Re: MMS bashing on cure zone

[Guest guest]

I tried to read it but it was so jumbled I'm not sure I got half of it. When I do a long email I usually break it up into paragraphs to make it easier to read . Because this mans claims of the dangers of MMS are so out of line with the experiences that this and other groups of people who are experimenting with MMS use, I have a hard time giving him allot of credibility . I'm not saying we don't need to be careful or that he doesn't at least speak with a grain of truth, but people are getting results and feeling better. We all already know that in large amounts MMS is poison. That's why we follow the recommendations made by Jim Humble . I tend to think the rant is mainly professional jealousy.Looks like he is indeed competing for a chlorine dioxide market, and Jim Humble went and just gave it away.It also looks like this guy is going to shut down our source of MMS by

calling attention to the Hazardous Materials aspect of it to the DOT. You all may want to order a supply now. IN NC tedbej <settostun1@...> wrote: WOW!!! I studied to be a pharmacist and I had trouble understanding this guys rant. This guy should use simple terms to make his point. I don't think the average reader of cure zone has a degree in chemistry. As far as iI can tell there have been no reports about MMS killing any one. I have a bottle of MMS siting on my shelf. I'm still a little apprehensive about using it.Ted Wilkins

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[Guest guest]

....i think at the worst you can do 5% instead of 28%, just doing 5 or six times as much to get the same net result.

he might be correct about the DOT legality of shipping it as 28% solution, but maybe not. i'd think places like globallight have checked into that already?

yeah, i agree he might have some valid concerns about high concentration usage, esp on a long term basis, but he presents his arguments so poorly they're too hard to unravel. english might not be his first language, but he's smart enough to use a spell checker and could take the trouble to organize his thoughts or their presentation better.

he's definitely a competitor, and it appears JH/MMS has jumped out in front of his ambitions and previous work, and that might be a large part of his case. the video of the sodium chlorate NOT chlorite kaboom being a gross misrepresentation goes a long way to raise doubts about him.

i know i'd not buy his product if he screws things up for MMS out of jealousy or ambition or whatever. if he can in fact make his arguments effectively and they're clearly true and correct, well, that's how it is and he's to be thanked.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of WilkinsSent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [ ] MMS bashing on cure zone

I tried to read it but it was so jumbled I'm not sure I got half of it. When I do a long email I usually break it up into paragraphs to make it easier to read .

Because this mans claims of the dangers of MMS are so out of line with the experiences that this and other groups of people who are experimenting with MMS use, I have a hard time giving him allot of credibility . I'm not saying we don't need to be careful or that he doesn't at least speak with a grain of truth, but people are getting results and feeling better. We all already know that in large amounts MMS is poison. That's why we follow the recommendations made by Jim Humble .

I tend to think the rant is mainly professional jealousy.Looks like he is indeed competing for a chlorine dioxide market, and Jim Humble went and just gave it away.It also looks like this guy is going to shut down our source of MMS by calling attention to the Hazardous Materials aspect of it to the DOT. You all may want to order a supply now.

IN NC

[Guest guest]

Or should we learn how to make it from powder? I need to pay more

attention to that process and recipe, I've been largely ignoring it so

far.

BTW, what is the shelf life of liquid MMS?

Avril

In , Wilkins

<montemomma2002@...> wrote:

>

>It also looks like this guy is going to shut down our source of MMS by

calling attention to the Hazardous Materials aspect of it to the DOT.

You all may want to order a supply now.

>

> IN NC

>

[Guest guest]

me too I read about it for a week and what the hell tried the stuff . started with one drop in vinegar. right away could seee some positive effect. now my son is clearing his acnee with it. he had hundred of these little goose bumbs that , when squeezed, pop a tiny ball . those vanished in few days with drops of MMS. He is more happy also. I have a haitian friend 25 years old that said when I told him about MMS that his mother put 1 drop of bleach in every liter of water they drink andf every member of his family is fine

[ ] MMS bashing on cure zone

WOW!!! I studied to be a pharmacist and I had trouble understanding this guys rant. This guy should use simple terms to make his point. I don't think the average reader of cure zone has a degree in chemistry. As far as iI can tell there have been no reports about MMS killing any one. I have a bottle of MMS siting on my shelf. I'm still a little apprehensive about using it.Ted

[Guest guest]

I tried reading his posts, and couldn't make much sense out of them. I'm sure he knows what he's saying, but is just not getting it across. Kind of like me! Lol But his figures didn't seem right, and his chemical short hand instead of writing out the words also made it hard to understand, along with his percentages. I just think there will always be people that dislike MMS because of the chloride content, will be afraid of it, and will be trying to sell some competitive product, so they will all knock it. All I know is that I have tried it, it has worked as Jim claims, and I will continue to use it. Perhaps not as a daily dose once I get to the upper limit of my dose, but I will do it a few days each week, or a week on and a week off, just to keep my system in shape. Not from any fear of over dosing on MMS, or screwing up something in my system, but simply because I believe in giving the body a break from any supplement.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Yeah, i agree he might have some valid concerns about high concentration usage, esp on a long term basis, but he presents his arguments so poorly they're too hard to unravel. english might not be his first language, but he's smart enough to use a spell checker and could take the trouble to organize his thoughts or their presentation better.

he's definitely a competitor, and it appears JH/MMS has jumped out in front of his ambitions and previous work, and that might be a large part of his case. the video of the sodium chlorate NOT chlorite kaboom being a gross misrepresentation goes a long way to raise doubts about him.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I read his posts too. Between the many spelling errors, the lack of

paragraph divisions

and the general rambling it was difficult to get through. If he is so interested

in helping

people he should get his grammar act together at least. It was difficult to

pull out useful

information to consider.

