Re: FW: MMS Update - HCV and Herpes

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Hey Kathy. The medical intuitive lady, that told me that I only had mercury left in my spine, had a spray for parasites that were in the lymph nodes. She said to spray it under the arms and it would go into the nodes there and do the job. Considering no one treats things that way--sprays under the arms to contact the lymph system--perhaps spraying MMS, maybe mixed with the DMSO to carry it further, on the spine might work?

Other than that maybe just continue taking the AMMS long term. Like Jim said--perhaps some things might take up to a year. Or the chiro said--3 months to start out with and then add 1 month for every year of illness.

And no wonder all of the cancers and perhaps some Alzheimer's from under arm deodorants! Taking those chemicals right to the lymph, then going through the whole body. Hmmmmm

Samala,

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Meaning it doesn't have much of a blood supply, so getting the AMMS to the spine would require some effort. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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How about having someone spray mms onto your spine with the dmso, and

under your arms?

Another idea, try adding dmso 99.9 pure 1 teaspoon to the mms and

taking it orally. Might not work becuase of the activator...but you

could drink the 1 teaspoon dmso in the activator. Have others tried

this?

When I applied 70% dmso/30% distilled water to my hands, it absorbed

in 10 minutes and 90% of my pain was gone. If it absorbs that fast,

and relieves that much pain, it definitely got into the hand.

Therefore, spraying mms directly onto your spine with the dmso may be

what helps knock it out.

In Christ,

Ava

>

> Hey Kathy. The medical intuitive lady, that told me that I only

had mercury

> left in my spine, had a spray for parasites that were in the lymph

nodes.

> She said to spray it under the arms and it would go into the nodes

there and

> do the job. Considering no one treats things that way--sprays

under the

> arms to contact the lymph system--perhaps spraying MMS, maybe mixed

with the

> DMSO to carry it further, on the spine might work?

>

> Other than that maybe just continue taking the AMMS long term.

Like Jim

> said--perhaps some things might take up to a year. Or the chiro

said--3

> months to start out with and then add 1 month for every year of

illness.

>

> And no wonder all of the cancers and perhaps some Alzheimer's from

under arm

> deodorants! Taking those chemicals right to the lymph, then going

through

> the whole body. Hmmmmm

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Meaning it doesn't have much of a blood supply, so getting the

AMMS to the

> spine would require some effort. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, DMSO is well known for it's ability to take things directly into the blood stream. Therefore mixing it with AMMS and spraying it on might just do something great. Won't know until someone experiments.

I know Jim put straight MMS on his wrist and then DMSO on top of it and it 'burne' a hole in the wrist. But that might have been because it was straight MMS and that has a ph of 13. It would be wise to experiment with the AMMS and DMSO on a less delicate area than the spin or the lymph until you see how it does on something tougher like the arm or leg. If it didn't bother the skin much there, then I'd try the spine first. Then if that was ok then I'd try the underarms. Just my personal caution, though.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

How about having someone spray mms onto your spine with the dmso, and

under your arms?

Another idea, try adding dmso 99.9 pure 1 teaspoon to the mms and

taking it orally. Might not work becuase of the activator...but you

could drink the 1 teaspoon dmso in the activator. Have others tried

this?

[Guest guest]

chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3 drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.

On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand that would not go

away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS mixed with 3 drops of

lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and then added 2 drops

of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had put a blow torch on

my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A large brown spot

appeared much larger than the small sore.

[Guest guest]

The DMSO does heat up when mixed with other stuff. It probably

depends on the substance.

When we mixed it with aloe ver gel for applying to our skin, it got

quite warm; as well as, when I mixed the 70% DMSO and the 30%

distilled water.

I was surprised that it got heated once again when applying the 70/30

combo to my skin as I had some water on some of my skin already when

I was in the bath tub.

It also got really warm in the bath tub. When poruing Epsom Salt

into the tub, it usually gets cold when mixing it in the water. I

poured a cup of it in the tub first, and mixed with the water in the

tub (it got slightly cold where I was mixing). When I poured the 2

ozs in the same area I did feel the heat in the water with my feet as

the DMSO mixed with the Epsom Salt and well water.

