Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Okay I see....please post about yoru exzema as well b/c I want to help my firend if it clears up for you. ) Is MMS helping your HEPC? Anothe rfriend of min ehas that but she is Hep c negative now after her chemo....if you test negative does that mean you are through with it - totally cured? On 1/30/08, tonytaptoe <joe525us@...> wrote: Hi,I have Hep C and bacteria overload. I think they like to co-exist insomeone's body when the conditions are just right. Something knockedout my HCL output (stomach acid) back in the 80s (probably Hep C) and I think that may have set the stage for GI problems, bacteria, etc. I've been told that MMS will restore my HCL output someday. I'd liketo see that happen.I don't have Lyme that I know of. Joe>> Are you treating for exzema in particular or do you have Lyme ?? Ihave a> friend with ezema but no other issues so it hard getting people tosee that> as an infection of some sort. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey Joe, I got up to 50 drops in a day, and it did not affect my RBC. Last test done Dec 11. Any risk of MMS damaging RBC or anything else seems very > worthwhile to me, because the virii and bad bacteria overload have > definitely clouded my days for years and could shorten my life if I > let them be. > > Joe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hi Tony, I take HCL with every cooked meal to aid slow digestion due to HCV. Also take digestive enzymes. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Good questions, Meredith. HCV clears during treatment, then in 6 months, is retested; and if still clear, it is called a sustained viral response, which means your prognosis is really good. If it's still clear in a year, even better. etc. 5 years is considered the ultimate test, I believe. I would say that taking MMS meanwhile would keep the virus at bay. It would help support the immune system in destroying any dormant virus that might wake up and decide to enter a liver cell and start replicating. I would do the protocol suggested in the book. Work up to 15 drops twice a day for 2 weeks, then drop back to a maintenance dose until she is certain. http://hcvadvocate.org Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 >but also not have the crummy feeling linger for hours. After all, doesn't AMMS do its thing within the first two hours, or am I missing something here?< It does it's biggest thing in 2 hours, but it is still around for 10 more hours, and I contend, even longer, especially if you didn't take it on an empty stomach and ate too soon afterwards. About all the runs, trots, loose bowels, Herxes, dragging butt feeling... I've been doing it now for about 5 months with many stops and starts because of so much of all of the above. I can now say this is very clear to me- it is NOT the MMS that does all of the above, it really is the die off. I have for months now not been able to take it for more than 3 days before having to stop and detox and rebuild. Finally that seems to be not happening. No Herx, no loose bowels other than that done by trying to eat more veggies, no butt drag, no heart flutters, no nuthin'! I think I'm really beginning to win. Of course, I still hold out the possibility that another level of infection may yet be uncovered. If you are getting hammered by all the above, and if you can't afford it like I couldn't, then SLOW DOWN. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: 1/30/2008 9:29 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have low stomach acid, too, and just found out about niacin for that. Check out this link... http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2001/articles/2001-v16n04-p225.shtml I've just started supplementing with it. We'll see. You may already know this, but I didn't want to take a chance that you didn't. Hope it helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I presume it is helping to lower the virus and bacteria levels in my body. Sorry but I can't answer your other question. Joe > > Okay I see....please post about yoru exzema as well b/c I want to help my > firend if it clears up for you. ) Is MMS helping your HEPC? Anothe rfriend > of min ehas that but she is Hep c negative now after her chemo....if you > test negative does that mean you are through with it - totally cured? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi there, I'm going to try 1x2 today. I think I'm kind of full of bad bacteria. I feel like I did when I attempted to take Nystatin in the 80s : like I'm trying to empty the ocean with a thimble. I was actually feeling pretty good going into this and I wasn't really even looking for another therapy. But, I can see now that I have lots of reason to press on with this. I've had the Heidelberg Gastric Analysis test done twice. I swallowed a red capsule that measured by stomach acid. Then, I drank a baking soda solution. I was found to have hypochlorhydria, which is very low HCL output. I hope this isn't TMI = too much info. Joe --- In , " Kat " <makiah@...> wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > I take HCL with every cooked meal to aid slow digestion due to HCV. > Also take digestive enzymes. > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Thanks for your reply. I'm going to try 1 drop once or twice a day for now and see if I can handle that dose every day. This last episode was not good either. MMS sped up my bowels and I got more deficient in Cu and other mins again. I should make a diary to help determine what dose to take, and when. The tenderness I was getting in my kidney area seems to have gone away but now I have other die off things going on. On arising I had a VERY sour taste in my mouth, like I used to get on Nystatin. I think it's because of lots of dead bacteria that still is in my body, waiting to be eliminated. I don't feel like I have liver congestion, and I may be able to thank inversion therapy for that, and/or oil pulling, as IMHO they are both very good liver therapies. Joe > > It does it's biggest thing in 2 hours, but it is still around for 10 more > hours, and I contend, even longer, especially if you didn't take it on an > empty stomach and ate too soon afterwards. > > About all the runs, trots, loose bowels, Herxes, dragging butt feeling... > > I've been doing it now for about 5 months with many stops and starts because > of so much of all of the above. I can now say this is very clear to me- it > is NOT the MMS that does all of the above, it really is the die off. I have > for months now not been able to take it for more than 3 days before having > to stop and detox and rebuild. Finally that seems to be not happening. No > Herx, no