Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 That's a great idea Dr. Dan...Let's start with you, and I'll ask for the 4th time now: WHO ARE YOU?, What are you selling, besides cynicism and despair. What kind of Dr. are you. I propose that if you don't answer, that all of us just ignore you so that we can just share the good ideas that we get from the world which may or may not include certain products that I do or do not endorse. Your contributions so far have been meaningless....So again, let's start with you (or do you not play by your own rules!) Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 By the way Dr. Dan, believe it or not, some of us who are on this list that do have something of VALUE to offer, have an issue with and have been impacted by Cancer personally or in their familys, have you?? Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 Good idea, let's introduce ourselves to each other. I'll do a write up about all that I do soon. So, Dr. Dan, what do you do? What do you sell? Be blessed and be well, At 10:53 AM 12/2/99 EST, you wrote: >I propose that anyone who has any kind of financial gain associated with >their message, state that fact in the beginning of their message. > > " I am a representative of XYZ company and I promote and distribute the >following product. " > >There are a lot of very sick people who join the newslist with the >expectation of communicating with others who have cancer. They are not aware >that most of the messages are from people whose profession is not health >care, but is MLM. These people would not be on the list if they were not >profiting from selling product. >Dr Dan > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-- Create a poll/survey for your group! >-- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 Hello Dr. Dan, If you tell us what kind of doctor you are we may be able to think ahead enough to ask you intelligent questions in the field of your expertise instead of going to the yellow pages to a complete stranger. At your service, Joe Peppe,N.D. P.S. I like the St. Louis Rams no stress offense. I like all the no stress products too. Re: A proposal > Good idea, let's introduce ourselves to each other. > > I'll do a write up about all that I do soon. > > So, Dr. Dan, what do you do? What do you sell? > > Be blessed and be well, > > > > At 10:53 AM 12/2/99 EST, you wrote: > >I propose that anyone who has any kind of financial gain associated with > >their message, state that fact in the beginning of their message. > > > > " I am a representative of XYZ company and I promote and distribute the > >following product. " > > > >There are a lot of very sick people who join the newslist with the > >expectation of communicating with others who have cancer. They are not aware > >that most of the messages are from people whose profession is not health > >care, but is MLM. These people would not be on the list if they were not > >profiting from selling product. > >Dr Dan > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- Create a poll/survey for your group! > >-- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 Greetings, a-- Yes, I agree. Those of us on the list for months recognize the names of those who are selling a product, and read the posting or delete it as we chose. However, for a new member to the list, it can be very confusing, with this one saying " you must have this, " and another one saying, " what you really need is this " . Useful information can be gained from the seller's postings, however, one should be aware from the beginning that they have a vested interest in promoting a particular product. Perhaps anyone making a post concerning any product that they have a financial interest in, should have to say " ADVERTISEMENT " in the subject line. What do you think? Rosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 Hello I want to introduce my self. I also want to know whom I´m talking to and if this is a market place. Sorry about my english and my expressions. I´m from México, actually I live in Mexico. My mother has pancreatic cancer and the tumour was resected 3 months ago. She is well. I´m a writer, a novelist and formally work for a press company. I sell nothing and it is difficult for me to recognize a seller. Specially through a site. I believe in this place there is too many discussions about a product and it is difficult to find people´s concerns and alternatives. I propouse to have links for the products people sells would be nicer for everybody. Don´t you think so? Sorry if I express my self so sincerelly, but neither my mom nor me have time to go any other way but streight. I can understand the people who sells some products, like Debbie, who sells immunocal but I believe it would be wonderfull for everyone to safe time not to be reading about a product all the time or at least to know wether this is a " product advertisment " , to name it some how. I don´t want to boder any one nor to heart anybodies feelings so please excuseme if I do. My name is a and I´m here to get support and to help people with cancer, any way I can. That´s all. -----Mensaje original----- De: Webster <michelle@...