Re: heart palps

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Just a thought but have you had your thyroid levels checked? I'd recommend

doing so.

Babs

> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:58:22 -0500

> From: " J.C.Bray " <jcbray@...>

> Subject: heart palpitations

>

> Dear Group, about a month ago, I started having palpitations, like someone

> turned on a switch. Do any of you know anything about this. Is it common

> to ai diseases? They don't hurt, but I am as breathless as can be. Could it

> be stress?

> Yes, my pc dr. knows, i wore the 24hr. monitor, had an ekg and a rhythm

> test, but don't go back to the dr til the 16th! I could drop dead for all i

> know. It is mighty irritating. When it first started, the first thing I

> thought was it must be one of the meds, so I stopped everything. I gave it

> 2 weeks, and when they didn't stop, I asked the pharmacist about it. She

> said it was unlikely, since I had been on them for so long, never to have

> had this side effect before. So then I went back on prednisone and to the

> dr. I am not going back on methotrexate, period. But i am concerned with

> whats going on with my heart. Its scary. I'm not overweight and don't have

> high bp. I've never ever had a problem like this. Thank you and please

> put your two cents in if you can......cherie

>

>

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>> Hi guys,

i am wondering...for quiet a while i have a racing

> heart upon waking. it chills out in a few seconds upon

> waking but not always. It only happens after 4 am...

> If inap during the day it never happens and if i wake

> up before 4ish in the am it doesnt happen.

>

> My cardi says it anxiety, It will race furing the day

> if i am upset over something. what do you think and someone

mentioned it may be low blood pressure. would salt in take help it.

==>Who told you it was low blood pressure? I've had low blood

pressure and my heart did not race, however I got light-headed when

standing up quickly.

==>You should be having the Electrolyte Drink with 1 1/2 tsp of sea

salt and any you add to your foods - that should be plenty of salt.

For your racing heart do breathing exercises - see the Breathe Right

folder. Also see the Depression & Anxiety article - I think it is in

the Treatments Folder.

Cheers, Bee

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Sue,

This has happened to me many a time just as you describe. For me, it has always

been related to adrenals. Bee's adrenal files helped me a lot (of course with

also progressing on curing candida). I have a theory that even die off is hard

on your adrenals when they are weak as die-off and my heart racing have

coincided often. The heart racing can be very uncomfortable.

Take care -

~Anita

susan <tauttodream@...> wrote:

Hi guys,

i am wondering...for quiet a while i have a racing

heart upon waking. it chills out in a few seconds upon

waking but not always. It only happens after 4 am...

If inap during the day it never happens and if i wake

up before 4ish in the am it doesnt happen.

My cardi says it anxiety, It will race furing the day

if i am upset over something.

what do you think and someone mentioned it may be low

blood pressure. would salt in take help it.

Thanks... Sue

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

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>

> This has happened to me many a time just as you describe. For me,

it has always been related to adrenals. I have a theory that even

die off is hard on your adrenals when they are weak as die-off and my

heart racing have coincided often. The heart racing can be very

uncomfortable.

>

> Take care -

> ~Anita

>

> susan <tauttodream@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> i am wondering...for quiet a while i have a racing

> heart upon waking. > My cardi says it anxiety, It will race

furing the day

> if i am upset over something.

>

> what do you think and someone mentioned it may be low

> blood pressure. would salt in take help it.

>

> Thanks... Sue

Sue, the " other " Anita here. I too have had the same experience many

times. I will wake up - especially from a nap - with my heart just

pounding. I also can get the palpatations from eating food to

drinking water. I too have adrenal fatigue along with anxiety issues.

I've learned to lie quietly (even reading alittle) until I wake up

more fully and then proceed slowly for the next 20 min. or so. I'm

confident that as my adrenals continue to get the excellent

nourishment on this plan plus other recommendations that help me, I

will experience these strange symptoms more and more.

Thanks, Anita T.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

>

>

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ecellant point Vilik,

I know that I will sure pay attention to that and let you know how my

trial with MMS goes as far as that.

S

>

> I may have learned something important about heart palps.

Here 'tis.

>

> Yesterday I took no mms. Still felt distress in heart area. My box

of cesium and supplements (cancer treatment) had arrived by mail and

I was looking through it. Lo and behold, the material talked about

potassium helping heart palps!

