurrent use of DMARDs in the anti-TNF-treated patients • Moderate or good response to treatments at the first 6 months " Although all of the studies included in this review investigated an independent association using multivariate analysis, the hypotheses of these studies were usually based on the unreal assumption that the association between the prognostic factors and RA remission is direct and isolated, " the study authors write. " This model may be inadequate to explicitly describe the complex relationship between prognostic factors and remission for multifactorial and unclear mechanisms of a disease condition like RA. " These relationships need to be explored further in phase 3 trials to better understand the complex prognostic pathways or processes of RA, the authors conclude. One author was supported by a Canadian Institutes of Health Research Clinician Scientist Award; another holds a Canada Research Chair in Knowledge Transfer for Musculoskeletal Care and has received consultant fees, speaking fees, and/or honoraria from Schering, Roche, Biogen Idec, PESI Healthcare, Wyeth, Abbott, and Abbott Canada. Arthritis Care Res. 2010;62:1128-1143. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/727525 Not an MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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