Re: Chlorine Dioxide Externally

[Guest guest]

There was a report on using MMS to get rid of mildew on special collections of rare library books, with no ill effects to workers, but great results in the book collection. The workers wiped down the surfaces of the books and used pipe cleaners to get down the spines, then finally the library fumigeted thw entire area with activated MMS. I cannot find the link, but it was on this list within the previous week, I believe.

--G.

[sPAM][ ] Chlorine Dioxide Externally

I'm interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to delay decomposition, spraying places where mildew is inclined to form (which in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well as on such plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for disinfectant purposes.Does anyone know what the procedure would be? I would imagine it would be to activate some MMS and then dilute it. But I wonder:

Would the optimal dilution be the same for a mixture to be used for washing as for spraying? Would food (or anything else) sprayed/washed with it retain any chlorine odor, and for how long? (I realize I could determine this myself fairly easily)

How long would it be usable from the time of activation? Are there circumstances under which an unactivated solution would be preferable , e.g.

toilets or other acidic environments

for longterm delayed release I've seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent mildew in libraries, and it indicated that the protection lasted a long time, but gave no quantities, instead referring to some product which is a bag you hang in the area.What one knows about MMS all indicates that it breaks down fairly quickly whether it encounters pathogens or not, so I don;t understand how any longterm protection could be possible externally either, once the ClO2 gas produced has dissipated or reacted.

[Guest guest]

Tovell wrote:

There was a report on using MMS to

get rid of mildew on special collections of rare library books, with no

ill effects to workers, but great results in the book collection. The

workers wiped down the surfaces of the books and used pipe cleaners to

get down the spines, then finally the library fumigeted thw entire area

with activated MMS. I cannot find the link, but it was on this list

within the previous week, I believe.

Yes, that's the article I referred to in the question.

I've

seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent mildew in

libraries, and it indicated that the protection lasted a long time,

but gave no quantities, instead referring to some product which is a

bag you hang in the area.

[Guest guest]

I just bumped the article about cleaning books in libraries with

chlorine dioxide.

>

> There was a report on using MMS to get rid of mildew on special

collections of rare library books, with no ill effects to workers,

but great results in the book collection. The workers wiped down the

surfaces of the books and used pipe cleaners to get down the spines,

then finally the library fumigeted thw entire area with activated

MMS. I cannot find the link, but it was on this list within the

previous week, I believe.

> --G.

>

> [sPAM][ ] Chlorine Dioxide

Externally

>

>

> I'm interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to

delay decomposition, spraying places where mildew is inclined to

form (which in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well

as on such plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for

disinfectant purposes.

>

> Does anyone know what the procedure would be? I would imagine it

would be to activate some MMS and then dilute it. But I wonder:

>

>

>

> a.. Would the optimal dilution be the same for a mixture to be

used for washing as for spraying?

> b.. Would food (or anything else) sprayed/washed with it retain

any chlorine odor, and for how long? (I realize I could determine

this myself fairly easily)

>

> c.. How long would it be usable from the time of activation?

> d.. Are there circumstances under which an unactivated solution

would be preferable , e.g.

> a.. toilets or other acidic environments

>

> b.. for longterm delayed release

>

> I've seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent

mildew in libraries, and it indicated that the protection lasted a

long time, but gave no quantities, instead referring to some

product which is a bag you hang in the area.

>

> What one knows about MMS all indicates that it breaks down fairly

quickly whether it encounters pathogens or not, so I don;t

understand how any longterm protection could be possible externally

either, once the ClO2 gas produced has dissipated or reacted.

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.frontierpharm.com/faqs.php

Check out the above site. They have products for cleaning with chlorine dioxide.

-- [ ] Chlorine Dioxide Externally

I'm interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to delay decomposition, spraying places where mildew is inclined to form (which in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well as on such plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for disinfectant purposes.Does anyone know what the procedure would be? I would imagine it would be to activate some MMS and then dilute it. But I wonder:

Would the optimal dilution be the same for a mixture to be used for washing as for spraying? Would food (or anything else) sprayed/washed with it retain any chlorine odor, and for how long? (I realize I could determine this myself fairly easily)

How long would it be usable from the time of activation? Are there circumstances under which an unactivated solution would be preferable , e.g.

toilets or other acidic environments

for longterm delayed release I've seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent mildew in libraries, and it indicated that the protection lasted a long time, but gave no quantities, instead referring to some product which is a bag you hang in the area.What one knows about MMS all indicates that it breaks down fairly quickly whether it encounters pathogens or not, so I don;t understand how any longterm protection could be possible externally either, once the ClO2 gas produced has dissipated or reacted.

[Guest guest]

Sharon wrote:

> I just bumped the article about cleaning books in libraries with

> chlorine dioxide.

>

What does that mean --bumped?

[Guest guest]

susan wrote:

http://www.frontierpharm.com/faqs.php

Check out the above site. They have products for cleaning

with chlorine dioxide.

OK, but can ANYBODY address the questions I asked? I want to figure

how to use MMS for these purposes. After all, I have enough for 90

bottles...

I'm

interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to delay

decomposition, spraying places where mildew is inclined to form (which

in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well as on such

plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for disinfectant

purposes.

Does anyone know what the procedure would be? I would imagine it would

be to activate some MMS and then dilute it. But I wonder:

Would the

optimal dilution be the same for a mixture to be used for washing as

for spraying?