> Para: cures for canceregroups <cures for canceregroups> Fecha: Jueves, 02 de Diciembre de 1999 11:17 a.m. Asunto: Re: A proposal >Good idea, let's introduce ourselves to each other. > >I'll do a write up about all that I do soon. > >So, Dr. Dan, what do you do? What do you sell? > >Be blessed and be well, > > > >At 10:53 AM 12/2/99 EST, you wrote: >>I propose that anyone who has any kind of financial gain associated with >>their message, state that fact in the beginning of their message. >> >> " I am a representative of XYZ company and I promote and distribute the >>following product. " >> >>There are a lot of very sick people who join the newslist with the >>expectation of communicating with others who have cancer. They are not aware >>that most of the messages are from people whose profession is not health >>care, but is MLM. These people would not be on the list if they were not >>profiting from selling product. >>Dr Dan >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>-- Create a poll/survey for your group! >>-- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 >> >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 Dr. wrote several books and has a clinic in Mexico. The Cure for All Cancers The Cure for HIV and AIDS Cure for All Diseases The Cure for All Advanced Cancers http://www..net/ Perhaps you can call the Research Association for more information. Dr. Research Association 8135 Engineer Road #2748, San Diego, CA. 92111 Tel. 1-800-220-3741, Fax 1-858-565-0058 =========================== Hoxsey Clinic is also in Mexico, but I do not know how effective they are since they no longer have the competent leadership of the nurse who started it. http://members.tripod.com/~hoxsey/ Hope this helps. On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, [iso-8859-1] María a Armendáriz wrote: > Hello > > I want to introduce my self. I also want to know whom I´m talking to and if > this is a market place. Sorry about my english and my expressions. > > I´m from México, actually I live in Mexico. My mother has pancreatic cancer > and the tumour was resected 3 months ago. She is well. I´m a writer, a > novelist and formally work for a press company. I sell nothing and it is > difficult for me to recognize a seller. Specially through a site. I believe > in this place there is too many discussions about a product and it is > difficult to find people´s concerns and alternatives. I propouse to have > links for the products people sells would be nicer for everybody. Don´t you > think so? > > Sorry if I express my self so sincerelly, but neither my mom nor me have > time to go any other way but streight. I can understand the people who sells > some products, like Debbie, who sells immunocal but I believe it would be > wonderfull for everyone to safe time not to be reading about a product all > the time or at least to know wether this is a " product advertisment " , to > name it some how. > > I don´t want to boder any one nor to heart anybodies feelings so please > excuseme if I do. My name is a and I´m here to get support and to > help people with cancer, any way I can. That´s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 ROSYDIXON@... wrote: > Greetings, a-- > Yes, I agree. Those of us on the list for months recognize the names of > those who are selling a product, and read the posting or delete it as we > chose. However, for a new member to the list, it can be very confusing, with > this one saying " you must have this, " and another one saying, " what you > really need is this " . Useful information can be gained from the seller's > postings, however, one should be aware from the beginning that they have a > vested interest in promoting a particular product. > Perhaps anyone making a post concerning any product that they have a > financial interest in, should have to say " ADVERTISEMENT " in the subject > line. What do you think? > > Rosy Hi Rosy, I agree. You have come up with a sensible solution. This way any information will still be available, but all the cards will be on the table. If people do not comply, anyone could reply to the message and add " advertisement " in the subject header when it gets reposted. Bob Karjala My Cure from Stage IV Lung Cancer http://www.essiac-info.org/Bob.html mailto:bobk20@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 Great idea you two! The newslist would benefit from this immensely. It would take some guts to repost someone's message as an advertisement. I have antagonized several MLMers on the list, understandably so. One rule I try to observe to eliminate the effects of negative feedback: " Don't take it personal " Having at least you two and a few others actively engaged in cleaning up the messages encourages me not to drop the banner. There is a major ethical problem out there, not confined to MLM companies. Tainted research. Research that does not tell the whole truth, that on some significant level is tainted to come up with a solution favorable to the manufacturer. The LA Times recently exposed the New England Journal of Medicine for NOT complying with its own policy of stating when an author or researcher had a financial interest in the product being researched. Even the NEJM receives mega-bucks from drug companies, and even they are tainted. I know one thing for sure. Good health never has, and never will be found in a bottle. In thinking about this this past week, I came up with 5 powerful Cs that combined, will stand up pretty strong against Cancer. Clarity: How we created the cancer and are responsible for it and our health. Challenge: Accept the challenge, even welcome it; because we must Change: our thoughts, our diet, our exercise, our environment, our relationships. Communicate: how we all want to give and receive love, and Create: a life with joy and meaning. What do you think? Dr Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 I like the proposal. Perhaps these people could, instead of just posting, do a write up and submit it to the list owner to put the info up as time permits. Sometimes I keep reading the same info over and over and over. I also have another proposal. Perhaps some of the e-mails that are " more personal " and that really don't apply to the " group " could be responded to the individual instead of to the group. When you get an e-mail, you don't have to just click reply - you can click on that person's e-mail address and respond just to them and not to the group. I get over 300 messages a day from different groups and it would be nice not to have to wade through " personal " messages. Melinda W. www.cancure.org Re: A proposal > > >ROSYDIXON@... wrote: > >> Greetings, a-- >> Yes, I agree. Those of us on the list for months recognize the names of >> those who are selling a product, and read the posting or delete it as we >> chose. However, for a new member to the list, it can be very confusing, with >> this one saying " you must have this, " and another one saying, " what you >> really need is this " . Useful information can be gained from the seller's >> postings, however, one should be aware from the beginning that they have a >> vested interest in promoting a particular product. >> Perhaps anyone making a post concerning any product that they have a >> financial interest in, should have to say " ADVERTISEMENT " in the subject >> line. What do you think? >> >> Rosy > >Hi Rosy, > >I agree. You have come up with a sensible solution. This way any information will >still be available, but all the cards will be on the table. If people do not >comply, anyone could reply to the message and add " advertisement " in the subject >header when it gets reposted. > >Bob Karjala >My Cure from Stage IV Lung Cancer >http://www.essiac-info.org/Bob.html >mailto:bobk20@... > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get the most popular downloads on the Web. They¹re new! >They¹re hot! They’re FREE! Utilities, drivers, games. >It’s all here. http://clickhere./click/1613 > > >-- Talk to your group with your own voice! >-- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 To Melinda Wiman and list, Yes, I think that might help to make this list far more efficient. I'm on the verge of going off-list, because it has just become too overwhelming (and, yes, I know about the delete key), but that brings me to yet another proposal. I have found that accurately deleting, and/or using the digest format of this mailing list, has become almost equally difficult, because the replies keep flying back and forth with the SAME SUBJECT LINE, even though the actual content of the message no longer bears any relationship to the subject line. The thread may have started out on " Radiation, " and ten postings later it still says " Radiation " , although the messages have actually been about " Soy " or " New World Order " or whatever. (This is just an example). It requires opening each message to see what it's about. Perhaps if people wanted to bring up a NEW POINT in reference to a particular posting, to save time, they can hit the " reply " key, but CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT THE POINT THEY ARE MAKING. Rosy I like the proposal. Perhaps these people could, instead of just posting, do a write up and submit it to the list owner to put the info up as time permits. Sometimes I keep reading the same info over and over and over. I also have another proposal. Perhaps some of the e-mails that are " more personal " and that really don't apply to the " group " could be responded to the individual instead of to the group. When you get an e-mail, you don't have to just click reply - you can click on that person's e-mail address and respond just to them and not to the group. I get over 300 messages a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 Hey! I was gonna say thaT MYSELF. hIP hIP hOORAY. lOVE lLOYDAt 11:05 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >I like the proposal. Perhaps these people could, instead of just posting, do >a write up and submit it to the list owner to put the info up as time >permits. Sometimes I keep reading the same info over and over and over. > >I also have another proposal. Perhaps some of the e-mails that are " more >personal " and that really don't apply to the " group " could be responded to >the individual instead of to the group. When you get an e-mail, you don't >have to just click reply - you can click on that person's e-mail address and >respond just to them and not to the group. I get over 300 messages a day >from different groups and it would be nice not to have to wade through > " personal " messages. > >Melinda W. >www.cancure.org > > Re: A proposal > > >> >> >>ROSYDIXON@... wrote: >> >>> Greetings, a-- >>> Yes, I agree. Those of us on the list for months recognize the names of >>> those who are selling a product, and read the posting or delete it as we >>> chose. However, for a new member to the list, it can be very confusing, >with >>> this one saying " you must have this, " and another one saying, " what you >>> really need is this " . Useful information can be gained from the seller's >>> postings, however, one should be aware from the beginning that they have >a >>> vested interest in promoting a particular product. >>> Perhaps anyone making a post concerning any product that they have a >>> financial interest in, should have to say " ADVERTISEMENT " in the subject >>> line. What do you think? >>> >>> Rosy >> >>Hi Rosy, >> >>I agree. You have come up with a sensible solution. This way any >information will >>still be available, but all the cards will be on the table. If people do >not >>comply, anyone could reply to the message and add " advertisement " in the >subject >>header when it gets reposted. >> >>Bob Karjala >>My Cure from Stage IV Lung Cancer >>http://www.essiac-info.org/Bob.html >>mailto:bobk20@... >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Get the most popular downloads on the Web. They¹re new! >>They¹re hot! They’re FREE! Utilities, drivers, games. >>It’s all here. http://clickhere./click/1613 >> >> >>-- Talk to your group with your own voice! >>-- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Easy as one, two, FREE! FREE shipping, Gift Wrap and >ShimmerRing with any purchase at iBeauty.com We have >over 500 brands of fragrances, treatment, cosmetics. >http://clickhere./click/1790 > >-- Check out your group's private Chat room >-- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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