Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I don't know if this has been discussed or posted before, but just read it in the link I posted for . " The MMS solution is 28% sodium chlorite in distilled water. You can produce chlorine dioxide with a single drop, when an " activator " of vinegar, lemon juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid is added. The latter two activators are recommended for people with Lyme disease. " The link again is: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no- miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/, thought it might be useful info to those with Lyme disease. In Christ, Ava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 This doctor claims a cure for Lyme disease Check it out http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ rich F --- ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: > I have chronic, late-stage Lyme disease (32 years). > The three things > that have helped the most over the years are salt/c, > UT and MMS. > > I feel that with UT my system seems more in balance > and I also notice > more energy. I definitely notice less susceptibility > to colds and flu > from people around me, which was always very > problematic, so I think > my immune system has definitely strengthened. Prior > to UT, I had to > wear a mask when people in my home became ill > because not only would I > get sick, but very sick and it took a long time to > recover. Probably > these illnesses " flared " the Lyme disease. Also, I > tend toward chronic > diarrhea and UT evened that out as well. (btw: if > you're a person who > tends toward constipation, I always have a BM within > minutes of > drinking the urine and I have heard others state > this as well). > > I now only do one maintenance dose of salt/c, a > morning catch of urine > and I pulse MMS. This seems to work well for me. > > Here is a UT forum if you are interested: > > urine_therapy/ > > Ballady > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have been doing urine therapy (UT) for > about 8 months. > > > > > > Ballady > > > > > > -- > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hi Rich, I am a big fan of Dr. Shoemaker. He stands up to power and in spite of government organizations trying to marginalize his work he has managed to have breakthrough after breakthrough on biotoxin disease. And he is traditional medicine. He tries to get everything approved through the insurance companies so that those of us with biotoxin disease don't have a lot of out of pocket expenses. In the 1990's Dr. Shoemaker was featured on the popular program mystery diagnosis for the pfiesteria outbreak in land. Hundreds of residents were stricken by a mysterious toxin and he worked tirelessly to find the cause and a cure. He accidentally fell upon a cure for the toxin phiesteria when he gave cholestyramine to a patient for diarrhea and she called him the next day to tell him her memory problems were gone and many of her other symptoms. He has been using it since then to bind toxins and remove them from the body. He is the author of two books, Desperation Medicine and Mold Warriors and he is considered one of a few expert witnesses in mold litigation cases. One of the things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. I hear he is arrogant but as far as I'm concerned he can be arrogant. To me he is an icon in the biotoxin field. I think a cure is not his claim but he has improved the health of many. For me just identifying the problem was a big help and my doctor used some of his tests to help me as well as a lot of his findings. Thanks for bringing up his website Rich. This doctor claims a cure for Lyme disease Check it out http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ rich F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i didnt see where he claimed cure via mms On 2/6/08, Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: Hi Rich,I am a big fan of Dr. Shoemaker. He stands up to power and in spite of government organizations trying to marginalize his work he has managed to have breakthrough after breakthrough on biotoxin disease. And he is traditional medicine. He tries to get everything approved through the insurance companies so that those of us with biotoxin disease don't have a lot of out of pocket expenses. In the 1990's Dr. Shoemaker was featured on the popular program mystery diagnosis for the pfiesteria outbreak in land. Hundreds of residents were stricken by a mysterious toxin and he worked tirelessly to find the cause and a cure. He accidentally fell upon a cure for the toxin phiesteria when he gave cholestyramine to a patient for diarrhea and she called him the next day to tell him her memory problems were gone and many of her other symptoms. He has been using it since then to bind toxins and remove them from the body. He is the author of two books, Desperation Medicine and Mold Warriors and he is considered one of a few expert witnesses in mold litigation cases. One of the things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. I hear he is arrogant but as far as I'm concerned he can be arrogant. To me he is an icon in the biotoxin field. I think a cure is not his claim but he has improved the health of many. For me just identifying the problem was a big help and my doctor used some of his tests to help me as well as a lot of his findings. Thanks for bringing up his website Rich.This doctor claims a cure for Lyme diseaseCheck it outhttp://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ rich F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I don't think doctor Shoemaker uses MMS or recommends it to his patients. According to the webcast by the doctor who practiced in Mexico fungi in the body which is what I have may build up a resistance to MMS. This stopped me in my tracks and now I am taking Oil of Oregano for awhile and will go back to the MMS later. It's just my opinion but I see why MMS would be useful for people with Lyme disease but I also think if you have chronic Lyme disease you may want to find out if you have one of these markers. If this is the case I believe it may be helpful to take something that binds toxins and gets them out of your body. None of this stuff is perfect science and some people can't tolerate the toxin removal from their bodies. As I understand Lyme (don't profess to be an expert) you are dealing with three different infections and one infection that releases endotoxins. That's a lot. If you add mold on that well now you have everything else including mold exposure. I can't even imagine how that would feel. Cheers Sharon > > > > Hi Rich, > > > > I am a big fan of Dr. Shoemaker. He stands up to power and in spite > > of government organizations trying to marginalize his work he has > > managed to have breakthrough after breakthrough on biotoxin disease. > > And he is traditional medicine. He tries to get everything approved > > through the insurance companies so that those of us with biotoxin > > disease don't have a lot of out of pocket expenses. In the 1990's > > Dr. Shoemaker was featured on the popular program mystery diagnosis > > for the pfiesteria outbreak in land. Hundreds of residents were > > stricken by a mysterious toxin and he worked tirelessly to find the > > cause and a cure. He accidentally fell upon a cure for the toxin > > phiesteria when he gave cholestyramine to a patient for diarrhea and > > she called him the next day to tell him her memory problems were gone > > and many of her other symptoms. He has been using it since then to > > bind toxins and remove them from the body. He is the author of two > > books, Desperation Medicine and Mold Warriors and he is considered > > one of a few expert witnesses in mold litigation cases. One of the > > things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the > > HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe > > overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. > > It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins > > out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of > > Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I > > have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. I hear he > > is arrogant but as far as I'm concerned he can be arrogant. To me he > > is an icon in the biotoxin field. I think a cure is not his claim > > but he has improved the health of many. For me just identifying the > > problem was a big help and my doctor used some of his tests to help > > me as well as a lot of his findings. > > > > Thanks for bringing up his website Rich. > > > > This doctor claims a cure for Lyme disease > > Check it out > > http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ > > > > rich F > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Sharon - Let me tell you it feels just *fantastic* - NOT! hehehe you are right I misread the first post...his site is nothing to do with MMS. YEs I am familair with shoemake and think he is on target! ) On 2/6/08, Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: I don't think doctor Shoemaker uses MMS or recommends it to his patients. According to the webcast by the doctor who practiced in Mexico fungi in the body which is what I have may build up a resistance to MMS. This stopped me in my tracks and now I am taking Oil of Oregano for awhile and will go back to the MMS later. It's just my opinion but I see why MMS would be useful for people with Lyme disease but I also think if you have chronic Lyme disease you may want to find out if you have one of these markers. If this is the case I believe it may be helpful to take something that binds toxins and gets them out of your body. None of this stuff is perfect science and some people can't tolerate the toxin removal from their bodies. As I understand Lyme (don't profess to be an expert) you are dealing with three different infections and one infection that releases endotoxins. That's a lot. If you add mold on that well now you have everything else including mold exposure. I can't even imagine how that would feel.CheersSharon> >> > Hi Rich,> >> > I am a big fan of Dr. Shoemaker. He stands up to power and in spite> > of government organizations trying to marginalize his work he has> > managed to have breakthrough after breakthrough on biotoxin disease.