citric acid

[Guest guest]

I cannot tolerate anythiny citrus - give me migraines... even without them I

get migraines

[Guest guest]

Ask your health food store to order Now Foods Citric Acid. Most order from

Now Foods routinely. CB.

Citric acid

> Dr. recommends citric acid as a rinse after shampooing

> with Borax, and for many other things.

>

> I haven't been able to find citric acid at any of the health food

> stores in my area. Other than mail order, where can one buy

> citric acid?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Found it!

A light bulb turned on inside my head, and I decided to look for

chemichal suppliers in my phone book.

One pound for $7.50!

Now a question:

Can the citric acid rinse be pre-made and stored? Or does it

have to be mixed each time as the book says?

Vivian

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> Ask your health food store to order Now Foods Citric Acid.

Most order from

> Now Foods routinely. CB.

>

[Guest guest]

I have seen it it some drug stores like CVS....Rick

> Dr. recommends citric acid as a rinse after shampooing

> with Borax, and for many other things.

>

> I haven't been able to find citric acid at any of the health food

> stores in my area. Other than mail order, where can one buy

> citric acid?

[Guest guest]

Citric acid is a white crystallline powder the

you can get really cheap at a health food store. pj

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[Guest guest]

Vitamin C is measured in ascorbic acid, not citric, so don't know how to measure. CB.

Hi

So is this the same as taking vitamin C.

How much equals 1000 mg of C.

Is this a natural type or is there a natural type.

Calvin

[Guest guest]

Hi

So is this the same as taking vitamin C.

How much equals 1000 mg of C.

Is this a natural type or is there a natural type.

Calvin

Citric acid is a white crystallline powder theyou can get really cheap at a health food store. pj__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It is a whole lot different.

Leo

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> Hi

> So is this the same as taking vitamin C.

> How much equals 1000 mg of C.

> Is this a natural type or is there a natural type.

> Calvin

>

> Citric acid is a white crystallline powder the

> you can get really cheap at a health food store. pj

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The powder form you get from Self Health has 1.25 gm/quarter tsp.

Leo

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> > Hi

> > So is this the same as taking vitamin C.

> > How much equals 1000 mg of C.

> > Is this a natural type or is there a natural type.

> > Calvin

> >

> > Citric acid is a white crystallline powder the

> > you can get really cheap at a health food store. pj

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Strictly impossible,

monosodium glutamate is a sodium-based aminoacid, citric acid isn't an

aminoacid, only an acid

> Heidi

>

> What about citric acid being a source of MSG? Seems to me Sally

> Fallon has said that it is, at least, sometimes.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

> " Someone wrote me to mention that citric acid is sometimes

> made from wheat, and so is not good for gluten-sensitive

> folks: however, I think most of it is not made from wheat

> and it doesn't seem to bother me. Also the new labelling

> laws will make it so the source of the citric acid should

> be on the label soon. "

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>Heidi

>

>What about citric acid being a source of MSG? Seems to me Sally Fallon has

said that it is, at least, sometimes.

>

>Kathy

I think if you buy food grade citric acid, then it is pure citric acid, which is

a chemical.

I'm not sure how they produce it though: some of these ingredients

are produced by fermentation, and it's possible to get MSG in ANY

fermented product (and it naturally occurs in some of the ingredients).

I can't see why there would be more of it in citric acid though,

than in, say, tomatoes or cheese ... I would guess that there is

very, very little MSG in a bottle marked " citric acid " . However,

kimchi juice will give you " sour " without using the chemicals ...

I mention citric acid because that's what they use commercially

to make sourdough, so people who miss " that sourdough from

restaurants " are craving the citric acid variety of sourdough,,

not the good homemade stuff.

But your home-fermented kefir-soured sourdough is likely

to have MSG in it ... glutamates get produced when you ferment stuff.

http://www.wholefoods.com/healthinfo/msg.html

Asians originally used a seaweed broth to obtain the flavor-enhancing effects of

MSG, but today MSG is made by a fermenting process using starch, sugar beets,

sugar cane, or molasses.

What is " glutamate " ?

Glutamate is derived from glutamic acid, a major building block for proteins. It

is found naturally in our bodies and in protein-containing foods, such as

cheese, milk, meat, peas, and mushrooms. MSG is one of several types of

glutamate. When glutamate is released during breakdown of the protein molecule,

" free glutamate " is formed. These substances can be added to food to enhance its

flavor and are the focus of much of the concern about glutamate. It is only in

this free form that glutamate can enhance a food's flavor.

