Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 At 09:04 PM 1/29/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Dear listmates, I have been on the list for about nine monhs now and I have learned so much . However , I do not know everything. I recently obtained a prescripton for my son for dmsa. The doctor says to give it 4xaday and 200mg a dose. ISN'T this too much? This, of course, depends on who you ask. If you'd like to know what Andy recommends, it is here: /files/Andy_dose_sched Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Hey Ballady, As a fellow lymie, my opinion is that you should stay at that high dose for up to six months, just like any other lyme treatment modality. You are supposed to be symptom free for about 6 months (because of the long incubation period) before stopping any other kind of treatment. I would do the same with MMS. Then lower to a maintenance dose 1x/day. Just my 2 cents. -- [ ] Dosing I'm a bit unclear about dosing. I have been increasing one drop a day and am now at 18 drops taken in 2 doses a day and plan to just keep increasing day to day. I know JH says the dose should be upped if you have a serious illness, but upped to what? And after that max dose is determined how long do you stay on it before going to the maintenance dose? The feeling I get is that much of this is arbitrary, but I wonder what other Lymies, or others with some type of illness, are doing. Of course the other factor is that even with a particular illness there are different variables person to person. Open to all thoughts on this. I will post this on Lyme strategies as well. Ballady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks , but how do we know where the ceiling is? I am wondering if I should go higher or just stay at this present dose. I think I read somewhere that JH recommended 30 drops 4/X a day for serious illness. I'll have to try to find that source. Have you read anything like this as well? Ballady > > Hey Ballady, > > As a fellow lymie, my opinion is that you should stay at that high dose for > up to six months, just like any other lyme treatment modality. You are > supposed to be symptom free for about 6 months (because of the long > incubation period) before stopping any other kind of treatment. I would do > the same with MMS. Then lower to a maintenance dose 1x/day. > > Just my 2 cents. > > > -- [ ] Dosing > > I'm a bit unclear about dosing. I have been increasing one drop a day > and am now at 18 drops taken in 2 doses a day and plan to just keep > increasing day to day. I know JH says the dose should be upped if you > have a serious illness, but upped to what? And after that max dose is > determined how long do you stay on it before going to the maintenance > dose? > > The feeling I get is that much of this is arbitrary, but I wonder what > other Lymies, or others with some type of illness, are doing. Of > course the other factor is that even with a particular illness there > are different variables person to person. > > Open to all thoughts on this. I will post this on Lyme strategies as well. > > Ballady > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 That seems like an awful lot. Especially to me who is only on 3-4 drops per dose. I thought 15 drops 2x/day was max. But what do I know?!? I would go with what feels right to you intuitively. Just make sure to get your antioxidants in there somehow. BTW, congratulations on getting to such a high dose. For someone with lyme, that is great! You must be feeling very well. Do you ever get symptoms anymore? P.S. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful. I am still struggling at 3-4 drops, like I said before. -- [ ] Dosing > > I'm a bit unclear about dosing. I have been increasing one drop a day > and am now at 18 drops taken in 2 doses a day and plan to just keep > increasing day to day. I know JH says the dose should be upped if you > have a serious illness, but upped to what? And after that max dose is > determined how long do you stay on it before going to the maintenance > dose? > > The feeling I get is that much of this is arbitrary, but I wonder what > other Lymies, or others with some type of illness, are doing. Of > course the other factor is that even with a particular illness there > are different variables person to person. > > Open to all thoughts on this. I will post this on Lyme strategies as well. > > Ballady > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 <ballady4@...> wrote: > > I'm a bit unclear about dosing. I have been increasing one drop a day > and am now at 18 drops taken in 2 doses a day and plan to just keep > increasing day to day. < I need to correct me if I get a little off on this but you either go to 15 drops, if you weigh around 150 pounds, or you go to 3 drops per 25 pounds of body weight, and I think it's to a maximum of 30 drops. Then when you have reached that level and have no reactions to it, you test it by doing it twice within an hour. After, that, you go back down to 6 drops a few times weekly. Not for anything would I do the maximum dose of this for 6 months every day, despite my enthusiasm for MMS. It is just too harsh. Daddybob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Yep, that's right. But it's not a maximum of 30 drops. I don't think he ever said that in relation to size. When he talks about people using the 15 drop dose he does say never go higher than 25. But then when someone on the other list asked him about taking it according to size, and that they figured they'd need 32 drops, Jim said "yes, that's right". Soooooo--again, it's mostly experimental. I would suppose if a person were large, they'd just have to work up to how many ever drops they thought they needed and then see how they reacted to that. Samala, -------Original Message------- I need to correct me if I get a little off on this but you either go to 15 drops, if you weigh around 150 pounds, or you go to 3 drops per 25 pounds of body weight, and I think it's to a maximum of 30 drops. Then when