Re: Doggie warts

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I might try 3% or 6% hydrogen peroxide applied directly, with a q-tip, instead. Cansema would also work.

--G.

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Hi everyone,I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart (not parvo). The wart is very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had one removed by the vet earlier in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up very close to her eyelid. It is very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch it and then it bleeds which causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I need some advice. Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her internally? She is a picky eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this nasty tasting stuff. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,

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>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart

(not parvo). Any

> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

I don't know if it would work on this type of wart but we get warts

on our horses around their muzzle and we use Caster Oil on them and

they are gone fairly quickly. We just rub it on.

Dianne

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Personally I would not use Cansema that close to the eye. You will be surprised at how animals will eat food laced with MMS. Just take your dogs favorite treat and mix the AMMS in. For my cats tuna is a big treat, so I mix the MMS and acid, let it sit the 3 minutes, and then don't add any water--just mix that right into the tuna. Have not had one turn it down yet. For my old dog he likes raw hamburger, or cottage cheese. He gets his AMMS (minus water) in that--gulps it all down.

It will probably take a long time to get the wart to leave from taking MMS internally though. Perhaps there will be more recommendations for putting something on externally. I don't know of any way to kill warts externally other than putting duct tape on them--but that's not usually for this type of wart anyway. Most people that get cysts around the eyes can use hot compresses, but that wouldn't work good with a dog. Sorry.

Samala,

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I might try 3% or 6% hydrogen peroxide applied directly, with a q-tip, instead. Cansema would also work.

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I give both my dogs the MMS. Afer I activate it I use beef broth to dilute

then I put it in one of those injector things for poultry. They come with a

needle attached. You take off the needle part, suck up the the AMMS and

beef broth with the flavor injector and slowly inject it into the mouth

holding their head still. You may need someone to help you hold his head.

I put it on the side of his mouth as close to the back as possible so it

goes right down his throat. My dogs actually like it. They come looking

for their medicine at night. But they are small so for the both of them I

only use 5 drops. If your dog is big, though, you could just add more

broth to the mix.

Let me know how that works out for you.

S.

-- [ ] Doggie warts

Hi everyone,

I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart (not

parvo). The wart is

very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had one

removed by the vet earlier

in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up very close

to her eyelid. It is

very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch it and

then it bleeds which

causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I need

some advice.

Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her

internally? She is a picky

eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this nasty

tasting stuff. Any

suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Why not apply the mms directly on the wart? in NC Tovell <rbdc@...> wrote: I might try 3% or 6% hydrogen peroxide applied directly, with a q-tip, instead. Cansema would also work. --G. [sPAM][ ] Doggie warts Hi everyone,I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart (not parvo). The wart is very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had one removed by the vet earlier in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up very close to her eyelid. It is very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch it and then it bleeds which

causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I need some advice. Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her internally? She is a picky eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this nasty tasting stuff. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks, Wilkins

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If you do this, be sure to rinse it off within 1 minute. I think the castor oil suggestion is probably the best. Castor oil is healing, has been used successfully on warts, and if it gets into the dog's eye--no big deal.

Samala,

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Why not apply the mms directly on the wart?

in NC

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The only way to get rid of the recurring aspect of the wart is to kill the virus. If you give it internally in the dogs food then the MMS will work on the virus from the inside out.I have no clue how long it will take to get rid of the wart. A 2 pronged approach would probably work fastest. Put the MMS directly on the wart for 60 seconds then wassh it off. IN NCsueblanton <sueblanton@...> wrote: Hi everyone,I have a very old labrador retriever

who has a big pavo virus wart (not parvo). The wart is very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had one removed by the vet earlier in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up very close to her eyelid. It is very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch it and then it bleeds which causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I need some advice. Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her internally? She is a picky eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this nasty tasting stuff. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks, Wilkins

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>

> Personally I would not use Cansema that close to the eye. You will be

> surprised at how animals will eat food laced with MMS. Just take >

Samala,

>

>

> Samala I am not trying to argue just passing this on from my

own experience.

I have to disagree about this statement about using Black salve close

to the eye.From my experience it is fine to use that close to the eye.

I have had to do it several times and had it directly on my eyeball.

The reason was tumors on my eyelid and in the corner of my eye.

Getting the black salve in your eye feels like you have spent too much

time in the swimming pool and your eyes burn from the chlorine. Your

eye will turn red and be uncomfortable. It did no damage to my eye. The

irritation clears in a day and the black salve will have had time to

work on the problem spot.

