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Try half a drop and eat some food before taking the AMMS. Wait a few days before starting the MMS again though--just to give your body a chance to recoup.

Samala,

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I have just started MMS and have only just tried one drop with both

times. I did this on an empty stomach. Both times I have had my

stomach fill up with gas and this has gone on for hours afterward, I

also get very dizzy for about 1 hour. Any ideas? Thanks.

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what did you use for an activator?

Lemon, lime, vinegar or Citric acid?

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of plisajohnsonSent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: [ ] Any thoughts on this reaction?

I have just started MMS and have only just tried one drop with both times. I did this on an empty stomach. Both times I have had my stomach fill up with gas and this has gone on for hours afterward, I also get very dizzy for about 1 hour. Any ideas? Thanks.__________ NOD32 2711 (20071207) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com

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You probably are putting the MMS into a stomach that is to alkaline.

As an acid (AMMS) to alkaline and you will get gass ad the alkaline will neutralize the acid.

Eat something first and you will create more acid in the stomach.

Ya'll can correct me if I'm wrong but this is what my chemistry teacher taught me. At least I think he did as that was some 45 years ago and I'm slept a couple of times since then:)

Okie

-- [ ] Any thoughts on this reaction?

I have just started MMS and have only just tried one drop with both

times. I did this on an empty stomach. Both times I have had my

stomach fill up with gas and this has gone on for hours afterward, I

also get very dizzy for about 1 hour. Any ideas? Thanks.

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I used Braggs ACV.Kathy Wenger <katmakiah@...> wrote: what did you use for an activator? Lemon, lime, vinegar or Citric acid? -----Original Message-----From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of plisajohnsonSent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: [ ] Any thoughts on this reaction? I have just started MMS and have only just tried one drop with both times. I did this on an empty stomach. Both times I have had my stomach fill up with gas and this has gone on for hours afterward, I also get very dizzy for about 1 hour. Any ideas? Thanks.__________ NOD32 2711 (20071207) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com

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I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no problem as long as I take it after dinner. I generally take it between 9 pm and midnight.

Taking it during the day doesn't work well for me.

==============================================

from Buhner's HepC book, page 18.

"The liver synthesizes complex chemicals and processes toxins the most when the production of bile is lowest, and vice versa. Because bile is needed for food processing, our bodies make a lot of it during the day and not very much at night. This is why a big meal at night isn't good for the body; the liver isn't designed to deal with it. Bile production is highest at 9 a.m. and lowest at 9 p.m. During the late evening and night, the liver converts to its other function, that of synthesizing complex chemicals and processing the day's accumulated toxins. This process peaks around 9 p.m. and is lowest at 9 a.m.

"People with liver disease are often so sensitive, that, when this cycle begins shifting at 3 a.m., they wake up from their sleep. At this time, the liver starts shifting from synthesis to bile production. When people with liver disease wake up at 3 a.m., they are often deeply depressed and, despite the general fatigue that HCV causes, can't go back to sleep. The mind begins to race, turning melancholic thoughts over and over. Melancholy was recognized by the ancients as a symptom of liver disease. It means, "Black bile" and comes in part from the liver's inability to synthesize many of the necessary hormones needed for well-being."

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Last night I took 22 drops at midnight, and sat up for an hour, no reaction so I did a second dose at 2. I was only able to finish 3/4 of it. So all in all I took 37 or so drops in 4 hours.

I woke this morning with no symptoms. Yippee! So during the day, I eat everything that I can that is good for me and my body. And during the night, I work with the liver and AMMS to rid my body of toxins. I don't know how complex AMMS is as a chemical, but I liked that idea that the body can work with chemicals better at night. Maybe not what he meant, oh well.

I'm going for 30 drops, 2 hours apart. I think I'll try 25 tonight.

HCV is said to be hard to eliminate, we shall see.

Kathy

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I also feel that you are on to something here. I can take MMS in the

evening, but I had a problem taking it in the morning and felt sick

all day. My wife had the same experience. Maybe it was too close to

breakfast? But the bile thing makes sense. I notice the bile taste

a lot with the MMS and my bile has been flowing much stronger lately

after taking it.