>

> I thought " what if... " What if mms somehow causes minerals to be

depleted? So I took a shot of " Vibe " , a vitamin mineral drink in the

package. Felt better overall but not in heart. Started small amounts

of potassium. Also some magnesium. Got to the point where heart felt

okay! Still does!

>

> This may be SO important. Henneke, potassium deficiency can cause

fatigue ... could your fatigue be from that and not mercury?

>

> Why would mms cause mineral depletion? Who knows? Cessium does.

After mms goes through its process plain salt is left in the body ...

could that unbalance potassium? If vinegar is used as activator it

contains potassium. Some in lemon juice. But don't know about citric

acid, which I've been using ... haven't looked it up yet.

>

> As I said, I think this could be so important. The heart palps many

experience could be caused by a depletion of potassium. As could the

fatigue.

>

> I WAS taking foods with potassium -- bananas and potatos. That

didn't seem to be enough.

>

> No way to find but to experiment. I have to decide now between mms

and cesium ... but if I take up mms again I'll add potassium for

sure. Hope some people pick up on this and explore the possiblities.

>

> Angel

>

> " A miracle is mind's definition

> for Love's natural capacity to be. " Emmanuel

>

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Hi Hanneke, and Angel

To add for what it is worth.

I got Heart Palps, general agitation, unusual pain in lower R gut, brain fog,

unusual

grumpiness etc etc so I stopped MMS after only two or three days ( 6 dr x2 per

day) . Also

mentioned heart palpitations to Gail Kruger at the Health Shop and she said stop

all

chocolate 'cos of something to do with Bromine .... ( normally do not have

chocolate but had

found a delicious full strength cocoa powder so was pigging at night. ). I did

also pay attention

to taking some pott Chlor and also pott Carb and to drinking more water and have

upped the

Cal/Mag intake. The skipped beats stopped in a day or two and other symptoms

above

gradually went away over about two weeks.

On the more aerie side. I have noticed that during the same sort of time period

the past 4

weeks that many people who are usually steady and predictable are not, but are

acting

unusually agitated. blame it on the moon or haarp or fluorine in the water?

Tony M.

On 26 Nov 2007 at 17:44, Vilik Rapheles wrote about :

Subject : [ ] heart

>

> I may have learned something important about heart palps. Here 'tis.

>

> Yesterday Itook no mms. Still felt distress in heart area. My box of cesium

and supplements

> (cancer treatment) had arrived by mail and I was looking through it. Lo and

behold,the

> materialtalked about potassium helping heart palps!

>

> I thought " what if... " What if mms somehow causes minerals to be depleted? So

I took a shot of

> " Vibe " , a vitamin mineral drink in the package. Felt better overall but not in

heart. Started small

> amounts of potassium. Also some magnesium. Got to the point where heart felt

okay! Still does!

>

> This may beSO important. Henneke, potassium deficiency can cause fatigue ...

could your

> fatigue be from that and not mercury?

>

> Why would mms cause mineral depletion? Who knows? Cessium does. After mms goes

through

> its process plain salt is left in the body ... could that unbalance potassium?

If vinegar is used as

> activator it contains potassium. Some in lemon juice. But don't know about

citric acid, which I've

> been using ... haven't looked it up yet.

>

> As I said, I think this could besoimportant. The heart palps many experience

could be caused by

> a depletion of potassium. As could the fatigue.

>

> I WAS taking foods with potassium -- bananas and potatos. That didn't seem to

be enough.

>

> No way to find but to experiment. I have to decide now between mms and cesium

.... but if I take

> up mms again I'll add potassium for sure. Hope some people pick up on this and

explore the

> possiblities.

>

> Angel

>

> " A miracle is mind's definition

> for Love's natural capacity to be. " Emmanuel

>

>

>

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Tony,

Do you intend to restart MMS? If so how do you intend to work it. What I mean is I'm thinking if the palps stop I'll do MMS intermittently. I really don't want to give up on the MMS.

My target specifically when taking the MMS is to try to lower my PSA. I did lower my PSA significantly by taking Essiac (4 herb) tea. I have been on that for a year and my PSA dropped from 7.3 to 3.2. Of course I want to get it down to zero if possible but I would be happy if it was below 2. I'm continuing with the Essiac tea on a steady state basis. Any other benefits the MMS might bring would be a bonus.

Jack