Re: Re: MMS is good but...

[Guest guest]

rc3036 wrote:

Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

Thanks for the link, but someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,

without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone to

avoid....

[Guest guest]

Case wrote:

rc3036 wrote:

Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

Thanks for the link, but someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,

without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone to

avoid....

Excuse the premature scepticism. Reading more carefully, I find it

identified, and one can read about it at http://tinyurl.com/yv35n6

[Guest guest]

I’m already trying this – not instead

of MMS though. I’ll let everyone know how I do with it.

Dana

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rc3036

Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

[Guest guest]

Here’s a link to a site I found listing

the ingredients. The “holy thistle” listed is milk thistle.

http://www.fragrance2u.internetbasedfamily.com/catalog/item/3967592/4956521.htm

Dana

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Case

Thanks

for the link, but someone selling a tea they call

Holy Tea,

without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as

someone to avoid....

[Guest guest]

Another MLM. I'm not saying that their product is ... It is the promotional

scheme that I am not enthused about.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [ ] Re: MMS is good but...

> rc3036 wrote:

>>

>>

>> Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

>>

>>

>>

> Thanks for the link, but someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,

> without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone to

> avoid....

>

[Guest guest]

I'll have to check into the Malva leaves (usually this is just another name for marshmallow, but he also then lists marshmallow leaves) to see what they do, but the other herbs are not known for their anti-parasitic, anti-virus, anti-fungus or anti-bacterial uses. They are for cleaning out toxins from the liver, and cleaning the bowels. Not even the strongest herbs at that for what they are doing--except for the milk thistle.

I think this would be good to take ALONG with MMS, but not instead of. They are truly doing two, totally different things.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

It is a great tasting tea that has

been

> used successfully for over 20 years.

> If anyone is interested let me know and I will send

> a link for information.

>

[Guest guest]

Is rc3036 not promoting his ( Carswell) multi-level-marketing

Ponzi scheme? First he says he knows about a related and comparable

product with fewer side affects, waits to see the level of interest and

then sends a link to a MLM site? Googling the " holy tea " finds lots of

people marketing the product. It may be a good product but no evidence

is offered to compare it to MMS, such a claim is ludicrous.

JD

rc3036 wrote:

>

> >

> > I too would like tithe information as I am collecting information

> on all the

> > different alternatives I can find.

> > Cheers, Doug

> > Re: [ ] MMS is good but...

> >

> Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

> <http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana. Thanks for this link. As anyone can tell from reading these ingredients, this is nothing like MMS at all. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of different herbs that are used as medicinal teas. Many taste nasty--such as chaparral, neem, etc. But they are also much, much stronger than the herbs in this Holy Tea. Chaparral is just about anti-everything, same as MMS--though not as immediate acting as MMS. Personally, I wouldn't give up taking MMS, but would support it by using the Holy Tea, or some of the other teas. The liver herb--milk thistle (in the holy tea) would be a good one to use as it helps the liver to detox and get rid of the pathogens the MMS is killing.

We need to remember to support our bodies. MMS is great at killing, but not so great at supporting. Milk Thistle, red clover, clay, charcoal, minerals, vitamins, cleavers--many of these things help support the body while it tries to get rid of the pathogens.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Here’s a link to a site I found listing the ingredients. The “holy thistle” listed is milk thistle.

http://www.fragrance2u.internetbasedfamily.com/catalog/item/3967592/4956521.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Chris

I don't think your skepticism was premature. The link states (in part)

quite clearly:

" The active compound in Milk thistle is silymarin, a mixture of at least

4 closely related flavonolignans, 60% to 70% of which is a mixture of 2

diastereomers of silybin. Silymarin is typically administered in amount

ranging from 200-500mg per day. Whether or not these dosages are optimal

is not known; no scientific data on which to base effective dosage level

guidelines is available.

Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possible

medical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s, but

the quality of the research has been uneven.^ "

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Thistle#_note-Gaz.C3.A1k>

Silymarin is commonly available as a pill supplement and you don't have

to join a " club " .

Milk thistle (silymarin) seems to benefit mostly the renal system,

hardly the entire body as MMS appears to.

JD

Case wrote:

> Case wrote:

>

>> rc3036 wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Thanks for the link, but someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,

>> without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone

>> to avoid....

>

> Excuse the premature scepticism. Reading more carefully, I find it

> identified, and one can read about it at http://tinyurl.com/yv35n6

>

[Guest guest]

JD Schaefer wrote:

Chris

I don't think your skepticism was premature.

Insofar as the claims made for the tea seem to go way beyond those made

for the thistle alone...

But at least one doesn't have to accept the formula as a channelled

Tibetan secret.....

