Morgellons Disease

[Guest guest]

What I find is interesting is that is supposed to be relatively new disease yet,

not yet medically recognized with only 100+ cases reported thus far. They have

however already set up a Morgellons Research Foundation in Oaklahoma.

Another suspicious thing is that the article says more than half are diagnosed

with Lyme, Lyme is itself not an " official " disease, and more often than less,

its misdiagnosed.

So could these people possibly be advanced, late stage Lyme patients.

Jack <jack.mill@...> wrote: Take a look at this, pretty scary stuff.

First thing I thought " I

would grab my Godzilla and Zapper and go to work.

Jack

Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas

Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT

Deborah Knapp

KENS 5 Eyewitness News

If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear

what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a

bizarre and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.

Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get

it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.

" These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black

and tarry, " said Ginger Savely, a nurse practioner in Austin who

treats a majority of these patients.

Patients get lesions that never heal.

" Sometimes little black specks that come out of the lesions and

sometimes little fibers, " said , Morgellons patient.

Web extra

• Exclusive interview: Ginger Savely talks more on Morgellons

Web extra

• Morgellons Research Foundation

While Savely sees this as a legitimate disease, there are many

doctors who simply refuse to acknowledge it exists, because of the

bizarre symptoms patients are diagnosed as delusional.

" Believe me, if I just randomly saw one of these patients in my

office, I would think they were crazy too, " Savely said. " But after

you've heard the story of over 100 (patients) and they're all — down

to the most minute detail — saying the exact same thing, that

becomes quite impressive. "

" Clearly something is physically happening here, " said Dr. Randy

Wymore, a researcher at the Morgellons Research Foundation at

Oklahoma State University's Center for Health Sciences.

Wymore examines the fibers, scabs and other samples from Morgellon's

patients to try and find the disease's cause.

" These fibers don't look like common environmental fibers, " he said.

The goal at OSU is to scientifically find out what is going on.

Until then, patients and doctors struggle with this mysterious and

bizarre infection. Thus far, the only treatment that has showed some

success is an antibiotic.

" It sounds a little like a parasite, like a fungal infection, like a

bacterial infection, but it never quite fits all the criteria of any

known pathogen, " Savely said

No one knows how Morgellans is contracted, but it does not appear to

be contagious. The states with the highest number of cases are

Texas, California and Florida.

The only connection found so far is that more than half of the

Morgellons patients are also diagnosed with Lyme disease.

For more information on Morgellons, visit the research foundation's

Web site at www.morgellons.org.

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results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have

medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

Take a look at this, pretty scary

stuff. First thing I thought " I

> would grab my Godzilla and Zapper and go to work.

>

> Jack

>

> Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas

>

> Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT

> Deborah Knapp

> KENS 5 Eyewitness News

>

>

>

> If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear

> what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a

> bizarre and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.

>

> Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to

get

> it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.

>

> " These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black

> and tarry, " said Ginger Savely, a nurse practioner in Austin who

> treats a majority of these patients.

>

> Patients get lesions that never heal.

>

> " Sometimes little black specks that come out of the lesions and

> sometimes little fibers, " said , Morgellons

patient.

>

>

> Web extra

> • Exclusive interview: Ginger Savely talks more on Morgellons

> Web extra

> • Morgellons Research Foundation

>

> While Savely sees this as a legitimate disease, there are many

> doctors who simply refuse to acknowledge it exists, because of the

> bizarre symptoms patients are diagnosed as delusional.

>

> " Believe me, if I just randomly saw one of these patients in my

> office, I would think they were crazy too, " Savely said. " But

after

> you've heard the story of over 100 (patients) and they're all —

down

> to the most minute detail — saying the exact same thing, that

> becomes quite impressive. "

>

>

>

> " Clearly something is physically happening here, " said Dr. Randy

> Wymore, a researcher at the Morgellons Research Foundation at

> Oklahoma State University's Center for Health Sciences.

>

> Wymore examines the fibers, scabs and other samples from

Morgellon's

> patients to try and find the disease's cause.

>

> " These fibers don't look like common environmental fibers, " he

said.

>

> The goal at OSU is to scientifically find out what is going on.

> Until then, patients and doctors struggle with this mysterious and

> bizarre infection. Thus far, the only treatment that has showed

some

> success is an antibiotic.

>

> " It sounds a little like a parasite, like a fungal infection, like

a

> bacterial infection, but it never quite fits all the criteria of

any

> known pathogen, " Savely said

>

> No one knows how Morgellans is contracted, but it does not appear

to

> be contagious. The states with the highest number of cases are

> Texas, California and Florida.

>

Had a mining partner, went to Sierra Leone where avg life

span is 39 yrs. There are about any kind of bug in their

water so locals know to boil everything. Buggers penetrate

any orifice, eyes, get in blood, do 1 or 2 evolutions to

a capsule shaped worm / maggot, take up residence about 1/4 "

under skin then erupt into boils that itch maddeningly.

Takes about 6 wks to get severe. Red 1/2 to 1 " dia &

can have overlapping boils. Only way treated is by lancing

there, let it bleed out. Meds are beyond means of locals

so haven't heard if any work.

Same process?

[Guest guest]

Joe:

It does sound like science fiction that is spreading like fire thru every alt

healt list. or when of those sudden alert Hoaxs. I've started receivng notice

from friends as well who are not on alt healt lists, all in the same week? The

headline news reports/stories are exactly the same, its only on the same 3 cties

vs reports from across America etc. etc.

Apparently, as you can see from the info below, it aint by any means, a NEW

disease as much as it is one that resurfaced in more populated areas. It sounds

like an opportunistic disease (parasites) that springs up from a very

compromised immune system or as you indicate, when there is an opportunity for

invasion of a human " host " .

BTW. Am including some info on problems with dentures.

http://www.the-o-zone.cc/clintrial01.html

Morgellons Disease Clinical Study

To read about this clinical study, click here

Denture Stomatitis (Denture Sore Mouth) Clinical Study

To read about this clinical study, click here

Morgellons Disease

1. Historical Background

At the turn of the last century, infectious diseases represented an important

cause of health morbidity and behavioral changes (Almeida & Lautenschlager,

2005). Neurosyphilis, for example, was relatively common at the time and often

led to the development of cognitive impairment and dementia. With the advent of

effective antibiotic treatment, the association between infectious diseases and

dementia became increasingly less frequent, although a resurgence of interest in

this area has taken place during the past 15 years with the emergence of

acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) and variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

(vCJD). This paper reviews the most frequent infectious causes of dementia,

including prion diseases, as well as infections caused by herpes virus, human

immunodeficiency virus (HIV), toxoplasmosis, cryptococcus, cytomegalovirus,

syphilis, borrelia and cysticercosis.

