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Interesting that they say to avoid milk, but it's ok to eat the milk

that's been aging for 3+ months. Cheese is VERY constipating, for

what it's worth.

I would also, if I were going to eat meat, totally avoid any white

fat in the meat. Lean only. Turkey breast would be my first choice.

The nuts and seeds will be more nutritional if they are raw and

soaked first. Buying roasted salted nuts is asking for trouble.

Depends on the size how long to soak them. What soaking does is wake

up the germination process and bring them to life. When eating raw

seeds and nuts, they have a sprout inhibitor that prevents good

digestion.

I would say the best way to break the spell is not to feed it.

I would eat mostly raw, and everything I ate as fresh as possible.

Very little flesh, it's dead and full of bacteria. Same with cheese.

Instead of yogurt I would take PB-8 or other probiotic every day with

every meal. That alone has gotten rid of infections in my body.

I would totally avoid white or brown sugar (which is white sugar with

molasses added) and go for organic sugar, honey maybe, agave nectar

and maple syrup.

I also eat a little sprouted whole grain breads, well toasted. The

toasting turns the starch to a sugar, which is easier for the body to

handle. Jethro Kloss explained that in his Back to Eden cookbook.

When my stomach is upset, some toast, dry, and a cup of tea, really

settle it. Or maybe a bowl of cooked black japonica rice from

Lundberg farms, with soymilk and maple syrup and fresh ginger.

Garlic! Tony, I almost forgot. Garlic is a wonderful food that kills

germs. I put a whole bulb of garlic in my dinner.

Kathy

>

> Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

foods

> diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

SCDiet

> is a very good idea.

> In this diet, legal foods are :

>

> most fruit

> most vegetables except potatoes

> most cheese

> meats

> nuts and seeds

> legumes

> cultured home made plain yogurt

>

> Illegal foods are :

>

> sugar

> milk

> grains

>

> I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help much

> because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad bacteria

to

> begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

Coconut

> oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods, although it

> doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

that

> I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get this

bad

> bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing off

bad

> bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I think

> this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

>

> For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

>

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

>

> They also have forums at

>

> Joe

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It is interesting about the milk cheese difference. From what I have noticed with my youngest daughter who is gluten intolerant, if she drinks to much milk she becomes symptomatic. But the cheese doesn't seem to affect her like that. I think that the casein in milk is more able to adhere to the villi and thus cause damage than a hardened cheese. That is just my humble opinion. It kind of makes sense when you think about it like that.

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Interesting that they say to avoid milk, but it's ok to eat the milk

that's been aging for 3+ months. Cheese is VERY constipating, for

what it's worth.

I would also, if I were going to eat meat, totally avoid any white

fat in the meat. Lean only. Turkey breast would be my first choice.

The nuts and seeds will be more nutritional if they are raw and

soaked first. Buying roasted salted nuts is asking for trouble.

Depends on the size how long to soak them. What soaking does is wake

up the germination process and bring them to life. When eating raw

seeds and nuts, they have a sprout inhibitor that prevents good

digestion.

I would say the best way to break the spell is not to feed it.

I would eat mostly raw, and everything I ate as fresh as possible.

Very little flesh, it's dead and full of bacteria. Same with cheese.

Instead of yogurt I would take PB-8 or other probiotic every day with

every meal. That alone has gotten rid of infections in my body.

I would totally avoid white or brown sugar (which is white sugar with

molasses added) and go for organic sugar, honey maybe, agave nectar

and maple syrup.

I also eat a little sprouted whole grain breads, well toasted. The

toasting turns the starch to a sugar, which is easier for the body to

handle. Jethro Kloss explained that in his Back to Eden cookbook.

When my stomach is upset, some toast, dry, and a cup of tea, really

settle it. Or maybe a bowl of cooked black japonica rice from

Lundberg farms, with soymilk and maple syrup and fresh ginger.

Garlic! Tony, I almost forgot. Garlic is a wonderful food that kills

germs. I put a whole bulb of garlic in my dinner.

Kathy

>

> Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

foods

> diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

SCDiet

> is a very good idea.

