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I have used MMS in the same way as you are, I brush my teeth and flush my mouth with MMS every day, and my teeth have been very sensitive...

From: gaiacita@...Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:06:09 -0600Subject: [ ] MMS and teeth

Yes, I have gotten good results from using MMS as my "tooth paste" and mouth rinse. Whiter teeth, cleaner feeling teeth that lasts more than a day, no more pain from infections, no more infections. But, my teeth are so sensitive now! Anything cold or hot really bothers them. Sometimes it almost seems as if it hurts on the flat chewing part of the teeth!!

Anyone else experiencing this? I have been doing the MMS this way daily for a week and a half now and the sensitivity started about 5 days ago. Before, when I just used the MMS as the mouth rinse once every few days me teeth weren't sensitive, so I'm pretty sure this has to do with the daily use.

Samala,

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It worse the enamel off my teeth - I would not use it for toothpaste - its too acidic.

On 1/22/08, <gaiacita@...> wrote:

Yes, I have gotten good results from using MMS as my " tooth paste " and mouth rinse. Whiter teeth, cleaner feeling teeth that lasts more than a day, no more pain from infections, no more infections. But, my teeth are so sensitive now! Anything cold or hot really bothers them. Sometimes it almost seems as if it hurts on the flat chewing part of the teeth!!

Anyone else experiencing this? I have been doing the MMS this way daily for a week and a half now and the sensitivity started about 5 days ago. Before, when I just used the MMS as the mouth rinse once every few days me teeth weren't sensitive, so I'm pretty sure this has to do with the daily use.

Samala,

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Hi -

Are you using MMS or AMMS? Tooth sensitivity

is a common “side effect” of whitening teeth with peroxide

substances, so maybe MMS is doing a similar thing. Sounds like MMS must have a

very strong effect to be able to whiten teeth and make them sensitive during

the short time it takes to brush.

Best,

Dana

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Yes, I have gotten good results from using MMS as my

" tooth paste " and mouth rinse. Whiter teeth, cleaner feeling

teeth that lasts more than a day, no more pain from infections, no more

infections. But, my teeth are so sensitive now! Anything cold or

hot really bothers them. Sometimes it almost seems as if it hurts on

the flat chewing part of the teeth!!

Anyone else experiencing this? I have been

doing the MMS this way daily for a week and a half now and the sensitivity

started about 5 days ago. Before, when I just used the MMS as the mouth

rinse once every few days me teeth weren't sensitive, so I'm pretty sure this

has to do with the daily use.

Samala,

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Hi Dana. I use AMMS, with white vinegar. Citric just tasted too nasty to hold in my mouth for rinsing. It's not super whitening, just a bit--but the teeth certainly feel great, and no bleeding gums, no infections. But the sensitivity that I've never had is bothering me.

Samala,

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Hi -

Are you using MMS or AMMS? Tooth sensitivity is a common “side effect” of whitening teeth with peroxide substances, so maybe MMS is doing a similar thing. Sounds like MMS must have a very strong effect to be able to whiten teeth and make them sensitive during the short time it takes to brush.

Best,

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Hmmm, Jim says it does not bother tooth enamel. How do you know it eroded your enamel?

Samala,

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It worse the enamel off my teeth - I would not use it for toothpaste - its too acidic.

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Hi -

Acidic stuff demineralizes teeth and can

cause sensitivity (and cavities, and destruction of enamel), so that might be

why. Maybe you could maintain the improved oral health using AMMS “tooth

paste” only a couple of times per week.

Best,

Dana

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Hi Dana. I use AMMS, with white vinegar.

Citric just tasted too nasty to hold in my mouth for rinsing. It's not

super whitening, just a bit--but the teeth certainly feel great, and no

bleeding gums, no infections. But the sensitivity that I've never had

is bothering me.

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Hmmm. Wonder why we are experiencing that? Maybe I'll try writing Jim and asking.

Samala,

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I have used MMS in the same way as you are, I brush my teeth and flush my mouth with MMS every day, and my teeth have been very sensitive...

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Ron: I had problems with MMS removing enamel from my teeth, especially

from the gum line. I didn't notice any difference in sensitivity. I

heard about oil pulling and have been trying it for a week. My teeth

feel cleaner, whiter, and have thghtened up some. There is no bleeding

from the gums at all where there used to be just a little.

