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Lets get off the politics... But I cant help saying Ron is the ONLY politician I trust. Hes never voted for any thing self serving . If it isnt in the constitution ,he wont support it.He cant be bought. He is a truely honorable man! Sharon Hanson <shha2002@...> wrote: Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I do not trust Ron and please don't tell me about politics. Thank you very much.Carol Ann <saffireskyes > wrote: Excuse me....but could ya'll change the subject line once in a while. Sharon.....trust the individual.....not the party. the individual can be intelligent, brilliant............overall, people are stupid. Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I don't think I could ever trust another Republician. bobprice100

<bobprice100 > wrote: Sad but true that Carlin is right. With electronic voting I am not sure that it is even possible now to write in a candidate. Members of my family are sending support and money to Ron . Out of the whole field (both parties) he is the one that is most credible.Bob>> Hi Bob,> > I'm with you about Ron , unfortunately our> mainstream media is supporting Clinton and Obama. The> democrat and republican parties have the voters so> convinced that they are throwing their votes away if> they don't vote for the mainstream candidates. It's> sad, but some day

people will wake up and see that our> freedoms are slowly but surely being whittled away> from us. Click on this link: > http://www.shoutfile.com/v/a42Hu9Hr/Wake_Up_America > > it is a video of Carlin called Wake up America> in support of Ron . Do not watch this if you are> offended by four letter words as is typical of > Carlin's delivery style. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Wilkins

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You know voting for him is a pipe dream. He will never get elected. Sharon Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: Lets get off the politics... But I cant help saying Ron is the ONLY politician I trust. Hes never voted for any thing self serving . If it isnt in the constitution ,he wont support it.He cant be bought. He is a truely honorable man! Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I do not trust Ron and please don't tell me about politics. Thank you very much.Carol Ann <saffireskyes > wrote: Excuse me....but could ya'll change the subject line once in a while. Sharon.....trust the individual.....not the party. the individual can be

intelligent, brilliant............overall, people are stupid. Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I don't think I could ever trust another Republician. bobprice100 <bobprice100 > wrote: Sad but true that Carlin is right. With electronic voting I am not sure that it is even possible now to write in a candidate. Members of my family are sending support and money to Ron . Out of the whole field (both parties) he is the one that is most credible.Bob--- In , Blanton <sueblanton@...>

wrote:>> Hi Bob,> > I'm with you about Ron , unfortunately our> mainstream media is supporting Clinton and Obama. The> democrat and republican parties have the voters so> convinced that they are throwing their votes away if> they don't vote for the mainstream candidates. It's> sad, but some day people will wake up and see that our> freedoms are slowly but surely being whittled away> from us. Click on this link: > http://www.shoutfile.com/v/a42Hu9Hr/Wake_Up_America > > it is a video of Carlin called Wake up America> in support of Ron . Do not watch this if you are> offended by four letter words as is typical of > Carlin's delivery style. > > > > >

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With such an attitude, I can easily understand why. Sharon Hanson <shha2002@...> wrote: You know voting for him is a pipe dream. He will never get elected. Sharon Wilkins <montemomma2002 > wrote: Lets get off the politics... But I cant help saying Ron is the ONLY politician I trust. Hes never voted for

any thing self serving . If it isnt in the constitution ,he wont support it.He cant be bought. He is a truely honorable man! Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I do not trust Ron and please don't tell me about politics. Thank you very much.Carol Ann <saffireskyes > wrote: Excuse me....but could ya'll change the subject line once in a

while. Sharon.....trust the individual.....not the party. the individual can be intelligent, brilliant............overall, people are stupid. Sharon Hanson <shha2002 > wrote: I don't think I could ever trust another Republician. bobprice100 <bobprice100 > wrote: Sad but true that Carlin is right. With electronic voting I am not sure that it is even possible now to write in a candidate. Members of my family are sending support and money to Ron . Out of the whole field (both parties) he is the one that is most

credible.Bob>> Hi Bob,> > I'm with you about Ron , unfortunately our> mainstream media is supporting Clinton and Obama. The> democrat and republican parties have the voters so> convinced that they are throwing their votes away if> they don't vote for the mainstream candidates. It's> sad, but some day people will wake up and see that our> freedoms are slowly but surely being whittled away> from us. Click on this link: > http://www.shoutfile.com/v/a42Hu9Hr/Wake_Up_America > > it is a video of Carlin called Wake up America> in support of Ron . Do not watch this if you are>

offended by four letter words as is typical of > Carlin's delivery style. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Wilkins http//:www.juiceplus.com/+lw55887 The Children's Research Foundation Children 6-15 FREE for 3 years Get easy, one-click

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Sharon Hanson wrote:

You know voting for him is a pipe dream. He will never get

elected.