Of course every one has to use their own judgement. I had no choice

with the tumors on my eye lid and in the corner of my eye. They had to

be removed. To be honest it freaked me out to do it but it did no

damage to my eye. Raised heck with the tumors. :^)

Maggie

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Hi -

Someone in the DMSO group uses a

combination of colloidal silver and DMSO to remove warts and skin tags. That

would probably be safer and more effective than MMS, especially so close to the

eye. If you would like, I’ll look up the message and send you the exact “recipe.”

Best,

Dana

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I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart (not parvo).

The wart is

very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had one removed

by the vet earlier

in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up very close to

her eyelid. It is

very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch it and then

it bleeds which

causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I need some

advice.

Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her internally?

She is a picky

eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this nasty tasting

stuff. Any

suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Well, it's good to know of your personal experience. Thanks. I have never used black salve, but know that it can eat rather large holes in the skin if there is cancer, which is why I had advised against using it so close to the eye. I think I would still be hesitant. Not because of it getting in the eye itself--as you say there was no damage, and if there's no cancer then black salve is just a neutral cream. But if there was cancer in the cyst or tumor on the eyelid I would have thought it might just eat away too large a portion and do eye sight damage that way.

Samala,

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Samala I am not trying to argue just passing this on from my

own experience.

I have to disagree about this statement about using Black salve close

to the eye.From my experience it is fine to use that close to the eye.

I have had to do it several times and had it directly on my eyeball.

The reason was tumors on my eyelid and in the corner of my eye.

Getting the black salve in your eye feels like you have spent too much

time in the swimming pool and your eyes burn from the chlorine. Your

eye will turn red and be uncomfortable. It did no damage to my eye. The

irritation clears in a day and the black salve will have had time to

work on the problem spot.

Of course every one has to use their own judgement. I had no choice

with the tumors on my eye lid and in the corner of my eye. They had to

be removed. To be honest it freaked me out to do it but it did no

damage to my eye. Raised heck with the tumors. :^)

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Wilkins wrote:

The only way to get rid of the recurring aspect of the wart is

to kill the virus. If you give it internally in the dogs food then the

MMS will work on the virus from the inside out.I have no clue how long

it will take to get rid of the wart. A 2 pronged approach would

probably work fastest. Put the MMS directly on the wart for 60 seconds

then wassh it off.

Activated or straight?

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I would use activated although a good friend of mine used it strait on his toenail fungus. Within a week he claims it is 90% clear with nice pink skin around the nail, deep roots seem gone ( he would have to trim his toenails with a horse hoof clipper because of the infection). But Jim Humble uses activated when he recommends using it externally. IN NCCase <chris@...> wrote: Wilkins wrote: The only way to get rid of the recurring aspect of the wart is to kill the virus. If you give it internally in the dogs food then the MMS will work on the virus from the inside out.I have no clue how long it will take to get rid of the wart. A 2 pronged approach would probably work fastest. Put the MMS directly on the wart for 60 seconds then wassh it off.Activated or straight? Wilkins

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>

> Well, it's good to know of your personal experience. Thanks. I

have never

> used black salve, but know that it can eat rather large holes in

the skin if

> there is cancer, which is why I had advised against using it so

close to the

> eye. I think I would still be hesitant. Not because of it getting

in the

> eye itself--as you say there was no damage, and if there's no

cancer then

> black salve is just a neutral cream. But if there was cancer in

the cyst or

> tumor on the eyelid I would have thought it might just eat away too

large a

> portion and do eye sight damage that way.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

Considering the doctors removed my eye lid half way down into my

cheek and then had to rebuild it with skin grafts and five more

surgeries............ I really had no choice. It was let the cancer

keep growing up in front of my eye on the lid or spend thousands to

let the doctors try to remove it again and have it grow back. I was

so discouraged with their work. They also told me the same about my

nose. It had to be CUT OFF and rebuilt. So what did I have to loose

by trying the black salve. Yep it left a huge hole until it healed

and now you can just barely see where the spot was. I can feel a dent

under the scar is all. Nothing that concerns me.

The thing with black salve is when the problem is gone the tissues

that were damaged by the bad spots grow back really nicely. I do have

a terrible scar on my arm and the scars on my chest from the last

tumors are still visible and fading fast. There is a slight dent in

my forehead where the last tumor was just removed. I can feel it with

my finger but it is very hard to see other than there is a slight red

around the area and the tumor just came out a week ago or less.

I still say everyone has to make their own decisions on what they

feel they can handle and the chances they want to take. Really I am

not disagreeing with you.Black salve handled improperly is dangerous.

I am not saying this is what someone else should do. Just saying how

it is and has happened with me. I have no medical insurance and do

not think I would trust my cancers to a doctor even if I did have

insurance.

