Re: MMS and teeth

[Guest guest]

Cell salts helped me avoid tooth sensitivity when I was expecting No. 2 and No. 3 children. With No. 1, the dentist whipped out the offending tooth, and I have had prosthesis trouble ever since. When I remember and have some, I now take a formula with all 12 cell salts, but at the time I did my research to work out which one was most indicated for sensitive teeth.

I notice desensitising preparations work by blocking nerve sensations. "Never mind the cause, treat the symptoms!"

Magnesium seems to pop up in connection with this question.

Some other thoughts:

dentin hypersensitivity is usually experienced as we age, but tooth grinding, gum disease, and brushing too hard can also contribute. (Toms of Maine)

"A common side effect of dental bleaching is tooth sensitivity. http://www.freshpatents.com/Composition-and-method-of-bleaching-teeth-dt20071011ptan20070237727.php ... Tooth enamel is predominantly formed from inorganic material, mostly in the form of hydroxyapatite crystals and further contains approximately 5% organic material primarily in the form of collagen. The dentin layer is composed of about 20% protein, including collagen, with the balance consisting of inorganic material, predominantly hydroxyapatite crystals, similar to that found in enamel. The acquired pellicle is a proteinaceous layer on the surface of tooth enamel which reforms rapidly after an intensive tooth cleaning. ... "

If there is a bleaching action to MMS, might this in fact have some effect on the areas which typically cause dentin hypersensitivity (as well as any germs, of course).

Magnesium gluconate has been recommended for sensitivity.

De-sensitising agents to relieve tooth sensitivity. Strontium chloride works by blocking the tiny crevices (microtubules) that enable cold and heat sensations to reach the tooth's nerve. Potassium citrate and Potassium nitrate work in a different way by blocking the mechanism of pain transmission between nerve cells http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/abyss/dep1342.htm tells you all the amazing stuff that is routinely put in toothpaste. (has a link to make your own toothpaste at http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/abyss/Make-Your-Own-Toothpaste.htm)

Magnesium sulphate has been tested for desensitising: Various desensitizing agents have been used in clinics to solve the problem of dentinal hypersensitivity (DH), but none of them has been shown to be consistently effective. We here introduce a new type of desensitizing agent, i.e. 4% magnesium sulphate with iontophoresis at 2mA for 3 min. http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2842.1991.tb00068.x

A recent study at the University of Buffalo has conclusively linked heart disease to gum problems because the bacteria that causes gum disease also infects heart arteries leading to heart attacks and failures. A 1998 study at the University of Heidelberg showed that periodontal disease triples the risk of having a stroke. http://www.medicaldrugs.com/GUM-DISEASE-CARE.html goes on to list ingredients in a preparation they make (Victor Zeines).

The idea is that people who get cavities do not have enough minerals, such as calcium and phosphorus. Remineralization toothpaste has high levels of calcium, phosphorus and magnesium to compensate for the shortage. The interesting tube design keeps the ions, which are of opposite charges, separated.

http://dentalschool.umdnj.edu/patients/dental-bytes.htm

depend on how much more sensitive my teeth get or how much longer I care to be discomforted.

Toothpastes for sensitive teeth use Potassium Nitrate as the

ingredient to desensitize. Usually listed as 3 or 5%

Fluoride is for whatever, it's not necessary.

Has nothing to do with sensitivity.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but I use grey Celtic

Sea Salt to brush my teeth. I used to get sensitive teeth and the

dentist had me on flouride and sensodyne etc. but the salt seems to

put the minerals right into the enamel. Even after eating something

very acidic it will cure that edgy feeling immediately. Give it a try

if you like.

Good luck,

Jill

[Guest guest]

Hey Jill, great idea!!! I could still brush and rinse with the AMMS, and then use salt to brush with after. Thanks!

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but I use grey Celtic

Sea Salt to brush my teeth. I used to get sensitive teeth and the

dentist had me on flouride and sensodyne etc. but the salt seems to

put the minerals right into the enamel. Even after eating something

very acidic it will cure that edgy feeling immediately. Give it a try

if you like.