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I've figured from the start that MMS was too mean to use often as a dentifrice. Right now I'm real happy with Miracle II Neutralizer Gel for that.

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See, everything works differently for different people. I did oil pulling, and though I appreciated what it did for my mucus, it did absolutely nothing for my teeth! I know many people who got the same experience you did--but not me, nothing at all for my teeth or gums. So as much as I dislike my teeth being sensitive I will keep it up for the 3 full weeks that Jim suggests and then probably go to AMMS rinse a couple times a week. Then I'll go back to switching around with non-paste tooth paste.

Samala,

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Ron: I had problems with MMS removing enamel from my teeth, especially

from the gum line. I didn't notice any difference in sensitivity. I

heard about oil pulling and have been trying it for a week. My teeth

feel cleaner, whiter, and have thghtened up some. There is no bleeding

from the gums at all where there used to be just a little.

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You can correct the sensitivity fairly fast by using fluoride

toothpaste for a while. I've gotten that in the summer when I eat lots

of blackberries, and/or from eating lots of citrus fruit or vinegar

foods.

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Huh. Fluoride toothpaste. Um, no, I don't think so for me. Fluoride is so bad for a person and we get enough as is. But I wonder why it works for that? Is that what they put in that Sensodyne toothpaste?

Samala,

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You can correct the sensitivity fairly fast by using fluoride

toothpaste for a while. I've gotten that in the summer when I eat lots

of blackberries, and/or from eating lots of citrus fruit or vinegar

foods.

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Uhhh, no....

It's the Potassium Nitrate that desensitizes the teeth.

Chuck

I've started taking La maze classes

.... I'm not having a baby; just having trouble breathing.

On 1/22/2008 9:55:15 PM, (gaiacita@...) wrote:

> Huh. Fluoride toothpaste. Um, no, I

> don't think so for me. Fluoride is so bad for a person and we get enough as

is. But I wonder why it works for that? Is that what they put in that Sensodyne

toothpaste?

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

> You can correct the sensitivity fairly fast by using fluoride

> toothpaste for a while. I've

> gotten that in the summer when I eat lots

> of blackberries, and/or from eating lots of citrus fruit or vinegar

> foods.

>

>

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> %

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Soooo, which means that fluoride toothpaste has potassium nitrate in it? Or was the fluoride toothpaste not what is needed? I was just going by what the other person said--a fluoride toothpaste stopped sensitivity. Which is it?

Samala,

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Uhhh, no....

It's the Potassium Nitrate that desensitizes the teeth.

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> Hmmm, Jim says it does not bother tooth enamel. How do you know it

>eroded

> your enamel?

>

>

When you get tooth sensitivity like you have.

I'll bet you $1 that it will continue as long as you brush your teeth

with the acidic MMS solution you are using.

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I don't use fluoride toothpaste. I just thought you might want some

relief from the tooth sensitivity you say you have and was trying to

help. Dentists have told me to avoid citrus fruit and vinegar for the

enamel wearing effect they cause.

I don't even drink Fluoridated water. Haven't in many years.

>

> Huh. Fluoride toothpaste. Um, no, I don't think so for me.

Fluoride is so

> bad for a person and we get enough as is. But I wonder why it works for

> that? Is that what they put in that Sensodyne toothpaste?

>

> Samala,

>

>

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Oh, sorry. But even if fluoride did desensitize teeth, I, like you, wouldn't use it. I have well water, free of fluoride, and don't intend to start using it now. I'll find another way to deal with the sensitivity. Thanks.

Samala,

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I don't use fluoride toothpaste. I just thought you might want some

relief from the tooth sensitivity you say you have and was trying to

help. Dentists have told me to avoid citrus fruit and vinegar for the

enamel wearing effect they cause.

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Toothpastes for sensitive teeth use Potassium Nitrate as the

ingredient to desensitize. Usually listed as 3 or 5%

Fluoride is for whatever, it's not necessary.

Has nothing to do with sensitivity.

Chuck

I make all my own water - -

.... two glasses of H, one glass of O.

On 1/22/2008 11:28:34 PM, (gaiacita@...) wrote:

> Soooo, which means that fluoride toothpaste has potassium nitrate in it?

> Or was the fluoride toothpaste not what is needed? I was just going by what

> the other person said--a fluoride toothpaste stopped sensitivity. Which is

> it?