Maggie

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Hi Maggie. I was just talking to a guy that said "thank god we don't have health insurance, because going to the doctors for this would have killed me".

I'm very sorry you have had so many tumors. That must be hard and scary to deal with. So it's a really good thing to know about your experience. Thanks for sharing.

Did the black salve eat away the eyelid? I would think that after the skin graft that would have been hard for skin to grow back and fill in. I've had a skin graft and that part of my skin never looked normal and always seemed a bit "thin" to me. Course that could have been because when they removed my breast and put the graft on, there was no padding under the graft--just went right to the rib cage. But it was never the same color as surrounding tissue, and it felt thinner than other skin.

Yes, when we have nothing to loose we will try anything--and sometimes this leads to a great discovery. You have proved this. Thank you.

Samala,

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I still say everyone has to make their own decisions on what they

feel they can handle and the chances they want to take. Really I am

not disagreeing with you.Black salve handled improperly is dangerous.

I am not saying this is what someone else should do. Just saying how

it is and has happened with me. I have no medical insurance and do

not think I would trust my cancers to a doctor even if I did have

insurance.

[Guest guest]

I hope I'm not being repetitious, bc I didn't read all the threads on

this one. I too have an old lab who has so many health problems. The

one thing to remember is that when treating our pets they too detox.

So you need to make sure he/she gets lots of water and one good way to

do that is to add broth to the water. Just my thoughts. HTH

DHC

[Guest guest]

That is what I have read to do also (before dilution) but with it

that close to the eye you would need to rinse it off because if left

in the eye it will burn the eye according to Jim H.

S

> I might try 3% or 6% hydrogen peroxide applied

directly, with a q-tip, instead. Cansema would also work.

> --G.

>

> [sPAM][ ] Doggie warts

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have a very old labrador retriever who has a big pavo virus wart

(not parvo). The wart is

> very big and cauliflower like. It is right next to her eye. I had

one removed by the vet earlier

> in the year off of her forhead and then this new one cropped up

very close to her eyelid. It is

> very big and I am afraid it bothers her as I have seen her scratch

it and then it bleeds which

> causes the wart to grow. I am thinking of trying some MMS on her. I

need some advice.

> Should I try using the MMS directly on the wart? Should I dose her

internally? She is a picky

> eater and I'm not sure how I would get her to eat or drink this

nasty tasting stuff. Any

> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Wilkins

> http//:www.juiceplus.com/+lw55887

> The Children's Research Foundation Children 6-15 FREE for 3 years

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

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Hi ,

Thanks for your response. Yes I read that in Jim's

book about the eye. I am just wondering if it will

still be as effective if I rinse it off. These warts

seem pretty aggressive. I'm wondering if I could just

apply a very small amount directly to the wart with a

Qtip and leave it on? What do you think?

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MMS is a high ph of 13. I wouldn't take the chance of hurting the dog. If you feel like it might not work because you've rinsed it off, try putting it on many times a day. I guess I'm a bit more cautious about external use than some. On the other list one person sprays it on his back and leaves it on without any trouble--but another person had a very bad reaction by applying it externally and leaving it. Granted, dogs seem to be much tougher than people :-) But I'd feel awful if I did that and hurt my dog. But--if you feel brave and want to experiment, please tell us your results.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Thanks for your response. Yes I read that in Jim's

book about the eye. I am just wondering if it will

still be as effective if I rinse it off. These warts

seem pretty aggressive. I'm wondering if I could just

apply a very small amount directly to the wart with a

Qtip and leave it on? What do you think?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi -

>

> Someone in the DMSO group uses a combination of colloidal silver

and DMSO to

> remove warts and skin tags. That would probably be safer and more

effective

> than MMS, especially so close to the eye. If you would like, I'll

look up

> the message and send you the exact " recipe. "

>

> Best,

>

> Dana

>

& Dana

Since the wart is near the eye I would forgo the DMSO and CS. If I

remember right reading in the book on DMSO it can cause blindness in

dogs (dogs only). I may be wrong and will try and look it up in the

book.

I personally use the DMSO and CS in my eyes and it makes them feel

good and cures any infections.

Dianne

[Guest guest]

>

> Did the black salve eat away the eyelid? I would think that after

the skin

> graft that would have been hard for skin to grow back and fill in.

I've had

> a skin graft and that part of my skin never looked normal and

always seemed

> a bit " thin " to me. Course that could have been because when they

removed

> my breast and put the graft on, there was no padding under the

graft--just

> went right to the rib cage. But it was never the same color as

surrounding

> tissue, and it felt thinner than other skin.

>

> Yes, when we have nothing to loose we will try anything--and

sometimes this

> leads to a great discovery. You have proved this. Thank you.