[Guest guest]

Wow Rowena. Great info. I'm so rushed this morning I don't have time to read it all, but will tonight. Thanks.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Cell salts helped me avoid tooth sensitivity when I was expecting No. 2 and No. 3 children. With No. 1, the dentist whipped out the offending tooth, and I have had prosthesis trouble ever since. When I remember and have some, I now take a formula with all 12 cell salts, but at the time I did my research to work out which one was most indicated for sensitive teeth.

[Guest guest]

I am not brushing my teeth with MMS or anything but I have found that

since I started taking MMS (17 days ago) that there has been a

significant reduction in plaque. My teeth feel smooth and " shiny " and

are not " fuzzy " , even 1st thing in the AM. My breath is fresher, too.

I am taking the MMS for Lyme Disease, so this is just an unexpected

side benefit.

>

> Well, it could be. Guess I'll find out when I stop using it, and

I'll let

> the group know. Hard to think with all I have eaten in my life, that

> perhaps 10 days of using AMMS could erode enamel. <shrug>

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

> When you get tooth sensitivity like you have.

>

> I'll bet you $1 that it will continue as long as you brush your teeth

> with the acidic MMS solution you are using.

>

[Guest guest]

this reminds me of the scripture that talks about vinegar setting

your teeth on edge. I wounder if it could be the vinegar?

>

> Hi Dana. I use AMMS, with white vinegar. Citric just tasted too

nasty to

> hold in my mouth for rinsing. It's not super whitening, just a bit-

-but the

> teeth certainly feel great, and no bleeding gums, no infections.

But the

> sensitivity that I've never had is bothering me.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Hi -

> Are you using MMS or AMMS? Tooth sensitivity is a common " side

effect " of

> whitening teeth with peroxide substances, so maybe MMS is doing a

similar

> thing. Sounds like MMS must have a very strong effect to be able to

whiten

> teeth and make them sensitive during the short time it takes to

brush.

> Best,

>

[Guest guest]

Vinegar drives my teeth up the wall.

Last night I had a salad and the dressing was an organic dressing made

with white vinegar. I had already toned it down with tahini, as it was

way too strong for my throat, the vinegar would actually choke me if I

got too much all at once.

Anyway, when I finished the salad, my teeth were all rough and coated

with something. I had to brush. They felt like sandpaper.

Also, I did the lemon juice master cleanse drink for awhile a couple

years ago, it ate the enamel off several of my teeth and gave me about

6 gumline cavities because I didn't rinse the acid out of my mouth

after drinking the lemonade.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/2009 6:16:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

zahra@... writes:

Hi there,

I started the MMS protocol of 6 drops etc for brushing the teeth and

did that for five days. I stopped because some areas of my gums

started to swell up and it appeared to be making things worse. Anyone

else had this experience? Or know if this is normal and I should

continue? Advise please.

Regards,

J

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How much do you dilute the MMS before brushing with it? You

don't want to use it if it is too concentrated.

Do you rinse after brushing?

Have you had gum problems before?

I have been using it for over a year now with great results

but some folks have reported sensitivity to using it. MMS

kills the bacteria in the gums and between the teeth that

causes pyorrhea and tooth loss so it should improve the

condition of the mouth.

Perhaps try starting with just one drop diluted in a cup

of warm water and see what happens. I'm sure some other

folks may have good advice also. Probably not good

to keep using it if it is making things worse for you though.

Stop using it for a while and see how you feel.

Best Regards, Todd R

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[Guest guest]