Arrow

In , " " <gaiacita@...> wrote:

>

> I tried reading his posts, and couldn't make much sense out of them. I'm

> sure he knows what he's saying, but is just not getting it across. Kind of

> like me! Lol But his figures didn't seem right, and his chemical short

> hand instead of writing out the words also made it hard to understand, along

> with his percentages. I just think there will always be people that dislike

> MMS because of the chloride content, will be afraid of it, and will be

> trying to sell some competitive product, so they will all knock it. All I

> know is that I have tried it, it has worked as Jim claims, and I will

> continue to use it. Perhaps not as a daily dose once I get to the upper

> limit of my dose, but I will do it a few days each week, or a week on and a

> week off, just to keep my system in shape. Not from any fear of over dosing

> on MMS, or screwing up something in my system, but simply because I believe

> in giving the body a break from any supplement.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Yeah, i agree he might have some valid concerns about high concentration

> usage, esp on a long term basis, but he presents his arguments so poorly

> they're too hard to unravel. english might not be his first language, but

> he's smart enough to use a spell checker and could take the trouble to

> organize his thoughts or their presentation better.

> he's definitely a competitor, and it appears JH/MMS has jumped out in front

> of his ambitions and previous work, and that might be a large part of his

> case. the video of the sodium chlorate NOT chlorite kaboom being a gross

> misrepresentation goes a long way to raise doubts about him.

>

[Guest guest]

....he's selling the same thing but at 5% instead of 28%

his bitch is about the hazards of high dosage of ClO2 from AMMS taken

according to JH's protocol, which he says is ill-considered to the point of

dangerous. he's clear that he thinks the basic chemical components are

truly great.

RE: [ ] MMS bashing on cure zone

I tried reading his posts, and couldn't make much sense out of them. I'm

sure he knows what he's saying, but is just not getting it across. Kind of

like me! Lol But his figures didn't seem right, and his chemical short

hand instead of writing out the words also made it hard to understand, along

with his percentages. I just think there will always be people that dislike

MMS because of the chloride content, will be afraid of it, and will be

trying to sell some competitive product, so they will all knock it. All I

know is that I have tried it, it has worked as Jim claims, and I will

continue to use it. Perhaps not as a daily dose once I get to the upper

limit of my dose, but I will do it a few days each week, or a week on and a

week off, just to keep my system in shape. Not from any fear of over dosing

on MMS, or screwing up something in my system, but simply because I believe

in giving the body a break from any supplement.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

Oh, well he might feel the 28% is unsafe, simply because he's selling 5%. Or he might truly feel it is unsafe. <shrug> If a person was concerned about it they could order a 5% solution from him and try that and compare results. Might be interesting. Or if someone figured out how to make a 5% solution of liquid sodium chlorite I could make up a batch and send it to them to experiment with. I just don't know what the ratio of dry chlorite to distilled water would be to get a 5% solution.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

...he's selling the same thing but at 5% instead of 28%

His bitch is about the hazards of high dosage of ClO2 from AMMS taken

according to JH's protocol, which he says is ill-considered to the point of

dangerous. he's clear that he thinks the basic chemical components are

truly great.

[Guest guest]

According to my equation, to change a 28% sodium chlorite solution to a 5% one, you would add 11.8 cc (or ml) of the 28% stock to 153.2 ml (or cc) of distilled water. That should give you 5.5 ounces or 165 cc of 5% sodium chlorite solution. So just measure out your Humble MMS to 11.8ml and add 153.2ml of distilled water.

easy,

doug

RE: [ ] MMS bashing on cure zone

Oh, well he might feel the 28% is unsafe, simply because he's selling 5%. Or he might truly feel it is unsafe. <shrug> If a person was concerned about it they could order a 5% solution from him and try that and compare results. Might be interesting. Or if someone figured out how to make a 5% solution of liquid sodium chlorite I could make up a batch and send it to them to experiment with. I just don't know what the ratio of dry chlorite to distilled water would be to get a 5% solution.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

...he's selling the same thing but at 5% instead of 28%

His bitch is about the hazards of high dosage of ClO2 from AMMS taken

according to JH's protocol, which he says is ill-considered to the point of

dangerous. he's clear that he thinks the basic chemical components are

truly great.

