Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Are tomatoes o.k. to eat at any point on this diet or just after a certain amount of time? I told DH he couldn't have any until we got rid of the candida. Thanks http://kelleygate.blogspot.com paste that was in a jar thats only ingredients were tomatoes and salt. The only ingredients in the sauce we: tomatoes, tomatoe paste from the jar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 > Last night I made homemade meat sauce (with chicken). I bought a paste that was in a jar thats only ingredients were tomatoes and salt. The only ingredients in the sauce we: tomatoes, tomatoe paste from the jar, onions, garlic, ghee, sea salt, coconut oil Later that night, I noticed how bloated I was (my main candida symptom), and I could feel my stomach stretching. I woke up fairly bloated as well.--I felt like I was back to square 1. This afternoon I ate some of the leftover meat sauce from the night before, and in seconds my stomach was bloated (i look 5 months pregnant again). So, I'm guessing something in the sauce is causing all my symtoms to come back (and I highly doubt this is die off). ==>I believe the culprit is tomatoe paste because it is made with the worst tomatoes and usually is moldy. You probably wouldn't have any reactions if you made your own sauce from scratch. > I have also been eating a lot of tomatoes for the past couple of days and have felt more bloated than normal. Do you think tomatoes are what are causing it? My body does not react well with MSG, and if I recall correctly, tomatoes have a lot of MSG right? > I just wish I know what I did wrong so I don't have to start all over again. My naturopath even told me last week that my candida was not active anymore ==>Tomatoes don't usually cause problems, but you could experiment. First try eating only things made from scratch, i.e. make your own tomato sauce. If you still have problems be sure you are buying " certified organic " tomatoes. If you still have problems cut back to a smaller amount of tomatoes and very gradually increase them, i.e. every 4-5 days. ==>How could your naturopath know you don't have active candida? Bloating is caused by candida overgrowing and also by candida being killed off because it puts out carbon dioxide (gas). Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 > Are tomatoes o.k. to eat at any point on this diet or just after a > certain amount of time? I told DH he couldn't have any until we got > rid of the candida. ==>Tomatoes are okay, and they are listed on the foods and shopping lists for candida at my website - re-check the lists at http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com . Tomatoes were one of the 9 foods I could eat during the first part of my candida cure 20 years ago, but I always had fresh ones, and nothing that was bottled or canned. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 There are sometimes hidden ingredients not listed in canned items. My guess is there were preservatives and/or MSG in it, and you reacted to that. Eileen Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: > Last night I made homemade meat sauce (with chicken). I bought a paste that was in a jar thats only ingredients were tomatoes and salt. The only ingredients in the sauce we: tomatoes, tomatoe paste from the jar, onions, garlic, ghee, sea salt, coconut oil Later that night, I noticed how bloated I was (my main candida symptom), and I could feel my stomach stretching. I woke up fairly bloated as well.--I felt like I was back to square 1. This afternoon I ate some of the leftover meat sauce from the night before, and in seconds my stomach was bloated (i look 5 months pregnant again). So, I'm guessing something in the sauce is causing all my symtoms to come back (and I highly doubt this is die off). ==>I believe the culprit is tomatoe paste because it is made with the worst tomatoes and usually is moldy. You probably wouldn't have any reactions if you made your own sauce from scratch. > I have also been eating a lot of tomatoes for the past couple of days and have felt more bloated than normal. Do you think tomatoes are what are causing it? My body does not react well with MSG, and if I recall correctly, tomatoes have a lot of MSG right? > I just wish I know what I did wrong so I don't have to start all over again. My naturopath even told me last week that my candida was not active anymore ==>Tomatoes don't usually cause problems, but you could experiment. First try eating only things made from scratch, i.e. make your own tomato sauce. If you still have problems be sure you are buying " certified organic " tomatoes. If you still have problems cut back to a smaller amount of tomatoes and very gradually increase them, i.e. every 4-5 days. ==>How could your naturopath know you don't have active candida? Bloating is caused by candida overgrowing and also by candida being killed off because it puts out carbon dioxide (gas). Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 It is called the 2% rule if it makes up less than 2% of the weight of the item they don't have to list it > > There are sometimes hidden ingredients not listed in canned items. My guess is there were preservatives and/or MSG in it, and you reacted to that. > > Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 HI, This is really potent stuff. You will want to take it slow. Your body will tell you when you have an appropriate dosage. I strongly suggest that you go with the citric acid. Fruits have some vitamin C (ascorbic acid) that others say deactivates the dioxide. Don't give up the ship yet, just change your procedure a little. Let us know how things progress. Bob > > I was very excited to try this with my brother that has Hep C and a > very bad liver, hoping for a cure. I by the way have recently shown > high liver enzymes. > I started by myself to test it. My first dose was 4 drops mixed with 8 > drops of vinegar 2x that day. I didn't experience any nausea and went > up to 8 drops but with 16 drops of lemon juice and I gave my brother 6 > drops with 12 drops of lemon juice. > We both got diarrhea and both we're sever and we felt very sick. > I later found out that the drops for lemon and vinegar are different. > Is that why I had the problem? > Anyway I was sacred off for a day and a half now and want to know the > best way to proceed with out feeling so horrible. Also I noticed in the > directions it also said not to stop. Does that make it too late for me > to continue? > I'm glad to see someone on the forum was cured from the flu, but has > anyone know anyone cured of something more serious? I mean it sound > good but is this real? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks Bob for the support but I'm still not sure this is the right thing to do. I only seen one cure from the posters and that was for the flu. How do we know we are not being tricked into killing ourselfs? I trust the theory behind it but would like hear from more life people that are having success with cures. Also once you get to 15 drops 3 x a day and go back to 6drops a day,,how long do you have to maintain that to be cured? I don't think I want to be tied to this my whole life. The book made it seem like a instant cure. Don't get me wrong I'm willing to work at this but again how long? > > > > I was very excited to try this with my brother that has Hep C and a > > very bad liver, hoping for a cure. I by the way have recently shown > > high liver enzymes. > > I started by myself to test it. My first dose was 4 drops mixed > with 8 > > drops of vinegar 2x that day. I didn't experience any nausea and > went > > up to 8 drops but with 16 drops of lemon juice and I gave my > brother 6 > > drops with 12 drops of lemon juice. > > We both got diarrhea and both we're sever and we felt very sick. > > I later found out that the drops for lemon and vinegar are > different. > > Is that why I had the problem? > > Anyway I was sacred off for a day and a half now and want to know > the > > best way to proceed with out feeling so horrible. Also I noticed in > the > > directions it also said not to stop. Does that make it too late for > me > > to continue? > > I'm glad to see someone on the forum was cured from the flu, but > has > > anyone know anyone cured of something more serious? I mean it sound > > good but is this real? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 There are thousands of cases of cures in Africa. Here we are experiencing different reactions due, we believe, to the fact that we live in a much more toxic world than those in Africa. We have poisoned air, food and water to deal with, besides all the chemicals in products we use, etc. So--it seems that people in third world countries are able to tolerate much higher doses right off the bat than us 'modern' living people can. It is never too late to go back onto MMS. Many people take breaks of a few days to a week when the effects have been strong. Remember, according to Jim Humble, the developer, that the nausea and diarrhea that you and your brother experienced is NOT from the MMS but from the die-off of pathogens that your body is unable to get rid of fast enough. So just start out slower. And make sure you are using enough of the acid to activate the MMS. If you only used 8 drops vinegar to 4 drops MMS, this was not enough to actually activate the MMS--which is why you didn't originally feel any effects. It is FIVE drops, or more, to one drop of MMS. If you are using MMS from the green bottle, the drops are large. If you are using an eye dropper for the acid then you should be using 8 drops of acid from an eye dropper to 1 drop of MMS. If you are using the same size green bottle and dropper cap for your acid, then it would be 5 drops acid to 1 drop MMS. The ratio is to be 5 to one, no matter which acid you use. You use more drops than 5 to one simply because the eye dropper is smaller than the green bottle dropper. The ratio is still 5 to 1, but because the eye dropper is smaller it takes 1.5 drops from an eye dropper to equal 1 drop from the green bottle--so this is why you use 8 drops from the eye dropper instead of 5. To be clear--if you have another green type bottle with the same size dropper cap for the acid, then the drops are 5 drops acid to 1 drop MMS. If you are using an eye dropper for the acid and the green bottle for the MMS, it is 8 drops acid from the eye dropper to 1 drop MMS from the green bottle. If the MMS is not activated by enough acid, or you don't wait the full 3 minutes to allow the acid to activate the MMS you are not getting the full benefit of MMS. You will be wasting your time and the MMS if you are not using enough acid and not waiting long enough for it to activate. Please re-read the second book by Jim Humble. It explains everything very clearly. Citric acid in a 10% solution is a stronger acid--meaning more activation--than vinegar or lemon juice. Start with just 2 drops of MMS, 16 drops of acid, wait 3 minutes, add juice without added vitamin C or plain water, and drink. You can do this twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening. If the 2 drops don't give you nausea or diarrhea, then the next day try 3 drops MMS, 24 drops acid, wait 3 minutes, add juice or water and drink. If this doesn't bother you go up to 4 drops the next day. If it DOES bother you (making you feel worse than you can tolerate) then drop back to 3 drops a day and stay there for 4 or 5 days before trying to increase to 4 drops again. By staying at the lower dose for a few days you will still be killing pathogens and you then should be able to tolerate a higher dose. If you still can't tolerate the higher dose, go back to the lower dose again. Just keep doing this until you finally reach 15 drops twice a day. Good luck. Samala, -------Original Message------- > I was very excited to try this with my brother that has Hep C and a > very bad liver, hoping for a cure. I by the way have recently shown > high liver enzymes. > I started by myself to test it. My first dose was 4 drops mixed with 8 > drops of vinegar 2x that day. I didn't experience any nausea and went > up to 8 drops but with 16 drops of lemon juice and I gave my brother 6 > drops with 12 drops of lemon juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 You all seem to need to go to the MDI list where MMS is discussed, testimonials are reported, and there are many people with more experience with MMS and some chemical people that can explain what is happening. The maintenance dose is suggested by Jim. He thinks taking it for life is fine, no problems. But as it has actually only been in use for 10 years no one can say for sure exactly what long term use can be. He does think, though, that effect is dependant on age, meaning that if you are younger than 40 - 50 years old that 6 drops of MMS twice a week is enough to keep any pathogens that you pick up in check. He thinks that if you are older than 50 your immune system is not strong enough to keep up with the pathogens we are daily exposed to so he suggests 6 drops daily. The choice is, naturally, yours. We are constantly exposed to pathogens. People around us are sick, we get chemicals in our food and water and air. The cleaning supplies we use are full of chemicals. Some people still go in and get flu shots, etc. If you have a super strong immune system because you are taking great care of yourself by eating right, exercising, taking plenty of supplements, drinking clean water, etc--then you probably don't need MMS at all. But if you are NOT that healthy, and your immune system is compromised in any way, then you can make good use of MMS. Again--the choice is always yours. Samala, -------Original Message------- I only seen one cure from the posters and that was for the flu. How do we know we are not being tricked into killing ourselfs? I trust the theory behind it but would like hear from more life people that are having success with cures. Also once you get to 15 drops 3 x a day and go back to 6drops a day,,how long do you have to maintain that to be cured? I don't think I want to be tied to this my whole life. The book made it seem like a instant cure. Don't get me wrong I'm willing to work at this but again how long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 According to Jim Humble If you get a reaction like diarhea or nausea or a stomach ache or some other ache or pain then the MMS is doing something.I think we are all very toxic . I think that even though we may not know we have a specific disease like LYME or AIDS we may have a problem developing. Then as we begin to take the MMS and have these reactions It is a signal to us that thew MMS is working. Doing something. If the reaction is too strong and unpleasant , cut back on the dose and give yourself some vitamin C to nutralize the dose of MMS you just took. I dont have a deadly disease that I know of that I am trying to cure. I have had an eye infection for over a year that alopathic and herbal remedies haven't helped. My eye is better. I dont know if its gone for good but Im still in the process of using the MMS orally to treat it. I have a couple of cysts on my head that are definately smaller.In the past I had a fatty liver , diabetes and stomach surgery. Those are the places i have felt pains from taking the MMS. The month before I began to take MMS I had had a breathing problem I felt I was gasping for breath -some sort of virus I presume .Though the syptom eased That was the first place I had a reaction to MMS the gasping feeling came back for several days then it was gone.I visualize this effect as if the MMS is seeking out the problem areas one by one and taking them on and destroying the pathogens and toxins . Only you can decide if MMS is what you want to pursue to improve your immune system and better your health. Do search the Web for other forums as well as this forum. read the book by Jim Humble You are right to feel wary of something that sounds too good to be true.There are those of us experimenting with this marvelous substance .You may want to wait to see how it goes with us. IN NCMars <ahipconcept@...> wrote: Thanks Bob for the support but I'm still not sure this is the right thing to do.I only seen one cure from the posters and that was for the flu.How do we know we are not being tricked into killing ourselfs?I trust the theory behind it but would like hear from more life people that are having success with cures.Also once you get to 15 drops 3 x a day and go back to 6drops a day,,how long do you have to maintain that to be cured?I don't think I want to be tied to this my whole life. The book made it seem like a instant cure. Don't get me wrong I'm willing to work at this but again how long?> >> > I was very excited to try this with my brother that has Hep C and a > > very bad liver, hoping for a cure. I by the way have recently shown > > high liver enzymes.> > I started by myself to test it. My first dose was 4 drops mixed > with 8 > > drops of vinegar 2x that day. I didn't experience any nausea and > went > > up to 8 drops but with 16 drops of lemon juice and I gave my > brother 6 > > drops with 12 drops of lemon juice.> > We both got diarrhea and both we're sever and we felt very sick. > > I later found out that the drops for lemon and vinegar are > different. > > Is that why I had the problem? > > Anyway I was sacred off for a day and a half now and want to know > the > > best way to proceed with out feeling so horrible. Also I noticed in > the > > directions it also said not to stop. Does that make it too late for > me > > to continue?> > I'm glad to see someone on the forum was cured from the flu, but > has > > anyone know anyone cured of something more serious? I mean it sound > > good but is this real?