Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 > > > of them in my waistband and the other tucked in my the middle of my > bra - this one is just red & tender, but the abdomen ones are > horrible brown holes the largest of which is 1.5cm across & the top > of my skin has burnt off - strangely it does not hurt. I had the > zapper for about 2.5 hours in this position. > > I would appreciate any replies re the burns & use of ozonator to help > and for other things. Yeah I have a scar from doing just that also. I would only use the copper pipes for your hands. Use tens pads gel electrodes for soft skin areas of the body. There are all types available. Corey approved devices http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Conductive_Slippers_p/dcr-sz-slippers.htm http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Gel_T_E_N_S_Pads_for_Zappers_p/dcr-sz-gel-pads.h\ tm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah I have a scar from doing just that also. I would only use the copper pipes for your hands. Use tens pads gel electrodes for soft skin areas of the body. There are all types available. Corey approved devices http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Conductive_Slippers_p/dcr-sz-slippers.htm http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Gel_T_E_N_S_Pads_for_Zappers_p/dcr-sz-gel-pads.h\ tm I was just getting together an order to the above & then noticed that they do not ship internationally. I currently buy from .net/com but they are not the cheapest unfortunately. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 > > Yeah I have a scar from doing just that also. I would only use the > copper pipes for your hands. Use tens pads gel electrodes for soft > skin areas of the body. There are all types available. > > Corey approved devices > > http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Conductive_Slippers_p/dcr-sz-slippers.htm > > http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Gel_T_E_N_S_Pads_for_Zappers_p/dcr-sz-gel-pads.h\ tm > > > I was just getting together an order to the above & then noticed that they > do not ship internationally. I currently buy from .net/com but they > are not the cheapest unfortunately. > > Val > Here's some that ship anywhere. http://www.tensproducts.com/ Unfortunately I can't order any without a prescription because I live in the U.S. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & q=tens+pads+UK & btnG=Google+Search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 , I'm a little confused because you said that the ozonator caused a huge mycotoxin release in your home that caused you to leave your dream home. But you say that you use the ozonator only to remove mycotoxins. I don't understand this exactly. Could you not then have used the ozonator to remove the mycotoxins from your home? Loni carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: -All the things that I attempted to clean, except for some books and files, had been thoughly washed. i don't think I had a big spore problem, just mycotoxin- as i said- I do not recomend it for trying to kill a mols colony- just the mycotoxin that is so dificult to clean any other way. I bought an air zone. You don't want it too strong or it can damage items- just use it longer if necessary- it is important that the area be sealed so no air gets in or out. karen -- In , Loni Rosser <loni326@...> wrote: > > I wanted to do that in a seperate room or even A storage area but How strong doe the ozonater have to be? The sales adds on the internet I don't trust. I read that one that put out 100-500 ppm should kill mold. I ordered a packet from EPA. Do you think it would kill mold on paper if I opened file drawers up? I remember the couch incident-that was horrible. I can't see me soaking items in bleach. Thanks for the input. I want to purchase the right one. Loni > > carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: > Yes, I had a powerfull ozonator that I used to try and kill the > moldy mess hiding in couches that my husband had brought into our > antique shop- the ozone may or may not have killed the ozone- but > overnight it released enough toxin to almost kill me and contaminate > everything. I have been using an ozonator in a separate- closed off > room in my rental for a year- and it definitly de-contaminated > everything very well except for things in closed boxes. The walk in > closet I used for UV light experiments-It destroyed most things > except metal- soaking in very strong bleach worked, but also wears > everything out and makes it white- and was not as good as ozone-- The > vulpex soap in de-natured alcohol worked well also- a long soak of > dark clothes in Vulpex worked OK- but is expensive. > - In , Loni Rosser <loni326@> > wrote: > > > > , You say that ozone was responsible for contaminating your > belongings. Then you say it was best way to decontaminate your > belongings? How powerful does an ozonater half to be to kill mold? I > guess you put them in a seperate area. Loni > > > > carondeen <kdeanstudios@> wrote: Replying to my own question- > Calcium hydroxide is a type of lime, > > used in making drugs like cocaine- makes me wonder if big brother > is > > taging my google searches- the monoethlamine part I can't get > > figured out but if adds to the lists of articles I have read that > > different cleaning techniques are necessary for different > mycotoxins- > > what will clean mine will not clean yours for sure > > > > > > > > > > I find this very interesting- with reguards my many experiments > in > > > cleaning my belongings. Where ozone was partly responsible for > > > contaminating many belonging when I tried to kill the mold with > > > ozone, thus causing a massive mycotoxin release, ozone treatment > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Perhaps, but untill I found this site, I did not know what was going on, people thought I was crazy because they felt nothing when they were in my house-I had moved into the house 11 years before- allready sick and sensitized from a major exposure in NY- It was a very very old home- and I fixed