> In this diet, legal foods are :

>

> most fruit

> most vegetables except potatoes

> most cheese

> meats

> nuts and seeds

> legumes

> cultured home made plain yogurt

>

> Illegal foods are :

>

> sugar

> milk

> grains

>

> I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help much

> because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad bacteria

to

> begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

Coconut

> oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods, although it

> doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

that

> I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get this

bad

> bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing off

bad

> bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I think

> this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

>

> For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

>

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

>

> They also have forums at

>

> Joe

>

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The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (Breaking the Vicious Cycle) has a

theory on why some people can eat cheese but not drink milk without it

causing problems. When making cheese, the lactose gets fermented out

of the milk. Lactose takes an extra enzyme for the stomach to digest

and not everyone has this enzyme. If not digested, the lactose sits in

the stomach and becomes food for bad bacteria. Grains also need an

extra enzyme to be digested and cause problems for people the same way.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

> >

> > Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

> foods

> > diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

> SCDiet

> > is a very good idea.

> > In this diet, legal foods are :

> >

> > most fruit

> > most vegetables except potatoes

> > most cheese

> > meats

> > nuts and seeds

> > legumes

> > cultured home made plain yogurt

> >

> > Illegal foods are :

> >

> > sugar

> > milk

> > grains

> >

> > I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help much

> > because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad bacteria

> to

> > begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

> Coconut

> > oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods, although it

> > doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

> that

> > I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get this

> bad

> > bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing off

> bad

> > bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I think

> > this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

> >

> > For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

> >

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

> >

> > They also have forums at

> >

> > Joe

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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If that is the case, why can't you just take an enzyme pill with your meal?

-- [ ] Re: Diet to Keep Bad Bacteria Away

The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (Breaking the Vicious Cycle) has a

theory on why some people can eat cheese but not drink milk without it

causing problems. When making cheese, the lactose gets fermented out

of the milk. Lactose takes an extra enzyme for the stomach to digest

and not everyone has this enzyme. If not digested, the lactose sits in

the stomach and becomes food for bad bacteria. Grains also need an

extra enzyme to be digested and cause problems for people the same way.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

> >

> > Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

> foods

> > diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

> SCDiet

> > is a very good idea.

> > In this diet, legal foods are :

> >

> > most fruit

> > most vegetables except potatoes

> > most cheese

> > meats

> > nuts and seeds

> > legumes

> > cultured home made plain yogurt

> >

> > Illegal foods are :

> >

> > sugar

> > milk

> > grains

> >

> > I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help much

> > because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad bacteria

> to

> > begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

> Coconut

> > oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods, although it

> > doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

> that

> > I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get this

> bad

> > bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing off

> bad

> > bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I think

> > this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

> >

> > For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

> >

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

> >

> > They also have forums at

> >

> > Joe

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kat,

I've tried every diet there is and personally I just don't believe in

eating a high % of raw foods. Raw foods are not easy for many people

to digest. They say more Pro Vitamin A is absorbed from cooked carrot

than raw. I do not believe eating raw foods helps the enzyme status in

the body. Only taking plant enzymes or other digestive enzymes can do

that, IMHO. When vegetables are cooked, the fibers are much easier to

eat and digest. The enzymes in eating raw food, IMHO, do not help to

digest themselves. I ate 100% raw for 3 months in 2000, according to

Wolfe's book TSDSS. It's just not for me, not practical. It

looked good on paper but not in real life. In the Winter, many of us

need cooked foods even more, IMHO. The only foods I really prefer raw

are fruits, and SCD even recommends that some people cook their fruit,

especially in the beginning. Undigested fibers in raw produce can be

hard for people with GI illness to digest.

Raw milk cheese is the best to eat, and organic. It's not constipating

to me. I've tended toward loose bowels for quite a while now. Some of

the cheap, pasteurized cheeses are more or less garbage, IMHO. Another

cheese that's easy[er] to digest is goat cheese. We're all different.

For some people, cheese can probably be a challenge. For others, it

can be a good protein source with very little carbohydrate that will

not contribute to their bad bacteria. Dairy probably does cause mucus,

so in the long run it may be a good idea to avoid it, and I may.

