RE: amalgam removal, detox and MMS

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when you start back up with the MMS, consider trying dosing at night and

first thing in the morning on arising or if you get up to pee. makes for a

much livelier day of feeling good, and you can eat vit-C & anti-oxidant

foods during the day without wasting the MMS or the C so much.

> [ ] amalgam removal, detox and MMS

>

>

> Hello

>

> I only just joined this group. The response by Mike Devour regarding

> mercury detoxing after amalgam removal caught my attention.

>

> Later today I will catch up on the messages in the archives.

>

> Having started taking MMS early September, I felt I was doing great.

>

> After an initial courageous start on the 3rd day with 10 drops, mostly

> because the first 2 days on lower doses were just fine - it was

> experimental for me, not fighting any known health issues) I was very

> sick for 8 hours straight followed by a marvelous day after.

> I dropped back on lower doses for days, planning on going slow, all

> the while listening to my body.

>

> Experiences differed from feeling fine for days resulting in slowly

> increasing the dosage. A few more 'totally sick days' helped me set a

> dosage that was fine for me.

> However, an overwhelming fatigue crept in. Nausea and/or diarrhea

> were absent. Just incredibly tired which seemed to increase by the

> day, plus an overwhelming desire to sleep. Staying on the lower

> doses, backing off, nothing seemed to work. Even missed a couple of

> days work because I was just too tired.

> Taking MMS has, it seems, put an end to my problems with insomnia

>

> Re the fatigue, it made me consider that something else must have been

> at work, resurfacing something old.. it took me a little while to

> figure it out. I first thought it was just an extreme Herx..

>

> Having had mercury poisoning in the past, it began to occur to me that

> perhaps taking the MMS had stirred up mercury residue in my body. It

> is accumulative and if having been exposed to mercury for years, up to

> 3-4 decades, the likelihood of mercury still hiding out somewhere

> (liver? brain tissue?) is a real possibility, even after all those

> years. All amalgams were removed and replaced in 1988!

>

> I have ceased taking MMS for the moment, and focus solely on doing

> another mercury detox protocol first. Drinking mostly fresh veg

> juices, fresh fruit and -juices, in the morning adding raw egg,

> spirulina, whey to the mixture, upped my Vit C intake to close to

> 8000 mg a day, late in the afternoon some juice with 1/4 teaspoon of

> chlorella. This protocol I'll be following until I receive my stuff

> in the mail especially designed for heavy metals detox.

> Oh, I also have started using Miracle II footbaths (hope soon to be

> able to use someone's bath tub for (5) daily baths of 40 mins with

> Miracle II)

>

> I guess what I am trying to illustrate here is: don't underestimate

> the absence of mercury in one's body, even after having the amalgams

> removed, even after having done one or more protocols for detox of

> this poison either.

>

> MMS will be back 'on the menu' when I finish another round of detox

> for mecury.

>

> Hope this helps someone.

>

> Hanneke

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kathy,

Yes, like you, I too believe that MMS removes heavy metals.

However, the urgency for me to rid my body of any possible

mercury residue (as a result of poisoning in the past with rather

severe neurological problems ) overrides my curiosity to experiment

with MMS.

I prefer to tackle the mercury detox in ways which have been

tested with other means.

Because of the debilitating, totally overwhelming fatigue which had

started to take hold of my whole being, body and mind, after 5-6 weeks of

using MMS - I just couldn't function anymore and had to cancel out

the MMS, and do something first to regain at least a little energy.

The initial onset of the fatigue and higher demand for sleep didn't worry

me too much as I thought it was part of the process, a Herx reaction,

nothing more. I lowered the dose then but instead of the tiredness

subsiding it just kept increasing whilst I was looking like 'death warmed

up'.

As the tiredness went from 1 week to 2, then 3-4-5 weeks, I was well on

my way to dismiss the Herx reaction and was convinced that I needed to

find a more plausible reason for it all.

I then stopped the MMS, had a juice fast for a few days.. and

got organised to do another mercury detox protocol.

At least I have my energy back, still sleeping like a baby which is

lovely after many years of very long days :-).

Will keep you posted.

Cheers

Hanneke

At 11:21 AM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

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However, I was under

the impression that MMS removes heavy metals in the body.

Chapter 10, page

27.

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Thanks Bob for your suggestions,

that's what I was doing already...I had worked out the best time for

me to take the MMS which was later in the afternoon... after an

afternoon snack and just before my evening meal. I had no other

physical problems with taking the MMS, even the smell, as obnoxious

as it is..lol.. wasn't an obstacle. No nausea nor diahrrea. Except

for the tiredness which wasn't relieved by at times up to 18 hours !

of sleep per day.. it just got worse and worse.