many leaks when I lived there- and spent every penny renovating- also the upstairs bathroom had a cronic leak that was only discovered when the ceiling collapsed, and the insurance paid for a major- re-do, and I believe at that point I had addressed the mold issues in the house -but I never had for someone of my level of re-activity- which I never understood- or why I had been sick for 14 years- untill I started doing research ,trying to come back from the dead, AND FOUND THIS SITE- WITH ALL ITS WONDERFULL PEOPLE AND RESOURCES FOR ME TO REGAIN MY HEALTH- I now feel better than I have in 14 years. I sold the house as is, the inspector found another small pocket of mold that I had never found- they said it was OK, they were planning a major renovation. It was difficult to find a rental that I could breathe in- but I finally did. I don't think I would have regained my health living in an old home with tons of work still to do Rosser <loni326@...> wrote: > > , I'm a little confused because you said that the ozonator caused a huge mycotoxin release in your home that caused you to leave your dream home. But you say that you use the ozonator only to remove mycotoxins. I don't understand this exactly. Could you not then have used the ozonator to remove the mycotoxins from your home? > Loni > > carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: > -All the things that I attempted to clean, except for some books and > files, had been thoughly washed. i don't think I had a big spore > problem, just mycotoxin- as i said- I do not recomend it for trying > to kill a mols colony- just the mycotoxin that is so dificult to > clean any other way. I bought an air zone. You don't want it too > strong or it can damage items- just use it longer if necessary- it > is important that the area be sealed so no air gets in or out. > karen > -- In , Loni Rosser <loni326@> > wrote: > > > > I wanted to do that in a seperate room or even A storage area but > How strong doe the ozonater have to be? The sales adds on the > internet I don't trust. I read that one that put out 100-500 ppm > should kill mold. I ordered a packet from EPA. Do you think it would > kill mold on paper if I opened file drawers up? I remember the couch > incident-that was horrible. I can't see me soaking items in bleach. > Thanks for the input. I want to purchase the right one. Loni > > > > carondeen <kdeanstudios@> wrote: > > Yes, I had a powerfull ozonator that I used to try and kill the > > moldy mess hiding in couches that my husband had brought into our > > antique shop- the ozone may or may not have killed the ozone- but > > overnight it released enough toxin to almost kill me and > contaminate > > everything. I have been using an ozonator in a separate- closed > off > > room in my rental for a year- and it definitly de-contaminated > > everything very well except for things in closed boxes. The walk > in > > closet I used for UV light experiments-It destroyed most things > > except metal- soaking in very strong bleach worked, but also wears > > everything out and makes it white- and was not as good as ozone-- > The > > vulpex soap in de-natured alcohol worked well also- a long soak of > > dark clothes in Vulpex worked OK- but is expensive. > > - In , Loni Rosser <loni326@> > > wrote: > > > > > > , You say that ozone was responsible for contaminating your > > belongings. Then you say it was best way to decontaminate your > > belongings? How powerful does an ozonater half to be to kill mold? > I > > guess you put them in a seperate area. Loni > > > > > > carondeen <kdeanstudios@> wrote: Replying to my own question- > > Calcium hydroxide is a type of lime, > > > used in making drugs like cocaine- makes me wonder if big > brother > > is > > > taging my google searches- the monoethlamine part I can't get > > > figured out but if adds to the lists of articles I have read > that > > > different cleaning techniques are necessary for different > > mycotoxins- > > > what will clean mine will not clean yours for sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find this very interesting- with reguards my many > experiments > > in > > > > cleaning my belongings. Where ozone was partly responsible for > > > > contaminating many belonging when I tried to kill the mold > with > > > > ozone, thus causing a massive mycotoxin release, ozone > treatment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Try the OZX-300U at www.enaly.com. Blessings! Arthur 888-533-7007 www.BestZapper.com www.BestWithoutDrugs.com Ozonator Another question: Does anyone know of cheaper alternative to Dr. 's ozonator? I need one for water and olive oil. It is pricy and wanted to check out another source. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Hi, This sounds great but the price for one of these things is very high! Does anyone know if there is a way to make one yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 > > Hi, > This sounds great but the price for one of these things is very high! Does anyone know if there is a way to make one yourself? ==>, I would be cautious about ozonating anything. You get plenty of oxygen on my program with: 1) vitamin C which increases the body's production of hydrogen peroxide; 2) vitamin E which increases oxygen in the body; 3) niacin is also an oxgenator and 4) good saturated fats increase oxygen levels. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 , DH bought the latest two, and just plugged them in to my surprise...that's when I found out he was tired of fixing the old ones. The old ones we had were by Alpine, but they are pricy. They do more than ozonate though. I'll have to get the info. from him, on the new ones. In Christ, Ava > > Ava, > What ozonater do you use and how much does it cost? > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I bought a cheap one from Hong Kong on ebay for $51.00. I only use it once in a while and it's powerful enough for my small room. Ira > > Ava, > What ozonater do you use and how much does it cost? > thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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