Sir Browne in 1629, described in " A Letter to a Friend " refers to a

condition, which is of interest to the pediatrician, but the nature of which has

apparently hitherto remained obscure. It is suggested that the disease called by

Browne ‘the Morgellons’ is one that that caused considerable interest in the

seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, known under a variety of names such as Les

Crinons, Masclous, Masquelons, from which it is suggested the name of Morgellons

is derived (Keynes, 1931; Kellett, 1935).

J.G. Wolf writing in 1789, described in his thesis the comedones for his M.D.

at Leipsig which, though guarded in the extreme, received such a review in the

1791 Journal de Medecine that the Morgellons should have been accepted by

mainstream medicine as a disease entity.

" .... With the help of the microscope these cinder-coloured animals may be made

out, having two horns, round eyes, a tail which is long, forked, with the

extremities, which are bent up, covered with hair. These worms are terrible to

look at " .

Bruguiéres (Bruguiéres, 1792) had occasion to study a case personally, and

believed that the little hairs which were elicited on rubbing the child were

capable of independent movement. He mentioned that the condition was known in

Provence as Masclous. Laënnec, however, writing in 1813, considered that the

parasitic nature of the disease was not yet proven.

2. Symptoms.

Most individuals with Morgellons disease report disturbing crawling, stinging,

and biting sensations, as well as non-healing skin lesions, which are associated

with highly unusual structures. These structures can be described as fiber-like

or filamentous, and are the most striking feature of this disease. In addition,

patients report the presence of seed-like granules and black speck-like material

associated with their skin.

Cases of this disease have been reported to this foundation by people living in

all fifty states in the U.S., as well as fifteen nations. The majority of

individuals reporting symptoms of Morgellons Disease reside in California,

Texas, and Florida. Distinct geographic " cluster " areas of this disease have

been noted near Los Angeles, San Francisco, San and San Diego, California

as well as near Houston, Dallas, Austin, and Round Rock, Texas.

Physicians treating patients with this disease, believe that it involves either

a novel organism, or a known organism acting in a novel way. This organism has

been difficult to identify, but many physicians report that it appears to infect

some individuals whose immune systems have been altered by Lyme Disease, also

known as Borreliosis. The percentage of people with Morgellons Disease, who also

suffer from Borreliosis, remains to be seen. One physician who has treated a

patient with symptoms of Morgellons Disease, believes that the etiologic agent

of this disease is Stenotrophomonas maltophilia, a resistant bacteria which can

contaminate water. Another physician believes that Morgellons Disease has a

viral etiology. It seems clear that, until public health agencies properly

investigate this situation, the cause of this emerging illness will remain the

subject of speculation.

Although skin symptoms are of particular interest to this foundation and are

extremely troubling to patients, they are also a vital clue that something is

terribly wrong with the body. More significant than skin symptoms, in terms of

the diminished quality of life of the individual with this illness, are symptoms

unrelated to skin, to include Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), Fibromyalgia (ME),

joint pain, and significant problems with concentration and memory.

The most significant element of this infection, appears to be the effect on

brain function. Mood disorders, such as depression and Bipolar Disorder, are

extremely common in this group, affecting well over half of all individuals

reporting symptoms of Morgellons Disease. Nearly all people with this illness

report extreme difficulty with mental concentration and short term memory.

The majority of children with this illness have ADHD, ODD, mood disorders, or

autism. Among a group of 47 children with this disease, thirty of them (64%)

have psychiatric illness, and five of them (10%) are autistic.

Several groups of extended families have contacted the Morgellons Foundation to

report that all family members became ill with symptoms of this disease, after

spending time together. One extended family of ten, from four different

households, has been ill with symptoms of this disease since spending only one

evening together, several months ago. All six members of another family are

infected, with three psychiatrically impaired children.

3. Countries Affected.

These families do not represent isolated situations, as more and more families

now report multiple infected members in a household, as well as psychiatrically

impaired children. It is unclear how this disease is being transmitted, and some

workers have postulated if these situations are due to human-to-human

transmission or some type of mutual exposure. Over 2,700 families are currently

registered with the Morgellons foundation; the true number of affected families

and individuals may be much higher. It is not restricted to the USA – reports

of infections have come from South Africa, the UK, Europe and other nations.

4. Current Treatment.

There is no recognised treatment that has brough relief to this group of

patients. Anti-bacterial, andti-fungal and anti-viral pharmaceuticals have had

limited effects or results. Morgellons has been associated with a variety of

causal agents, but to date there is not a treatment protocol that has worked

effectively. The majority of patients have reported that mainstream medicine has

labelled them as 'dillusional' and has abandoned them.

5. Trial Treatment.

Ozone has a wide anti- viral, bacterial, fungal and parasitical action. In

conjunction with leading ozone authorities in Cuba, Italy, UK and South Africa,

it has been suggested that treatment protocol based on the use of ozonated plant

extracts and ozone gas may be able to offer a way forward. While the medical and

general public may not be any closer to understanding this disease process or

'infective/causative' organism, at least there is a possible treatment protocol

to offer other sufferers and the medical community.

The trial uses ozonated oils, ozonated salt baths, and 'bagging' - essentially

this is where a limb or part of a limb is placed into a bag, and ozone pumped

into the bag for 20 - 40 minutes. A standardised ozone unit is recommended. The

ozonated oils are supplied by Dr n Holmes direct with to ensure uniform

conformity with the product.

If you are a Morgellons Disease sufferer, and you would like either more

information or take part in this trial

contact Dr n Holmes

aubug3 <aubug2@...> wrote: --

Had a mining partner, went to Sierra Leone where avg life

span is 39 yrs. There are about any kind of bug in their

water so locals know to boil everything. Buggers penetrate

any orifice, eyes, get in blood, do 1 or 2 evolutions to

a capsule shaped worm / maggot, take up residence about 1/4 "

under skin then erupt into boils that itch maddeningly.

