Guest guest Posted December 22, 2000 Report Share Posted December 22, 2000 Personally, I don't empower viruses. I think hepatitis viruses are the result of liver damage and not the causative factor. In any case, my friend Tom, who was one of the first people I've known to fully recover from full blown, one-foot-in-the-grave AIDS, had been told by his doctors that if he didn't die of AIDS, he was going to need a liver transplant. He never had the transplant, but did, out of curiousity, subsequently go for a liver biopsy which revealed he now has a perfectly healthy liver. All Tom did, after stopping all meds and firing his doctors, was to educate himself about health and disease and take control of his own health through such simple things as Natural Hygiene and Rebouind Exercise. See <A HREF= " http://ehealth.htmlplanet.com " >Planet Health</A> for more on this approach which appears to work for 100% of those who have tried it. It's really a shame that most of us have such faith in doctors and drugs that we don't want to hear about do-it-yourself health. Other than here, I know of no groups where this can be discussed openly. The newsgroup misc.health.aids was originally set up for uncensored information sharing, but has been taken over by the mainstream HIV goons. Why is everyone so sure a drug is the answer? From what I've seen, drugs are the problem. Ed In a message dated 12/21/2000 7:22:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, bobcook75@... writes: > From: bobcook75@... > Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:cures for AIDSegroups " >cures for AIDSegroups </A> > cures for AIDSegroups > >> Also if you aware of any, considered to be in remission for an > extended period. I would also be highly interested to know > if you have any knowledge of reversing cirrhoses, and if this > has ever been found to be a fact based on liver biopsy studies > in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2000 Report Share Posted December 22, 2000 In a message dated 12/21/2000 7:22:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, bobcook75@... writes: > From: bobcook75@... > Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:cures for AIDSegroups " >cures for AIDSegroups </A> > cures for AIDSegroups > > I read a post you had written regarding PCR negative > status in 80 patients treated in Kenya. > > It is my understanding that it is not that difficult to > accomplish a negative PCR with some viral diseases. However, this > only representative of low nondectable levels and no reflection > of actual current infection status on the cellular level.. > > Would you please take the time to add any current updated > comments on the status of those eighty individuals. In short > I am asking is ozone therapy something which needs to be > continued indefinitely. What are the follow up treatment schedules > like, if this is the case. And if follow up treatment schedules are > individualised, what test are use to make a determination for such. > Also if you aware of any, considered to be in remission for an > extended period. I would also be highly interested to know > if you have any knowledge of reversing cirrhoses, and if this > has ever been found to be a fact based on liver biopsy studies > in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2000 Report Share Posted December 23, 2000 > Personally, I don't empower viruses. I think hepatitis viruses are the > result of liver damage and not the causative factor. Hi Ed, thanks. From five years of investigation, I feel confident, ,myself is saying HCV is a virus, but it is not an important point to be debated. And its activities in the process and replication as a foreign protein, led up to radical damage and drainage away from the host of vital mineral and AA. Not unlike the way a common cold, does damage. In any case, my friend > Tom, who was one of the first people I've known to fully recover from full > blown, one-foot-in-the-grave AIDS, had been told by his doctors that if he > didn't die of AIDS, he was going to need a liver transplant. Was this due to viral hepatitis, or from toxic damage from HIV drugs? I am curious because in alcoholic cirrhosis, if you removed the toxin, alcohol, the damage is well known to reverse. I have never heard of anyone, so far reversing liver cirrhoses, caused by HBV or HCV. But old age nursing homes are full of older people with both of those, infections, and certainly are not dying from it or in need of a transplant, either. Other than here, I know > of no groups where this can be discussed openly. The newsgroup > misc.health.aids was originally set up for uncensored information sharing, > but has been taken over by the mainstream HIV goons. That is ashame. I am sorry to here that. I think the HCV list on the net have learned a great deal from the experiences shared by those from the Rethinking Aids Community or at least to say have followed the lead from HIV circles of how pharmaceutical companys managed to weld such control and instigate fear.. Five years ago, no one could even begin to suggest on a, hepatitis discussion list, that, the damage could be controlled and reversed, using common sense, alternative protocols. The skeptics and allopathically oriented would come out of the wood work and shout and ridicule, until the entire scene was unhealthy and counterproductive. Since that time, in a manner of speaking with most individuals, on hepatitis list. Those that want to share expereinces, websites etc on alternatives do so with little interruption. (only by a few and they are generally recognized as someone with an attitude problem and largely ignored.) As a matter of fact, most of the list no longer post with a sense of urgency or wait with baited breath for the latest in drug research. Some of the list that orginally only posted stuff from that industry, and with much to do about anger tried to censor other.., rarely even do it at all now. I am sorry to here it is different in HIV circles. but of course most of those dxed with HCV go straight out and start with interferon or interferon with riba. also Thanks for posting a response to me. Looks to be very quite on this list. I would guess, because the ones on it are smart enough not to empower, as you mentioned, by worrying, debating and stressing on the subject of " support group " or life style type issues. > You know the hepatitis list, are full of fat people. It is funny how so many always leave out the part about steatohepatitis and over focus on viral damage. Even the ones that use alternatives and then tell others " been there, done that " didn't work for me. Well.... Thanks again Ed. Merry Christmas to you and your family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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