Re: PCA Vaccine - Getting the facts straight

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The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young man, 18,

names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy, for a

Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway, without the

experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His parents,

friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish the

research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these posts, or

anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are both

gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in September,

not last week.

Rosy

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Thanks for the clarification Rosie.

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Why do you people, especially you want to argue all the time...get the facts

straight before you send info out....yes, I think you should straighten out

and remove yourself...

Diane

Re: PCA Vaccine - Getting the facts straight

>Not exactly the way I read it in the Tulsa World, our town's daily

>newspaper. And that boy nor anybody else has to " die anyway " just because

>Rosy or some other fatalist thinks so. I got one vote on the personal line

>from Rosy to " get on the bus Gus " , and get off the web unless I conform to

>somebody I'm not. I love you all. Sorry I'm such a mess. Maybe I get it

>right in some sort of reincarnated next lifetime. Is that what you believe

>Rosy?

>Godspeed,

>Joe Peppe X

>

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>

>

>> --

>> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young man,

>18,

>> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy,

>for a

>> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway, without

>the

>> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His

>parents,

>> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish

the

>> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

>> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these

posts,

>or

>> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are

>both

>> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in

September,

>> not last week.

>>

>> Rosy

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Not exactly the way I read it in the Tulsa World, our town's daily

newspaper. And that boy nor anybody else has to " die anyway " just because

Rosy or some other fatalist thinks so. I got one vote on the personal line

from Rosy to " get on the bus Gus " , and get off the web unless I conform to

somebody I'm not. I love you all. Sorry I'm such a mess. Maybe I get it

right in some sort of reincarnated next lifetime. Is that what you believe

Rosy?

Godspeed,

Joe Peppe X

Re: PCA Vaccine - Getting the facts straight

> --

> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young man,

18,

> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy,

for a

> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway, without

the

> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His

parents,

> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish the

> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these posts,

or

> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are

both

> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in September,

> not last week.

>

> Rosy

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Dear Cancercure group,

If you read how they killed the boy you will also conclude it was the gene

therapy that killed him not the type of cancer that killed him.

Godspeed,

Joe Peppe XX

Re: PCA Vaccine - Getting the facts straight

> >

> >

> >> --

> >> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young

man,

> >18,

> >> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy,

> >for a

> >> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway,

without

> >the

> >> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His

> >parents,

> >> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish

> the

> >> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> >> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these

> posts,

> >or

> >> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are

> >both

> >> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in

> September,

> >> not last week.

> >>

> >> Rosy

> >>

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Yes and he was not KILLED. During an interview the father agreed the research

trial was all that was left. The family had hoped the therapy would have been

more successful. The team of reseachers had done all that was possible.

Someone

find the total story and quote correctly the findings.

ROSYDIXON@... wrote:

> --

> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young man, 18,

> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy, for a

> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway, without the

> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His parents,

> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish the

> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these posts, or

> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are both

> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in September,

> not last week.

>

> Rosy

>

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Sorry, I am very much for research and every time something like this happens

it adds more regulations. Causes all the Government agencies to put

out propaganda about improper procedures and putting down any advancement.

After my research on cancer and trials do I bring lawsuits against the

vitamin companies, food growers and etc?

Go to

http://newscenter.about.com/health/1999/12/13/health/0000-0025-reuters.health.html

www.webmd.lycos.com/headlines/1/10

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Norvil Sims wrote:

Yes and he was not KILLED. During an interview

the father agreed the research

trial was all that was left. The family had hoped the therapy

would have been

more successful. The team of reseachers had done all that was

possible. Someone

find the total story and quote correctly the findings.

ROSYDIXON@... wrote:

> --

> The "boy" that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young

man, 18,

> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy,

for a

> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway,

without the

> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage.

His parents,

> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but

wish the

> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these

posts, or

> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that

they are both

> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died

in September,

> not last week.