Takes about 6 wks to get severe. Red 1/2 to 1 " dia &

can have overlapping boils. Only way treated is by lancing

there, let it bleed out. Meds are beyond means of locals

so haven't heard if any work.

Same process?

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices

and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All

info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold

harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find

here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your

results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have

medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

My sister in law is a retired nurse who is always first to let me know

immed. if anything is an internet hoax. I sent her info on this disease and

she

said she had just read about it in a medical journal -- so apparently until

anything else arises --- I am assuming it is real.

[Guest guest]

--- I read something about this and it rang like a hoax to me. I

didn't take it seriously.

In , " happydogmoon "

<happydogmoon@...> wrote:

>

> There was a news clip about this on this past Saturday and I

> noted in this article a tie in to autism so I thought I would post

> it...knowing this group, this is old news here. Our family does

not

> have this disease. Although not much is known about this they

> speculate it has something to do with Lymes. Anyway FYI. Robyn

>

> From the below link:

> Neurological function severely affected

> The peripheral nervous system is often affected by this disease,

but

> the most significant element of the infection, appears to be the

> effect on the central nervous sytem. Nearly all people with this

> illness report extreme difficulty with mental concentration and

short

> term memory. Mood disorders, such as depression and Bipolar

Disorder,

> are extremely common in this group of patients, affecting well over

> half of all individuals reporting symptoms of Morgellons Disease.

> Parents of children with Morgellons disease report that the

majority

> of these children have ADHD, ODD, mood disorders, or autism. It is

> estimated that 65% of these children have some form of psychiatric

> illness, and 10% have an autism spectrum disorder.

>

> http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=morgellons+disease & fr=FP-tab-web-

> t362 & toggle=1 & ei=UTF-

>

8 & u=www.morgellons.org/ & w=morgellons+disease & d=ZyGCcDmtM1nB & icp=1 & .int

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> =us

>

[Guest guest]

I would also be interested in this doctor's information.

Thank you.

Trish GoslingTricia E. Gosling

Colon Hydrotherapy, Quantum Biofeedback

The Longevity Med Spa

2251 E. Paris, S.E.

Grand Rapids MI 49546

cell: 616-481-9074

From: "asset2713" <asset2713@...>Reply- qxci-english qxci-english Subject: Morgellons diseaseDate: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:54:48 -0000>Ronda had mentioned there was a Dr. in OHio that specialized in this>disease. Can you email me to let me know where he is, I would be>interested. Thanks>tessa38@...>Tessa>>>>............................................>>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Overman, sburg OH

www.precisionherbs.com

Morgellons disease

Ronda had mentioned there was a Dr. in OHio that specialized in this disease. Can you email me to let me know where he is, I would be interested. Thankstessa38comcast (DOT) netTessa

[Guest guest]

Trish,

His name is Dr. Overman and his

clinic is in Ohio.

He works with people long distance as well as in person. The clinic

number is 330-276-4234. He is excellent at working with Morgellons

disease and has had some tremendous results.

If you need more information, please let

me know.

Have a blessed day,

Ronda

From: Tricia Gosling

[mailto:tegosling@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:25

AM

qxci-english

Subject: RE:

Morgellons disease

I would

also be interested in this doctor's information.

Thank

you.

Trish Gosling

Tricia E. Gosling

Colon

Hydrotherapy, Quantum Biofeedback

The Longevity Med Spa

2251 E. Paris, S.E.

Grand Rapids

MI 49546

cell: 616-481-9074

From: " asset2713 "

<asset2713 >

Reply- qxci-english

qxci-english

Subject:

Morgellons disease

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:54:48

-0000

>Ronda had mentioned there was a Dr. in OHio that specialized in this

>disease. Can you email me to let me know where he is, I would be

>interested. Thanks

>tessa38comcast (DOT) net

>Tessa

>

>

>

>............................................

>

>

[Guest guest]

/All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was going to surface

on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this strange pathogen, plant or

microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its existence with is over 300

years in the making. I have assisted three people in the past two years who have

Morgellons Disease. It is my belief (but, not based upon scientific facts as I

am not that well-studied on the subject) that Morgellons may be a live

genetically mutated hybrid (mutant) microbe that evolved through an early (in

scientific experimentation) research activity, e.g., in accidently combining

mold & bacteria species eventually used as some sort early form of pesticide. I

offer this suggestively only, because in each case I have studied there seems to

be a vacant field being resurfaced, plowed, or cultivated near to a victim, and

I am aware of some of the weird pesticide development processes studied by the

industry for use on agricultural produce today. Under a microscope this

microbe(?)/plantlife(?) appears as more a fiber-object, but on the skin it

definitely attacks, leaches, and burrows into the flesh causing what appears to

be a small infectious area. I assisted one woman who actually had picked several

out of her flesh and saved them in a bag for me. There are also " self-help "

victims groups forming as I recall during my studies. You are so right about

medical doctors and the lack of medical assistance they are rendering on this

issue. However, the medical profession is taking note and more is being learned

today. Some more ideas for people who might be interested in this subject:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/9264350/detail.html

Google: type " Morgellons Disease treating physicians "

or " morgellons disease medical research "

or " morgellons disease research "

or " morgellons disease genetic research "

or " morgellons disease molecular research "

Just a bit of motivational information for those who might be interested in

moving forward on this venture, and a little something because I have not had

the chance to contribute much of anything as of late.

Respectfully,

Doug Haney

EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: _Haney52@...

@...: antares4141@...: Wed, 19 Dec

2007 23:27:25 -0500Subject: [] Morgellons Disease

Has anyone heard of this disease?http://www.thenmo.org/fibers.htmThis is just

plain freaky, click on the images tab.How can the cdc ignore this?!!?How can the

main stream quacks call this psychological?What in the world could this possibly

be other than a fungus?[Non-text portions of this message have been

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Doug,

That was a great video, thanks!

On Dec 20, 2007 12:17 PM, Haney <_Haney52@...> wrote:

> /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was going to

> surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this strange pathogen,

> plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its existence with

> is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three people in the past

> two years who have Morgellons Disease.

