Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Angel- I saw a post where you mentioned me, but I've been so busy since returning from Thanksgiving that I'm just barely catching up yet. I just want to say to all that I have no doubt that MMS/Chlorine Dioxide/Hypochlourous Acid will oxidize or otherwise remove beneficial minerals and other substances from our bodies both by chemical action and by the inducement of diarrhea and maybe vomiting. To add the to the fray, it can induce severe Herx reactions because dying pathogens release very potent poisons into our bodies. Re: the heart, Go study Eby's site about the heart poison released by dying candida. All that being said, I cannot deny the state of health that I am regaining from its use. GO SLOW! Take days off at a time when you reach a point of discomfort. Keep records of where you were with it and when. We do it on a small magnetic dry erase board on the refrigerator. This has led me to trying things (foods, supplements, other alternatives) that I never tried before and it's really turning into a bonanza for me. Don't give up! Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1153 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 9:08 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 DB, You say you have no doubt MMS removed minerals from the blood/body but you do not offer anything of substance to back that up. Is this just speculation again or what. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 >You say you have no doubt MMS removed minerals from the blood/body but you do not offer anything of substance to back that up. Is this just speculation again or what.< Jack- Diarrhea removes nutrients rapidly and that is well known. I have not been able to take MMS without incurring some diarrhea. Detoxification from Herxing will remove good along with bad. Rebuilding from all the effort will use up nutrients. It's very safe to say that all of these things are going to happen. As for in-vivo chemical reactions, it's speculation but for me, reasonable to assume. Although I'm committed to the use of MMS, my experience with many other healing substances and protocols has taught me there's a downside to all and I'm keeping that in mind, right up front. I find it quite reasonable to be wary that Chlorine Dioxide might remove iron from our bodies in some way and that *might* be *a* reason for fatigue. It has struck me that this info comes as I have realized that I have wanted to eat considerably more beef since I started MMS. I can't prove a word of this but I do find it reasonable to assume that Chlorine Dioxide is not as discriminate as some want to think. At the same time I don't think it's anywhere near as dangerous as some may warn. On that point, it is already causing some schism the alternative community, and I'm not going with the naysayers. One thing I have decided for myself- the mere act of drinking activated MMS is not the cause of fatigue for me. Once I get used to a certain level, that level no longer causes the problems it did, hence it is reasonable to assume for me that the problems actually are from pathogen die-off. Daddybob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks DB for the discourse. I agree with a lot of what you say but I'm still looking to prove that minerals are depleted. As far as the trots are concerned we have taken it very slowly so as to avoid that. I agree that a severe case of the trots would probably deplete a lot of nutrients, that's only reasonable. But Like Jim Humble says, take it easy start slowly and build up slowly. I loaded up on minerals (Tyler multi mineral complex) yesterday and today and am not taking MMS at this time to see if the Palpitations stop. As a matter of fact they did stop early this morning. I have doubled my normal mineral intake. I'll wait a few days and see what happens then start MMS again. Regards, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Excellent post Daddybob. I have to mention again that toxins for me slammed my hypothalamus and I became adrenal insufficient. I almost went into adrenal crisis about five times. This is when your organs fail and you die. It was before I had ever heard of the MMS and after I had a marker removed partially made from nickel. In the biotoxin community it is well understood that toxins mess with the hypothalamus. My endocrinologist said I had an infiltration disease like hemochromotosis or sarciodosis but it was mycotoxins that had infiltrated my liver, brain and hypothalamus. It made me very fatigued. I hope this helps. Sharon Hanson ransley <ransley@...> wrote: >You say you have no doubt MMS removed minerals from the blood/body but youdo not offer anything of substance to back that up. Is this just speculationagain or what.<Jack- Diarrhea removes nutrients rapidly and that is well known. I have notbeen able to take MMS without incurring some diarrhea. Detoxification fromHerxing will remove good along with bad. Rebuilding from all the effort willuse up nutrients. It's very safe to say that all of these things are goingto happen.As for in-vivo chemical reactions, it's speculation but for me, reasonableto assume. Although I'm committed to the use of MMS, my experience with manyother healing substances and protocols has taught me there's a downside toall and I'm keeping that in mind, right up front.I find it quite reasonable to be wary that Chlorine Dioxide might removeiron from our bodies in some way and that *might* be *a* reason for fatigue.It has struck me that this info comes as I have realized that I have wantedto eat considerably more beef since I started MMS.I can't prove a word of this but I do find it reasonable to assume thatChlorine Dioxide is not as discriminate as some want to think. At the sametime I don't think it's anywhere near as dangerous as some may warn. On thatpoint, it is already causing some schism the alternative community, and I'mnot going with the naysayers.One thing I have decided for myself- the mere act of drinking activated MMSis not the cause of fatigue for me. Once I get used to a certain level, thatlevel no longer causes the problems it did, hence it is reasonable to assumefor me that the problems actually are from pathogen die-off.Daddybob Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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