Re: MMS and GERD

[Guest guest]

Hiatus Hernia is usually a weak muscle condition of the sphincter muscle

which lets acid pass. Inadequate sodium intake can be a cause of that

weakness. Has she reduced her salt intake too far? Low chlorine can provide

insufficient acid for digestion. Read Chapter 13 " Water for Health, for

Healing, for Life " by Dr Batmanghelidj MD. (Increased salt fixed my own

problems).

Phil

[ ] MMS and GERD

Hello, my Mum has really bad Gerd (stomach acid reflux)and polyps in

her stomach. She is taking proton pump inhibitor to reduce acid. Can

she start MMS?

Will MMS make GERD worse? And what about the medicine?

Thanks

Timea

[Guest guest]

Hi Timea,

I take the same type of medicine that your mom does only for a bleeding

ulcer. My dose is 2 drops every 2 hrs six times a day. I always take my

meds atleast 2 to 3 hours before MMS otherwise the MMS oxidizes the

meds. I have no problem with Gerd now (it has been 6 weeks of MMS) and

my ulcer no longer bleeds. COOOOOL!!!

>

> Hello, my Mum has really bad Gerd (stomach acid reflux)and polyps in

> her stomach. She is taking proton pump inhibitor to reduce acid. Can

> she start MMS?

> Will MMS make GERD worse? And what about the medicine?

> Thanks

> Timea

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot! I'll let her know that, and hopefully she will start

the MMS.

> >

> > Hello, my Mum has really bad Gerd (stomach acid reflux)and polyps

in

> > her stomach. She is taking proton pump inhibitor to reduce acid.

Can

> > she start MMS?

> > Will MMS make GERD worse? And what about the medicine?

> > Thanks

> > Timea

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil

Thanks for yr advice, but my mum actually eats quite salty,she was

never on a low sodium diet. She had an endoscopic examination and she

does not have hiatus hernia...

Timea

>

> Hiatus Hernia is usually a weak muscle condition of the sphincter

muscle

> which lets acid pass. Inadequate sodium intake can be a cause of

that

> weakness. Has she reduced her salt intake too far? Low chlorine can

provide

> insufficient acid for digestion. Read Chapter 13 " Water for Health,

for

> Healing, for Life " by Dr Batmanghelidj MD. (Increased salt fixed my

own

> problems).

> Phil

>

> [ ] MMS and GERD

>

>

> Hello, my Mum has really bad Gerd (stomach acid reflux)and polyps in

> her stomach. She is taking proton pump inhibitor to reduce acid. Can

> she start MMS?

> Will MMS make GERD worse? And what about the medicine?

> Thanks

> Timea

>

[Guest guest]

I must admit that a few days before Christmas, at 16 drops taken on a

not-very-empty stomach, I had three days of gastric unpleasantness and

heartburn, until I got some kefir brewing again. The first glass of kefir

stopped it.

I now take MMS only on an empty stomach, it just works better for me, but I

do this late in the day and not at night before bed, so I'm still moving

around and my stomach isn't very sensitive.

I *think* that MMS taken with food may move throught the gut and kill some

beneficial organisms. I do *think* not all of our beneficial organisms are

totally immmune to such a powerful substance. I *think* taking it on an

empty stomach gets it out of the digestive tract and into the body much

faster.

I think.

Daddybob

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[Guest guest]

when u say to take mms on an empty stomach...do u mean that eating

shortly thereafter would be ok? i will be beginning taking the mms

this week, and want to do what will work optimally. so, to get this

right, if i take vit. c first thing in the a.m., then again around

noon, then by taking mms later in the day would work best.

all help welcome...

thanks, diana

>

> I must admit that a few days before Christmas, at 16 drops taken on a

> not-very-empty stomach, I had three days of gastric unpleasantness and

> heartburn, until I got some kefir brewing again. The first glass of

kefir

> stopped it.

