Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 This is shocking. The article is mostly talking about Europe and the near East. Are we in the U.S. being force fed flouride too? I have a well so there is no chlorine or flourine in my water but what about our salt? What about Celtic salt? I didn't see anything about that. Thanks, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'm not throwing out my salt until it is determined that the source of this information is truly reliable. Anyone? Ballady > > This is shocking. The article is mostly talking about Europe and the > near East. Are we in the U.S. being force fed flouride too? I have a > well so there is no chlorine or flourine in my water but what about > our salt? > > What about Celtic salt? I didn't see anything about that. > > Thanks, > Jill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I am also adopting a wait and see attitude here. If the company marketing the salt can be trusted, and the stuff truly does come from one of those " ancient sea bed " sources, then the flouride would most likely be *Calcium* flouride, not sodium. The whole " flouride prevents cavities " circus started with studies from Deaf County in TX, decades ago. Seems the population there had a much lower incidence of dental caries than almost anywhere else. The cause was traced to the naturally occurring *calcium* flouride in the water there. Of course the sodium flouride industry (sodium flouride is derived from the tailings of the aluminum industry---it was deemed very unsafe to dispose of these anywhere on the earth, so they decided to put them in the human body via water, toothpaste and associated products!) used the Deaf County studies to promote the poisonous form of flouride. They conveniently neglected to mention the difference between calcium flouride and poisonous sodium flouride. Nowhere in this article do I find the actual study report, or who performed the tests. The other thing this article erroneously does is lump iodine in with flouride as a poison. Something fishy here? I hope someone, somewhere, knowledgeable can check the claims of this article, and perform an accurate analysis and settle the matter. Starshar > I'm not throwing out my salt until it is determined that the source of > this information is truly reliable. Anyone? > > Ballady > > >> >> This is shocking. The article is mostly talking about Europe and the >> near East. Are we in the U.S. being force fed flouride too? I have a >> well so there is no chlorine or flourine in my water but what about >> our salt? >> >> What about Celtic salt? I didn't see anything about that. >> >> Thanks, >> Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hi Dana, Do we know that RealSalt doesn't also contain high levels of fluoride? Thanks, Avril In , " Dana Black " <danablack@...> wrote: > > This article is from the PFPC -- Fluoride Education Project web site. > > http://bruha.com/pfpc/index.html > > I'm tossing all my Himalayan and will be using only RealSalt. . . > > Dana > > > > " Himalaya Salt " [contains high levels of fluoride] > > C2003 PFPC > > http://bruha.com/pfpc/html/himalaya.html > > > > Over the last few years a new scam has emerged in Europe which is rapidly > spreading across the world. It involves ordinary rock salt from the " salt > range " in Pakistan being marketed as luxurious and healing " Himalaya Salt " . > It is also sold as " Himalayan Crystal Salt " , " Hunza-Kristallsalz " or natural > " Kristallsalz " , " VitaSal " , " AromaLife " , etc.. The scam is currently being > introduced in India and the United States. It will result in very high > overall fluoride intake in anyone who follows the various " therapy > recommendations " . > > > > What happened? > > During the late 1990s recordings started to appear in Germany, featuring a > monologue by a self-proclaimed " biophysicist " named Ferreira. The > monologue centered around the " marvelous healing energies " of " Himalaya > Salt " (Himalaya Salz) and " living waters " (Lebendiges Wasser) -> mineral or > springwaters ( " Quellwasser " ). This special salt was allegedly coming from > the high mountain regions of the Himalayas, " untouched by human > contamination " , containing " 84 elements essential to human health " . > > > > The tape was copied and passed on by thousands. The salt was sold at a price > much higher than ordinary salt, up to 200 times as much. It was common to > see it being sold for 24 Euros per kilogram. > > > > Lectures were organized and a video called " Water & Salt " ( " Wasser & Salz " ) > was shown to packed houses (Zeit & Geist, 2002). A book with the title > " Water & Salt - Essence of Life " by Ferreira and Dr. med. Barbara > Hendel became a runaway bestseller in 2002 - simply by word of mouth, even > spawning a glossy magazine with the same title. [The book is currently being > translated into English and slated for release in the US.] > > > > Within months " Himalaya Salt " became all the rage in Switzerland, Austria > and Germany, quickly spreading to Denmark, Holland and other European > countries.The European alternative health industry was quick to jump on the > bandwagon and an article on " Himalaya Salt " praising its superior qualities > to conventional salt became the most-read article on the German site of > " Alternative Health " ( " Alternative Gesundheit). > > > > " Himalaya Salt " sales are consistently in the Top 10 of " alternative health > products " . Originally marketed on the Internet, there are now countless > varieties of products containing " Himalaya Salt " available, including herbal > salts, bath salts, facial masks, cosmetic lines, as well as salt lamps and > tealights. Many international websites can now be found praising and selling > this " Elixir of Live " , " Fountain of Youth " , or " salt of life " . > > > > The salt comes as fine salt to be used for cooking, or as salt crystals or > blocks of salt, to be used for daily " sole " drinks and baths, oral rinses, > eye baths, and inhalation therapy. In addition, the salt is marketed > extensively for other uses, and there are now tealights or " salt lamps " > (used as natural " ionizers " ), a complete cosmetic line including soaps, > facial sprays, body lotions, " peeling " lotions, hand creams, steam bath > aids, sauna aids, bath salts with rose petals, and shower gels. > > > > Fluoride & Iodine > > Ironically, " Water & Salt " proclaimed that iodine and fluoride are " highly > toxic " and should never be added to cooking salt (August 4, 2002). This > statement immediately seemed odd to a sceptic, as both " toxins " , fluoride > and iodine, were also listed among the salt's " 84 natural elements essential > for the body " . > > > > The fluoride/iodine issue nevertheless became a cornerstone in the > promotional campaign. Valuable books on the un-wanted effects of fluoride > (Ziegelbecker) and iodine supplementation (Braunschweig-i) were found in > the on-line bookstore of " Wasser & Salz " . However, W & S failed to inform the > public that this very same " Himalaya Salt " may easily possess more fluoride > than conventional, artificially fluoridated salt. Numerous analyses which > had been posted on the web by AromaLife AG itself (Switzerland's biggest > distributor of " Himalaya Salt " ) - to show that it complied with CODEX > regulations - showed this clearly. > > > > Fluoride in Mineral Water > > In addition, the " Water & Salt " people also started to recommend mineral > waters which qualified as " living waters " , and handed out " Seals of > Quality " . One such water, Artesia received this recommendation, although > containing 1.02 ppm of fluoride - a fact which is aggressively marketed by > the company which firmly believes in the proclaimed " fluoride benefits " . > > > > Origin of " Himalaya Salt " > > It is claimed that the " magic salt " is coming from the Karakorum (Ferreira, > 2002). However, as pointed out by the group TourismWatch (No.28 and No.30) > there is no salt mine to be found anywhere in this Himalayan region. Most of > the salt was coming from the second largest salt mine in the world, in > Pakistan. After the boom began, it was found that even ordinary road salt > was being sold as " Himalaya Salt " by ruthless opportunists. > > > > Public Health Response > > The responses by the Public Health Departments in Switzerland and Germany > have been on the verge of the comical. The Swiss " Fluor-und Jodkommission " > warned the public against the scam and issued statements of concern about > the influx of imported specialty salts such as " Himalaya Salt " . In 2001, the > SEV warned that under no circumstances could this salt " without fluoride and > iodine " ever substitute for the Swiss salt. At no point did it apparently > occur to the health agencies to conduct their own analyses on the product! > > > > Applications: > > > > Cooking/Baking > > Not only is " Himalaya Salt " marketed as the best alternative to > conventional cooking salt - and to be used in all cooking and baking as well > as table use - it is also to be sprinkled onto already prepared foods. New > varieties of herbal salts are also now available. Every morning a teaspoon - > sometimes more - of a 26% " sole " solution is added to a glass of mineral > water and routinely drunk by millions. > > > > Topical Applications > > > > Salt - Baths > > As one of the " best applications " people are advised to bath with this salt > once a week, or with " moon baths " during new and full moons. 1 to 1.5 kg is > added to 80 - 100 liters of water. Temperature is to be between 35 and 37 > degrees celsius for a length of a minumum of 15 to 20 minutes (up to 2 - 3 > hours!). At 1 kg in 100 liters, and at a fluoride content of 300 ppm, this > is the same as bathing in water fluoridated at 3 ppm. Not much different > than the fluoridated baths which were used with great success by Gorlitzer > von Mundy in the treatment of iodine-induced hyperthyroidism (Jod Basedow) > for over 30 years! In addition, people are advised to bath their feet in a > 10% salt/water solution, which results bathing the feet in water with a > fluoride content of 30 ppm. > > > > Personal Care Products > > Daily topical fluoride intake is assured by use of the cosmetic line which > includes soaps, facial sprays, body lotions, hand creams, shampoos, steam > bath aids, sauna aids, bath salts with rose petals, and shower gels. > Complete cosmetic lines are now offered by Aromalife, as well as " Wasser und > Salz " . > > > > Inhalation > > People with asthma and like-conditions are advised by " health trainers " to > add a little " Himalaya Salt " (10%!) to hot water and to inhale this > concoction for 10 to 15 minutes with a covered head, three times a day. > > > > Oral Health > > People are advised to use this salt for toothbrushing. One will get " white > teeth " and the " dental enamel gets dissolved " , it is claimed...! Of course > it is also advised to rinse the mouth with the same sole which is drunk in > the morning. > > > > One is reminded of the incredible feat by Mr. " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " Dr. > Wallach and associated independent distributors who have managed to con > people into believing that the " All Natural Tooth Gel " is a " safe natural > alternative to fluoride toothpaste " , although the actual label on the > toothpaste specifies sodium fluoride as ingredient! > > > > Rainer Neuhaus > > PFPC Germany > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think one thing to realize is that natural fluoride which is in the sea and in all sea salt, including Real Salt, is different from the crap that they put into the water supply. The stuff they add to the water is a waste product, a by product from the fertilizer industry. I read an article on it awhile back. To make, I believe, Phosphate, they use fluorophosphate. They refine it to take out the fluoride, and the fluoride collects on scrubbers inside the smoke stacks. They gather this and add it to the water supply. If you're not disgusted yet, maybe this will help. Before the scrubbers were put into place to keep the fluoride from leaving the smoke stacks and settling on the nearby lands, it was causing mutation in livestock and stunted growth in both livestock and crops. That's the way I remember it. I may not have a perfect memory. I just checked Realsalt.com and the analysis shows 12.6 ppm of fluoride, which is NOT from the smoke stacks, but a natural fluoride which should not harm you. http://www.realsalt.com/images/realsalt_analysis.pdf There's gold in there too! That's a lot less than 300 ppm alledged to be in Himalayan Salt. 25 times more. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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