SCD makes good sense to me. Cheese has almost no carbs at all. All the

lactose in it has been cultured and is gone. SCD's home made yogurt is

said to have 50 times more probiotic than taking 15 billion strength

capsules of probiotic. One cup of it has 708 billion beneficial

bacteria. They ferment it for a full 24 hours. This gets rid of all

the lactose and makes a very sour yogurt that's better with fruit.

with capsules, they weaken over time. Fresh SCD yogurt is guaranteed

to be high in friendly bac.

SCD has helped lots of people worldwide with UC, IBD, CD, IBS, LGS,

CFS, Candida, and other GI tract illnesses. Many people swear by it.

I've eaten fatty meat for years and my cholesterol is only about 210.

Sometimes the meat (I get it all from one grass fed beef farmer) is

more fatty and will spit and smoke in the broiler if I don't watch it.

I eat that meat anyway. Grass fed beef is IMHO, the best way to

prevent excess Omega 6. It has a healthy balance of Omega 3 and 6

fats. I believe saturated fats are the best fats of all.

I personally believe grains are more damaging to the GI tract than

meat. Grains are one acid producing food that I can do without. It's

not easy to adjust to it but I will eventually. No more pizza once a

week, no more rice at the Chinese restaurant once a week, not more egg

on toast, no more bowls of organic oatmeal for breakfast.

I know people that are vegans, and are nice people. I also know people

that have quit grains and say they are better w/o them. Grains may be

fine for some people but I don't think they are good for me. Grain may

appear to be OK for me in the short run but in the long run I believe

I'm better off w/o them.

I'm going to do the Caveman Diet, and this time maybe permanently. The

Caveman way is probably better than SCD, but the SCD principals apply

to much of the Caveman Diet by avoiding grain, potatoes, and milk. I

may quit legumes too, as they, like grain, hinder mineral absorption.

Many Cavemen don't eat any dairy foods either. Dairy is something I

can take or leave. I may eat SCD yogurt just for now to increase the

friendly bac in my GI tract.

Honey (and saccharin) is, I think, the only legal sweeteners in SCD.

Agave is an " illegal " food. Someone like me needs to really limit

honey in the beginning.

Joe

--- In , " Kat " <makiah@...>

wrote:

>

> Interesting that they say to avoid milk, but it's ok to eat the milk

> that's been aging for 3+ months. Cheese is VERY constipating, for

> what it's worth.

>

> I would also, if I were going to eat meat, totally avoid any white

> fat in the meat. Lean only. Turkey breast would be my first choice.

>

> The nuts and seeds will be more nutritional if they are raw and

> soaked first. Buying roasted salted nuts is asking for trouble.

> Depends on the size how long to soak them. What soaking does is wake

> up the germination process and bring them to life. When eating raw

> seeds and nuts, they have a sprout inhibitor that prevents good

> digestion.

>

> I would say the best way to break the spell is not to feed it.

> I would eat mostly raw, and everything I ate as fresh as possible.

> Very little flesh, it's dead and full of bacteria. Same with cheese.

>

> Instead of yogurt I would take PB-8 or other probiotic every day with

> every meal. That alone has gotten rid of infections in my body.

>

> I would totally avoid white or brown sugar (which is white sugar with

> molasses added) and go for organic sugar, honey maybe, agave nectar

> and maple syrup.

>

> I also eat a little sprouted whole grain breads, well toasted. The

> toasting turns the starch to a sugar, which is easier for the body to

> handle. Jethro Kloss explained that in his Back to Eden cookbook.

> When my stomach is upset, some toast, dry, and a cup of tea, really

> settle it. Or maybe a bowl of cooked black japonica rice from

> Lundberg farms, with soymilk and maple syrup and fresh ginger.

>

> Garlic! Tony, I almost forgot. Garlic is a wonderful food that kills

> germs. I put a whole bulb of garlic in my dinner.

