Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hello Arrow Are you telling me that if someone (me, for example) was selling a product through an MLM company that possibly could help your sister to become cancer-free, for example, that you would not want to hear about it? When you limit which products it is ok to talk about and which are not, you are limiting your options. As one person in this group said, "I am looking for something that works and I don't care if it is from MLM or not." The moderator of this group has said that we can talk about products, even those from MLM Cos, as long as it is not spam which I took to mean some form of in-your-face advertising to the group. I am talking about the products I represent in the same manner as you would talk about some other products you found on some other website. There is no obligation to buy them or even to check out my particular products, if you would rather not. I talk about the products I represent more than others perhaps because I make it my business to know every possible thing about them that I can whereas if I refer someone to someone else's website I do not know as much about those products naturally, but I make a point of saying what I know and do not know, and if I have used them or not. I also think, in fairness to you all, it is important to mention that I be open about the fact that I am a representative for a company or not so you can judge if I might be biased toward my products, and frankly I am, since I took considerable trouble to look for companies that are reputable and have some of the best products and to learn as much as possible about them. If people know and they don't like it that I am a rep, they can choose not to order them.Some people talk about other products being cheaper and in some cases that is true when you are talking about an initial purchase. There are some people in this group who would be hard-pressed to come up with even $10 for a product. The beauty of MLM is that you can, if you wish, get your products free (or paid for) by referring a few others. I order about $200 worth of supplements a month and it costs me nothing. This is available to anyone who wants it except it might be difficult to earn anything with the URI company. I respect every one's choices. It is for them to make and not mine. I feel I would be amiss if I said nothing when I know (or even think) that something may be helpful for someone. With as much respect as possible, I would like to say that if you don't want to hear what I have to say or offer, I would like you to please just Delete all future emails with my name on them. I am trying to say this as nicely as it possible to do in an email. ) Have a great day! Regards, Helen Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote: This looks like spam to me. I have used serrapeptase and find it highly effective for a number of inflammatory issues. I use Doctors choice and I have use the products fromwww.serrapeptase.info. Doctor's choice, either from Iherb or vitacost works just fine and so much cheaper. The first product I used was not enteric coated either, but I don't remember where I got it from now and it worked just great so that whole deal about having to be enteric coated I think is BS.ArrowIn , helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> wrote:>> > > Hello Olive and Ballady and others who have to deal with pain.....> > Have you ever tried Ulta-peptase? I don't know if this will help pain from Lyme (and Shingles)or not, but since it is an all natural enzyme and will not hurt you even in very large doses, you might want to give it a try.> > Some people have been able to cancel their back surgery after taking this for pain.> > As I understand it, all pain and disease is accompanied by inflammation and in many cases, when the inflammation is gone so is the pain. Ulta-peptase "eats" the inflammation as it were. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Ulta-peptase "ate" the Lyme disease?> > The company that sells it, says this......> > "Ulta-Peptase is a remarkable natural product that has had wide clinical use in Asia and Europe over the last 25 years. Ulta-Peptase has the unique ability to digest inflammation in all its forms, thus eliminating the pain that comes from many health challenges. By alleviating the inflammation, mucus and dead scar tissue it enables the body's own healing system to replace it with healthy tissue, as a result the body heals it self. Ulta–Peptase also digests non-living tissue, cysts, blood clots and plaque in the arteries. Ulta-Peptase is set to become one of the most widely used natural health solutions because of its ability to replace the majority of anti-inflammatory drugs. Ulta-Peptase has absolutely no side effects." > > I have been plagued with pain in my back and hip since I, as a pedestrian, was hit by a car in an intersection. Thank God, he stopped before he drove over me. I had no broken bones but I still have pain especially when I overdo it. The other day, I had a lot of errands to do so I took 6 capsules before I left home and I was amazed how long I was able to run around without pain. These pills are rather expensive and so I don't take them all the time. As soon as funds become available, I plan to take them daily to see if I can get rid of what is causing the pain for once and for all.> > The Ulta-Peptase is $59.95 for 180 capsules. > > The name of the company is Ultimate Life Products. > You can call them at 1-800-228-5527 8:30am to 5 pm Pacific time.> > They do have a website of sorts but it is not very good. They are in the process of building a new website but for now it will be best if you call them. Ask for Dennis, if you have questions about the Ulta-peptase and other questions.> > You will find the people at the other end of the line to be very nice and helpful. I have not heard of anyone who has eradicated Lyme disease with Ulta-peptase but maybe someone in the company has heard something so ask them when you call.> > I am a representative for this company. Utimate Life Products will ask how you heard about them so please give them my name. > > Let me know if you order it and I will refund you $20 of the cost of your first bottle. This is a deal between anyone and me and cannot be done through the company. Simply send me a private email to my private email address after you have ordered it. I will call or email you to arrange to send you the $20. Please remember, this refund will be only for the first bottle of Ulta-peptase that you purchase. > > If it were me, I would consider it helpful to take the Holy Tea with the Ulta-peptase because it helps to clean the body out faster than if you did not use it but I realize everyone cannot afford to buy both of these products. If you do, you will have to order them from different companies. > > To learn more about the Holy Tea and to order it, if you wish, go to the website > > www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee I cannot give a rebate on the Holy Tea because I only make 1% on a $40 purchase unless you want the 40¢ ) In the long run, I will be making more but for now that is all I get. )> > I hope this information is helpful.> > Helen Elias> 604-420-1544> zhebee@... > > > > > ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote:> Hi Olive,> > So sorry to hear of this development. I do not have any advice, but as> a fellow lymie my story is somewhat similar.