The link states (in part)

quite clearly:

"The active compound in Milk thistle is silymarin, a mixture of at least

4 closely related flavonolignans, 60% to 70% of which is a mixture of 2

diastereomers of silybin. Silymarin is typically administered in amount

ranging from 200-500mg per day. Whether or not these dosages are optimal

is not known; no scientific data on which to base effective dosage level

guidelines is available.

Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possible

medical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s, but

the quality of the research has been uneven.^"

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Thistle#_note-Gaz.C3.A1k>

Silymarin is commonly available as a pill supplement and you don't have

to join a "club".

Milk thistle (silymarin) seems to benefit mostly the renal system,

hardly the entire body as MMS appears to.

JD

Case wrote:

Case wrote:

rc3036 wrote:

Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell

Thanks for the link, but someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,

without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone

to avoid....

Excuse the premature scepticism. Reading more carefully, I find it

identified, and one can read about it at http://tinyurl.com/yv35n6

[Guest guest]

Don't know as how I'd call it a ponzi scheme. Many good products are MLM distributed, which sadly makes them too expensive for some people. The way he wrote the first message, though, was pretty shabby--because anyone that knows anything about the tea knows it is nothing like MMS--and so after reading what the tea actually is, who would buy it from HIM (because of his lying)? It would be a good support for helping clean the toxins out of the body after taking MMS, though as I stated, there are many teas to do this. Even taking just milk thistle tea by itself would be good. He could have just said it was of a great benefit to him to help clean out his liver and such--instead of stating it the way he did--like it was some miracle product on par with MMS.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Is rc3036 not promoting his ( Carswell) multi-level-marketing

Ponzi scheme? First he says he knows about a related and comparable

product with fewer side affects, waits to see the level of interest and

then sends a link to a MLM site? Googling the "holy tea" finds lots of

people marketing the product. It may be a good product but no evidence

is offered to compare it to MMS, such a claim is ludicrous.

[Guest guest]

Case wrote:

> Insofar as the claims made for the tea seem to go way beyond those

> made for the thistle alone...

> But at least one doesn't have to accept the formula as a channelled

> Tibetan secret.....

> Or have to adjust your aluminum foil hat for better ET reception

> Sigh.

[Guest guest]

Hi -

You’re welcome. A friend told me

about Holy Tea, and I’ve been taking if for a few days. I can’t say

I’ve noticed anything yet other than maybe a teensie improvement in

digestion – not sure though. I had no intention to take HT instead of

MMS. It was just as a help for detoxifying – I have Lyme so need all the

help I can get. I’ll report back on HT if I find it to be useful. They

claim it’s good for weight loss as well, and I could sure use some help

with that.

There are many pages of Holy Tea

testimonials on the Internet. If anyone’s interested I can post them.

Best,

Dana

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Hi Dana. Thanks for this link. As anyone can

tell from reading these ingredients, this is nothing like MMS at all.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of different herbs that are used

as medicinal teas. Many taste nasty--such as chaparral, neem,

etc. But they are also much, much stronger than the herbs in this Holy

Tea. Chaparral is just about anti-everything, same as MMS--though not

as immediate acting as MMS. Personally, I wouldn't give up taking MMS,

but would support it by using the Holy Tea, or some of the other teas.

The liver herb--milk thistle (in the holy tea) would be a good one to use as

it helps the liver to detox and get rid of the pathogens the MMS is

killing.

We need to remember to support our bodies. MMS is

great at killing, but not so great at supporting. Milk Thistle, red

clover, clay, charcoal, minerals, vitamins, cleavers--many of these things

help support the body while it tries to get rid of the pathogens.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Here’s a link to a site I found

listing the ingredients. The “holy thistle” listed is milk

thistle.

http://www.fragrance2u.internetbasedfamily.com/catalog/item/3967592/4956521.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Why dont you provide the info to the group in open forum then we might

all benefit ,rather than sending it out to individuals

Graham

>

> I have been using MMS for about two weeks now, I can take 6 drops

> a day without the usal side effects. A friend just introduced me

to

a

> prododuct that seems to provide a lot of the same benifits of MMS

> without the harsh side effcts. It is a great tasting tea that has

been

> used successfully for over 20 years.

> If anyone is interested let me know and I will send

> a link for information.

>

>

>

I would like to have the link, i would like to check it out.

brenda

[Guest guest]

Bob writes:

> Geeessh

> Maybe you need a cold shower. Some of the best products I have taken

> were distributed through mlms, Or pushed to the fore front by them, So

> you can now shop for them retail.

I don't have anything against MLM or any other businesses in principle.

In fact I'm very much pro-entrepreneurism! But I do not appreciate the

obvious use by Mr. Carswell of the " curiosity approach " to mine this

group for prospective customers, nor his criticism of MMS.