>

> Kathy

>

>

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Tony, How about writing out what some of the initials you use mean for the initial challenged like me.LOL It looks interesting and I might understand what you wrote if you would be so kind. Thanks, IN NCtonytaptoe <joe525us@...> wrote: Hi Kat,I've tried every diet there is and personally I just don't believe ineating a high % of raw foods. Raw foods are not easy

for many peopleto digest. They say more Pro Vitamin A is absorbed from cooked carrotthan raw. I do not believe eating raw foods helps the enzyme status inthe body. Only taking plant enzymes or other digestive enzymes can dothat, IMHO. When vegetables are cooked, the fibers are much easier toeat and digest. The enzymes in eating raw food, IMHO, do not help todigest themselves. I ate 100% raw for 3 months in 2000, according to Wolfe's book TSDSS. It's just not for me, not practical. Itlooked good on paper but not in real life. In the Winter, many of usneed cooked foods even more, IMHO. The only foods I really prefer raware fruits, and SCD even recommends that some people cook their fruit,especially in the beginning. Undigested fibers in raw produce can behard for people with GI illness to digest.Raw milk cheese is the best to eat, and organic. It's not constipatingto me. I've tended toward loose bowels for

quite a while now. Some ofthe cheap, pasteurized cheeses are more or less garbage, IMHO. Anothercheese that's easy[er] to digest is goat cheese. We're all different.For some people, cheese can probably be a challenge. For others, itcan be a good protein source with very little carbohydrate that willnot contribute to their bad bacteria. Dairy probably does cause mucus,so in the long run it may be a good idea to avoid it, and I may.SCD makes good sense to me. Cheese has almost no carbs at all. All thelactose in it has been cultured and is gone. SCD's home made yogurt issaid to have 50 times more probiotic than taking 15 billion strengthcapsules of probiotic. One cup of it has 708 billion beneficialbacteria. They ferment it for a full 24 hours. This gets rid of allthe lactose and makes a very sour yogurt that's better with fruit.with capsules, they weaken over time. Fresh SCD yogurt is guaranteedto be high in

friendly bac.SCD has helped lots of people worldwide with UC, IBD, CD, IBS, LGS,CFS, Candida, and other GI tract illnesses. Many people swear by it.I've eaten fatty meat for years and my cholesterol is only about 210.Sometimes the meat (I get it all from one grass fed beef farmer) ismore fatty and will spit and smoke in the broiler if I don't watch it.I eat that meat anyway. Grass fed beef is IMHO, the best way toprevent excess Omega 6. It has a healthy balance of Omega 3 and 6fats. I believe saturated fats are the best fats of all.I personally believe grains are more damaging to the GI tract thanmeat. Grains are one acid producing food that I can do without. It'snot easy to adjust to it but I will eventually. No more pizza once aweek, no more rice at the Chinese restaurant once a week, not more eggon toast, no more bowls of organic oatmeal for breakfast.I know people that are vegans, and are nice people.

I also know peoplethat have quit grains and say they are better w/o them. Grains may befine for some people but I don't think they are good for me. Grain mayappear to be OK for me in the short run but in the long run I believeI'm better off w/o them.I'm going to do the Caveman Diet, and this time maybe permanently. TheCaveman way is probably better than SCD, but the SCD principals applyto much of the Caveman Diet by avoiding grain, potatoes, and milk. Imay quit legumes too, as they, like grain, hinder mineral absorption.Many Cavemen don't eat any dairy foods either. Dairy is something Ican take or leave. I may eat SCD yogurt just for now to increase thefriendly bac in my GI tract.Honey (and saccharin) is, I think, the only legal sweeteners in SCD.Agave is an "illegal" food. Someone like me needs to really limithoney in the beginning.Joe--- In , "Kat" <makiah@...>wrote:>> Interesting that they say to avoid milk, but it's ok to eat the milk > that's been aging for 3+ months. Cheese is VERY constipating, for > what it's worth.> > I would also, if I were going to eat meat, totally avoid any white > fat in the meat. Lean only. Turkey breast would be my first choice.> > The nuts and seeds will be more nutritional if they are raw and > soaked first. Buying roasted salted nuts is asking for trouble. > Depends on the size how long to soak them. What soaking does is wake > up the germination process and bring them to life. When eating raw > seeds and nuts, they have a sprout inhibitor that prevents good > digestion.> > I would say the best way to break the spell is not to feed