Once I stopped the MMS, the tiredness slowly diminished over the next

2-3 days.

Taking the MMS at the end of the afternoon, I could take the vit

C as soon as I got up in the morning, several doses right up till

midday. That way I knew it wouldn't interfere with the MMS.

Anyway, I am an optimist and I will be back using the MMS not before

long. We are al different and we have to find the best way which

suits us (body and life style) best.

I thank the MMS for bringing out the fact that I still have mercury

in my body somewhere. I thought I got rid of it all well before.

Keep up the good work people. :-)

Cheers

Hanneke

At 11:50 AM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

>when you start back up with the MMS, consider trying dosing at night and

>first thing in the morning on arising or if you get up to pee. makes for a

>much livelier day of feeling good, and you can eat vit-C & anti-oxidant

>foods during the day without wasting the MMS or the C so much.

[Guest guest]

sounds like maybe you were really in need of a lot of rest and the MMS took care of something that made it not only possible butr unavoidable?

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of HannekeSent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: RE: [ ] amalgam removal, detox and MMSHi Kathy,Yes, like you, I too believe that MMS removes heavy metals. However, the urgency for me to rid my body of any possible mercury residue (as a result of poisoning in the past with rather severe neurological problems ) overrides my curiosity to experiment with MMS. I prefer to tackle the mercury detox in ways which have been tested with other means. Because of the debilitating, totally overwhelming fatigue which had started to take hold of my whole being, body and mind, after 5-6 weeks of using MMS - I just couldn't function anymore and had to cancel out the MMS, and do something first to regain at least a little energy. The initial onset of the fatigue and higher demand for sleep didn't worry me too much as I thought it was part of the process, a Herx reaction, nothing more. I lowered the dose then but instead of the tiredness subsiding it just kept increasing whilst I was looking like 'death warmed up'. As the tiredness went from 1 week to 2, then 3-4-5 weeks, I was well on my way to dismiss the Herx reaction and was convinced that I needed to find a more plausible reason for it all. I then stopped the MMS, had a juice fast for a few days.. and got organised to do another mercury detox protocol. At least I have my energy back, still sleeping like a baby which is lovely after many years of very long days :-).Will keep you posted.CheersHannekeAt 11:21 AM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

THowever, I was under the impression that MMS removes heavy metals in the body. Chapter 10, page 27.

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RE: [ ] amalgam removal, detox and MMS

Hi Kathy,Yes, like you, I too believe that MMS removes heavy metals. However, the urgency for me to rid my body of any possible mercury residue (as a result of poisoning in the past with rather severe neurological problems ) overrides my curiosity to experiment with MMS. I prefer to tackle the mercury detox in ways which have been tested with other means. Because of the debilitating, totally overwhelming fatigue which had started to take hold of my whole being, body and mind, after 5-6 weeks of using MMS - I just couldn't function anymore and had to cancel out the MMS, and do something first to regain at least a little energy. The initial onset of the fatigue and higher demand for sleep didn't worry me too much as I thought it was part of the process, a Herx reaction, nothing more. I lowered the dose then but instead of the tiredness subsiding it just

kept increasing whilst I was looking like 'death warmed up'. As the tiredness went from 1 week to 2, then 3-4-5 weeks, I was well on my way to dismiss the Herx reaction and was convinced that I needed to find a more plausible reason for it all. I then stopped the MMS, had a juice fast for a few days.. and got organised to do another mercury detox protocol. At least I have my energy back, still sleeping like a baby which is lovely after many years of very long days :-).Will keep you posted.CheersHannekeAt 11:21 AM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

THowever, I was under the impression that MMS removes heavy metals in the body. Chapter 10, page 27.

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Hanneke,

I am going to keep this post for future reference.

S

>

> Hello

>

> I only just joined this group. The response by Mike Devour

regarding

> mercury detoxing after amalgam removal caught my attention.

>

> Later today I will catch up on the messages in the archives.

>

> Having started taking MMS early September, I felt I was doing

great.

>

> After an initial courageous start on the 3rd day with 10 drops,

mostly

> because the first 2 days on lower doses were just fine - it was

> experimental for me, not fighting any known health issues) I was

very

> sick for 8 hours straight followed by a marvelous day after.

> I dropped back on lower doses for days, planning on going slow, all

> the while listening to my body.

>

> Experiences differed from feeling fine for days resulting in slowly

> increasing the dosage. A few more 'totally sick days' helped me

set a

> dosage that was fine for me.

> However, an overwhelming fatigue crept in. Nausea and/or diarrhea

> were absent. Just incredibly tired which seemed to increase by the

> day, plus an overwhelming desire to sleep. Staying on the lower

> doses, backing off, nothing seemed to work. Even missed a couple of

> days work because I was just too tired.