From the bit of mixing I've done, I know it does heat up and it

depends on what it is mixed with. However, it hasn't taken long to

cool down yet.

As soon as I start with the MMS, and do DMSO combos I'll let ya'll

know my results.

In Christ,

Ava

>

> chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3

> drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was

> applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.

> On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand

> that would not go

>

> away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS

> mixed with 3 drops of

>

> lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and

> then added 2 drops

>

> of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had

> put a blow torch on

>

> my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A

> large brown spot

>

> appeared much larger than the small sore.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, just want to thank everyone participating in these discussions. It's amazing how much of the book I had forgotten.I just read the protocol for treating HCVand earlier in the chapter, there are some different instructions for taking more than 2 large doses a day.

=====================================================================From chapter 10

Hepatitis A, B, and C and all other strains of Hepatitis: the patients needs 15 drops twice a day, but will not usually tolerate 15 drops. When using 15 drops immediately, the immune system attacks too hard. Start with two drops and if that does not make them nauseous try three drops on the next dose later that same day. If it does make them nauseous try one drop on the next dose that same day. Always continue with one drop until they can take it without nausea, then go to two. Most people can start out with two drops. Keep increasing the drops until the person can take 15 drops twice a day. Be careful to avoid nausea as that often makes the person afraid of the MMS and they will quit and you won’t be able to get them to start again.

....start increasing the drops at each dose as long as the person does not become nauseous. Keep at it until you have reached 15 drop doses that do not make the person nauseous. Then do two 15 drop doses within two hours. Then do that a second time during the day. Then do that each day until the person is well. Normally a person will be well by the time he has increased doses to 15 drops, but if not keep at it.==================================================

This will be my new protocol. Instead of doing what I did yesterday, which really kicked my butt.

I was fine until I ate something after my 4th dose, then I got really sick and ended up vomiting. I immediately felt better in the stomach, but still had diarrhea today. I felt dizzy and nauseated the rest of the evening and slept 10 hours, woke up exhausted and weak. I made a nourishing soup of rice and vegetables and I'm taking it easy today. Feling much better now.

I wonder if taking it all day like that is just too hard on the body, and that taking a larger dose twice would give recovery time.

Kim, Thanks for your feedback.

The 3 minute rule is for activation. Once it is diluted, it slows or stops the activation process. Jim says each molecule has a life of about 2 hours and AMMS keeps producing molecules for up to 12 hours. Jim says you can drink it within an hour. (For those with low tolerance, he says up to 4 hours. That is in an interview with Adam Abraham. )

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS

for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his

hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering?

Regards,

Dawn

>

> chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3

> drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was

> applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.

> On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand

> that would not go

>

> away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS

> mixed with 3 drops of

>

> lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and

> then added 2 drops

>

> of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had

> put a blow torch on

>

> my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A

> large brown spot

>

> appeared much larger than the small sore.

>

[Guest guest]

he probably hasn't been dosing himself all the time for years. i sure

wouldn't.

seems he did get rid of it with MMS though.

i managed to get a cold while taking the MMS and lots of CS and herbs &

supps too. surprised me. not really much more than an occasional sniffle

or runny nose though. woke up with sore throat one morning but mms stopped

that like hitting an OFF switch. amazing. but the sniffles linger somehow.

> [ ] Re: FW: MMS Update - HCV and

> Herpes

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS

> for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his

> hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering?

>

> Regards,

> Dawn

>

>

>

> >

> > chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3

> > drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was

> > applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.

> > On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand

> > that would not go

> >

> > away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS

> > mixed with 3 drops of

> >

> > lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and

> > then added 2 drops

> >

> > of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had

> > put a blow torch on

> >

> > my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A

> > large brown spot

> >

> > appeared much larger than the small sore.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have wondered, too. But he does say that some things can replicate faster than the MMS can kill it off if you don't take enough MMS often enough. Plus, you know--the shoemakers kids go barefoot. He might be busy and just not take his own stuff regularly. I find many health practitioners do that--me included.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS

for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his

hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering?

[Guest guest]

Does the book say how long he had been taking the MMS when he got the

cancerous sore on his hand? Perhaps it was at the beginning.

In Christ,

Ava

> >

> > chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3

> > drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was

> > applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.