>

> I now take MMS only on an empty stomach, it just works better for

me, but I

> do this late in the day and not at night before bed, so I'm still moving

> around and my stomach isn't very sensitive.

>

> I *think* that MMS taken with food may move throught the gut and

kill some

> beneficial organisms. I do *think* not all of our beneficial

organisms are

> totally immmune to such a powerful substance. I *think* taking it on an

> empty stomach gets it out of the digestive tract and into the body much

> faster.

>

> I think.

>

> Daddybob

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[Guest guest]

Give it 30 minutes to leave the stomach, then be careful what you eat.

I've found fruit works fine after MMS.

Potatoes didn't.

Kathy, who doesn't eat junk foods, meat, processed foods, white bread, so can't tell you about those.

re, eating after taking MMS

[Guest guest]

Actually it depends upon how you are dosing. If you are like me and

take 6 small doses perday for lyme, then there is no way that you can

take them all on an empty stomach. I have found that it dose not seem

to matter much which way I take it, I still am getting great results.

> >

> > I must admit that a few days before Christmas, at 16 drops taken

on a

> > not-very-empty stomach, I had three days of gastric

unpleasantness and

> > heartburn, until I got some kefir brewing again. The first glass

of

> kefir

> > stopped it.

> >

> > I now take MMS only on an empty stomach, it just works better for

> me, but I

> > do this late in the day and not at night before bed, so I'm still

moving

> > around and my stomach isn't very sensitive.

> >

> > I *think* that MMS taken with food may move throught the gut and

> kill some

> > beneficial organisms. I do *think* not all of our beneficial

> organisms are

> > totally immmune to such a powerful substance. I *think* taking it

on an

> > empty stomach gets it out of the digestive tract and into the

body much

> > faster.

> >

> > I think.

> >

> > Daddybob

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>when u say to take mms on an empty stomach...do u mean that eating

shortly thereafter would be ok?<

Honestly, there's too many variables for me to give a good answer on that

one. So far, when I have taken MMS on an empty stomach in the afternoon, I

didn't eat for at least two hours and the MMS was actually stimulating for

me in this situation.

Daddybob

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I coat my stomach with licorce, slippery elm, l-glutamine before I

take MMS and I end up with belching and burping and acidity. I am

using a real lemon to activate. As a result I am off of it for 2

weeks because of side effects. Also even though I take it in the

a.m.I cannot sleep well that night. The side effects are really bad

for me. joyce

>

> >when u say to take mms on an empty stomach...do u mean that eating

> shortly thereafter would be ok?<

>

> Honestly, there's too many variables for me to give a good answer

on that

> one. So far, when I have taken MMS on an empty stomach in the

afternoon, I

> didn't eat for at least two hours and the MMS was actually

stimulating for

> me in this situation.

>

> Daddybob

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Have you tried diluting the MMS more? Instead of adding just a quarter cup water, add a cup or more of water? Or take drops of straight MMS (not activated) in water. It works the same, just is milder and takes longer and is not acidic.

Samala,

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I coat my stomach with licorce, slippery elm, l-glutamine before I

take MMS and I end up with belching and burping and acidity. I am

using a real lemon to activate. As a result I am off of it for 2

weeks because of side effects. Also even though I take it in the

a.m.I cannot sleep well that night. The side effects are really bad

for me. joyce

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Is that for sure...that MMS works even without activation? I'm not

challenging you just hoping that's true. Like Joyce, I have a tender

tummy. At first, it didn't seem to bother me but today my stomach has

felt acidic from just two drops.

How much longer do you think that it would take to eradicate Lyme

(for instance) if plain MMS was taken?

