Re: (no subject) Vaccines!!!

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I have a friend who can definitely trace his Guillain-Barre syndrome (he's

permanently wheelchair bound and has only limited use of his hands, a bad

case)! to his vaccination for traveling to a foreign country.

On the other hand, when I was in grade school, I had one friend die of polio,

and two others are permanently crippled. Without the vaccine, I think many

more would have died and been crippled than have had negative side effects

from getting vaccinated.

I think there is the tendency of alternative medicine folks to do what they

accuse the FDA and establishment medicine of doing -- pick up on a relatively

small number of unfortunate results -- relative to the number treated -- and

blow it up out of proportion and say, " See, look, it doesn't work. "

I can't think of a better use for Bill Gates' money, than the vaccination

program in Africa, that he's sponsoring which will save the lives of millions

of children. Will there be some bad results? No doubt. Any maybe others

showing up further down the road. But I think infinitestimal compared to the

damage of NOT having the vaccines, and without them, there wouldn't be a

" further down the road " for many of these kids.

Rosy

[Guest guest]

Tom

In response to what you have just said, I have to agree and most

strongly disagree. I don't think vaccines were intended to harm, but

unfortunatly the way they are made is definitly harmful. I am not going

to include the whole article but will give you enough to give my point.

I live in a little town and got the library to bring in Dr. Leonard

Horowitz, DMD, MA, MPH book titled EMERGING VIRUSES: AIDS AND EBOLA.

This article is from a health magazine in Canada titled Alive and is

free at all heath food stores.

The Truth About Auto-Immune Deficiency

Merck's vaccines remain heavily contaminated: extraneous viruses,

bacteria, genetic fragments, foreign peices of RNA and DNA, mercury,

aluminum, formaldehyde, formalin, carcinogenic enzymes and more flow

into human bloodstreams on behalf of those who seek to reduce world

populations. For example, Merck's chicken pox(herpes zoster) vaccine,

widely released this year, carried a technical report that listed

" foreign RNA and DNA " and " herpes viruses, " meaning other herpes

viruses may contaminate the mix.

Today's epidemics of cancer and auto-immune disease such as AIDS were

virtually non-existent 40 years ago. Now scientific evidence strongly

indicates they are vacine-induced. Diseases including chronic fatigue

immune dysfunction(CFIDS), fibromyalgia, lupus, Multiple Sclerosis,

Guillean Barre disease, Lou Gehrig's disease, asthma, allergies,

autism, attention deficit, hyperactivity disorders, sudden infant

death, type-1 diabetes, chronic crippling rheumatiod arthritis, AIDS,

Gulf War Syndrome and an array of cancers have been scientifically

linked to vaccine contaminants or vaccine ingredients.

It is a good article and if you wish I will print the whole thing.

Vaccines do not build up the immune system, instead it puts it through

some of the worst challenges. Do you know that alot of vaccines are

what they call a live vaccine. In order to make this they use either

chicken embryo's or kidney's from monkey's . Now in order to make the

vaccine weak enough for your body to handle it is passed through these

organs or embryo 3-4 times. I would like to think they only remove the

vaccine, but I am not that naieve and so I know that we have to be

getting things from there that we don't want. I think that you need to

look at this vaccine thing in a different light, what may have started

out to be a good thing, man has once again destroyed. Our systems can

not often handle this. Mercury is used in all vaccines and they really

don't know how much a small child can handle saftley. It is like

playing russian roulette. Ask the parents who's children appeared

normal until recieving vaccinations or the one's whose children did not

live. Or my friend who has MS and has been able to trace it to her Hep

B shots. I believe we were given a gift, by the systems we are given

but we don't nurish this gift instead we pretend to protect it through

medical abuse by challenging it beyond its capabilities. Sorry Tom, but

there is to much evidence and to many sick people out there, you tell

me how come, cause I trully believe the evidence points to vaccine

contaminants or vaccine ingredients.