it.> I would eat mostly raw, and everything I ate as fresh as possible. > Very little flesh, it's dead and full of bacteria. Same with cheese.> > Instead of yogurt I would take PB-8 or other probiotic every day with > every meal. That alone has gotten rid of infections in my body.> > I would totally avoid white or brown sugar (which is white sugar with > molasses added) and go for organic sugar, honey maybe, agave nectar > and maple syrup.> > I also eat a little sprouted whole grain breads, well toasted. The > toasting turns the starch to a sugar, which is easier for the body to > handle. Jethro Kloss explained that in his Back to Eden cookbook.> When my stomach is upset, some toast, dry, and a cup of tea, really > settle it. Or maybe a bowl of cooked black japonica rice from > Lundberg farms, with soymilk and maple syrup and fresh ginger.> >

Garlic! Tony, I almost forgot. Garlic is a wonderful food that kills > germs. I put a whole bulb of garlic in my dinner. > > Kathy> > Wilkins

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Maybe you can just take enzymes and have the same effect. I don't know.

> > >

> > > Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

> > foods

> > > diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

> > SCDiet

> > > is a very good idea.

> > > In this diet, legal foods are :

> > >

> > > most fruit

> > > most vegetables except potatoes

> > > most cheese

> > > meats

> > > nuts and seeds

> > > legumes

> > > cultured home made plain yogurt

> > >

> > > Illegal foods are :

> > >

> > > sugar

> > > milk

> > > grains

> > >

> > > I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help much

> > > because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad bacteria

> > to

> > > begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

> > Coconut

> > > oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods, although it

> > > doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

> > that

> > > I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get this

> > bad

> > > bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing off

> > bad

> > > bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I think

> > > this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

> > >

> > > For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

> > >

> > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

> > >

> > > They also have forums at

> > >

> > > Joe

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'd prefer to be called Joe, which is why I sign Joe at the end of my

posts.

IMHO- in my honest opinion

SDSS - Sunfood Diet Success System

The other initials are all GI tract diseases. http://scd.com ,

http://scd.org , etc., has all that info if you're interested.

Joe

>

> Tony,

> How about writing out what some of the initials you use mean

for the initial challenged like me.LOL It looks interesting and I

might understand what you wrote if you would be so kind.

> Thanks,

> IN NC

>

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Thanks ,Joe IN NCtonytaptoe <joe525us@...> wrote: I'd prefer to be called Joe, which is why I sign Joe at the end of myposts. IMHO- in my honest opinionSDSS - Sunfood Diet Success SystemThe other initials are all GI tract diseases. http://scd.com ,http://scd.org , etc., has all that info if you're interested.Joe>> Tony,> How about writing out what some of the initials you use mean for the initial challenged like me.LOL It looks interesting and Imight understand what you wrote if you would be so kind.> Thanks, > IN NC> Wilkins

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Meat is difficult for me to digest. I am using kirkman enzymes

designed to help digest grains and caisen. I love cheese but it is

mold if aged and I am allergic to mold. It is difficult to eat right

and to know which way to eat. joyce

>

> The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (Breaking the Vicious Cycle) has a

> theory on why some people can eat cheese but not drink milk without

it

> causing problems. When making cheese, the lactose gets fermented out

> of the milk. Lactose takes an extra enzyme for the stomach to digest

> and not everyone has this enzyme. If not digested, the lactose sits

in

> the stomach and becomes food for bad bacteria. Grains also need an

> extra enzyme to be digested and cause problems for people the same

way.

>

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Lately I've wondered what I should eat (out of the umpteen whole

> > foods

> > > diets I've eaten in the last 25 years) and actually I think the

> > SCDiet

> > > is a very good idea.

> > > In this diet, legal foods are :

> > >

> > > most fruit

> > > most vegetables except potatoes

> > > most cheese

> > > meats

> > > nuts and seeds

> > > legumes

> > > cultured home made plain yogurt

> > >

> > > Illegal foods are :

> > >

> > > sugar

> > > milk

> > > grains

> > >

> > > I was on this diet once about 5 years ago but it didn't help

much

> > > because I didn't have an anti-fungal to get rid of the bad

bacteria

> > to

> > > begin with. I would have been wise to stay on it but I didn't.