> > And he is traditional medicine. He tries to get everything approved> > through the insurance companies so that those of us with biotoxin> > disease don't have a lot of out of pocket expenses. In the 1990's> > Dr. Shoemaker was featured on the popular program mystery diagnosis> > for the pfiesteria outbreak in land. Hundreds of residents were> > stricken by a mysterious toxin and he worked tirelessly to find the> > cause and a cure. He accidentally fell upon a cure for the toxin > > phiesteria when he gave cholestyramine to a patient for diarrhea and> > she called him the next day to tell him her memory problems were gone> > and many of her other symptoms. He has been using it since then to > > bind toxins and remove them from the body. He is the author of two> > books, Desperation Medicine and Mold Warriors and he is considered> > one of a few expert witnesses in mold litigation cases. One of the > > things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the> > HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe> > overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. > > It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins> > out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of> > Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I > > have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. I hear he> > is arrogant but as far as I'm concerned he can be arrogant. To me he> > is an icon in the biotoxin field. I think a cure is not his claim > > but he has improved the health of many. For me just identifying the> > problem was a big help and my doctor used some of his tests to help> > me as well as a lot of his findings.> > > > Thanks for bringing up his website Rich.> >> > This doctor claims a cure for Lyme disease> > Check it out> > http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ > >> > rich F> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Hi Sharon, I have a couple of questions for you: 1)How do you find out if you have these markers? Is there a blood test? 2)What, in your opinion, is the best way to get rid of the toxins (if you think you could have one or more of the markers)? Thanks, ~B~ One of the > things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the > HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe > overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. > It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins > out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of > Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I > have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Hi B, Go to www.biotoxin.info. You can have your doctor order a test for these markers through this website and you can see for yourself on the order form the name of each marker. I haven't found a doctor in my area who is willing to look at this stuff. Lyme disease and mold exposure are both political diseases in the sense that there may be a lot of money involved with treating both diseases. With Lyme disease it's health insurance and disabiltiy insurance and with mold exposure it's the home owners insurance companies and property management insurance companies. It's disgusting. I travel to Atlanta, GA for my treatment but I have flight benefits and good health insurance. Anyway I was never tested but my biotoxin savvy told me I have one of the markers because I have biotoxin disease. Sharon H. > One of the > > things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on the > > HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I believe > > overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. > > It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the toxins > > out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of > > Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I > > have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Thanks for that link, Sharon. I am in Canada and a fortunate to be seeing one of the only Lyme doctors in the country. Does the test need to be ordered by my dr? Or can I do it on my own? I am worried about rocking the boat with him... What about " getting the toxins out " ? Do you take cholestyramine for that? If so, how much/often? Are there any non-prescription options out there that you know of? I have started taking chlorella but am not sure if it is helping... Thanks again, BB > > One of the > > > things I most admire about him is that he found these markers on > the > > > HLA-DR. There are some for Lyme and some for mold and one I > believe > > > overlaps. These markers means the carrier cannot filter toxins. > > > It's why some Lyme patients go chronic. You have to get the > toxins > > > out in order to heal with Lyme disease. One of the infections of > > > Lyme disease releases endotoxins and mold releases mycotoxins. I > > > have one of the markers and I have read both of his books. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 BB, Dr. Shoemaker is very helpful. I would call his office and see what they could do for you as far as the markers go. I do not take cholestyramine and yes there are supplements you can take to bind toxins. I have heard that it depends on what kind of toxins you have and sometimes cholestyramine doesn't always work. I do know that if you watch the video on Dr. Shoemaker's website it talks about giving cholestyramine to Lyme patients but it is not for everyone and some people cannot tolerate it. I do take supplements and I sent you a private email. It takes time to heal. I do feel better but I think I'm looking at two years for a full recovery because my adrenals were so impacted. Today I feel great. Cheers, Sharon > Thanks for that link, Sharon. I am in Canada and a fortunate to be > seeing one of the only Lyme doctors in the country. Does the test > need to be ordered by my dr? Or can I do it on my own? I am worried > about rocking the boat with him... > > What about " getting the toxins out " ? Do you take cholestyramine for > that? If so, how much/often? Are there any non-prescription options > out there that you know of? I have started taking chlorella but am > not sure if it is helping... > > Thanks again, > BB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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