[Guest guest]

ALL:

During a business trip to Phoenix in 2006 for a federal district court

power-point presentation (i.e., Mediation Conference) on microfungal diseases

related to human exposures, I suddenly felt a sharp pain on the left side of my

lower back that became extremely painful as I was being driven back to the

airport. At the airport the pain had intensified to the point that airport

security was ready to send me by ambulance to the VA Hospital. After three

attempts to board the plane for Sacramento and extreme nausea to the point of

several regurgitations, I was able to board and was closely monitored. Upon

landing in Sacramento I went directly to the VA hospital. Unfortunately

subsequent to this unfortunate event, I discovered that I have developed

Polycystic Kidney Disease. This disease is medically classified as a genetic

disease. However, I knew that that was not the case with me because no one in

my family history all the way back to my great-great grandparents (including

aunts and uncles, sisters and brothers, and cousins, etc.) has never, ever,

suffered with any type of kidney disorder. As a result of research into this

disease for presentation to the VA, I found an article relating to environmental

aspects that will be of major interest to all of you. My gift to you for

Christmas:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no2/miller.htm

Tell me now that the CDC and other federal agencies (and the medical community)

does not know the seriousness of microfungi/mycotoxin exposure medical

adversities in the process of serious disease!

Please let me know what your thoughts are on this subject should you read this

" peer-review " research document. Thank you.

Doug Haney

[Guest guest]

My neighbor who died had horrible trouble with the sensation of bugs crawling

under his skin. At the time, we didn't know what to make of it - we took it all

more seriously when he died, of course... (please excuse the black humor). His

grave marker really says, 'I told you I was sick.'

Have you been working with Iris on this? I know she has done a bit of inquiry

about it with the CDC.

~Haley

Haney <_Haney52@...> wrote:

/All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was going to

surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this strange pathogen, plant

or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its existence with is over 300

years in the making. I have assisted three people in the past two years who have

Morgellons Disease. It is my belief (but, not based upon scientific facts as I

am not that well-studied on the subject) that Morgellons may be a live

genetically mutated hybrid (mutant) microbe that evolved through an early (in

scientific experimentation) research activity, e.g., in accidently combining

mold & bacteria species eventually used as some sort early form of pesticide. I

offer this suggestively only, because in each case I have studied there seems to

be a vacant field being resurfaced, plowed, or cultivated near to a victim, and

I am aware of some of the weird pesticide development processes studied by the

industry for use on agricultural produce

today. Under a microscope this microbe(?)/plantlife(?) appears as more a

fiber-object, but on the skin it definitely attacks, leaches, and burrows into

the flesh causing what appears to be a small infectious area. I assisted one

woman who actually had picked several out of her flesh and saved them in a bag

for me. There are also " self-help " victims groups forming as I recall during my

studies. You are so right about medical doctors and the lack of medical

assistance they are rendering on this issue. However, the medical profession is

taking note and more is being learned today. Some more ideas for people who

might be interested in this subject:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/9264350/detail.html

Google: type " Morgellons Disease treating physicians "

or " morgellons disease medical research "

or " morgellons disease research "

or " morgellons disease genetic research "

or " morgellons disease molecular research "

Just a bit of motivational information for those who might be interested in

moving forward on this venture, and a little something because I have not had

the chance to contribute much of anything as of late.

Respectfully,

Doug Haney

EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: _Haney52@...

@...: antares4141@...: Wed, 19 Dec

2007 23:27:25 -0500Subject: [] Morgellons Disease

Has anyone heard of this disease?http://www.thenmo.org/fibers.htmThis is just

plain freaky, click on the images tab.How can the cdc ignore this?!!?How can the

main stream quacks call this psychological?What in the world could this possibly

be other than a fungus?[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

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I went to the website and watched the video. It is very interesting

indeed. I emailed the help address. They are asking for anything

that might help and I told them about chlorine dioxide a/k/a the

Miracle Mineral Supplement. I have another article on its use as

this product is not a new product. There are products on the market

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birds. You know I would love to here what others think about this

product. You are all so knowledgeable on this subject.

http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/oxine.htm

Chlorine DiOxide tablets:

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productId=392053\

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Home page: http://www.campmor.com

Sharon Hanson

>

> > /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

going to

> > surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this strange

pathogen,

> > plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

existence with

> > is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three people in

the past

> > two years who have Morgellons Disease.

>

[Guest guest]

That was dated 1997 Over Ten years ago!

Haney <_Haney52@...> wrote:

ALL:

During a business trip to Phoenix in 2006 for a federal district court

power-point presentation (i.e., Mediation Conference) on microfungal diseases

related to human exposures, I suddenly felt a sharp pain on the left side of my

lower back that became extremely painful as I was being driven back to the

airport. At the airport the pain had intensified to the point that airport

security was ready to send me by ambulance to the VA Hospital. After three

attempts to board the plane for Sacramento and extreme nausea to the point of

several regurgitations, I was able to board and was closely monitored. Upon

landing in Sacramento I went directly to the VA hospital. Unfortunately

subsequent to this unfortunate event, I discovered that I have developed

Polycystic Kidney Disease. This disease is medically classified as a genetic

disease. However, I knew that that was not the case with me because no one in

my family history all the way back to my great-great grandparents (including

aunts and uncles, sisters and brothers, and cousins, etc.) has never, ever,

suffered with any type of kidney disorder. As a result of research into this

disease for presentation to the VA, I found an article relating to environmental

aspects that will be of major interest to all of you. My gift to you for

Christmas:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no2/miller.htm

Tell me now that the CDC and other federal agencies (and the medical community)

does not know the seriousness of microfungi/mycotoxin exposure medical

adversities in the process of serious disease!

Please let me know what your thoughts are on this subject should you read this

" peer-review " research document. Thank you.

Doug Haney

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I posted a few months ago about this very topic. I suffer from the crawly

syndrome. My head, face, back, arms and legs. Use to keep me scratching

constantly. I should keep a diary, but I think this started to become very

apparant about 3 years ago or maybe a little less. Seems my first vivid

memory of these crawly bug feelings were when I moved into the trailer which

may be closer to two years ago.

For the last ten years or so have had verying degrees of itching in a

private area on my back side I'm going to be graphic so their is no

misinturpretation here, my anus. This has progressed to get worse and worse

over the years, starting with just the same crawling feeling followed by

intense itching that cannot be resisted. This over the years got worse and I

discoved by using very hot water (no soap) in this area I could get a lot of

relief from these symptos. So this might be effective on other parts of the

body also.