Would food (or

anything else) sprayed/washed with it retain any chlorine odor, and for

how long? (I realize I could determine this myself fairly easily)

How long would

it be usable from the time of activation?

Are there

circumstances under which an unactivated solution would be preferable ,

e.g.

toilets or

other acidic environments

for

longterm delayed release

I've seen an article

about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent mildew in libraries, and

it indicated that the protection lasted a long time, but gave no

quantities, instead referring to some product which is a bag you hang

in the area.

What one knows about MMS all indicates that it breaks down fairly

quickly whether it encounters pathogens or not, so I don;t understand

how any longterm protection could be possible externally either, once

the ClO2 gas produced has dissipated or reacted.

[Guest guest]

Yeah, thank you! What does that mean? I have seen that used before and never understood what it meant.

-- Re: [ ] Chlorine Dioxide Externally

Sharon wrote:

> I just bumped the article about cleaning books in libraries with

> chlorine dioxide.

>

What does that mean --bumped?

[Guest guest]

Same here!

Ballady

> > I just bumped the article about cleaning books in libraries with

> > chlorine dioxide.

> >

>

>

> What does that mean --bumped?

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

susan wrote:

Yeah, thank you! What does

that mean? I have seen that used before and never understood what it

meant.

It must mean "posted the URL" or "re-posted the URL"

[Guest guest]

With 90 bottles, adequate time, you should be able to report back to the list as an expert.....with results that will answer any and/all of the questions below. I really do believe that you already know that no one on this list can adequately address your questions via first hand experience as they are just becoming acquainted with internal use. I also believe you have the intelligence to do the experiments. So in lieu of the borderline impertinent undertone you use when asking the questions we will all be better served by your sharing the hands on experience. Stop wondering, start doing. :)Case <chris@...> wrote: susan wrote: OK, but can ANYBODY address the questions I asked? I want to figure how to use MMS for these purposes. After all, I have enough for 90 bottles... I'm interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to delay decomposition, spraying places where mildew is inclined to form (which in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well as on such plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for disinfectant purposes. Does anyone know what the procedure would be? I would imagine it would be to activate some MMS and then dilute it. But I wonder: Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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[Guest guest]

OK you guys, I just typed " library " into the groups search

field and the first listing that came up was:

1861 Re: Chlorine Dioxide Mold and the Libraries

If you go to this post (ie: #1861) you can find the URL and the whole

article posted right there. In the notes at the end of the article

there is this:

6. Engelhard Corporation, 554 Ten Rod Road, North Kingstown, RI

02852, (800) 477-6071, ext. 11, is the sole source of Aseptrol™ gas

packets. Current costs for packets are $2.47 for a packet that covers

200 cubic feet and $8.90 for a packet covering 1,000 cubic feet.

[Note: Engelhard no longer supplies the Aseptrol packets, but they

are now available through boating supply stores for use in boat

houses, campers, boats, and summer homes. The distributor, Starbrite,

will not sell them for general use, because they have not been

approved for this by the EPA and other agencies. However, they will

give you the name of a marine supply store near you if you call them

at 1-800-327-8583 and ask for a place near you that carries

their " mildew control bags. " -Editor]

Dan

> > There was a report on using MMS to get rid of mildew on special

> > collections of rare library books, with no ill effects to

workers, but

> > great results in the book collection. The workers wiped down the

> > surfaces of the books and used pipe cleaners to get down the

spines,

> > then finally the library fumigeted thw entire area with

activatedMMS.

> > I cannot find the link, but it was on this list within the

previous

> > week, I believe.

>

> Yes, that's the article I referred to in the question.

> >

> > I've seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to

prevent

> > mildew in libraries, and it indicated that the protection

lasted a

> > long time, but gave no quantities, instead referring to some

> > product which is a bag you hang in the area.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Often 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide is used for spraying on

vegetables but the peroxide has to be diluted so that it will 3%. see:

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Arthritis/

Hydrogen_Peroxide_Therapy.htm

It will give you the quantity of Food Grade Peroxide to to the amount

of distilled water.

If you buy 3% Hydrogen Peroxide from a chemist it will have

preservative in, which is not good.

On 19/12/2007, at 9:27 AM, Case wrote:

> I'm interested in using MMS for such purposes as washing food to delay

> decomposition,  spraying places where mildew is inclined to form

> (which in the rainy season in Japan is anywhere organic, as well as on

> such plastics as audio tape) and just generally spraying for

> disinfectant purposes.

>

> Does anyone know what the procedure would be?  I would imagine it

> would be to activate some MMS and then dilute it.  But I wonder:

>

>

> • Would the optimal dilution be the same for a mixture to be used

> for washing as for spraying?

> • Would food (or anything else) sprayed/washed with it retain any

> chlorine odor, and for how long? (I realize I could determine this

> myself fairly easily)

> • How long would it be usable from the time of activation?

> • Are there circumstances under which an unactivated solution would

> be preferable , e.g.

> â—¦ toilets or other acidic environments

> â—¦ for longterm delayed release

> I've seen an article about the use of Chlorine Dioxide to prevent

> mildew in libraries, and it indicated that the protection lasted a

> long time,  but gave no quantities,  instead referring to some product

> which is a bag you hang in the area.

>

> What one knows about MMS all indicates that it breaks down fairly

> quickly whether it encounters pathogens or not,  so I don;t understand

> how any longterm protection could be possible externally either,  once

> the ClO2 gas produced has dissipated or reacted.

>

>

>

>