Surely the last 2 US elections have shown that there is little relation

between voting and electing.

Research into US history also reveals that this has always been the

norm rather than the exception.

The campaign and voting process does, however, serve a function. It is

an indication of and an influence on public opinion, which remains a

powerful force, even though who gets into the Oval Office is

determined by other entities than the public and other processes than

the elections.

Therefore if one looks upon the electoral process as having the

potential to alter the drift of public understanding and will, it

makes sense to support ideas and policies which are worthwhile, even

if the particular individual espousing them is not going to be allowed

into the office.

The bankers who run things have never allowed any president after

to oppose the Federal Reserve, but as it is demonstrably the

banking system that is at the root of most contemporary social evils,

should one not add ones voice to the critique and exposure of this vast

scam, rather than back one of the vamperialist candidates simply

because his/her winning looks more inevitable?

The very fact that the corporatist political parties and their

controlled media are in a panic about this out-of-control Ron

phenomenon suggests that it is one that should be encouraged. Since

your pre-election thinking and discussion, followed by your vote, is

not going to be what determines who gets the presidency, doesn't it

make sense to use it for this other, more longterm, purpose?

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These are tasty times- people get pissy when they see the country going down the tubes.

-- RE: [ ] This site has become nasty. Why are people so pissed?

Its the opiate of the masses. Kathy Wenger <katmakiah@...> wrote:

Hey, let's drop politics and talk religion, shall we????

JUST KIDDING!!!

Kathy

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I meant testy.

-- RE: [ ] This site has become nasty. Why are people so pissed?

Its the opiate of the masses. Kathy Wenger <katmakiah@...> wrote:

Hey, let's drop politics and talk religion, shall we????

JUST KIDDING!!!

Kathy

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Hi Sharon,

I will drop the politics issue after this post. If

everyone in America takes the attitude that voting for

the underdog will never get them elected, then the

government is going to keep us exactly where they want

us. It is about time that people start thinking for

themselves instead of letting media or party lines

dictate how and who they will vote for otherwise we

are going to lose our freedoms, as so many of the laws

being passed today are really stepping on

constitutional rights. Even if Ron doesn't have

a snowball's chance, at least I am voting my heart.

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Very well said susan.

I have always heard the same ole crap, Not to vote for this guy

because he will never win anyway. That's the kind of thinking that

has got us where we are at now. Would be similar to being a christian

in a room full of atheists and denying Jesus before them, Even though

in your heart you believe in him. Lord a mighty, Can we not take a

stand on anything anymore.....?

Bob.

>

> Hi Sharon,

>

> I will drop the politics issue after this post. If

> everyone in America takes the attitude that voting for

> the underdog will never get them elected, then the

> government is going to keep us exactly where they want

> us. It is about time that people start thinking for

> themselves instead of letting media or party lines

> dictate how and who they will vote for otherwise we

> are going to lose our freedoms, as so many of the laws

> being passed today are really stepping on

> constitutional rights. Even if Ron doesn't have

> a snowball's chance, at least I am voting my heart.

>

>

>

>

>

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Oh yes you make a good point. I have been fighting this battle for

30 years when I first noticed the right wing getting involved

politically and twisting the facts to suit their corporate sponsors.

You are not alone in your thinking and it truly is a blessing that

Bush was elected because the people in this country need to reach a

bottom before they will understand what has happened to them and

until Bush most of the American people have been fooled. All these

criminals had to say was abortion, gay rights or gay marriage and off

went 50% of the population and voted for them. These people were

misinformed and entertained but they knew nothing about what was

really taking place. With people like you and me and slowly others

they are coming around.

I agree with most of what Ron stands for but minimal taxation is

not one of the things I agree with for I believe there has to be a

redistribution of the wealth in this country and the only way to do

that is through taxation of the wealthy and distribution to the poor

and middle class. Hate me for it if you want but I don't think Ron

is the answer we need right now.

> > You know voting for him is a pipe dream. He will never get

elected.

> Surely the last 2 US elections have shown that there is little

relation

> between voting and electing.

> Research into US history also reveals that this has always been the

norm

> rather than the exception.

>

> The campaign and voting process does, however, serve a function. It

is

> an indication of and an influence on public opinion, which remains a

> powerful force, even though who gets into the Oval Office is

determined

> by other entities than the public and other processes than the

elections.