Than about three months ago I thought that this might not be inscts but

some type of fungus so I got a can of tinactin and sprayed the area

liberally. Relief was very fast, the inflamation went down and the itching

all but stopped as long as I kept up the treatment. If I stop for a weak or

more the symptoms slowly start comming back.

So if you do talk to anyone I would be very interested if either one of

these remedy's are helpful.

Hot water applied with a hot wash cloth

Tinactin.

Oh one more thing I have little nodules, they look like the clear fluid

filld bumps you sometimes get from ant bites. They also ithc a lot and the

tinactin and the hot water treatments are very effective.

Of the two the tinactin is far and away more effective.

On Dec 20, 2007 4:00 PM, Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote:

> I went to the website and watched the video. It is very interesting

> indeed. I emailed the help address. They are asking for anything

> that might help and I told them about chlorine dioxide a/k/a the

> Miracle Mineral Supplement. I have another article on its use as

> this product is not a new product. There are products on the market

> that treat water and for animals including chickens, sheep and

> birds. You know I would love to here what others think about this

> product. You are all so knowledgeable on this subject.

>

> http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/oxine.htm

>

> Chlorine DiOxide tablets:

>

> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?

> productId=392053\

> 87

>

> A two part chlorine dioxide product: (Aquimira)

>

> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?

> productId=763797\

> 9

>

> Home page: http://www.campmor.com

>

> Sharon Hanson

>

>

> >

> > > /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

> going to

> > > surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this strange

> pathogen,

> > > plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

> existence with

> > > is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three people in

> the past

> > > two years who have Morgellons Disease.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

& Doug,

The doctor that is head of the Morgellon disease organization is

right here out of Gainesville, GA. As a matter of fact he's at the

same hospital I did alot of work at. Definately a physician that

I've been meaning to meet with. There are alot of symptoms

concerning this disease that are too similiar from what many of you

experience. I believe both him and his wife, a nurse, both came down

with this disease.

, the symptoms you have mentioned sound idential to what I

recently experienced and as embarrassing as it is, I know how

annoying it can be. I tried the sporanox and some other antifungal

creams, they did work for about 4-5 hours. The hot water and soaking

gave it instant relief, but again only temporary. I figured the only

thing it could be was a yeast infection, first one in my life and

hopefully never experience it again. This is when I discovered the

power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

I started off taking the raw garlic by just swallowing to help my

stomach and intestinal tract. I'm sure it helps that way, but it did

not give me any relief from the pain, itching and swelling. What did

work is when I took either a half or a whole clove, cut up into pea

size pieces and holding it under the tongue. Why I did this I don't

know, but I figured this is what they do with nitro to get it right

into the bloodstream. You will experience a little bit of burning or

irritation, so just roll it around in your mouth and put it back

under your tongue when the burning subsides. Hold it in your mouth

for as long as you can then swallow it. All the symptoms to my

amazement went away within twenty minutes. I can now time it after

taking the garlic it will be gone, any inflamation anywhere, within

20 minutes. I did this for about 2 weeks, once a day.

My sister that had back pain from a surgery, was not able to stand

up straight, when I told her this within the hour her pain was gone

and I received a phone call and she was estatic.

A co-worker that had a lot of pain in one knee that was causing her

to limp I was speaking to on the phone and she took the garlic as I

was speaking with her. I timed it without telling her, I gave her 25

minutes and told her to get up and walk around and let me know how

it felt. Another nonbeliever made into a believer, it was gone and

remained gone to this day. She still takes it every now and then.

I wasn't sure if it was a natural pain killer at first or worked as

an antiflamatory. Either way it worked and I believe what it does is

reduces the inflamation that causes the pain and could lead to many

other serious infections. It's worth a try. But again, it doesn't

always work for everyone. If it's a yeast infection the garlic

should help. I tried taking enough of it to where it would get

throughout my body and when I would sweat you would smell, but I was

never able to get it to this point. None of the other employees I

work with ever smelled it on me.

Let me know,

KC

> > >

> > > Doug,

> > > That was a great video, thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > > On Dec 20, 2007 12:17 PM, Haney <_Haney52@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > > /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

> > going to

> > > > surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this

strange

> > pathogen,

> > > > plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

> > existence with

> > > > is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three

people in

> > the past

> > > > two years who have Morgellons Disease.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I got this from another discussion group and it sounds like something

that would work. KC I remember you telling me about the garlic and

I'm going to give it a try.

AN INSTANT CURE FOR MORGELLON'S DISEASE? *PIC*

Date: Sunday, 22 April 2007, 11:09 a.m.

Morgellon's Disease was named by one woman who wanted to give a name

to her son's symptoms. She named it after an ancient disease where

black hairs came out of the skin.

However, the Morgellon's disease of today is a totally NEW disease.

The fibers are red, blue, white and other colors.

These fibers DON'T BURN AT 1400 DEGREES F!!.

We now know that Morgellon's disease is caused by some kind of

nanotechnology. The fibers are grown by miniature machines. Maybe

they escaped from some laboratory. You can learn all about this from

this interview and from this article by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger

Naming Morgellon's after an ancient disease makes people dismiss it's

importance as a disease that is cause by modern technology. Therefore

I suggest that the name be changed to - " Nanomorg Disease " .

I found this cure for Morgellon's Disease (Nanomorg Disease) on

the net.

Cure for Morgellon's Disease (Nanomorg Disease)

Have a Bath with Sun powdered laundry detergent with Colorsafe Bleach

PLUS Alfalfa tablets.

These seem to combine to produce something that is lethal to the

machines. This cure for Morgellon's disease was discovered by

accident.

Read this wonderful testimonial from the person who discovered this

cure:

Mystery skin disease report….a positive treatment for Morgellons?

By Daisy Baleen

Posted on Health and Healing @

I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is

literally making it disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have

experimented with various " super baths, " filling the tub with hot

water and putting in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent,

laundry detergent, alcohol, etc….well, one day about four months

ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning

so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach

into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so

good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular

soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected.

Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash

that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I

returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed

and slid into the water for a soak.

Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the

sight of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey

specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY

THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things

" dissolving " in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an

alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the

tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water!

They were the cause of the migration of all things Morgellon out of

my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks,

black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface

of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN

ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are

all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a

research lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at

least know some relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this

miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to

his long-suffering Mommy!

I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it

creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like

CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally

can only be a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the

difference in the world for me.