loose bowels other than that done by trying to eat more veggies, no > butt drag, no heart flutters, no nuthin'! I think I'm really beginning to > win. Of course, I still hold out the possibility that another level of > infection may yet be uncovered. > > If you are getting hammered by all the above, and if you can't afford it > like I couldn't, then SLOW DOWN. > > Daddybob > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: 1/30/2008 > 9:29 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I am with you joe. I know which side my bread is buttered on! JUST MY OPINION > > Hi, > > I restarted and took 2 drops x 2 for 2 days or so, then decided to try > 2 x 3 again, and it was too much again. I didn't get liquid stools > again but my stomach started making noises and it did affect my BMs. > It also gave me wicked insomnia. If I sleep good tonight I plan to > resume Thursday at 1 drop 2 or 3 times daily. For some reason I > presumed I could get away with 2x3 now. > > At times I really feel like my moods are starting to clear up. For > years I've been depressed and have not seen the sunshine I used to see > in life. It faded away, and I didn't know why. There was no passion in > anything. I believe MMS might do a lot to correct this physical > problem I've had. When a body is full of virii and bacteria, it's hard > not to be depressed. My ear hurts when I take a shower now and wash it > with soap. I think MMS has removed bacteria or virii from my head. I > have a long standing eczema on my scalp, which indicates systemic > bacteria infection. My ears also have it, and I think they are a > little better since taking MMS. > > I plan to keep hitting them with MMS every day, in whatever dose I can > tolerate. Any risk of MMS damaging RBC or anything else seems very > worthwhile to me, because the virii and bad bacteria overload have > definitely clouded my days for years and could shorten my life if I > let them be. > > Joe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Is RBC red blood count? --- In , " Kat " <makiah@...> wrote: > > Hey Joe, I got up to 50 drops in a day, and it did not affect my RBC. > Last test done Dec 11. > > > > > Any risk of MMS damaging RBC or anything else seems very > > worthwhile to me, because the virii and bad bacteria overload have > > definitely clouded my days for years and could shorten my life if I > > let them be. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Yes > > Is RBC red blood count? > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hi Daddybob, I just reread your post. I didn't catch this at first, but now it is a real comfort to me. I've been on a low dose (3 drops this last time) but the herxing (not the runs) but neural and emotional symptoms are so intense that I have to stop after 3 days to regroup. I have Lyme so my herxes are typical of this disease. Your post gives me hope that I'll still be able to make some progress at my slow rate. Thanks, Avril In , " ransley " <ransley@...> wrote: > About all the runs, trots, loose bowels, Herxes, dragging butt feeling... > > I've been doing it now for about 5 months with many stops and starts because > of so much of all of the above. I can now say this is very clear to me- it > is NOT the MMS that does all of the above, it really is the die off. I have > for months now not been able to take it for more than 3 days before having > to stop and detox and rebuild. Finally that seems to be not happening. I think I'm really beginning to > win. > If you are getting hammered by all the above, and if you can't afford it > like I couldn't, then SLOW DOWN. > > Daddybob > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: 1/30/2008 > 9:29 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Maby you could take 2 drops 5 times instead of 3 drops 3 times? maby it would be easier for you? I know every time I try to jack my doses to 3 drops from 2, it is very tough on me. JUST MY OPINION > > About all the runs, trots, loose bowels, Herxes, dragging butt > feeling... > > > > I've been doing it now for about 5 months with many stops and > starts because > > of so much of all of the above. I can now say this is very clear to > me- it > > is NOT the MMS that does all of the above, it really is the die > off. I have > > for months now not been able to take it for more than 3 days before > having > > to stop and detox and rebuild. Finally that seems to be not > happening. I think I'm really beginning to > > win. > > If you are getting hammered by all the above, and if you can't > afford it > > like I couldn't, then SLOW DOWN. > > > > Daddybob > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: > 1/30/2008 > > 9:29 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 This is no fun. I got real fast bowels from 1 drop x3 daily of activated MMS. So, I woke up the next day and thinking it would be OK, took one more drop, and that's the last I've taken MMS. That was about 3 days ago but I still have loose stools. I also began UT and that may be adding to it. So, I'm not sure what I should do. I'm tired of being tired. I'm not sure but UT may be a better therapy for me, for now. I think I should do one or the other for now, or neither. I probably ought to stop them both for now and let my GI tract get normal again. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Joe, I would add things one at a time so you can see how your body is reacting to each. When I first started UT, I did a just a little but then one weekend I did it throughout the day. Needless to say I had the same reaction you are having now and it was very, very uncomfortable. I quickly settled into doing UT just with the 1st morning catch. MMS also will cause me diarrhea and did so especially in the beginning. Maybe you could do one or the other for the next month then start the other one and start slowly with each. Olive > > This is no fun. I got real fast bowels from 1 drop x3 daily of > activated MMS. So, I woke up the next day and thinking it would be OK, > took one more drop, and that's the last I've taken MMS. That was about > 3 days ago but I still have loose stools. I also began UT and that may > be adding to it. > > So, I'm not sure what I should do. I'm tired of being tired. I'm not > sure but UT may be a better therapy for me, for now. I think I should > do one or the other for now, or neither. I probably ought to stop them > both for now and let my GI tract get normal again. > > Joe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Tony, Probiotics! I took 6 right away, then took 4 twice more four and 8 hours later. Took care of it completely. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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