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Uhhh, no....

> It's the Potassium Nitrate that desensitizes the teeth.

>

>

>

>

>

> [image]

>

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Well, it could be. Guess I'll find out when I stop using it, and I'll let the group know. Hard to think with all I have eaten in my life, that perhaps 10 days of using AMMS could erode enamel. <shrug>

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

When you get tooth sensitivity like you have.

I'll bet you $1 that it will continue as long as you brush your teeth

with the acidic MMS solution you are using.

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Ah. Well, I might look into that. But, honestly, probably not. I've not used regular toothpaste in so long that I cannot stand the foaming in my mouth. Well, maybe it will depend on how much more sensitive my teeth get or how much longer I care to be discomforted.

Thanks

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Toothpastes for sensitive teeth use Potassium Nitrate as the

ingredient to desensitize. Usually listed as 3 or 5%

Fluoride is for whatever, it's not necessary.

Has nothing to do with sensitivity.

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Tooth Soap is also a wonderful tooth cleaner and de-calcifier. I just

went last week for my 6 month cleaning and was told I could now come

once a year because there was barely anything to clean!

Ballady

>

> I've figured from the start that MMS was too mean to use often as a

> dentifrice. Right now I'm real happy with Miracle II Neutralizer Gel for

> that.

>

> Daddybob

>

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puleeeze tell me how to MAKE my own water. what is H and O?

how can i get my water free of chlorine. i was told just today that

there is no getting rid of the chlorine in our water here in san

diego. upon inquiry, here is the info i got today:

in San Diego there is nothing cheap for getting rid of chlorine. The

form of chlorine used here is especially troubling. Originally, the

form of chlorine here was a pressurized gaseous form, if the water was

in pressure, then the chlorine was effective, once out of the pipe and

sitting in an open container, that older form of chlorine would

dissipate harmlessly. The newer form of chlorine is kept in the water

even outside of the pressurized piping system, it stays in the water

no matter what you do and it is extremely troubling. I have

struggled with the choices myself. You are right that filters, if

that is what you are using, must either be changed or backwashed in

regular cycles. I do not know any plumbers who would build it, but if

you could afford to put a still, yes, just like distilling liquor,

then you could convert water to steam and condense the steam back into

water that is nearly free of all metals, salts, toxins, chemicals. I

do not see, even with solar power, how anyone could afford to do it

for all their shower and other water.

if this is so, then what is the solution?*sigh*

thanks for all help.

diana

>

> Fluoride is for whatever, it's not necessary.

> Has nothing to do with sensitivity.

>

> Chuck

>

> I make all my own water - -

> ... two glasses of H, one glass of O.

>

> On 1/22/2008 11:28:34 PM, (gaiacita@...) wrote:

> > Soooo, which means that fluoride toothpaste has potassium nitrate

in it?

> > Or was the fluoride toothpaste not what is needed? I was just

going by what

> > the other person said--a fluoride toothpaste stopped sensitivity.

Which is

> > it?

> >

> > Samala,

> >

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

> > Uhhh, no....

> > It's the Potassium Nitrate that desensitizes the teeth.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [image]

> >

> > Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional

> > Change settings via the Web [

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Today, well, this morning, my teeth don't seem as sensitive. Perhaps because I didn't brush last night as I usually do.

But during the night I woke up a few times from my teeth kind of hurting. And the strange thing is that it felt as if the pain was coming from up under the gum line, deeper in my jaws. Which got me to thinking--so many people have reported pain in areas of old wounds when starting AMMS. I have always had trouble with my teeth so perhaps the MMS is actually drawing bacteria from deeper within my gum/jaw. Which would mean it would be foolish of me to stop now, though I will cut back to maybe just rinsing with the AMMS. I believe I'll write Jim today and see if I can get an answer out of him.

Samala,

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Tooth Soap is also a wonderful tooth cleaner and de-calcifier. I just

went last week for my 6 month cleaning and was told I could now come

once a year because there was barely anything to clean!

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What kind of oil did you use?

jp

>

> Ron: I had problems with MMS removing enamel from my teeth, especially

> from the gum line. I didn't notice any difference in sensitivity. I

> heard about oil pulling and have been trying it for a week. My teeth

> feel cleaner, whiter, and have thghtened up some. There is no bleeding

> from the gums at all where there used to be just a little.

>

>

>

>

>

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