I also tried putting St. s Wort in the bath along with it, with

even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered

laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the

migration of the specks.

God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.

It has cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to

post this information on the morgellons websites!!!!

(Editor's note: The author of this article attributed the success of

this treatment to the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the

success came from the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent

with colorsafe Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets.

Thank you to God for this wonderful, freak discovery!

Maybe we should all try this bath, even if we think we don't have

Nanomorg Disease, just in case we have a low level infection.

Please email me if you try this and tell me what results you get.

Please take photos of before and after if possible.

Please spread this information far and wide. It would be appreciated

if you added a link to www.relfe.com

This is when I discovered the

power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

This is when I discovered the

power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

KC

[Guest guest]

KC,

Thanks for the tips, I never knew males had problems with this also,

always thought it was a female thing. It's funny how when were ill we tend

to think our problems are somehow tied to the illness. I thought this was

some type of disorder that was uniqe to compremised individuals like myself.

I take it you don't have the crawly sensations with no apparant bugs on your

skin like I do. This seems to lessen but not go away when I treat the

itching in the private area. As irritating as this is exterally I can see

how it could easily cause serious problems if it were growing inside of me

or somehow systemic in my bloodstream. Course if that were true than you

would think their would be a simple test for this.

Friend of mine had this recipee that was actually quite tastey. He would

take a whole bunch of garlic and dice it up very fine, put it into a blender

with a whole lemon peel and all and some honey. The peel and lemon and honey

seemed to counter the overwhelming flavor of the garlic. But your sayin that

putting it under your toungue was what seemd to work for you. I just

mentioned this becuase it's a tasty way to get plenty of garlic in your

system. You can put the unused portion in the fridge and use it until it's

gone.

I'm not really very good about this. I would like to incorperate a moderate

amount of some of these herbs in my diet. Just don't have the patience to

prepare them

On Dec 20, 2007 10:49 PM, tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

> & Doug,

>

> The doctor that is head of the Morgellon disease organization is

> right here out of Gainesville, GA. As a matter of fact he's at the

> same hospital I did alot of work at. Definately a physician that

> I've been meaning to meet with. There are alot of symptoms

> concerning this disease that are too similiar from what many of you

> experience. I believe both him and his wife, a nurse, both came down

> with this disease.

>

> , the symptoms you have mentioned sound idential to what I

> recently experienced and as embarrassing as it is, I know how

> annoying it can be. I tried the sporanox and some other antifungal

> creams, they did work for about 4-5 hours. The hot water and soaking

> gave it instant relief, but again only temporary. I figured the only

> thing it could be was a yeast infection, first one in my life and

> hopefully never experience it again. This is when I discovered the

> power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

> then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

> preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

> has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

>

> I started off taking the raw garlic by just swallowing to help my

> stomach and intestinal tract. I'm sure it helps that way, but it did

> not give me any relief from the pain, itching and swelling. What did

> work is when I took either a half or a whole clove, cut up into pea

> size pieces and holding it under the tongue. Why I did this I don't

> know, but I figured this is what they do with nitro to get it right

> into the bloodstream. You will experience a little bit of burning or

> irritation, so just roll it around in your mouth and put it back

> under your tongue when the burning subsides. Hold it in your mouth

> for as long as you can then swallow it. All the symptoms to my

> amazement went away within twenty minutes. I can now time it after

> taking the garlic it will be gone, any inflamation anywhere, within

> 20 minutes. I did this for about 2 weeks, once a day.

>

> My sister that had back pain from a surgery, was not able to stand

> up straight, when I told her this within the hour her pain was gone

> and I received a phone call and she was estatic.

>

> A co-worker that had a lot of pain in one knee that was causing her

> to limp I was speaking to on the phone and she took the garlic as I

> was speaking with her. I timed it without telling her, I gave her 25

> minutes and told her to get up and walk around and let me know how

> it felt. Another nonbeliever made into a believer, it was gone and

> remained gone to this day. She still takes it every now and then.

>

> I wasn't sure if it was a natural pain killer at first or worked as

> an antiflamatory. Either way it worked and I believe what it does is

> reduces the inflamation that causes the pain and could lead to many

> other serious infections. It's worth a try. But again, it doesn't

> always work for everyone. If it's a yeast infection the garlic

> should help. I tried taking enough of it to where it would get

> throughout my body and when I would sweat you would smell, but I was

> never able to get it to this point. None of the other employees I

> work with ever smelled it on me.

>

> Let me know,

>

> KC

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

> > > going to

> > > > > surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this

> strange

> > > pathogen,

> > > > > plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

> > > existence with

> > > > > is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three

> people in

> > > the past

> > > > > two years who have Morgellons Disease.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

KC,

That's interesting that you know of this dr. Becuase this condition is

raising a lot of flags for me.

One if this has been an existing condition howcome it's just poping up on

the internet now. How come we havent' been reading about this condition for

years like we have with mcs, gws, sbs, and cfs?

This is curious.

Also the filimant thing is a little out their. Granted you would think it

would be hard to get the cdc's attention as well as tv news if these things

were being faked somehow.

Also I tried emailing their contacts at that page and my email was bounced.

So if indeed the cdc is working on this it will be very interested to see

what their findings are.

On Dec 20, 2007 10:49 PM, tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

> & Doug,

>

> The doctor that is head of the Morgellon disease organization is

> right here out of Gainesville, GA. As a matter of fact he's at the

> same hospital I did alot of work at. Definately a physician that

> I've been meaning to meet with. There are alot of symptoms

> concerning this disease that are too similiar from what many of you

> experience. I believe both him and his wife, a nurse, both came down

> with this disease.

>

> , the symptoms you have mentioned sound idential to what I

> recently experienced and as embarrassing as it is, I know how

> annoying it can be. I tried the sporanox and some other antifungal

> creams, they did work for about 4-5 hours. The hot water and soaking

> gave it instant relief, but again only temporary. I figured the only

> thing it could be was a yeast infection, first one in my life and

> hopefully never experience it again. This is when I discovered the

> power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

> then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

> preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

> has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

>

> I started off taking the raw garlic by just swallowing to help my

> stomach and intestinal tract. I'm sure it helps that way, but it did

> not give me any relief from the pain, itching and swelling. What did

> work is when I took either a half or a whole clove, cut up into pea

> size pieces and holding it under the tongue. Why I did this I don't

> know, but I figured this is what they do with nitro to get it right

> into the bloodstream. You will experience a little bit of burning or

> irritation, so just roll it around in your mouth and put it back

> under your tongue when the burning subsides. Hold it in your mouth

> for as long as you can then swallow it. All the symptoms to my

> amazement went away within twenty minutes. I can now time it after

> taking the garlic it will be gone, any inflamation anywhere, within

> 20 minutes. I did this for about 2 weeks, once a day.