I don't object to a member being " in the business " if their commercial

interests are kept at a lower profile than their other contributions to

the group. Be a good member of the community, first, then maybe harvest

some business on the side. You'd have earned it.

This was drive-by spamming, no more, in my opinion.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]

[mdevour@... ]

[speaking only for myself... ]

[Guest guest]

Graham T. Dilks wrote:

Why dont you provide the info to the group in open forum then we might

all benefit ,rather than sending it out to individuals

Because the message is part of a campaign to find individual customers,

more than to put useful knowledge out there...

Participating in lists such as this is something of a tightrope walk

for those who also are vendors. But let us not be either hypo- or

hyper-critical about it, while not blind to it either.

[Guest guest]

The tea actually sounds like a nice tea, and it says it tastes good. That's a point in its favor because many medicinal herb teas don't. It's a good formula actually--soothing, cleaning out the colon and the liver, a bit of anti-bacterial. Not that I would ever take it for it's anti properties, but would certainly think it would be good for the gentle cleaning properties.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I agree that there is no tea I have ever heard of that can replace

MMS, however if ( and I mean if ) it passes the research test and

does not cost an arm and a leg then, once agian I say why not.

Anything we use will have to be purchased from someone. I guess I

have never really goten caught by a MLM sceem, maby they really are

from the devil.<smile>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

The tea tastes pretty good though a bit

bland – certainly not unpleasant at all. I’m doing so many things

right now – salt/C for Lyme, MMS, “truckloads” of

supplements, the usual, so I can’t say if the Holy Tea is helping. I’m

feeling pretty good today, but it could be MMS or well, you know, the moon or

whatever J. I’m hoping for more energy and

some weight loss – and of course some help for my liver. We’ll see.

.. .

I’ve been very conservative with MMS.

I take my salt/C during the day and MMS at bedtime. I’ve gotten as high

as 9 drops but felt yucky yesterday so backed off to 4 last night.

Best,

Dana

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

The tea actually sounds like a nice tea, and it says it

tastes good. That's a point in its favor because many medicinal herb

teas don't. It's a good formula actually--soothing, cleaning out the

colon and the liver, a bit of anti-bacterial. Not that I would ever

take it for it's anti properties, but would certainly think it would be good

for the gentle cleaning properties.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

I take Milk Thistle it's part of my MD prescribed protocol.JD Schaefer <jdrows@...> wrote: ChrisI don't think your skepticism was premature. The link states (in part)quite clearly:"The active compound in Milk thistle is silymarin, a mixture of at least4 closely related flavonolignans, 60% to 70% of which is a mixture of 2diastereomers of silybin. Silymarin is typically administered in amountranging from 200-500mg per day. Whether or not these dosages are optimalis not known; no scientific data on which to base

effective dosage levelguidelines is available.Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possiblemedical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s, butthe quality of the research has been uneven.^"<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Thistle#_note-Gaz.C3.A1k>Silymarin is commonly available as a pill supplement and you don't haveto join a "club".Milk thistle (silymarin) seems to benefit mostly the renal system,hardly the entire body as MMS appears to.JDCase wrote:> Case wrote:>>> rc3036 wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>Go to: http://www.holyteaclub.com/abwell>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the link, but

someone selling a tea they call Holy Tea,>> without revealing what plant it is made from, strikes me as someone>> to avoid....>> Excuse the premature scepticism. Reading more carefully, I find it> identified, and one can read about it at http://tinyurl.com/yv35n6> i

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[Guest guest]

Hey Dana. It's hard to actually know what does what when you do so many things at once, but if I'm sick I figure what the heck and throw everything at it. :-) I don't care what actually works--I use all that I think will work and figure perhaps together they will work even better.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I’ve been very conservative with MMS. I take my salt/C during the day and MMS at bedtime. I’ve gotten as high as 9 drops but felt yucky yesterday so backed off to 4 last night.

Best,

[Guest guest]

Trivita is MLM?????? I order directly from them for my Dad's stuff. No go between, no mention of MLM, no trying to recruit me, no points, no nothing. What makes you say Trivita is MLM?

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

The only B-12 I have personally taken that made a difference for

me was Trivita. I have tried several others that claim to be as good,

Not for me, They do nothing. Trivita is mlm.

[Guest guest]

They still have blue laws here in Texas. You can't buy certain percentage of liquor until after noon on Sunday. Even wine, if it has too much alcohol content, can't be purchased until 1 minute after 12. And we still have dry counties here.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

And all the bars in Utah have to be private clubs in order to serve liquor. And they have to measure shots to exactly one ounce. And the only place to buy liquir is in a liquor store, which are all owned by the state. Imagine that. You can buy beer in the grocery store, but only 3.2 beer. Useless trivia......Oh yeah, joining a bar is generally $20 a year.