>

> Therefore if one looks upon the electoral process as having the

> potential to alter the drift of public understanding and will, it

makes

> sense to support ideas and policies which are worthwhile, even if

the

> particular individual espousing them is not going to be allowed

into the

> office.

>

> The bankers who run things have never allowed any president after

> to oppose the Federal Reserve, but as it is demonstrably the

> banking system that is at the root of most contemporary social

evils,

> should one not add ones voice to the critique and exposure of this

vast

> scam, rather than back one of the vamperialist candidates simply

because

> his/her winning looks more inevitable?

>

> The very fact that the corporatist political parties and their

> controlled media are in a panic about this out-of-control Ron

> phenomenon suggests that it is one that should be encouraged. Since

your

> pre-election thinking and discussion, followed by your vote, is not

> going to be what determines who gets the presidency, doesn't it make

> sense to use it for this other, more longterm, purpose?

>

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I agree with what you say but Ron is not the person I want

to vote for. I like and Dennis Kucinich. I still think

we have not reached our bottom and so will probably have to lose a

lot more before things turn around but the backlash will come and

when it does I hope it's severe.

>

> Hi Sharon,

>

> I will drop the politics issue after this post. If

> everyone in America takes the attitude that voting for

> the underdog will never get them elected, then the

> government is going to keep us exactly where they want

> us. It is about time that people start thinking for

> themselves instead of letting media or party lines

> dictate how and who they will vote for otherwise we

> are going to lose our freedoms, as so many of the laws

> being passed today are really stepping on

> constitutional rights. Even if Ron doesn't have

> a snowball's chance, at least I am voting my heart.

>

>

>

>

>

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Where's the moderator?

Where's the moderation?

Chuck

You can't be a figment of my imagination--I'd have done a better job

On 11/30/2007 2:55:10 PM, Sharon (shha2002@...) wrote:

> Oh yes you make a good point. I have been fighting this battle for

> 30 years when I first noticed the right wing getting involved

> politically and twisting the facts to suit their corporate sponsors.

> You are not alone in your thinking and it truly is a blessing that

> Bush was elected because the people in this country need to reach a

> bottom before they will understand what has happened to them and

> until Bush most of the American people have been fooled. All these

> criminals had to s

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PLEASE people!Could you please stop ranting about anything that's not MMS? Most of us here are because we want to learn about MMS, discuss MMS, share information about MMS.... I don't really care who you are woting for, what's your religion, what colour of your underwear is.... Can we now PLEASE go back to MMS?Thanks

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Did you know is a member of CFR? (Council on Foreign Relations) Ron and Dennis Kucinich are not members.

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I agree with what you say but Ron is not the person I want

to vote for. I like and Dennis Kucinich. I still think

we have not reached our bottom and so will probably have to lose a

lot more before things turn around but the backlash will come and

when it does I hope it's severe.

>

> Hi Sharon,

>

> I will drop the politics issue after this post. If

> everyone in America takes the attitude that voting for

> the underdog will never get them elected, then the

> government is going to keep us exactly where they want

> us. It is about time that people start thinking for

> themselves instead of letting media or party lines

> dictate how and who they will vote for otherwise we

> are going to lose our freedoms, as so many of the laws

> being passed today are really stepping on

> constitutional rights. Even if Ron doesn't have

> a snowball's chance, at least I am voting my heart.

>

>

>

>

>

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O.k. I promise! No more political talk.- S.

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PLEASE people!Could you please stop ranting about anything that's not MMS? Most of us here are because we want to learn about MMS, discuss MMS, share information about MMS.... I don't really care who you are woting for, what's your religion, what colour of your underwear is.... Can we now PLEASE go back to MMS?Thanks

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Sharon wrote:

>

> I agree with most of what Ron stands for but minimal taxation is

> not one of the things I agree with for I believe there has to be a

> redistribution of the wealth in this country and the only way to do

> that is through taxation of the wealthy and distribution to the poor

> and middle class. Hate me for it if you want but I don't think Ron

> is the answer we need right now.

>

Ron advocates elimination of the Income Tax, not all taxes. This is

consistent with his strict constitutionalism, since there is no law or

even ratified amendment which requires payment of such a tax.. It is not

the rich who pay it; they all know how to avoid it, with trusts,

foundations, etc.

To the best of my knowledge, this does not mean there cannot be a

capital gains tax, and that may be what is needed to get the rich to

help support those from whom they suck all their wealth....

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I don't really care who you are woting for,

....?

what's your religion,

....other

what colour of your underwear is....

....the first day i wear it or later on?

Can we now PLEASE go back to MMS?

Thanks

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