>

> My sister that had back pain from a surgery, was not able to stand

> up straight, when I told her this within the hour her pain was gone

> and I received a phone call and she was estatic.

>

> A co-worker that had a lot of pain in one knee that was causing her

> to limp I was speaking to on the phone and she took the garlic as I

> was speaking with her. I timed it without telling her, I gave her 25

> minutes and told her to get up and walk around and let me know how

> it felt. Another nonbeliever made into a believer, it was gone and

> remained gone to this day. She still takes it every now and then.

>

> I wasn't sure if it was a natural pain killer at first or worked as

> an antiflamatory. Either way it worked and I believe what it does is

> reduces the inflamation that causes the pain and could lead to many

> other serious infections. It's worth a try. But again, it doesn't

> always work for everyone. If it's a yeast infection the garlic

> should help. I tried taking enough of it to where it would get

> throughout my body and when I would sweat you would smell, but I was

> never able to get it to this point. None of the other employees I

> work with ever smelled it on me.

>

> Let me know,

>

> KC

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

> > > going to

> > > > > surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this

> strange

> > > pathogen,

> > > > > plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

> > > existence with

> > > > > is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three

> people in

> > > the past

> > > > > two years who have Morgellons Disease.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

A less " stinging " way to do garlic. DIce it up and put it into some

organic olive oil. LEt it sit for a little while then use it as part of

salad dressing, over cooked pasta etc. The bite will not be as bad but do

NOT make a lot and let it sit was garlic in oil over a period of time will

turn rancid.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, robert christ wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:20:24 -0500

> From: robert christ <antares4141@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] Re: Morgellons Disease

>

> KC,

> Thanks for the tips, I never knew males had problems with this also,

> always thought it was a female thing. It's funny how when were ill we tend

> to think our problems are somehow tied to the illness. I thought this was

> some type of disorder that was uniqe to compremised individuals like myself.

> I take it you don't have the crawly sensations with no apparant bugs on your

> skin like I do. This seems to lessen but not go away when I treat the

> itching in the private area. As irritating as this is exterally I can see

> how it could easily cause serious problems if it were growing inside of me

> or somehow systemic in my bloodstream. Course if that were true than you

> would think their would be a simple test for this.

>

> Friend of mine had this recipee that was actually quite tastey. He would

> take a whole bunch of garlic and dice it up very fine, put it into a blender

> with a whole lemon peel and all and some honey. The peel and lemon and honey

> seemed to counter the overwhelming flavor of the garlic. But your sayin that

> putting it under your toungue was what seemd to work for you. I just

> mentioned this becuase it's a tasty way to get plenty of garlic in your

> system. You can put the unused portion in the fridge and use it until it's

> gone.

> I'm not really very good about this. I would like to incorperate a moderate

> amount of some of these herbs in my diet. Just don't have the patience to

> prepare them

>

>

> On Dec 20, 2007 10:49 PM, tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

>

>> & Doug,

>>

>> The doctor that is head of the Morgellon disease organization is

>> right here out of Gainesville, GA. As a matter of fact he's at the

>> same hospital I did alot of work at. Definately a physician that

>> I've been meaning to meet with. There are alot of symptoms

>> concerning this disease that are too similiar from what many of you

>> experience. I believe both him and his wife, a nurse, both came down

>> with this disease.

>>

>> , the symptoms you have mentioned sound idential to what I

>> recently experienced and as embarrassing as it is, I know how

>> annoying it can be. I tried the sporanox and some other antifungal

>> creams, they did work for about 4-5 hours. The hot water and soaking

>> gave it instant relief, but again only temporary. I figured the only

>> thing it could be was a yeast infection, first one in my life and

>> hopefully never experience it again. This is when I discovered the

>> power of raw garlic. This is the only thing that worked. For days,

>> then weeks until it went away. Now I use it every now and then as a

>> preventative and reducing inflamation from bursitus (sp) that also

>> has disappeared which was an extra benefit that I was not expecting.

>>

>> I started off taking the raw garlic by just swallowing to help my

>> stomach and intestinal tract. I'm sure it helps that way, but it did

>> not give me any relief from the pain, itching and swelling. What did

>> work is when I took either a half or a whole clove, cut up into pea

>> size pieces and holding it under the tongue. Why I did this I don't

>> know, but I figured this is what they do with nitro to get it right

>> into the bloodstream. You will experience a little bit of burning or

>> irritation, so just roll it around in your mouth and put it back

>> under your tongue when the burning subsides. Hold it in your mouth

>> for as long as you can then swallow it. All the symptoms to my

>> amazement went away within twenty minutes. I can now time it after

>> taking the garlic it will be gone, any inflamation anywhere, within

>> 20 minutes. I did this for about 2 weeks, once a day.

>>

>> My sister that had back pain from a surgery, was not able to stand

>> up straight, when I told her this within the hour her pain was gone

>> and I received a phone call and she was estatic.

>>

>> A co-worker that had a lot of pain in one knee that was causing her

>> to limp I was speaking to on the phone and she took the garlic as I

>> was speaking with her. I timed it without telling her, I gave her 25

>> minutes and told her to get up and walk around and let me know how

>> it felt. Another nonbeliever made into a believer, it was gone and

>> remained gone to this day. She still takes it every now and then.

>>

>> I wasn't sure if it was a natural pain killer at first or worked as

>> an antiflamatory. Either way it worked and I believe what it does is

>> reduces the inflamation that causes the pain and could lead to many

>> other serious infections. It's worth a try. But again, it doesn't

>> always work for everyone. If it's a yeast infection the garlic

>> should help. I tried taking enough of it to where it would get

>> throughout my body and when I would sweat you would smell, but I was

>> never able to get it to this point. None of the other employees I

>> work with ever smelled it on me.

