Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dan- This is good to know but maybe I'm missing something. Can you expound about the ammonia? By taking MMS are we generating ammonia through its breakdown, in addition to the breakdown of dead germs & worms? Maybe I've been missing this? I sure would like to find something that helps me bounce back quicker. I am just about to make some posts about what's been going on with me & MMS since Christmas, but right now, yesterday was a slow day for me as I recovered from three days of MMS taking, foregoing it last night to get my strength back. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 DB, I believe ammonia is a nitrogen compound. The excerpt says: " Ornithine and Arginine are two natural aminoacids that detox ammonia. They help the body free itself of excessive nitrogen. If one eats a protein-rich food and supplies the body with more protein than necessary, the surplus amino acid is then changed into energy, and its nitrogen excreted. " " Dying parasites also release toxins that transform into excessive ammonia, which is a waste product the body needs to excrete. Ornithine and Arginine help excrete ammonia via the urine. " That's really all I know, but thought it might be worthwhile to bring up. Perhaps one of the NDs, DCs, or someone with a more technical chemistry or medical background could comment. When I get reactions from the MMS it seems to me that I become more acidic, have an acidic taste in the mouth, but there may be an ammonia component to it... Dan > [ ] Re:Ornithine and > Arginine are two natural aminoacids that detox ammonia > > Dan- > > This is good to know but maybe I'm missing something. Can you > expound about the ammonia? By taking MMS are we generating > ammonia through its breakdown, in addition to the breakdown > of dead germs & worms? Maybe I've been missing this? > > I sure would like to find something that helps me bounce back > quicker. I am just about to make some posts about what's been > going on with me & MMS since Christmas, but right now, > yesterday was a slow day for me as I recovered from three > days of MMS taking, foregoing it last night to get my strength back. > > Daddybob > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release > Date: 1/9/2008 > 10:16 AM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Daddybob, You might want to go to www.jnutra.com and in the side column, click on "neuro-toxins". In that category, he has an article about brain ammonia. Dr. Jernigan works a lot with Lyme patients and has seen the results of the neuro-toxins produced by Bb itself but also when die-off occurs. He recommends his own formula plus something called Pale Spike Lobellia. He also mentions ornithine in that article. Others have used alpha keto glutaric acid (AKG) and pre-cursors for glutathione from www.jomarlabs.com. I hope this helps. It's a complicated subject and something that I haven't really gotten a handle on in my own experience. Avril >> Dan- > > This is good to know but maybe I'm missing something. Can you expound about> the ammonia? By taking MMS are we generating ammonia through its breakdown,> in addition to the breakdown of dead germs & worms? Maybe I've been missing> this? > > I sure would like to find something that helps me bounce back quicker. I am> just about to make some posts about what's been going on with me & MMS since> Christmas, but right now, yesterday was a slow day for me as I recovered> from three days of MMS taking, foregoing it last night to get my strength> back. > > Daddybob> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008> 10:16 AM> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Yippie, I am going to that site and learning some useful stuff I hope.thanks Avril. > > > > Dan- > > > > This is good to know but maybe I'm missing something. Can you expound > about > > the ammonia? By taking MMS are we generating ammonia through its > breakdown, > > in addition to the breakdown of dead germs & worms? Maybe I've been > missing > > this? > > > > I sure would like to find something that helps me bounce back quicker. > I am > > just about to make some posts about what's been going on with me & MMS > since > > Christmas, but right now, yesterday was a slow day for me as I > recovered > > from three days of MMS taking, foregoing it last night to get my > strength > > back. > > > > Daddybob > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: > 1/9/2008 > > 10:16 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 You're welcome. Please share with us what you learn or experience in dealing with neuro-toxins. Avril In , " west612908 " <Marie22@...> wrote: > > Yippie, I am going to that site and learning some useful stuff I > hope.thanks Avril. > > > > > > > > > Daddybob, > > > > You might want to go to www.jnutra.com <http://www.jnutra.com> and > in > > the side column, click on " neuro-toxins " . In that category, he has > an > > article about brain ammonia. Dr. Jernigan works a lot with Lyme > patients > > and has seen the results of the neuro-toxins produced by Bb itself > but > > also when die-off occurs. > > > > He recommends his own formula plus something called Pale Spike > Lobellia. > > He also mentions ornithine in that article. Others have used alpha > keto > > glutaric acid (AKG) and pre-cursors for glutathione from > > www.jomarlabs.com <http://www.jomarlabs.com> . > > > > I hope this helps. It's a complicated subject and something that I > > haven't really gotten a handle on in my own experience. > > > > Avril > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks for the info folks. L-Ornithine and L-Arginine can be bought together in one formulation at GNC. I didn't ask why they make them together but I figured it must be for some good reason. I bought two bottles yesterday. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'm having trouble with my filters or I would have mentioned this sooner.Dr. uses l-ornithine and l-arginine to detox ammonia when killing parasites. A She says to take four l-ornithine at bedtime to start and keep adding until you can sleep. She says l-arginine can be taken in the am but is too energizing for nighttime. As I recall this was to remove ammonia in the brain especially as it has no mechanism in place to remove ammonia. Single use aminos for the brain, just like tryptophan, should be taken without any protein or other aminos that can compete in crossing the brain barrier. Also something sweet, like juice to help push it in.Patransley <ransley@...> wrote: Thanks for the info folks. L-Ornithine and L-Arginine can be bought togetherin one formulation at GNC. I didn't ask why they make them together but Ifigured it must be for some good reason. I bought two bottles yesterday. Daddybob Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 On 1/10/2008 7:33:25 PM, ransley (ransley@...) wrote: > Thanks for the info folks. L-Ornithine and L-Arginine can be bought > together > in one formulation at GNC. I didn't ask why they make them together but I > figured it must be for some good reason. I bought two bottles yesterday. > Daddybob It's used as a workout formula to stimulate HGH (human growth hormone) production. It's good for you. Chuck How many brewers does it take to change a light bulb? One third less than it takes to change a regular bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 > Hi, First post I think after lots of reading here. Thank you all. I just wanted to add I have read that arginine, and foods high in it, can be a mycoplasma feeder. If that's an issue. Jeff > Thanks for the info folks. L-Ornithine and L-Arginine can be bought > > together > > in one formulation at GNC. I didn't ask why they make them together but I > > figured it must be for some good reason. I bought two bottles yesterday. > > Daddybob > > > It's used as a workout formula to stimulate HGH (human growth hormone) > production. > It's good for you. > > Chuck > How many brewers does it take to change a light bulb? > One third less than it takes to change a regular bulb. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Good to know! Thanks for the info folks. L-Ornithine and L-Arginine can be bought together > in one formulation at GNC. I didn't ask why they make them together but I > figured it must be for some good reason. I bought two bottles yesterday. > Daddybob > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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