you have reached that level and have no reactions to it, you test it by doing it twice within an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks Daddy Bob but I'm still a bit confused about this. Already I'm doing more for my bodyweight (per your message below)and I started out doing 2 divided doses instead of 1 per day. I have an email somewhere from JH where he recommends MMS by IV for Lyme patients; thus, getting more into the system, and I'm sure I saw the 30 drops 3 to 4/X a day somewhere ...still looking. However, I don't want to OD on this! :-)Maybe I've been too enthusiastic. I'm thinking now that maybe I will drop down to 1 dose a day and back up to 10 drops, increasing to 15, if able, and then try that twice within the hour, as you suggest. You also say: >Then when you have reached that level and have no reactions > to it, you test it by doing it twice within an hour. > After, that, you go back down to 6 drops a few times weekly. By this do you mean after you do it one time, twice within an hour, the next day you drop back to maintenance dose? If not, how long do you do the " twice within an hour dose " ? Sorry if I'm being too anal about this but I do wish there was more definitive info. Thanks for taking the time, Ballady > > > > I'm a bit unclear about dosing. I have been increasing one drop a day > > and am now at 18 drops taken in 2 doses a day and plan to just keep > > increasing day to day. < > > I need to correct me if I get a little off on this but you > either go to 15 drops, if you weigh around 150 pounds, or you go to 3 > drops per 25 pounds of body weight, and I think it's to a maximum of > 30 drops. Then when you have reached that level and have no reactions > to it, you test it by doing it twice within an hour. > > After, that, you go back down to 6 drops a few times weekly. Not for > anything would I do the maximum dose of this for 6 months every day, > despite my enthusiasm for MMS. It is just too harsh. > > Daddybob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ballady- I hope will jump in here with better answers than I can give, since she's the one who's been in direct contact with JH. I'm just concerned that you're going to overdo it, and the consensus of opinion backed by experience is that MMS will go along not bothering you too much, then WHAMMO it knocks you for a loop. It's just happened to me, I've just posted about my problems at 16 drops, but more has happened. This time my digestive system has been knocked out of kilter. I've had some heartburn, gas and digestive issues for a couple of day now and am reduced to eating oats and raw buttermilk this morning to set things a-right again, also have raw kefir in the making. Don't worry I'm fine, but it is annoying. I can see where this could be much rougher on some people though. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Thanks Daddy Bob, I'm sorry to hear you are having these problems. I may herx as well but my intuitive feeling is that the reason I am not experiencing diarrhea, nausea, etc.... is that I spent such a long time detoxing and such with the salt/c protocol prior to embarking on MMS. I think I'm entering this in a pretty healthy state, in spite of the Lyme. I may back down to one dose a day, though, and increase from there ... accordingly. Thanks again for your thoughts on this. Ballady > > Ballady- > > I hope will jump in here with better answers than I can give, since > she's the one who's been in direct contact with JH. I'm just concerned that > you're going to overdo it, and the consensus of opinion backed by experience > is that MMS will go along not bothering you too much, then WHAMMO it knocks > you for a loop. > > It's just happened to me, I've just posted about my problems at 16 drops, > but more has happened. This time my digestive system has been knocked out of > kilter. I've had some heartburn, gas and digestive issues for a couple of > day now and am reduced to eating oats and raw buttermilk this morning to set > things a-right again, also have raw kefir in the making. Don't worry I'm > fine, but it is annoying. I can see where this could be much rougher on some > people though. > > Daddybob > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 > 2:14 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Hi All, I am totally new to this site and learning about the AP treatment. I've only recently discovered this treatment in Canada. I am curious if anyone has experienced skin irritations when taking Minocin 100mg 3 times per day  MWF ( thought I would scratch my skin off...even the bottom of my feet itched). Needless to say I stopped taking it because it was driving me crazy....yikes! I want to stay with the AP program because I absolutely refused to take the other drugs. Thanks ________________________________ From: Beth Fletcher <kbf23@...> rheumatic Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 2:29:40 PM Subject: RE: rheumatic Dosing  I was on 100 mg MWF for about three months, then went to 200 mg MWF, and finally 200mg daily.  I saw no improvement in my symptoms until I started daily.  I'm seeing some results now!  Had I known this, I would have risked the herx and started off on the daily regimen. From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1comcast (DOT) net> Subject: RE: rheumatic Dosing rheumatic@grou ps.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:58 AM MWF 100MGM for 2 weeks then MWF 200 MGMS AFTER 2 WEEKS. This is my opinion. Cooky From: rheumatic@grou ps.com [mailto:rheumatic@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Val Armienti Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:53 AM rheumatic@grou ps.com Subject: rheumatic Dosing  Hi everyone, I am confused!! Are we saying that 200mg of Minocin a day to (5 days on two day off) start with is a good protocal or MWF 200mg? I lost you guys on what you were trying to state would be better to start with. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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