> Taking MMS has, it seems, put an end to my problems with insomnia

>

> Re the fatigue, it made me consider that something else must have

been

> at work, resurfacing something old.. it took me a little while to

> figure it out. I first thought it was just an extreme Herx..

>

> Having had mercury poisoning in the past, it began to occur to me

that

> perhaps taking the MMS had stirred up mercury residue in my body. It

> is accumulative and if having been exposed to mercury for years, up

to

> 3-4 decades, the likelihood of mercury still hiding out somewhere

> (liver? brain tissue?) is a real possibility, even after all those

> years. All amalgams were removed and replaced in 1988!

>

> I have ceased taking MMS for the moment, and focus solely on doing

> another mercury detox protocol first. Drinking mostly fresh veg

> juices, fresh fruit and -juices, in the morning adding raw egg,

> spirulina, whey to the mixture, upped my Vit C intake to close to

> 8000 mg a day, late in the afternoon some juice with 1/4 teaspoon

of

> chlorella. This protocol I'll be following until I receive my stuff

> in the mail especially designed for heavy metals detox.

> Oh, I also have started using Miracle II footbaths (hope soon to be

> able to use someone's bath tub for (5) daily baths of 40 mins with

> Miracle II)

>

> I guess what I am trying to illustrate here is: don't underestimate

> the absence of mercury in one's body, even after having the amalgams

> removed, even after having done one or more protocols for detox of

> this poison either.

>

> MMS will be back 'on the menu' when I finish another round of detox

> for mecury.

>

> Hope this helps someone.

>

> Hanneke

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy & Hanneke,

I have felt just as Kathy, sleepy but so much happier, (which I

attribute to reduction in pain levels). I really appriciate Hanneke's

input since you have so much time under your belt with this

treatment. I wish we had more on the site like that. I promiss that

when I get farther along I will still be here to help the newbee's. I

am trying to keep acurate records to share also.

so please both of you keep up the posts so that the rest of us can

learn learn learn and compare.

S

>

> Thanks for sharing that, Hanneke. It appears that you are the

longest

> MMS user that is on this list, September, is that right?

>

> I have also noticed that I'm needing more sleep. yawnnnnnnn

>

> However, I was under the impression that MMS removes heavy metals

in the

> body.

>

> Chapter 10, page 27.

> I'm going to keep up my max dose here, and today I'm going for 3

doses

> once again. Doing #2 as soon as I press the send button.

> I'll let you know how I feel too, ok? So, you do the cleanse and

I'll do

> the MMS and we can compare.

>

> By the way, my liver spots, on the back of my hands, are actually

> fading.

> I just noticed them today, and moaning over them last week, and

they are

> lighter and almost can't see them without looking closely.

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

Very good point bob, If a persons adrenal glands were on full blast

all the time because of a pathogen, and then it was killed, wouldnot

it be possible that the adrenals would go on shut down to rest or

repair. remember the good anology of Hulda : ' if your in a

room of bitting incsects and you kill them that is wonderful, but

while your not being bit anymore you still need to heal all the

wounds.' so it is possible ( just my own personal theory )

S

>

> T

> However, I was under the impression that MMS removes heavy

metals in the

> body.

>

> Chapter 10, page 27.

>

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You are so right . I was diagnosed with Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency after a clip made partially from nickel was removed from my breast. I am highly allergic to nickel and it was in there for five years. I got sicker after it was removed. The funny thing is that after the first attempt to remove the clip I developed a Cushing's like syndrome with swelling on the left and right side of my neck and a buffalo hump which are classic signs of cortisol excess. Four months after the Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency diagnosis I was diagnosed with biotoxin disease from mold in my breast. I believe it is was the release of the toxins that caused my problems but I'm trying to find

out if it is all connected somehow. If you are susceptable to a certain metal (for me it was nickel) does that cause fungus to grow in your body? Anyone?

Sharon

[ ] Re: amalgam removal, detox and MMS

Very good point bob, If a persons adrenal glands were on full blast all the time because of a pathogen, and then it was killed, wouldnot it be possible that the adrenals would go on shut down to rest or repair. remember the good anology of Hulda : ' if your in a room of bitting incsects and you kill them that is wonderful, but while your not being bit anymore you still need to heal all the wounds.' so it is possible ( just my own personal theory )S> > T> However, I was under the impression that MMS removes heavy metals in the> body.> > Chapter 10, page 27.>

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Not sure if I quite understand what you are saying...

As I explained, the fatigue must have been clearly related to the MMS,

stirring up things (Hg) I believed had left my body.