Dan

>

> I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no

> problem as long as I take it after dinner. I

> generally take it between 9 pm and midnight.

> Taking it during the day doesn't work well for

> me.

>

> ==============================================

> from Buhner's HepC book, page 18.

> " The liver synthesizes complex chemicals and

> processes toxins the most when the production of

> bile is lowest, and vice versa. Because bile is

> needed for food processing, our bodies make a

> lot of it during the day and not very much at

> night. This is why a big meal at night isn't

> good for the body; the liver isn't designed to

> deal with it. Bile production is highest at 9

> a.m. and lowest at 9 p.m. During the late

> evening and night, the liver converts to its

> other function, that of synthesizing complex

> chemicals and processing the day's accumulated

> toxins. This process peaks around 9 p.m. and is

> lowest at 9 a.m.

>

> " People with liver disease are often so

> sensitive, that, when this cycle begins shifting

> at 3 a.m., they wake up from their sleep. At

> this time, the liver starts shifting from

> synthesis to bile production. When people with

> liver disease wake up at 3 a.m., they are often

> deeply depressed and, despite the general

> fatigue that HCV causes, can't go back to sleep.

> The mind begins to race, turning melancholic

> thoughts over and over. Melancholy was

> recognized by the ancients as a symptom of liver

> disease. It means, " Black bile " and comes in

> part from the liver's inability to synthesize

> many of the necessary hormones needed for

> well-being. "

>

> =============================================

> Last night I took 22 drops at midnight, and sat

> up for an hour, no reaction so I did a second

> dose at 2. I was only able to finish 3/4 of it.

> So all in all I took 37 or so drops in 4 hours.

> I woke this morning with no symptoms. Yippee! So

> during the day, I eat everything that I can that

> is good for me and my body. And during the

> night, I work with the liver and AMMS to rid my

> body of toxins. I don't know how complex AMMS is

> as a chemical, but I liked that idea that the

> body can work with chemicals better at night.

> Maybe not what he meant, oh well.

>

> I'm going for 30 drops, 2 hours apart. I think

> I'll try 25 tonight.

>

> HCV is said to be hard to eliminate, we shall

> see.

>

> Kathy

>

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I think there's something to this night-time theory. I'd been taking AMMS for about 9 days before taking a three day break. (Will return to it tonight or tomorrow night.) The reason for the break is that I found doing a 10 drop dose in the morning often made me feel pretty lousy; I've had fewer problems with night-time dosing. Kathy Wenger <katmakiah@...> wrote: I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no problem as long as I take it after

dinner. I generally take it between 9 pm and midnight. Taking it during the day doesn't work well for me. ============================================== from Buhner's HepC book, page 18. "The liver synthesizes complex chemicals and processes toxins the most when the production of bile is lowest, and vice versa. Because bile is needed for food processing, our bodies make a lot of it during the day

and not very much at night. This is why a big meal at night isn't good for the body; the liver isn't designed to deal with it. Bile production is highest at 9 a.m. and lowest at 9 p.m. During the late evening and night, the liver converts to its other function, that of synthesizing complex chemicals and processing the day's accumulated toxins. This process peaks around 9 p.m. and is lowest at 9 a.m. "People with liver disease are often so sensitive, that, when this cycle begins shifting at 3 a.m., they wake up from their sleep. At this time, the liver starts shifting from synthesis to bile production. When people with liver disease wake up at 3 a.m., they are often deeply depressed and, despite the general fatigue that HCV causes, can't go back to sleep. The mind begins to race,

turning melancholic thoughts over and over. Melancholy was recognized by the ancients as a symptom of liver disease. It means, "Black bile" and comes in part from the liver's inability to synthesize many of the necessary hormones needed for well-being." ============================================= Last night I took 22 drops at midnight, and sat up for an hour, no reaction so I did a second dose at 2. I was only able to finish 3/4 of it. So all in all I took 37 or so drops in 4 hours. I woke this morning with no symptoms. Yippee! So during the day, I eat everything that I

can that is good for me and my body. And during the night, I work with the liver and AMMS to rid my body of toxins. I don't know how complex AMMS is as a chemical, but I liked that idea that the body can work with chemicals better at night. Maybe not what he meant, oh well. I'm going for 30 drops, 2 hours apart. I think I'll try 25 tonight. HCV is said to be hard to eliminate, we shall see. Kathy