> >> Wilkins http//:www.juiceplus.com/+lw55887 The Children's Research Foundation Children 6-15 FREE for 3 years __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Thanks for all the advice, I feel better now and started back with 6 drops and doing fine. I did however tell my brother to stop till I see how it affects me. I don't want to hurt someone else. What is this MDI list so I can read this also? > > > > > > I was very excited to try this with my brother that has Hep C and > a > > > very bad liver, hoping for a cure. I by the way have recently > shown > > > high liver enzymes. > > > I started by myself to test it. My first dose was 4 drops mixed > > with 8 > > > drops of vinegar 2x that day. I didn't experience any nausea and > > went > > > up to 8 drops but with 16 drops of lemon juice and I gave my > > brother 6 > > > drops with 12 drops of lemon juice. > > > We both got diarrhea and both we're sever and we felt very sick. > > > I later found out that the drops for lemon and vinegar are > > different. > > > Is that why I had the problem? > > > Anyway I was sacred off for a day and a half now and want to know > > the > > > best way to proceed with out feeling so horrible. Also I noticed > in > > the > > > directions it also said not to stop. Does that make it too late > for > > me > > > to continue? > > > I'm glad to see someone on the forum was cured from the flu, but > > has > > > anyone know anyone cured of something more serious? I mean it > sound > > > good but is this real? > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilkins > http//:www.juiceplus.com/+lw55887 > The Children's Research Foundation Children 6-15 FREE for 3 years > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 You can go here, which is the home page, and join from that MDI_News/ Samala, -------Original Message------- Thanks for all the advice, I feel better now and started back with 6 drops and doing fine. I did however tell my brother to stop till I see how it affects me. I don't want to hurt someone else. What is this MDI list so I can read this also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I have been taking MMS for 3 weeks. I did one drop for a few days before going to 2. Now, at week 3, I am still only at 8 drops with citric acid. As far as your brother...every one has a different reaction and I would have him start on 1 drop for a few days and very slowly up it. He may not feel any " rock your world " kind of reaction but the ickies will be moving on out...just more slowly and gently. It won't make a lot of differnce if you take an extra 2 or 3 weeks to get to the higher dose but you may feel a whole lot better getting there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yep Trudy I know what you did wrong. Before you put the needle into the vial you have to draw back on the needle the amount of fluid you want in there. Then put the syringe into the vial and inject that air into the bottle. The fluid will not come out unless you put in the amount of air that you want out in serum. Make sense? So if you need 3mls of serum you must inject 3mls of air into the vial first. Then immediately pull back on the syringe and your syringe will fill up. Hugs,TeriMOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.From: "trudykinsey@..." <trudykinsey@...>Hcv < >Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 5:06:01 PMSubject: [ ] What did I do wrong? So I had to give myself my B-12 shot today. I thought I knew how but there is something I did wrong. I held the vial upside down. Had the syringe plunged all the way in to zero. Stuck the needle into vial and pulled back on syringe. Nada, a few drops is all. I tried probably 5-6 times and barely got 1 ml. Then I didn't understand how to stick ( where?) it is such a huge needle. I went into thigh but prolly under skin instead of into muscle. Why is this so damn hard? I used to give daily injections to a dog( diabetic).not to mention how I got this damn virus...I am having a hard time with all these injections. Do y'all know what I did wrong today? http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West http://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Oh Trudy honey, I wish there was something that I knew to help you. My shots changed due to shortage of the injection method I was using. So now I have 2 vials that have to be fixed and then injected. I let my doc know that I was in no way a medical person. I do construction. Nails are my pointy object of choice...not a damn needle. I called the Outpatient Care Center at my local hospital, same place I go for labs, and now I go every Friday morning to get my shot. The pharmacy mixes it and takes it to the nurses station in that dept. They give me the poison. So you might consider giving your local hospital a call and see if they have such a service. Maybe once would be enough to help you learn how to do it. Another option might be one of the home health care companies could help. Good luck sweetie!!! Ramona From: "trudykinsey@..." <trudykinsey@...>Hcv < >Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 6:06:01 PMSubject: [ ] What did I do wrong? So I had to give myself my B-12 shot today. I thought I knew how but there is something I did wrong. I held the vial upside down. Had the syringe plunged all the way in to zero. Stuck the needle into vial and pulled back on syringe. Nada, a few drops is all. I tried probably 5-6 times and barely got 1 ml. Then I didn't understand how to stick ( where?) it is such a huge needle. I went into thigh but prolly under skin instead of into muscle. Why is this so damn hard? I used to give daily injections to a dog( diabetic).not to mention how I got this damn virus...I am having a hard time with all these injections. Do y'all know what I did wrong today? http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 ""A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.comhttp://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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