Great day to you

Debbie

tom dalton <tdalto-@...> wrote:

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> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH VACCINES!!!

>

> in fact most experts recommend that people with cancer

> receive all of the extra vaccinations

> that a person would normally get if they were traveling to

> a 3rd world country!!!!

>

> VACCINES are an immune stimulant.

[Guest guest]

Rosy

I recieved this about a week ago from a mom with two children out of

four with Autism.

From; Gallup, More Evidence

I just had breadfast with Verlin Wooley, the executive director of

California's Inland Regional Center. Inland is one of 21 regional

centers in California that serves people with developmental

disabilities. Each regional center has a catchment area, for Inland it

is Riverside and San Bernadino counties. California has 58 counties.

Inland has a reputation for being one of the most conservative centers

both on strict diagnostic criteria and fiscal policy.

Verlin told me that Inland is currently adding 150 new CASES OF FULLY

DIAGNOSED DSM 4 AUTISM to his case load EVERY MONTH. This is just one

of the 21 centers. Keep in mind that prior to 1977-79, California was

adding between 100 and 200 new cases for the entire state for ONE YRAR!

So Inland, one of 21, is adding more new cases in one month that the

entire new caseload, pre 1977-79, for an entire year for the entire

state of California!

Also keep in mind that DSM 4 came into exsistence in 1988, 10 years

AFTER the rapid, unexplained increase had already begun in California.

I sincerely hope that this latest evidence of the growing autism

epidemic wil be shared on Tusday with members of Congress.

Rosy

This can't possibly be all linked to genetics. There is something wrong

here. Healthy children who recieve vacinations and then end up changing

and being diagnosed with Autism, or something else, that is just plain

wrong. I believe they were made at one time with good intention but

when this many children are hit with Autism in such a small area,

something is wrong and that wrong needs to be fixed.

You know I would like to believe that in Africa what we are doing is

right. But lets take the aids virus for an example. If I was a African

American knowing what I know, I would be down right angry for my fellow

folks in Africa. I think it is horrible that they are targeted with so

little regard, actually it is kind of interesting because this next

article targets, blacks, gays and mentally challenged. To many aren't

these folks, not looked down upon as being inferior. Targeted groups of

people, who are human like you and I. It could have been you are I.

Or how about the tetanus shot that sterilized. This info again

courtesty of Dr. Lenard G. Horowitz, DMD, MA, MPH

AIDS and the MERCK PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY

In 1971, the Merck company, under a National Institutes of Health

contract entitled " oncognic (cancer-causing)Virus Research and Vaccine

Development, " began to develop and test the " experimental hepetitis B

vaccine. " Immediately after, the international AIDS pandemic began. The

project was directed by Dr. Maurice Hilleman, with help from his

colleagues at the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease

Control and Prevention, and the National Institute for Allergies and

Infectiou Diseases. The study targeted gay men in New York City, blacks

in Central Africa and mentally retarded children on Staten Island in

New York. The four different strains(they called them " subtypes " ) of

viruses for these vaccines were cultured in African monkeys and

chimpanzees, also supplied by Litton Bionetics. This best explains why

different sub-types of the AIDS virus (HIV) related to chimpanzee

immuno-deficiency viruses appeared in these populations on two far

removed continents three to 10 years later.

In 1986, Planned Parenthood distributed brochures saying they were

" proud of their long history. " That same year Dr. Hilleman admitted,

during a taped interview, that he had imported HIV-contaminated monkeys

into Merck's New York City holing facilities. " I didn't know we were

importing the AIDS virus at the time, " he said.

Recently, the horror of Dr. Hilleman's admission was amplified by his

esteemed colleague and coauthor, senior Merck scientist and vaccine

investigator Dr. Sweet. Dr. Sweet stated during an interview

published on the Internet that he and Dr. Hilleman didn't worry too

much about the viruses they knew contaminated Merck's vaccines. But

now, he lamented, " with the theoretical links to HIV and cancer, it

just blows my mind. "

In 1989, a new tetanus vaccine was given to hundreds of thousands of

women in the Philippines and in North America. The vaccine contained a

female pregnancy hormone-HCG. It caused the vaccine recipients to turn

sterile. The women had become unwitting vitums of global depopulation.