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I'd try it with a different activator after a meal, preferrably at night. On a related note, Hulda says that ACV contains aflatoxins and should be avoided.

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Kathy,

I don't think it's a coincidence, I do better taking it at night as

well, and as of last night I'm up to 20 drops once a day. I have

noticed that by doing this, all of my new found energy is in the

morning now. I'm NOT a morning person, never have been, but I awake

with energy and this is a new thing for me beyond the Lyme all together.

This has to be the MMS because I never have experienced this before

taking it. And, too, I didn't have an ounce of energy before MMS to

even stir in the morning past leaning up to take my meds brought by my

husband.

I don't know why this is happening, but I like it, I have always

wanted to be more energetic in the mornings, instead of my normal

zombie state until about ten o'clock. I'm a night owl by nature, and

now I'm ready to hit the pillow by ten pm...this is novel for me as well.

Must be the MMS, and again, yes it's easier on my stomach too at night

before going to bed. I don't know why?!

Sherrie

>

> I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no

> problem as long as I take it after dinner. I

> generally take it between 9 pm and midnight.

> Taking it during the day doesn't work well for

> me.

>

> ==============================================

>

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Not sure what made my pH more acidic.

My guess would be kill off. Acid cells dying and being eliminated.

The first day I up my dosage, I'm acid.

When the kill off at that dose is accomplished, I go back to neutral.

Kathy

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of TovellSent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:55 AM Subject: ]Re: [ ] Any thoughts on this reaction?

Kathy,

So you think it's the MMS that made your pH more acidic???

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Sherrie,

As someone also with lyme, at that dose are you still having symptoms? (I am still at 4-5 drops 2x/day).

-- [ ] Re: Any thoughts on this reaction?

Kathy,

I don't think it's a coincidence, I do better taking it at night as

well, and as of last night I'm up to 20 drops once a day. I have

noticed that by doing this, all of my new found energy is in the

morning now. I'm NOT a morning person, never have been, but I awake

with energy and this is a new thing for me beyond the Lyme all together.

This has to be the MMS because I never have experienced this before

taking it. And, too, I didn't have an ounce of energy before MMS to

even stir in the morning past leaning up to take my meds brought by my

husband.

I don't know why this is happening, but I like it, I have always

wanted to be more energetic in the mornings, instead of my normal

zombie state until about ten o'clock. I'm a night owl by nature, and

now I'm ready to hit the pillow by ten pm...this is novel for me as well.

Must be the MMS, and again, yes it's easier on my stomach too at night

before going to bed. I don't know why?!

Sherrie

>

> I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no

> problem as long as I take it after dinner. I

> generally take it between 9 pm and midnight.

> Taking it during the day doesn't work well for

> me.

>

> ==============================================

>

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Oh-one more thing...how long have you been treating the lyme? And how long have you been on the MMS?

-- [ ] Re: Any thoughts on this reaction?

Kathy,

I don't think it's a coincidence, I do better taking it at night as

well, and as of last night I'm up to 20 drops once a day. I have

noticed that by doing this, all of my new found energy is in the

morning now. I'm NOT a morning person, never have been, but I awake

with energy and this is a new thing for me beyond the Lyme all together.

This has to be the MMS because I never have experienced this before

taking it. And, too, I didn't have an ounce of energy before MMS to

even stir in the morning past leaning up to take my meds brought by my

husband.