>

> Rosy

>

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Joe, Knock it off. This was not cancer treatment but research to develop a cure

for cancer. If you don't want such research to take place perhaps you should

take yourself to someplace else as I, and the majority of us on the list do. I

honor the boy who died. He and his parents knew there was a risk and took it

anyway. I also honor the researchers who suppressed their own feelings about

subjecting others to the risk, perhaps only for monitary reasons but still doing

what must be done. There IS the matter of drug companies suppressing natural

cures that may compete with them but that is a completely different subject.

Please don't post your personal negative opinions. They are off the subject of

this list and we don't want to hear them.

Phil

Re: PCA Vaccine - Getting the facts straight

> >

> >

> >> --

> >> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young

man,

> >18,

> >> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene therapy,

> >for a

> >> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway,

without

> >the

> >> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His

> >parents,

> >> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but wish

> the

> >> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> >> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these

> posts,

> >or

> >> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they are

> >both

> >> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in

> September,

> >> not last week.

> >>

> >> Rosy

> >>

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The following is a short quote from the article re: PCa vaccine:

" Within four weeks of vaccination, the researchers were able to detect

circulation of immune cells throughout the bloodstream. Patients'

B-cells produced antibodies against prostate cells, and their T-cells

directly attacked the tumor, the researchers report. Once re-educated

to see prostate cells as foreign bodies, antigens on the cells' surface

serve as red flags to the immune system, causing it to seek out and

destroy them. "

Looking further into the matter at the s Hopkins web site, it blew

my mind to learn that cancer cells (PCa at least), devilish things that

they are, have the ability to mask themselves so that the immune system

does not recognize them as a problem. This means that AFTER I have the

disease, if I end up with the stongest immune system on the planet, it

will not kill the cancer cells. On the other hand, from a prevention

standpoint, building the immune system is a must.

norvil sims <nwsim-@...> wrote:

original article:cures for cancer/?start=4669

> Sorry, I am very much for research and every time something like this

happens it adds

> more regulations. Causes all the Government agencies to put out

propaganda about

> improper procedures and putting down any advancement.

>

> After my research on cancer and trials do I bring lawsuits against

the vitamin

> companies, food growers and etc?

> Go to

>

> http://newscenter.about.com/health/1999/12/13/health/0000-0025-reuter

s.health.html

> www.webmd.lycos.com/headlines/1/10

>

> -Search the urls.

>

> Norvil Sims wrote:

>

> > Yes and he was not KILLED. During an interview the father agreed

the research

> > trial was all that was left. The family had hoped the therapy

would have been

> > more successful. The team of reseachers had done all that was

possible. Someone

> > find the total story and quote correctly the findings.

> >

> > ROSYDIXON@... wrote:

> >

> > > --

> > > The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a

young man, 18,

> > > names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene

therapy, for a

> > > Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway,

without the

> > > experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage.

His parents,

> > > friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but

wish the

> > > research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be

saved.

> > > What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in

these posts, or

> > > anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that

they are both

> > > gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in

September,

> > > not last week.

> > >

> > > Rosy

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Joe dear, please stay with the group. I for one appreciate your posts. It's

not easy to keep from offending someone in this group. I believe your hearts

in the right place so don't go away.Sincerely, JudyHoffman

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> > >

> > >

> > >> --

> > >> The " boy " that Joe Peppe referred to who died, was actually a young

> man,

> > >18,

> > >> names Gelsinger, who indeed died of an experimental gene

therapy,

> > >for a

> > >> Urea Cycle Disorder. He would have died of the disorder anyway,

> without

> > >the

> > >> experiment. They were still trying to find the right dosage. His

> > >parents,

> > >> friends, and others with the disease, are obviously saddened, but

wish

> > the

> > >> research in gene therapy to go on, so ultimately others can be saved.

> > >> What died of was NOT the PCA Vaccine being discussed in these

> > posts,

> > >or

> > >> anything to do with prostate cancer. Other than the fact that they

are

> > >both

> > >> gene therapies they are not related. By the way, died in

> > September,

> > >> not last week.

> > >>

> > >> Rosy

> > >>

> >

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