Thanks,

Avril

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<gaiacita@...> wrote:

>

> Have you tried diluting the MMS more? Instead of adding just a

quarter cup

> water, add a cup or more of water? Or take drops of straight MMS

(not

> activated) in water. It works the same, just is milder and takes

longer and

> is not acidic.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> I coat my stomach with licorce, slippery elm, l-glutamine before I

> take MMS and I end up with belching and burping and acidity. I am

> using a real lemon to activate. As a result I am off of it for 2

> weeks because of side effects. Also even though I take it in the

> a.m.I cannot sleep well that night. The side effects are really bad

> for me. joyce

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is true that straight MMS works. It will mix with stomach acid in your body and still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part correctly. There are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to good effect. Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water purifier in many places--because it kills all pathogens. It just takes longer to do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into chlorine dioxide, which is AMMS.

There's no way to know how long it will take for either AMMS or MMS to kill Lyme. Jim said it could be up to a year with AMMS, but again, this is just speculation. Every person is different. You could take a year, someone else could take 2 years and another person take 6 months. You just have to start taking it and see what happens.

And I'm not saying that even straight MMS will be fine for you. I was just suggesting another method of taking MMS and hopefully it will be something you can tolerate. Then, perhaps after a period of a month or two of taking MMS you could try AMMS again. Because perhaps the MMS would heal your stomach and intestines enough so that at some point in time you can tolerate more acidity.

I have said many times that I wish there was some set effect of MMS that we could say THIS is what is going to happen, THIS is how long it is going to take, THESE are the results we can expect. But--I doubt we will ever be able to say that, because each person reacts differently. Therefore each health issue reacts differently. All we can do is say "these are the most common denominators of taking MMS" .

That's the plan anyway. :-)

Samala,

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How much longer do you think that it would take to eradicate Lyme

(for instance) if plain MMS was taken?

[Guest guest]

wrote:

Yes, it is true

that straight MMS works.  It will mix with stomach acid in your body

and still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part correctly. 

There are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to good

effect.  Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water

purifier in many places--because it kills all pathogens.  It just takes

longer to do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into

chlorine dioxide, which is AMMS.

Might not this be the best way to give it to, for instance, horses? 

Putting straight MMS in their water?  If so, I wonder what would be a

good dose....

[Guest guest]



Would there be any knowledge on how to calculate how much MMS is required to purify 20 liters of water?

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.au

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

wrote:

Yes, it is true that straight MMS works. It will mix with stomach acid in your body and still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part correctly. There are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to good effect. Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water purifier in many places--because it kills all pathogens. It just takes longer to do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into chlorine dioxide, which is AMMS. Might not this be the best way to give it to, for instance, horses? Putting straight MMS in their water? If so, I wonder what would be a good dose....

[Guest guest]

I am going to play the devils advocate here. If AMMS is chlorine dioxide,

would taking a few drops of 7gm/liter of chlorine dioxide bleaching solution

(used in the bleaching process of wood pulp) basically do the same thing? I

am really curious.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

Yes, it is true that straight MMS works. It will mix with stomach acid in

your body and still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part

correctly. There are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to

good effect. Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water

purifier in many places--because it kills all pathogens. It just takes

longer to do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into

chlorine dioxide, which is AMMS.

There's no way to know how long it will take for either AMMS or MMS to kill

Lyme. Jim said it could be up to a year with AMMS, but again, this is just

speculation. Every person is different. You could take a year, someone

else could take 2 years and another person take 6 months. You just have to

start taking it and see what happens.

And I'm not saying that even straight MMS will be fine for you. I was just

suggesting another method of taking MMS and hopefully it will be something

you can tolerate. Then, perhaps after a period of a month or two of taking

MMS you could try AMMS again. Because perhaps the MMS would heal your

stomach and intestines enough so that at some point in time you can tolerate

more acidity.

I have said many times that I wish there was some set effect of MMS that we

could say THIS is what is going to happen, THIS is how long it is going to

take, THESE are the results we can expect. But--I doubt we will ever be

able to say that, because each person reacts differently. Therefore each

health issue reacts differently. All we can do is say " these are the most

common denominators of taking MMS " .

That's the plan anyway. :-)

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

How much longer do you think that it would take to eradicate Lyme

(for instance) if plain MMS was taken?