I don't know why this is happening, but I like it, I have always

wanted to be more energetic in the mornings, instead of my normal

zombie state until about ten o'clock. I'm a night owl by nature, and

now I'm ready to hit the pillow by ten pm...this is novel for me as well.

Must be the MMS, and again, yes it's easier on my stomach too at night

before going to bed. I don't know why?!

Sherrie

>

> I take AMMS 2 hours after I eat. I have no

> problem as long as I take it after dinner. I

> generally take it between 9 pm and midnight.

> Taking it during the day doesn't work well for

> me.

>

> ==============================================

>

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Chiming in here. I was taking my MMS in the evening 2 hours after

dinner too and sleeping better than ever and waking up with more

energy. I was up to 7 drops is all once a day.

Then I was reading the MMS site and it did say to take the MMS slowly

and twice a day. So last night I took 5 more drops after the 7 in the

morning. I was ok with it so this morning I took 6 drops planning on

taking the 7 drops tonight. Well OOPS............ I was miserable all

morning until after 2 PM. Took the drops at 6AM because I woke up and

could not go back to sleep. RARE!!! for me. I am also a night owl non

morning person. I ate some breakfast a few hours later trying to stop

the nausea. I HAD to work today and needed to feel better.

I would love to not have to take it twice a day. Trying to help with

the skin cancer and since reading it might not work for that I think I

will still go the course and see if it helps my other aches and pains .

The energy it is giving me is GREAT!! I have been living in a heavy

brain fog for a few years. Now maybe it is the MMS maybe it is the

thyroid booster I am taking. I was taking the thyroid for a month

before the MMS and I did notice skin changes for the good. But I was

not good at taking it like I should have been. Now I seem to be coming

out of the fog I am trying to be better.

To be honest I am SO BAD about taking meds. I just want to be left

alone. I am tired of fighting this crap. I sound ungrateful. Sorry.

Anyway I do think after the first bit of exhaustion with the low dose

of MMS I am now starting to feel more energy. I wonder if one dose a

day would be enough?

Maggie

>

> Kathy,

>

> I don't think it's a coincidence, I do better taking it at night as

> well, and as of last night I'm up to 20 drops once a day. I have

> noticed that by doing this, all of my new found energy is in the

> morning now. I'm NOT a morning person, never have been, but I awake

> with energy and this is a new thing for me beyond the Lyme all

together.

>

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> Chiming in here. I was taking my MMS in the evening 2 hours after

> dinner too and sleeping better than ever and waking up with more

> energy. I was up to 7 drops is all once a day.

>

> Then I was reading the MMS site and it did say to take the MMS

slowly

> and twice a day. So last night I took 5 more drops after the 7 in

the

> morning. I was ok with it so this morning I took 6 drops planning

on

> taking the 7 drops tonight. Well OOPS............ I was miserable

all

> morning until after 2 PM. Took the drops at 6AM because I woke up

and

> could not go back to sleep. RARE!!! for me. I am also a night owl

non

> morning person. I ate some breakfast a few hours later trying to

stop

> the nausea. I HAD to work today and needed to feel better.

>

> I would love to not have to take it twice a day.

I also was taking it only at night and LOVING the increase in focus

and energy during the day, and sleeping better at night. But when I

started adding a smaller dose in the morning it was like the benefits

suddenly stopped and I got mild stomache distress instead. After a

few days off, I'm trying it again with just the evening dose. I have

dinner at 6 or 7 and take the MMS around 10. Maybe some people or

some metabolisms do better with just a nighttime dose? I dunno but I

sure seem to.

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It might help if you get one of those timers that remind you when to take meds. Because then you can totally forget about it. I think part of the problem with hating to take meds is because you always have to think about it--is it time yet? Did I take it? How many more do I have to take today? Having them (the pills) sorted out in one of those weekly pill boxes, and a timer, takes all that out of your hands and out of your thoughts for a week at a time. It's easier that way, I think.

Samala,

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To be honest I am SO BAD about taking meds. I just want to be left

alone. I am tired of fighting this crap. I sound ungrateful. Sorry.

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