[Guest guest]

I listened to an interview with that Bruce guy on the Adam Abraham

show. I don't have the link but you can probably google it. While I

still wonder about the possible dangers of mms, his argument is pretty

weak. He didn't answer questions and spent most of the interview

plugging his product. His only comments on the danger of mms was from

FDA cautions(which we all know how that goes) and mms that he had

activated incorrectly with HCL, but not even ingested or used, just

observed as bubbling and smelling. He gives no research or even

anecdotal evidence to support his claims and he is frustrating to

listen to because he is obviously less interested in arguing his

stance than he is in selling his product. If you find this interview

you will have a hard time taking Bruce seriously. I was surprised by

the amount of patience Adam had while listening to this guy go into

completely irrelevant rants.

greg

>

> I tried reading his posts, and couldn't make much sense out of them.

I'm

> sure he knows what he's saying, but is just not getting it across.

Kind of

> like me! Lol But his figures didn't seem right, and his chemical short

> hand instead of writing out the words also made it hard to

understand, along

> with his percentages. I just think there will always be people that

dislike

> MMS because of the chloride content, will be afraid of it, and will be

> trying to sell some competitive product, so they will all knock it.

All I

> know is that I have tried it, it has worked as Jim claims, and I will

> continue to use it. Perhaps not as a daily dose once I get to the upper

> limit of my dose, but I will do it a few days each week, or a week

on and a

> week off, just to keep my system in shape. Not from any fear of

over dosing

> on MMS, or screwing up something in my system, but simply because I

believe

> in giving the body a break from any supplement.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Yeah, i agree he might have some valid concerns about high concentration

> usage, esp on a long term basis, but he presents his arguments so poorly

> they're too hard to unravel. english might not be his first

language, but

> he's smart enough to use a spell checker and could take the trouble to

> organize his thoughts or their presentation better.

> he's definitely a competitor, and it appears JH/MMS has jumped out

in front

> of his ambitions and previous work, and that might be a large part

of his

> case. the video of the sodium chlorate NOT chlorite kaboom being a

gross

> misrepresentation goes a long way to raise doubts about him.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Doug. Easy for you--not for the mathematically challenged. Lol But I will give it a try. Anyone interested in experimenting with this 5% stuff? I'd be happy to send some if you pay for shipping.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

According to my equation, to change a 28% sodium chlorite solution to a 5% one, you would add 11.8 cc (or ml) of the 28% stock to 153.2 ml (or cc) of distilled water. That should give you 5.5 ounces or 165 cc of 5% sodium chlorite solution. So just measure out your Humble MMS to 11.8ml and add 153.2ml of distilled water.

[Guest guest]

Are you asking me? If you are, I don't understand your question. Sorry.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Out of thsoe who are concerend about side effects here or are hesistant to start , what are your specific concerns?

On 2/4/08, <gaiacita@...> wrote:

Hey Doug. Easy for you--not for the mathematically challenged. Lol But I will give it a try. Anyone interested in experimenting with this 5% stuff? I'd be happy to send some if you pay for shipping.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

According to my equation, to change a 28% sodium chlorite solution to a 5% one, you would add 11.8 cc (or ml) of the 28% stock to 153.2 ml (or cc) of distilled water. That should give you 5.5 ounces or 165 cc of 5% sodium chlorite solution. So just measure out your Humble MMS to 11.8ml and add 153.2ml of distilled water.

[Guest guest]

Oh, sorry. I had just woke up and was talking to my husband while going through the morning emails and so didn't "get" your question. I understand it now. Man, I'd better wake up before I go posting anything. Lol

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Out of thsoe who are concerend about side effects here or are hesistant to start , what are your specific concerns?

[Guest guest]

Thanks...

Avril

In , " bob Larson "

<bobList@...> wrote:

>

> it's harder to get in powder. hazmat restrictions apply for sure to

the

> powder.

>

> shelf life of the mixed liquid kept cool and dark is about two years

(as i

> recall).

>

>

[Guest guest]

....thank you.

There's a science supply company here, where I get my Lugol's from.

Perhaps I could get some powder there and avoid the hazard shipping.

Avril

In , " "

<gaiacita@...> wrote:

>

> There's a science lab that sells 4 pounds for around $56 plus hazard

> shipping. This will make quite a lot of MMS, plus the nice thing

about

> having the powder is that it will keep (if stored dry, sealed and

in the

> dark) for many many years so you could make up MMS as you need it.

If it is

> already made MMS will stay viable for 2 to 4 years is all (also

must be kept

> out of direct sunlight, because just 1 hour of direct sunlight will

> deactivate MMS).

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> Or should we learn how to make it from powder? I need to pay more

> attention to that process and recipe, I've been largely ignoring it

so

> far.

>

[Guest guest]

If I asked them, the only " hazard " would be that they would say " No " .

Avril )

In , " " <gaiacita@...>

wrote:

>

> Doesn't hurt to ask. They can't do anymore than say no. :-)

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> There's a science supply company here, where I get my Lugol's from.

> Perhaps I could get some powder there and avoid the hazard shipping.

>

[Guest guest]

>Out of thsoe who are concerend about side effects here or are hesistant to

start , what are your specific concerns? <

The only *direct* side effect I've had is pain while an infection is being

killed, as in my right sinus and eustachian tube were very painful for the

first three days. However, that pain was the thing that showed me just how

unbelievably effective this stuff is.

Everything else is a side effect of excessive die-off and/or of taking too

much too fast.

Daddybob

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