Some foods, such as ripe tomatoes and Parmesan cheese, contain high levels of

naturally occuring free glutamate. The flavor enhancing effect of hydrolyzed

protein products, including soy sauce, is due to the presence of free glutamate.

What are " hydrolyzed proteins " ?

Hydrolyzed proteins, or protein hydrolysates, are prepared by using food grade

acid or enzymes to chemically digest proteins from soy meal, wheat gluten, corn

gluten, edible strains of yeast, or other food sources. These protein foods are

rich sources of glutamate. When proteins are broken down, bound glutamate is

converted into free glutamate. The level of free glutamate resulting from

hydrolysis varies from product to product, at levels of 5 to 20 percent.

Hydrolyzed proteins can be used in a product as leavening agents, stabilizers

(to impart body or improved consistency, etc.), thickeners, a protein source,

and as a flavor enhancer. When used in a product as a flavoring agent,

hydrolyzed proteins are used in the same manner as MSG in many foods, such as in

canned vegetables, soups, and processed meats. However, the amount of free

glutamate in hydrolyzed proteins is significantly lower than what occurs in

monosodium glutamate.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>I am just wondering if manufactured citric acid contains the free glutamate or

is it the naturally occuring, because of the ferment?

>

>Kathy

I don't know, but it's an interesting question. The do seem to be related, at

least

to your brain:

http://www.benbest.com/science/anatmind/anatmd10.html

* GABA is somewhat unique among neurotransmitters insofar as it is commonly

inactivated (after release into the synapse) by active transport into the

astrocyte glial cells that are closely associated with synapses. Both glutamate

and GABA are synthesized in the brain from the Krebs citric acid molecule

alpha-keto glutarate -- a reaction known as the " GABA shunt " . GABA is

synthesized from glutamic acid and is catabolized back into the citric acid

cycle. The vitamin B6 derivative pyridoxal phosphate is a cofactor in the

synthesis of GABA, which is why seizures occur in Vitamin B6 deficiency. GABA

levels rise when the citric acid cycle activity is low (ie, when cell energy

usage is low), and the resultant generalized GABA inhibitory effect on the brain

neurons can be protective during hypoxia or ischemia.

http://www.botany.ubc.ca/biol201/201tca.htm

The Citric Acid Cycle

The citric acid cycle, and oxidative phosphorylation via the electron transport

chain, occur inside the mitochondrion. Therefore pyruvate has to be transported

from the cytosol across the inner membrane of the mitochondrion. We talk about

NADH produced in glycolysis being oxidized by the mitochondrion to produce ATP

and to generate NAD+, but in fact the mitochondrial membrane is impermeable to

NADH. Therefore NADH is not itself transported into the mitochondrion. Instead,

malate, which is capable of being oxidized to oxaloacetate, is transported by

the malate shuttle and NADH is generated inside the mitochondrion, by its

oxidation.

http://www.westonaprice.org/msg/msgfree.html

Citric acid " is produced by fermentation of crude sugars. When " citric acid " is

produced from corn, manufacturers do not take the time or undertake the expense

to remove all corn protein. During processing, the remaining protein is

hydrolyzed, resulting in some processed free glutamic acid (MSG). “Citric acid "

may also interacts with any protein in the food to which it is added, freeing up

more glutamic acid.

Like I said before, I don't worry about MSG much except that I don't buy stuff

with " MSG " on the label. It is a VERY common substance, and seems to

be mainly a problem if you react to it or when it is added in the

purified form. It's not something I react to, AFAIK.

And I don't usually eat much in the way of processed food that would

contain " citric acid " in general ... most processed food is contaminated

with gluten, and I really CAN'T have that! Aside from the fact that I'm

lazy and it's easier to use our " bulk " ingredients than buy most

of the packaged stuff. But any food with protein that is fermented

is likely to have some MSG ...

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi does anyone know why Citric acid in lemons, or in supplements like

> magnesium causes a flare of candida. Each time I try anything with

> citric acid natural or supplement I get this. Main issues are

> constipation with a fair bit of mucus. Is it because of mercury, I

have read that citric acid either mobilises or chelates mercury?