[Guest guest]

When you Google sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide it says it is used in the bleaching of wood pulp. Thing is--you'd have to find out how pure it is. Our AMMS is 28% liquid solution of sodium chlorite, mixed with the acid of choice (food stuff) to make up the chlorine dioxide. Perhaps the paper industry uses a cheaper non-food acid. You'd probably have to contact a paper company to find out.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I am going to play the devils advocate here. If AMMS is chlorine dioxide,

would taking a few drops of 7gm/liter of chlorine dioxide bleaching solution

(used in the bleaching process of wood pulp) basically do the same thing? I

am really curious.

[Guest guest]

I worked in the chemical plants of several pulp mills for 30 years and made

the stuff by the thousands of gallons.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

When you Google sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide it says it is used in the

bleaching of wood pulp. Thing is--you'd have to find out how pure it is.

Our AMMS is 28% liquid solution of sodium chlorite, mixed with the acid of

choice (food stuff) to make up the chlorine dioxide. Perhaps the paper

industry uses a cheaper non-food acid. You'd probably have to contact a

paper company to find out.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I am going to play the devils advocate here. If AMMS is chlorine dioxide,

would taking a few drops of 7gm/liter of chlorine dioxide bleaching solution

(used in the bleaching process of wood pulp) basically do the same thing? I

am really curious.

[Guest guest]

Such Mills make the stuff on site for immediate use. They would have none for sale. (I once worked in the industry)

Phil

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

When you Google sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide it says it is used in the bleaching of wood pulp. Thing is--you'd have to find out how pure it is. Our AMMS is 28% liquid solution of sodium chlorite, mixed with the acid of choice (food stuff) to make up the chlorine dioxide. Perhaps the paper industry uses a cheaper non-food acid. You'd probably have to contact a paper company to find out.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I am going to play the devils advocate here. If AMMS is chlorine dioxide,

would taking a few drops of 7gm/liter of chlorine dioxide bleaching solution

(used in the bleaching process of wood pulp) basically do the same thing? I

am really curious.

[Guest guest]

It's in the book....

I could look it up for you. ....

What I remember is 8 drops per gallon of water fro jungle water and 6 drops per gallon if in a foreign country to purify tap water.

Don't know for absolute sure.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ken UzzellSent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

 Would there be any knowledge on how to calculate how much MMS is required to purify 20 liters of water?

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.au

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

wrote:

Yes, it is true that straight MMS works. It will mix with stomach acid in your body and still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part correctly. There are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to good effect. Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water purifier in many places--because it kills all pathogens. It just takes longer to do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into chlorine dioxide, which is AMMS. Might not this be the best way to give it to, for instance, horses? Putting straight MMS in their water? If so, I wonder what would be a good dose....

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[Guest guest]

Twenty liters is about 5 gallons.

At 8 drops per gallon it would be 5 * 8 = 40 drops.

Let it sit overnight (8 hours).

Chapter 15, page 4.

" 21. MMS can be used to purify water. Use 8 drops

per gallon when in the jungle or in the woods. Wait

8 hours after adding the drops. The water is then safe.

Or use 6 drops per gallon in a foreign country to make

the water safe. "

Dan

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Uzzell

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS and GERD

Would there be any knowledge on how to calculate how much MMS is

required to purify 20 liters of water?

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au <http://heal-me.com.au>

Re: [ ] Re: MMS and

GERD

wrote:

Yes, it is true that

straight MMS works. It will mix with stomach acid in your body and

still make chlorine dioxide, if I understand that part correctly. There

are a few people taking straight MMS in their water to good effect.

Plus, sodium chlorite (which is all MMS is) is used as a water purifier

in many places--because it kills all pathogens. It just takes longer to

do so because it is not activated to turn immediately into chlorine

dioxide, which is AMMS.

Might not this be the best way to give it to, for

instance, horses? Putting straight MMS in their water? If so, I wonder

what would be a good dose....