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In a message dated 8/31/01 6:12:42 PM GTB Daylight Time, helminger@...

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<< Does anyone have

any other suggestions? Anything at all? >>

Breastmilk first .A wash with eyebright tea might help.And I don't know if it

would sting the eyes(you try first) but I did use once a mix of goldenseal

drops in distilled water that I had boiled(about 6oz) that had about 1/8th

tsp of sea salt in it.

hth

sara

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In a message dated 8/31/01 6:52:22 PM GTB Daylight Time, helminger@...

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What would you think about using GSE in the eye?

S.

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well there might bet a nutribiotic eye drops formula at hfs.I know there is

one for ears.I would only use a GSE product that was specifiacally made for

the eyes as it probably has to be very diluted.Regardless try it on your eyes

first to see how it feels before giving it to the little one.

sara

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I checked Nutribiotics latest product catalog and no eye drops are listed.

Trimedica makes wonderful MSM eyedrops. They might be helpful. I looked at

the box and didn't see any age constraints for use.

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well there might bet a nutribiotic eye drops formula at hfs.I know there is

one for ears.I would only use a GSE product that was specifiacally made for

the eyes as it probably has to be very diluted.Regardless try it on your

eyes

first to see how it feels before giving it to the little one.

sara >>

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What would you think about using GSE in the eye?

S.

nnu29@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/31/01 6:12:42 PM GTB Daylight Time,

> helminger@...

> writes:

>

> << Does anyone have

> any other suggestions? Anything at all? >>

> Breastmilk first .A wash with eyebright tea might help.And I don't

> know if it

> would sting the eyes(you try first) but I did use once a mix of

> goldenseal

> drops in distilled water that I had boiled(about 6oz) that had about

> 1/8th

> tsp of sea salt in it.

> hth

> sara

>

>

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Shelby,

My son had the same thing, and while it was unsightly, it did go away all on

it's own, completely, one day shortly after his second birthday. - Midwife

told us that some babies are born with blocked tear ducts. - Leading to

stringy, yucky looking discharge, but that most clear up

spontaneously...without help.

~le

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I have a bottle of GSE right here and it says -specifically....Avoid All

Contact With Eyes.

~le

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> What would you think about using GSE in the eye?

> S.

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OUCH! I think it will sting, IMO. Kathy

What would you think about using GSE in the eye?

S.

nnu29@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/31/01 6:12:42 PM GTB Daylight Time,

> helminger@...

> writes:

>

> << Does anyone have

> any other suggestions? Anything at all? >>

> Breastmilk first .A wash with eyebright tea might help.And I don't

> know if it

> would sting the eyes(you try first) but I did use once a mix of

> goldenseal

> drops in distilled water that I had boiled(about 6oz) that had about

> 1/8th

> tsp of sea salt in it.

> hth

> sara

>

>

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I have been dealing with this problem for two and a half years! Here is

what I have found out; I am not sure if it will apply to every child. Also,

I am not a professional, so what I say is not gospel or a substitute for

medical care.

We were also told that our daughter should have surgery, when she was 14

months old. I really, really didn't want to subject her to this torment and

risk. The opthalmologist said that it was highly unlikely that the duct

would open spontaneously if it was still closed at 14 months. I pointed out

to my pediatrician that if the opthalmologist always does surgery at 12-14

months, he would have no way of knowing if this was true. The ped. said I

had a point, and told me that the surgery sometimes does not work anyway --

it helps for a while, then the ducts just close up again. this can happen

even when they insert tubes to keep them open.

I went online. Parents reported to me that their children's ducts had

eventually opened up on their own. Wootan, in _Take Charge of Your

Child's Health_, also maintains that the problem will go away on its own.

He told me via email that he has never had a case that didn't resolve,

although they have had to wait as long as 2.5 years.

Of course I wanted to help the process along, and so tried many of the

remedies suggested to me. Breastmilk was the most effective substance for

soothing irritation and clearing up minor infections. Massage did not help

us, and I don't believe that it is generally effective: the duct is inside

the nose, not in the corner of the eye, so you can't really massage it. We

went to see a dr. of Chinese medicine , who recommended some herbs, which

did help some. We also saw a homeopath, and tried several remedies, one of

which was also somewhat effective. I am not going to bother telling you the

specific herbs/remedies, because you really need to see a practitioner for

this stuff -- every case is different, and what helped my child would not

necessarily help anyone else.

Over the past year, the problem has improved quite a bit, but she still does

have a runny eye from time to time. I am pretty sure we made the right

decision, and that things will continue to improve. But it has been 2.5

years -- and it is still not 100 percent better. I would say that 85

percent of the time, the eye is fine; when she was a year old, it was

clogged up 85 percent of the time.

It is not an easy decision. I have an acquaintance whose son just had a

tube put in, and she said it was fine and untraumatic. His eye is

functioning well. She doesn't have to deal with this anymore. So that is

the other side of the story.

Note: If serious or recurrent infections develop, this can cause scar tissue

to build up, which can be a problem. If this happens, get help treating the

infections!

Good luck,

tte

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What I gave my dd when she had blockage problems as an infant was Argentum

nit 30C homeopathic remedy....let me write up what my book says about eye

inflammation in infants... _The Family Guide to Homeopathy: symptoms and

natural solutions_ by Dr Lockie.

" EYE INFLAMMATION: Usually a combination of a mild infection and blocked

tear ducts (see watering eyes); if tear ducts cannot be unblocked by gently

massaging skin on either side of nose, pediatrician will use a probe to

open them. Wipe eyes every 4 hours with Hypericum and Calendula solution

(5 drops of mother tincture of each in 0.25 liter (1/2 pint) boiled cooled

water) and give Argentum nit 6c every 2 hours for up to 10 doses. If

inflammation persists see your doctor; an eye swab may have to be

taken. In rare cases, eyes may be inflamed because of gonorrhea during

pregnancy. "

" WATERING EYES " : Continuous watering of the eyes is fairly rare and usually

the cause is blockage of the tear ducts due to infection or injury,

especially injury to the bridge or side of nose. If condition is not

relieved by the remedy given below, see your doctor; conventional treatment

is to syringe blocked duct, give antibiotics if infection is present, or

reestablish drainage from the eye into the nose by surgery. In newborn

babies the tear ducts sometimes fail to open; gentle massage up the side of

the nose to the inner corner of the eye may encourage them to do so, but

sometimes a probe is necessary. SPECIFIC REMEDY: To be given 4 times

daily for up to 7 days: * Tear duct infected, Silicea 6c "

Hope this helps a little....it is of course always best to see a classical

homeopath to improve general constitution if possible in recurring

illness. But the remedies above might help and are safe! There are

various places online that sell them or your local health food shop should.

, proud SAHmama of nursling n 2/12/99

and Hannah Rae, born 2/12/01

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