Although I think Hg is better out than in my system, it was

not giving me any trouble health wise.. the MMS stirred it up and

that's where my increased demand for sleep started. Before I

started my adventure with MMS I had no abnormal tiredness nor abnormally

long sleeping demands. Was fit as a fiddle, working full on and would go

to sleep with often still energy to burn. Getting up in the mornings no

problem and totally ready for another day of whatever had to be

done.

Does that sound like my body was in real demand of a lot of rest?

You may be right but I can't follow the logic and perhaps I am missing

something.

Only difference was that the quality of my sleep was better since taking

MMS... I am talking about the beginning days of taking MMS. Deeper, and

uninterrupted. (sleep still is deeper and uninterrupted, even after

ceasing the MMS..no more insomnia).

When still on my MMS experiment, after a little while with the

deeper and good sleep the fatigue started to set in which I ascribed to a

Herx. When I got worse (fatigue and the length of hours for sleep)

I needed an explanation as to the why of it all...this couldn't be a

Herx. I had to do something else, find an answer as I could not

function at all.

Once I stopped the MMS, my energy returned, my sleeping hours are back to

normal (6-8 hrs) and I feel pretty normal again .. ( some

might disagree on that aspect ..me and normal...but that's another story

of course ;-)).

I truly believe that there might be many people out there who have

mercury (or other heavy metals) in their body and have not experienced

any adverse side effects, they live 'happily ever after' so to

speak. My detoxing in the past might have brought my levels

of heavy metals back to the stage that I too was living in the

'happy ever after' state.

However, once I took the MMS , it got stirred up and bingo. I had

real fears I was heading back to square one... a long

struggle with MS symptoms and other neurological issues, a

situation I have battled through trying to find answers with no help from

doctors (it was all in my head.. sounds familiar to some?). A situation I

have no desire to ever experience again.

As I mentioned earlier, everyone has to find the best way using MMS

suiting their body and life style. We are all different.

Listening to your body is important, taking appropriate action even more

so.

Hanneke

At 04:32 PM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

sounds like maybe you were really in

need of a lot of rest and the MMS took care of something that made it not

only possible butr unavoidable?

[Guest guest]

i might've misread, but i thought you said something about previously not getting full nights sleep for a long time, so i was guessing something that was making it hard to sleep was removed and your body was playing some sort of catch-up maybe.

ok, looking down again i see you did mention previous insomnia...

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of HannekeSent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [ ] amalgam removal, detox and MMSNot sure if I quite understand what you are saying...As I explained, the fatigue must have been clearly related to the MMS, stirring up things (Hg) I believed had left my body.Although I think Hg is better out than in my system, it was not giving me any trouble health wise.. the MMS stirred it up and that's where my increased demand for sleep started. Before I started my adventure with MMS I had no abnormal tiredness nor abnormally long sleeping demands. Was fit as a fiddle, working full on and would go to sleep with often still energy to burn. Getting up in the mornings no problem and totally ready for another day of whatever had to be done.Does that sound like my body was in real demand of a lot of rest? You may be right but I can't follow the logic and perhaps I am missing something.Only difference was that the quality of my sleep was better since taking MMS... I am talking about the beginning days of taking MMS. Deeper, and uninterrupted. (sleep still is deeper and uninterrupted, even after ceasing the MMS..no more insomnia).When still on my MMS experiment, after a little while with the deeper and good sleep the fatigue started to set in which I ascribed to a Herx. When I got worse (fatigue and the length of hours for sleep) I needed an explanation as to the why of it all...this couldn't be a Herx. I had to do something else, find an answer as I could not function at all.Once I stopped the MMS, my energy returned, my sleeping hours are back to normal (6-8 hrs) and I feel pretty normal again .. ( some might disagree on that aspect ..me and normal...but that's another story of course ;-)).I truly believe that there might be many people out there who have mercury (or other heavy metals) in their body and have not experienced any adverse side effects, they live 'happily ever after' so to speak. My detoxing in the past might have brought my levels of heavy metals back to the stage that I too was living in the 'happy ever after' state. However, once I took the MMS , it got stirred up and bingo. I had real fears I was heading back to square one... a long struggle with MS symptoms and other neurological issues, a situation I have battled through trying to find answers with no help from doctors (it was all in my head.. sounds familiar to some?). A situation I have no desire to ever experience again.As I mentioned earlier, everyone has to find the best way using MMS suiting their body and life style. We are all different.Listening to your body is important, taking appropriate action even more so. HannekeAt 04:32 PM 26/11/2007, you wrote:

sounds like maybe you were really in need of a lot of rest and the MMS took care of something that made it not only possible butr unavoidable?