> > On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand

> > that would not go

> >

> > away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS

> > mixed with 3 drops of

> >

> > lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and

> > then added 2 drops

> >

> > of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had

> > put a blow torch on

> >

> > my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A

> > large brown spot

> >

> > appeared much larger than the small sore.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jim says that while taking MMS it seems the body still recognizes colds and flu viruses and you will STILL get colds and flu--experience all the symptoms. But because you are taking MMS, instead of having them for a week or more, you will only experience them for a few hours.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I managed to get a cold while taking the MMS and lots of CS and herbs &

supps too. surprised me. not really much more than an occasional sniffle

or runny nose though. woke up with sore throat one morning but mms stopped

that like hitting an OFF switch. amazing. but the sniffles linger somehow.

[Guest guest]

Good question. alvarezdy <alvarezdy@...> wrote: Hi All, Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering? Regards, Dawn > > chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS

with 3 > drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was > applied to the cancer on Jim's hand. > On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand > that would not go > > away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS > mixed with 3 drops of > > lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and > then added 2 drops > > of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had > put a blow torch on > > my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A > large brown spot > > appeared much larger than the small sore. > Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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ya i thought that was strange my self if he takes a daily maintance dose how is this possible?Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: Good question. alvarezdy <alvarezdycomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Hi All,Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm

wondering?Regards, Dawn>> chapter 10 page 14, activated 1 drop MMS with 3> drops lemon juice, added 2 drops of DMSO, was> applied to the cancer on Jim's hand.> On a small cancerous sore on the back of my hand> that would not go> > away for over a year, I put one drop of MMS> mixed with 3 drops of> > lemon juice, and as usual waited 3 minutes and> then added 2 drops> > of DMSO. It immediately felt like someone had> put a blow torch on> > my hand. But the pain was gone in 3 minutes. A> large brown spot> > appeared much larger than the small sore.>Regards, Carol

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this one has been more pernicious, running for over a week, but minimal

symptoms...just won't quite leave!

RE: [ ] Re: FW: MMS Update - HCV and

Herpes

Jim says that while taking MMS it seems the body still recognizes colds and

flu viruses and you will STILL get colds and flu--experience all the

symptoms. But because you are taking MMS, instead of having them for a week

or more, you will only experience them for a few hours.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

kimwally1 wrote:

>

> I mix the mms with 1/2 tpoon vinegar and i can smell the chlorine gas

> - i prevent it's escape by putting my hand over the top of the glass

> whilst i wait

> the 3 minutes.

What's the point of that? Whatever gas has left the solution will escape

anyway when you remove your hand, apart from whatever goes up your nose....

[Guest guest]

'Kathy Wenger' wrote:

Message

I

got my MMS Nov 1, and started taking it. I worked up to 14 drops 3

times a day in 3 weeks.

Nov

23, I tried 16 and got nausea, so I skipped the second dose and took 15

before bed. The next day I took 2 15 drop doses, and the following day,

2 doses of 15 and one of 16. The following day I took 16 and got nausea

and mild diarrhea, so I skipped taking any until the next evening, I

took 15 and then another 8 at 3 am. The next day I tried for 3 doses

again, which had the same effect. The following day I got nausea and

mild diarrhea. I felt frustrated. I decided to just do 15 twice a day

for awhile.

Dec

1, 2 and 3 - I was getting intestinal disturbances but nothing serious,

just looseness. Then Monday morning I got a herpes blister on my

rectum. Hurt like hell. That did it. I was really frustrated. This

stuff must have a difficult time killing viruses. And if herpes is

still around, probably so is the HCV, although since it lives

somewhat in the liver, AMMS would get to it easier than Herpes which

lives in the spine and the spine is ischemic. Meaning it doesn't have

much of a blood supply, so getting the AMMS to the spine would require

some effort. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

So

I got serious yesterday. I took 20 drops at midnight and went to sleep.

Never got any nausea, but I slept disturbed and uneasy and had some

real colorful dreams which I don't remember now. I got up at 5, drank 3

cups of water, and took 20 more drops, and went back to bed. Note,

I sipped each of these rather large doses through the space of an hour,

I sipped and sat and busied myself with a Sudoku book.