Rosy

Like I said I don't have a problem with why we have vaccines, but I do

have a problem with the way they are made. And I have a problem with

the Merck company, their track record to me is not good.

We need to change, what we will and will not allow in our bodies. And

these big companies have no right to target these poor countries. They

already don't stand a chance for the conditions many of them live in,

and then to attack their immune systems in such a mannor, is it kinder

to let them die of a disease they may or may not get or inject them

with one instead and insure their death. Or insure alonger life with a

bad disease.

Louis Pasteur's therory was, the body is viewed as a sterile machine

that will operate properly unless a foreign substance is introduced.

Hence, it is thought that when specific microbes enter the body, they

produce a specific disease. To return the patient to health antibiotics

and various chemicals are used to destroy these organisms. No microbes,

no sickness. Health is defined as the absence of any germ that might

cause disease.

Pasteru denounced his own theory on his death bed; " Bernard is right.

The microbe is nothing. The environment is all important. "

This is why I feel we must see changes in the way vaccines are made or

we must stop using them. Disease is out of control , vaccines stop a

few diseases but they appear to be the creater of so many more.

Debbie

rosydixo-@... wrote:

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> Debbie,

> I have a friend who can definitely trace his Guillain-Barre syndrome

(he's

> permanently wheelchair bound and has only limited use of his hands, a

bad

> case)! to his vaccination for traveling to a foreign country.

>

> On the other hand, when I was in grade school, I had one friend die

of polio,

> and two others are permanently crippled. Without the vaccine, I

think many

> more would have died and been crippled than have had negative side

effects

> from getting vaccinated.

>

> I think there is the tendency of alternative medicine folks to do

what they

> accuse the FDA and establishment medicine of doing -- pick up on a

relatively

> small number of unfortunate results -- relative to the number treated

-- and

> blow it up out of proportion and say, " See, look, it doesn't work. "

>

> I can't think of a better use for Bill Gates' money, than the

vaccination

> program in Africa, that he's sponsoring which will save the lives of

millions

> of children. Will there be some bad results? No doubt. Any maybe

others

> showing up further down the road. But I think infinitestimal

compared to the

> damage of NOT having the vaccines, and without them, there wouldn't

be a

> " further down the road " for many of these kids.

>

> Rosy

[Guest guest]

OMG!

Somebody needs to spend some time at http://www.tetrahedron.org.

Vaccines are good?

Excuse me, but this is one of my least sacred cows.

Always be well,

At 11:34 PM 10/21/99 EDT, you wrote:

>Debbie,

>I have a friend who can definitely trace his Guillain-Barre syndrome (he's

>permanently wheelchair bound and has only limited use of his hands, a bad

>case)! to his vaccination for traveling to a foreign country.

>

>On the other hand, when I was in grade school, I had one friend die of

polio,

>and two others are permanently crippled. Without the vaccine, I think many

>more would have died and been crippled than have had negative side effects

>from getting vaccinated.

>

>I think there is the tendency of alternative medicine folks to do what they

>accuse the FDA and establishment medicine of doing -- pick up on a

relatively

>small number of unfortunate results -- relative to the number treated -- and

>blow it up out of proportion and say, " See, look, it doesn't work. "

>

>I can't think of a better use for Bill Gates' money, than the vaccination

>program in Africa, that he's sponsoring which will save the lives of millions

>of children. Will there be some bad results? No doubt. Any maybe others

>showing up further down the road. But I think infinitestimal compared to

the

>damage of NOT having the vaccines, and without them, there wouldn't be a

> " further down the road " for many of these kids.

>

>Rosy

>

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