Good response. If you take for example, dogs. They (as do most mammals) have

the same enzymes as humans. The difference is the strength. Between 12 and 20

months, the hormones in a dog change (they become adults). If the enzymes are

weak, this is when you will start to see the tartar forming. I am using dogs in

this example because I have studied them and the change is more dramatic than in

humans. I would guess the same applies to people except that our diet (or lack

of a good diet) seems to promote the teeth/gum problems. I have dogs that get

nothing on their teeth no matter what I feed them. The same food doesn't stop

the tartar on other dogs. Bad bacteria gets a foothold and once it forms a

protective layer (the calcification known as tartar), the bacteria can safely

survive and grow. Once it expands to the gums, it begins to attack the root and

gums. Note here that periodontal disease is the number one point of bacteria

entry directly into the blood stream for ALL MAMMALS. For my dogs, I use a

special toothpaste (enzymematic) which has some of the enzymes normally found in

the mouth to help clean as well as support the mouth defenses. In the case of

gum problems, I use a special vet gel to provide the oral enzymes in greater

strength. Are these things that would be used on people? No. They are

designed for dogs. I have not studied this activity of reinforcing the mouth on

humans but have changed the way I brush my teeth. Fluoride has it's own

problems and getting away from fluoride toothpaste was the first step. Made all

the world in improving my teeth and stopped the reseeding of the gums. The next

step is something I am still working on. Some people use antibacterial bar

soap. Others use salt and baking soda and various combinations. Some of these

sound offensive but they do work. Homeopath medicine may have a way to increase

the oral enzyme activity of the mouth to eliminate the need for brush cleaning

of the teeth. I don't know. Don't presently have enough time to start

researching this.

> > What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the bacteria,

> > how come when people have peridontal disease there are usually

> > bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas around the

> > gum. And my understanding is that these " bad bacteria " are the cause

> > of gum disease.

>

> Simple... impaired enzyme production? Just like when someone gets sick,

> its generally due to an impaired immune system.

>

[Guest guest]

On 3/11/2009, bob Larson (bobList@...) wrote:

> aren;t the oral enzymes there to start digestion? gum disease is for

> sure a bacterial problem.

They are multi-purpose...

'Good' saliva runs in my family... I have had only one minor cavity in

my life, and I'm 48...

Some people have a mouth full by the time thay are 16...

The difference is the quality of enzyme production in saliva...

[Guest guest]

I am willing to bet that your dogs would not have the problem at all if

you put them on a raw meat diet. My 15 yr old golden has never had a

sign of a tooth or gum problem. He also gets a rib with meat on it

every day to chew on. His teeth are quite nice compared to most 50

year old people that I know... and he would be what? 105 years old?

He is 80 lbs too... not small.

We are killing our animals (and ourselves) with fried food which is

what commercially preped dried dog food is.

GREENAMYER wrote:

Good response. If you take for example, dogs. They (as do most

mammals) have the same enzymes as humans. The difference is the

strength. Between 12 and 20 months, the hormones in a dog change (they

become adults). If the enzymes are weak, this is when you will start to

see the tartar forming. I am using dogs in this example because I have

studied them and the change is more dramatic than in humans. I would

guess the same applies to people except that our diet (or lack of a

good diet) seems to promote the teeth/gum problems. I have dogs that

get nothing on their teeth no matter what I feed them. The same food

doesn't stop the tartar on other dogs. Bad bacteria gets a foothold and

once it forms a protective layer (the calcification known as tartar),

the bacteria can safely survive and grow. Once it expands to the gums,

it begins to attack the root and gums. Note here that periodontal

disease is the number one point of bacteria entry directly into the

blood stream for ALL MAMMALS. For my dogs, I use a special toothpaste

(enzymematic) which has some of the enzymes normally found in the mouth

to help clean as well as support the mouth defenses. In the case of gum

problems, I use a special vet gel to provide the oral enzymes in

greater strength. Are these things that would be used on people? No.

They are designed for dogs. I have not studied this activity of

reinforcing the mouth on humans but have changed the way I brush my

teeth. Fluoride has it's own problems and getting away from fluoride

toothpaste was the first step. Made all the world in improving my teeth

and stopped the reseeding of the gums. The next step is something I am

still working on. Some people use antibacterial bar soap. Others use

salt and baking soda and various combinations. Some of these sound

offensive but they do work. Homeopath medicine may have a way to

increase the oral enzyme activity of the mouth to eliminate the need

for brush cleaning of the teeth. I don't know. Don't presently have

enough time to start researching this.

> > What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the

bacteria,

> > how come when people have peridontal disease there are

usually

> > bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas

around the

> > gum. And my understanding is that these "bad bacteria" are

the cause

> > of gum disease.

>

> Simple... impaired enzyme production? Just like when someone gets

sick,

> its generally due to an impaired immune system.

>

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