>

> Samala,

>

Samela ,

Forgive me for not answering sooner. I have had a splitting headache

all day.

The black salve only ate away the tumor. I put it on the top edge of

my eye lid on the tumor. It reacted to the tumor and seemed to run

down through the old scar towards my cheek. This is a basil tumor and

they have deep roots. After it reacted it did the usual draining

swelling an then scabbed. As the scab came off it was healing

underneath. It did no damage to the graft when it was all done. The

tumor was gone and still is. there seems to be a constant annoying

itch to these tumors when they are active.. Not very scientific but a

good alert to a problem.

You can see in my picture my left eye lid. It is fine now. There

looks to be a round spot but I think that is a reflection from my

trifocals. The tumor was closer to my nose on my eyelid.The lid is

still not the right color.

The graft was taken from my other eye lid and from the upper lid on

the tumor side. The doc split the lid with a cheese cutter like

instrument but not all the way through. Then sewed the edge down to

the lower edge of where he removed the eyelid. Then took the outer

skin,like an eye lift, from the other eye and sewed it on top. This

created an inner eyelid and regular outer skin. It was all sewn shut

for about 6 weeks then cut apart. Then more surgeries to bring the

main scar up and reshape my eye opening.

I only had trouble with the cold. The circulation in the graft was

not great for the first 10 years or so. When it got bellow zero the

eye lid got so cold when I blinked it made my eye water because it

was like an ice cube on my eye ball. This made tears on my cheek I

could not feel because of nerve damage from the surgeries. Then the

tears would freeze on my face burning my skin.

My graft is not the same color and there are no eye lashes of course.

It used to get red when I was tired. I do not know why. Now it has

become more a part of me seems more normal but it has been 22 years.

The other eye lid where he got the graft is still thin.

YEP I was scared to do the salve on it for the exact reasons you

state. But the tumor suddenly appeared and was growing fast.The

longer I waited the bigger and harder to get rid of.

There is one thing about black salve. Once you are committed and

touch it to a cancer spot even for a minute or five you are committed

to go the whole course. There is no going back. I have fought down

some pretty nasty tumors and won.

I will say times of stress bring these spots out and make them go

crazy on me. I am doing all I can to avoid stress.

Maggie

[Guest guest]

-Thanks Dana and Dianne,

I would appreciate any help you can offer. I love this dog and would not want

to risk doing

anything that could cause potential injury to her.

Thanks again,

-- In , " darby366 " <darby366@...>

wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Hi -

> >

> > Someone in the DMSO group uses a combination of colloidal silver

> and DMSO to

> > remove warts and skin tags. That would probably be safer and more

> effective

> > than MMS, especially so close to the eye. If you would like, I'll

> look up

> > the message and send you the exact " recipe. "

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

> & Dana

>

> Since the wart is near the eye I would forgo the DMSO and CS. If I

> remember right reading in the book on DMSO it can cause blindness in

> dogs (dogs only). I may be wrong and will try and look it up in the

> book.

>

> I personally use the DMSO and CS in my eyes and it makes them feel

> good and cures any infections.

>

> Dianne

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Maggie. You are a strong and courageous lady. I'm sure the MMS will help you to keep these tumors from starting anymore. Thanks for your explanation--amazing what you have gone through, and so willing to share with us.

Do you do other blood cleansing things besides the MMS, like herbal stuff, to help your body fight this tendency to make cancer tumors?

I too found my skin graft to be colder than the rest of the "real" skin around it, even after 15 years. I finally went in and had breast reconstruction done (don't know why I waited so long--could kick myself now for having waited that long) and they used fat from my belly and belly skin to make the new breast. Now the breast is warm, full body heat, not cold like with the graft. Only thing is, even though the skin is not a graft and has the full layers from the stomach, when I sweat that whole area doesn't sweat! So I look a bit funny--one side of my shirt will be damp from perspiration and the other won't. :-)

Hope you are feeling better now--headache gone and just feeling better all round.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I will say times of stress bring these spots out and make them go

crazy on me. I am doing all I can to avoid stress.

[Guest guest]

Dianne writes:

> Since the wart is near the eye I would forgo the DMSO and CS. If I

> remember right reading in the book on DMSO it can cause blindness in

> dogs (dogs only). I may be wrong and will try and look it up in the

> book.

You may be right or not, I can't say, Dianne. The only thing I remember

reading about DMSO and animals is that one badly contrived study showed

a minor and transient change in the corneas of *rabbits* who were given

huge doses. The study was then used to help justify the FDA's vendetta

against it.

Maybe that will jog somebody's memory?

Be well,

Mike D.

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