I

got up around 10:30 this morning and felt really tired, but after being

up for 30 minutes felt fine. So at noon I sipped another 20 drops over

the space of an hour and I decided that if I was really serious, I

would fast today, so I have not eaten. I have the squirts now, but they

are still mild. It helps that there is no food to process. I'm drinking

a lot of water. I think I'll add some real salt to it for mineral

replacement and take some PB-8.

The

blisters are feeling better. I thought that while they are out, would

be a good time to strike, as they are near the blood and capillaries.

I'm also treating them with Abreva.

I'll

keep you informed. I plan on taking another dose at 6 pm. I really

don't have any nausea or upset stomach. I'm sure I'll get hungry soon,

but I'm going to skip food for a time.

Kathy

Hi Kathy,

I have some thought s to share.Firstly, I don't think mms has a problem

"killing viruses" anything that can kill Malaria in that many people

must be very powerful.

I think, however that the "sipping over an hour method" may not be

doing anything.The key is -to my understanding, we must respect the 3

minute rule.

The vinegar activates the sodium chlorite in 3 minutes -under that time

it is not fully activated after that time we have the precipitation of

a chemical solvent

called chlorine dioxide -in quantities small enough to be safely

ingested yet large enough to kill pathogens living in our body.

I mix the mms with 1/2 tpoon vinegar and i can smell the chlorine gas

- i prevent it's escape by putting my hand over the top of the glass

whilst i wait

the 3 minutes.Then i add a small amount of water(about 1/3 glass) and

swallow it .The other night after 15 drops i felt a little queasy but

this may have been

because i had not eaten for nearly the whole day and it was nearly tea

time.It passed.

I also take some probiotics -hours after, to replace any good guys

killed in the war which i get from here:

(http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/products/humanhealth/bio-bubble.htm)

I'm sure that the gut needs to be recolonized, so I'm not sur that long

term use of mms is a good idea -like long term use of anti-biotics is

not a good idea.

We need the gut flora.

Ultimately , we need to build our system up to take care of these

problems before they get too big -don't you agree?

Hope this helps

Kim

p.s. after 3 minutes the mms becomes weaker by the second and so it

must be swallowed immediately.

[Guest guest]

And...One would wonder how this was possible. Linus ing died of Prostrate cancer.http://www.nndb.com/people/824/000031731/norm donatien <istorm32@...> wrote: ya i thought that was strange my self if he takes a daily maintance dose how is this possible?Carol Ann <saffireskyes > wrote: Good question. alvarezdy <alvarezdycomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Hi All,Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering?Regards, DawnRegards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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On 12/8/2007 9:03:13 AM, Carol Ann (saffireskyes@...) wrote:

> And...One would wonder how this was possible. Linus ing died of

> Prostrate cancer.

>

> http://www.nndb.com/people/824/000031731/

>

>

Uhhh, at age 93.

THAT counts for something...

And he was sharp to the end, my MIL wasn't.

Chuck

This is no ordinary fool you're dealing with.

[Guest guest]

We have to keep in mind; people usually don't develop life-saving supplement use because they have perfect health. They are motivated by illness. Jim Fix was famous for writing a book on jogging, and then died of a heart attack in his fifties. The media neglected to mention that he smoked for thirty years prior. Something is going to take us out eventually. I say so what if Jim Humble got cancer. there is a lot at play all the time. I have used ozone in all forms and mega vitamin c, and the hcv -still- tries to kick my butt. Its relentless. Good news is, I have something else in my tool box.

Re: [ ] Re: FW: MMS Update - HCV and Herpes

And...One would wonder how this was possible. Linus ing died of Prostrate cancer.http://www.nndb. com/people/ 824/000031731/norm donatien <istorm32 (DOT) com> wrote:

ya i thought that was strange my self if he takes a daily maintance dose how is this possible?Carol Ann <saffireskyes> wrote:

Good question. alvarezdy <alvarezdycomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi All,Has anyone stopped to wonder why Jim, who has presumably taken MMS for quite a few years, would have a cancerous sore on the back of his hand --that would not go away for over a year? I'm wondering?Regards, DawnRegards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp. gsfc.nasa. gov/apod/ archivepix. html

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