==>It cause a flare, or does it cause die-off symptoms (healing

symptoms) ?? If you are on the diet recommended the combination of

foods (plenty of meats, good fats, minerals from ocean sea salt, etc.)

all chelate out mercury very effectively. It is one of things the body

does best when given what it needs.

==>Citric acid in any form aids digestion as well. You might try the

remedies for constipation in our Digestion Folder, especially pureeing

meats and not eating any veggies that are uncooked, and also ensure you

are consuming plenty of good fats, along with all of the supplements

recommended.

Bee

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Hi Bee,

I do follow the diet and do not have an issue with constipation now.

But as soon as I touch anything with citric acid I get constipated

with a fair bit of mucus? No real die off symptoms I don't really get

those any more, or anything like brain fog, that disappeared a long

time ago I have been doing the candida thing for 1 and 1/2 yrs now.

But this diet for 6 months

Phil

> >

> > Hi does anyone know why Citric acid in lemons, or in supplements

like

> > magnesium causes a flare of candida. Each time I try anything

with

> > citric acid natural or supplement I get this. Main issues are

> > constipation with a fair bit of mucus. Is it because of mercury,

I

> have read that citric acid either mobilises or chelates mercury?

>

> ==>It cause a flare, or does it cause die-off symptoms (healing

> symptoms) ?? If you are on the diet recommended the combination of

> foods (plenty of meats, good fats, minerals from ocean sea salt,

etc.)

> all chelate out mercury very effectively. It is one of things the

body

> does best when given what it needs.

>

> ==>Citric acid in any form aids digestion as well. You might try

the

> remedies for constipation in our Digestion Folder, especially

pureeing

> meats and not eating any veggies that are uncooked, and also ensure

you

> are consuming plenty of good fats, along with all of the

supplements

> recommended.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I do follow the diet and do not have an issue with constipation

now. But as soon as I touch anything with citric acid I get

constipated with a fair bit of mucus?

==>I've never heard of anyone becoming constipated by citric acid,

especially when consuming ascorbic acid crystals mixed with baking

soda (sodium ascorbate). The fair bit of mucus is not a bad thing

because the body creates more to help get it get rid of toxins.

> No real die off symptoms I don't really get those any more, or

anything like brain fog, that disappeared a long time ago I have been

doing the candida thing for 1 and 1/2 yrs now. But this diet for 6

months.

==>You have made excellent progress! Way to go Phil! Are you

consuming the ratios of proteins to fats to carbs as recommended in

our Candida Diet folder?

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Emma:

Many fruits contain citric acid. Especially citrus fruits, obviously.

Also many foods have citric acid added to them by the producer if a

touch more acid is judged to improve the flavor. Check the

ingredients lists for the foods you eat which have one.

Rodney.

--- In , Emma Fergusson <emkydd@...>

wrote:

>

> I have been searching the internet for a list of foods containing

citric acid. I have always had an intolerance to citric acid, but it

has gotten worse and now I have acid reflux. If anyone has

information about this, the information would be very helpful.

>

>

> Emma

>

>

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Emma,

Almost all vegetables and fruits contain citric acid. Citric acid is

an intermediate in the chemical conversion of carbohydrates, fats and

proteins into carbon dioxide to generate energy (the Krebs cycle).

So, citric acid is present in all aerobic life forms.

Acid reflux may be aggravated by acid foods, but the causes may be

more complex. Eating big meals too close to bedtime is a big no-no

because the contents of the stomach may back up into the esophagus.

According to [1], " weight loss and head of bed elevation are effective

lifestyle interventions for GERD. There is no evidence supporting an

improvement in GERD measures after cessation of tobacco, alcohol, or

other dietary interventions " .

You may try eating all your meals before 3 PM. This will give you six

to seven hours without food before bedtime.

Tony

[1] Kaltenbach T, Crockett S, Gerson LB. Are lifestyle measures

effective in patients with gastroesophageal reflux disease? An

evidence-based approach. Arch Intern Med 2006;166:965-71. (PMID: 16682569)

>

> I have been searching the internet for a list of foods containing

citric acid. I have always had an intolerance to citric acid, but it

has gotten worse and now I have acid reflux. If anyone has information

about this, the information would be very helpful.