> > Coconut

> > > oil seems to be able to allow me to eat high carb foods,

although it

> > > doesn't do anything for the systemic bad bacteria infection. Now

> > that

> > > I've found MMS and UT, I might be able to one day finally get

this

> > bad

> > > bac in order and keep it in order. I don't want to be killing

off

> > bad

> > > bac with MMS and UT and be feeding it at the same time. :) I

think

> > > this diet makes sense and is something I don't mind being on.

> > >

> > > For anyone that's interested in it, here's a link :

> > >

> > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/index.htm

> > >

> > > They also have forums at

> > >

> > > Joe

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I went to Costco today and they had carrot juice and mango smoothies.

I bought a case of each. That will be my staple for breakfast and

lunch.

No big fibers to chew. Full of enzymes, so easy to digest.

I have dicovered I don't chew my food very well: my poop is full of

seeds and pieces of food. Sesame seeds I gave up on a long time ago.

I only eat tahini now. I'll still eat some chewy things. I also got

apples and bananas, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocados, celery, green

beans, peas. I'll still be cooking for dinner.

I've never been able to go a long time raw, but I did back when I was

20, right after I got hepatitis, before I knew it. I ate nothing but

fruit all summer. Mostly in smoothies. I lost 30 unwanted pounds. It

felt great! I did eat some corn and squash and stuff for my birthday

in August, then went back to the fruit until Sept. I never really

felt starved, if I got hungry, I made another fruit smoothie.

I had tremendous energy and felt great! But my mom broke my spirit

and told me I was anorexic and I ate just to shut her

up....sigh....why did I make her so important?

I also, a few years later, tried the no carb diet, where you eat all

the fat and protein you want. After 2 weeks I crashed. I got really

weirded out, like an adrenaline crisis. Panicky. I gave that up.

Another diet that worked well is the Covert Fit or Fat Diet.

It puts food on a target and you go for the bull's eye. The bull's

eye is low fat, high protein, and high fiber. Food in the bull's eye

were skim milk, fat free chicken, fish, turkey, whole grains and

whole fruits and vegetables, no juices as they have no fiber. I lost

10 pounds in a month.

Recently I've lost 10 pounds and 2 pant sizes. MMS diet. LOL

Kathy

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If they are treated for "freshness", in bottles or cans or something, they just may have changed their nature, so aim in time to switch to fresh if possible. I used to buy bottles of fruit juice and so on, but found that the processing changes the nature from alkaline to acid.

Re your seeds and pieces of food - when I was going to a naturopath and doing the cleanse I mentioned something similar to her and she said that is the digestion. It all ought to be smooth and processed. She gave me a bottle of gentian to take. Google digestive herbs, see what you find.

The Fit for Life diet suited me when I did it. Only fruit until lunchtime, then don't mix carbs and protein.

R

"Gentian–Gentiana calyosa–fresh root and rhizome Gentian is an excellent bitter which, as do all bitters, stimulates the appetite and digestion via a general stimulation of the digestive juices. It helps promote the production of saliva, gastric juices and bile. It is indicated for sluggish digestion, lack of appetite, gastric distress and flatulence."

Kathy said : I went to Costco today and they had carrot juice and mango smoothies. I bought a case of each.

I have dicovered I don't chew my food very well: my poop is full of seeds and pieces of food.

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yoweeee..... feed me anytime!!!

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Right now I'll just check my pH. dum de dumm dummm.... ok, my pH

> after having for breakfast a fruit smoothie made with 8 oz Naked's

> mango fruit smoothie, 1/2 frozen banana, 1/4 cup frozen homegrown

> raspberries, 1/2 cup frozen strawberries, and some frozen mango apple

> juice concentrate and RO water, and 4 tsp of Earthrise Spirulina; and

> two pieces of sprouted whole wheat/sesame bread with homemade cashew

> butter with olive oil and Real Salt, I just checked my pH. It's

> around 7.5. I guess I don't need to be concerned about freshness

> treating the way I use the juice.

>

> I'll be sure to test an hour after drinking the carrot juice, which I

> may mix with fresh celery juice....we shall see.

>

> Interesting information, thanks for the sharing.

>

> Kathy

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