>>

>> Let me know,

>>

>> KC

>>

>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> /All: I was wondering when this phenomena " disease " was

>>>> going to

>>>>>> surface on " Sickbuildings. " Studies or interest in this

>> strange

>>>> pathogen,

>>>>>> plant or microbe, depending upon who you are discussing its

>>>> existence with

>>>>>> is over 300 years in the making. I have assisted three

>> people in

>>>> the past

>>>>>> two years who have Morgellons Disease.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

a/All:

You are right, 1997. What is extremely important about the connection between

Polycystic Kidney Disease and environmental microbial exposures (esp., exposures

to molds) is that this disease has always been associated strictly with

genetics. However, this is a study that is based upon research relating certain

of bacteria and molds; Aspergillus, Alternaria, Fusarium (i.e., endotoxicosis &

mycotoxicosis related to excretements of aflatoxin, fumonisin, trichothecenes,

etc.) as Polycystic Kidney Disease " causation factors. " I really am not

concerned with the date of this particular document

(ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/EID/vol3no2/adobe/miller.pdf) as it falls into the the

direct scope of the " New Frontier " of molecular sciences research, and the

findings and analysis of the researchers involved is impeccable. Please keep in

mind that this peer-review research was published at a time when " mold exposures

and health " were at a " high " priority with the CDC.

It was only in 2000, that the CDC formally denounced the research of the

original Cleveland research into Idiopathic Pulmonary Hemosiderosis &

Stachybotrys (CDC MMWR March 10, 2000 / 49(09);180-4 at

http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4909a3.htm). This came at a time when

over 11,000 mold cases were surfacing in litigation nationally. It is ironic to

me that this " Polycystic Disease " document has not been equally discredited as

it specifically relates microfungi to a very a serious health complication. As

Ruth Etzel, PhD, M.D., assessed it in her review with Mark Moran (now with CNN)

in WebMD on July 26, 2000,

" Tom Sinks, PhD, a CDC epidemiologist, says that when the agency responds to an

urgent request for an investigation, its mission is to rapidly assess a

situation, not to do long-term research. " We do not have the luxury in these

situations to do the most exquisite type of research, " he tells WebMD. " Our

purpose is not to start something we can't finish. "

" Sinks says the CDC recognizes the link between mold and human health, and urges

people to take preventive action when there is water damage in the home. But

regarding a connection between stachybotrys and hemosiderosis, the evidence is

too weak to justify policymaking, he says. "

" That conclusion generated controversy about the way the CDC handled the case.

Ruth Etzel, MD, an epidemiologist formerly with the CDC who headed the original

study, says the agency's review of the work is " dead wrong " and that the CDC has

sought to bury the connection between mold and disease. "

" Normally, when a new idea is presented, you do more work and test it further in

other places, " says Etzel, who says she left the CDC as a result of the

controversy and is now director of the division of epidemiology and risk

assessment at the food safety and inspection service of the USDA. " What happened

here was that instead of moving forward, a decision was made to put a stop to

our work. "

She says the current scientific consensus on the dangerous health effects of

mold stems largely from the Cleveland study. " Previously, most physicians

thought of mold as quite innocuous, " she tells WebMD. " We were able to focus on

mold in a way that the medical world had never done before. "

(http://www.ehw.org/Healthy_House/HH_Toxic_Mold.htm).

The point of all of this is that the " Polycystic Kidney Disease " document points

directly to studies in medical mycology that force the medical community to view

microfungi exposures as a serious kidney disease process and not specifically

related to a genetic condition. In fact, we already are aware of the huge amount

of research demonstrating clearly that fungal microbes/mycotoxins are able to

mutate genetic coding in the liver to form deadly cancer cells.

The document I have offered demonstrates clearly that molds are extremely

dangerous to organs other than the liver under certain conditions... we then

read that they are equally dangerous to people with cancers, e.g., breast, lung,

and others. I would suggest that everyone visiting or resident on

" Sickbuildings " chat board download and present a copy of this document to their

medical doctor, family, friends, or anyone else who they can think of.

Wishing you and your family the very best Christmas and New Years.

Doug Haney

EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: _Haney52@...

@...: kmtown2003@...: Thu, 20 Dec

2007 15:20:31 -0800Subject: RE: [] Morgellons Disease

That was dated 1997 Over Ten years ago! Haney

[Guest guest]

I have this & have come to the conclusion it's from my moldy house &

belongings. I agree...these fibers have to be fungal.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I can't thank you enough for this post. I ahve been dealing w/these

fibers for 2 yrs. that I know of. Even went to a dr. that treats

Morgs; took pics of my skin full of all these colored fibers & black

specs. They're all over my home, as well. I'm going to try this bath,

as I've tried everything to get rid of this, w/o success. SO, thank

you again for the great post, I'm SO appreciative!

Hugs, Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl have you been doing the MMS without it working on this disease?

I'm curious because I have a systemic fungus infection and I'm

wondering if the MMS is killing the fungus.

I'd also like to know if you have luck with this treatment if you care

to share. And does anyone want to venture why it works for this

disease.

Best regards,

Sharon

>

> I can't thank you enough for this post. I ahve been dealing w/these

> fibers for 2 yrs. that I know of. Even went to a dr. that treats

> Morgs; took pics of my skin full of all these colored fibers & black

> specs. They're all over my home, as well. I'm going to try this

bath,

> as I've tried everything to get rid of this, w/o success. SO, thank

> you again for the great post, I'm SO appreciative!

> Hugs, Cheryl

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

I was thinking this was the MMS discussion group. My mistake but I

would try the bath if it were me.

I heard on another website that 90% of people with Morgellons Disease

also have Lyme disease but I'm not sure if this is true or not.

Cheryl the reason the discussion group for the Miracle Mineral

Supplement are so interested in this cure is because it is a bleach

product that worked similar to how the chlorine dioxide works (MMS).

To learn more about the MMS go to www.miraclemineral.org.

Best regards,

Sharon

> >

> > I can't thank you enough for this post. I ahve been dealing

w/these

> > fibers for 2 yrs. that I know of. Even went to a dr. that treats

> > Morgs; took pics of my skin full of all these colored fibers &

black

> > specs. They're all over my home, as well. I'm going to try this

> bath,

> > as I've tried everything to get rid of this, w/o success. SO,

thank

> > you again for the great post, I'm SO appreciative!

> > Hugs, Cheryl

> >

>