>

>

> Emma

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

The pdf is available for:

Gastro-oesophageal reflux disease • REVIEW ARTICLE

www.thelancet.com Vol 367 June 24, 2006 2086-2100

Moayyedi and J Talley

Lifestyle and environmental factors

http://tinyurl.com/eee7w

.... There is some evidence for lifestyle factors being associated with the

underlying causes of gastro-oesophageal reflux disease because the main

mechanism of

the disease seems to be inappropriate relaxation of the lower oesophageal

sphincter.

Obesity can disrupt this sphincter, perhaps because of increased intra-abdominal

pressure21 and mechanical pressure on the diaphragm leading to hiatal hernia and

increased transient relaxation of the sphincter.22 Smoking,23 alcohol,24

coffee,25

and chocolate26 also have pharmacological effects that reduce the tone of the

sphincter. Fatty foods delay gastric emptying, which could also predispose to

the

disease.27 There is a systematic review of the effect of obesity on

gastro-oesophageal reflux disease,28 but the epidemiological association with

the

other lifestyle factors is unclear so we reviewed the published work in this

area.29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38

A systematic review28 of observational studies that assessed the association

between

obesity and reflux symptoms identified eight articles with extractable data.

Overall, there was a positive association between a body-mass index of 25kg/m2

or

more and reflux symptoms (odds ratio 1·43, 95% CI 1·16–1·77). There were a

further

five studies that assessed oesophagitis and obesity, and again there was a

positive

association (1·76, 1·16–2·68). There therefore seems to be a weak association

between obesity and gastro-oesophageal reflux disease, although the possibility

that

this link is due to residual confounding cannot be excluded. Even if the

association

is causal, the modest odds ratio suggests that it will play a minor part in the

pathogenesis of the disease.

We identified seven studies29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34 and 35 that have investigated

smoking status in patients with either oesophagitis or reflux symptoms. Three

showed

a positive association, three did not show any significant association, and one

reported a negative association. Most studies reported odds ratios of more than

2·0,

which suggests that any association is likely to be weak. These seven studies29,

30,

31, 32, 33, 34 and 35 also investigated alcohol intake in patients with

oesophagitis

or reflux symptoms. Four reported no association and three showed a positive

association. Again, the odds ratios in all studies were less than 2, which

suggests

that alcohol has an equivocal relation with gastro-oesophageal reflux disease

and

any effect is likely to be small.

There are two studies34 and 36 that have assessed the association between coffee

intake and reflux symptoms, and both were negative. Additionally, two studies

have

evaluated the role of fat intake on reflux symptoms; one reported a weak

positive

association between reflux symptoms and fat intake (1·33, 1·01–1·74)37 and the

other

was negative.38 One study did not find any association with chocolate36 and

reflux

symptoms.

--- Emma Fergusson <emkydd@...> wrote:

> I have been searching the internet for a list of foods containing citric acid.

I

> have always had an intolerance to citric acid, but it has gotten worse and now

I

> have acid reflux. If anyone has information about this, the information would

be

> very helpful.

-- Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

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[Guest guest]

I have been using lemons, limes, and vinegar (once). I found some

citric acid...what percentage is that mixed at again? Is it 10% in

distilled water? So does that mean one teaspoon citric acid to 10

teaspoons water? I know it's in the book, but I don't want to re-read

it right now. C

[Guest guest]

It is 1 tea (or table) spoon to 9 of the same in water. Doesn't have to be distilled water. I use tap. But keep it in the fridge because it will spoil after a while.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I have been using lemons, limes, and vinegar (once). I found some

citric acid...what percentage is that mixed at again? Is it 10% in

distilled water? So does that mean one teaspoon citric acid to 10

teaspoons water? I know it's in the book, but I don't want to re-read

it right now. C

[Guest guest]

This is to all,

I can't remember what it is about citric acid in ingredients of things,

maybe msg, but does anyone know what it was about it? Looks so innocent

but isn't.

[Guest guest]

Found the answer: Big time msg. Read this on the Price site

http://www.westonaprice.org/msg/msgfree.html

On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:08 AM, Parashis wrote:

> This is to all,

>

> I can't remember what it is about citric acid in ingredients of things,

> maybe msg, but does anyone know what it was about it? Looks so innocent

> but isn't.

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Grapefruit is only bad if a person is taking statin drugs.

Grapefruit pith (the skin and white stuff under the ring) contains a bioflavonoid that helps to interrupt the replication cycle: naringenin.

So enjoy grapefruit!

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