> > During my initial stages of Lyme (I count that as about 20 years) most> of my musculosketal problems were in my neck and upper thoracic> region. For the last 10 years this has shifted to my low back and left> hip. I am just now coming out of another episodic attack (they occur> more and more frequently). I couldn't sit or stand for 2 weeks and now> have to use a back brace and cane while those regions continue to heal.> > Lyme affects and inflames all tissue but I think especially connective> tissue. Whether this problem (and what you describe) are related to> this, or some other anomaly, I do not know. It is frustrating though> because it is difficult to know how to treat - continue working> systemically on Lyme as the causative factor or go down another road> .... or both. I'm having an MRI done next week. I was so incapacitated> I finally decided to try the allopathic route. The orthro doc thinks a> disc may need surgery. Did Lyme cause this problem? > > As I said, no answers, just commiserating and hoping you get some> relief soon and/or possible suggestions from others here.> > Ballady> > > >> > Hi All,> > > > I don't post often but I am writing to provide an update on MMS and> > also get some advice.> > > > I have had Lyme disease since 1999 but started having debilitating> > neck symptoms since 2003. In 2004 I realized that what I had was Lyme> > so have been treating since then.> > > > I did salt/c for about 18 months but am no longer doing it, having> > about 20-30% improvement. I started UT in July of 2007 and then added> > MMS to my regimen in late December of 2007. I have modified my MMS> > regimen a few times but over the last 2 weeks or so have been doing it> > at night only. I am up to 8 drops. I have had continual improvement in> > symptoms until 2 days ago. > > > > My right arm, the upper arm and shoulder area, has become very weak> > and painful and my range of motion is limited. My back is very sore> > also and I am afraid to bend because it feels like I will put in out.> > This is very unusual for me. For the past 5 years my symptoms have> > pretty well been confined to my neck and jaw and now it seems that it> > has spread. > > > > Has anyone gone through something similar with MMS?> > > > Thanks,> > Olive_,_._,___ Acid Reflux? Constipation? Belly Fat? Edema? More Energy..Look younger..ImproveLungs/Brain Make $$$$s! www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee Helen, Ind Rep for HTC 604-420-1544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Actually, based upon our economic system, unless one is an importer/exporter, there are no products that are not rooted in a MLM system. You cannot buy diapers, cake mix, cough medicine, or toilet paper directly from a mfg unless you are a retailer. You may shop stores for the cheapest prices comparision, but none the less, it is ALL based upon MLM wherein wherein the middle man is the usual source. In some cases, lacking advertising budgets, and associated expenses, MLM is the only way to get unique product distribution. Sometimes, there could be a savings....kinda like coupons as helen suggests. --- helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> wrote: > > From: helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [ ] Attn: > Arrow > > > > Hello Arrow > > Are you telling me that if someone (me, for > example) was selling a > product through an MLM company that possibly could > help your sister > to become cancer-free, for example, that you would > not want to hear > about it? When you limit which products it is ok to > talk about and > which are not, you are limiting your options. As > one person in this > group said, " I am looking for something that works > and I don't care if > it is from MLM or not. " Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 And btw, think you may need a prescription? Available only via our MLMS. From whence a virus, etc are born and distributed - first see your friendly GP doctor, who will then send you to the specialist, who after he is done with you, will send you to the pharmacist. Are they not MLMs for drug companies and each other? There is not an economic or social construct that is not a MLM....be it religion, fashion or the justice system. --- Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote: > > Actually, based upon our economic system, unless one > is an importer/exporter, there are no products that > are not rooted in a MLM system. You cannot buy > diapers, cake mix, cough medicine, or toilet paper > directly from a mfg unless you are a retailer. You > may > shop stores for the cheapest prices comparision, but > none the less, it is ALL based upon MLM wherein > wherein the middle man is the usual source. In some > cases, lacking advertising budgets, and associated > expenses, MLM is the only way to get unique product > distribution. Sometimes, there could be a > savings....kinda like coupons as helen suggests. > > --- helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> wrote: > > > > > From: helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> > > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) > > Subject: Re: [ ] Attn: > > Arrow > > > > > > > > Hello Arrow > > > > Are you telling me that if someone (me, for > > example) was selling a > > product through an MLM company that possibly > could > > help your sister > > to become cancer-free, for example, that you > would > > not want to hear > > about it? When you limit which products it is ok > to > > talk about and > > which are not, you are limiting your options. > As > > one person in this > > group said, " I am looking for something that > works > > and I don't care if > > it is from MLM or not. " > > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is > different is how you think.. > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Carol Ann is absolutely right. Practically all distribution business in this country is done on an MLM model. If you don't believe it, try being a small business owner who sees a new product and then finds out that he/she can't get it locally because the local sales outlets are bound by hidden agreements. Then try going around those agreements to get what you want. Sometimes even the manufacturers themselves won't help you because of their agreements. I'm involved in upscale work but I'm at the literal end of the supply chain and have had to pull all kinds of stunts and told all kinds of lies to get superior products and get around these marketing agreements. This anti-MLM bashing is impeding progress here and I even fully confess to being highly anti-MLM myself. I have a long sad story of involvement in the Grandaddy of MLM's and do I even need to name that name? No, because it will just stir up controversy. How about let's quit whipping this horse. If anyone wants to use a MLM product, it's their business and none of mine. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Arrow, you're right in that it is about the particular, individual product. Take for instance, Magnascent. Is it not a MLM product? It cannot typically be found in GNC, Vitamine Shoppe or Whole Foods outlets. Yet, prices are somewhat competitive...on line....and most importantly, from the many testimonials given, it works. It is a one of a kind product, and as such, people are willing to pay the going rates. You want Heinze catchup, you pay Heinze prices. For, Serrapeptase, since it is not a proprietary product, one has a few more shopping choices. And yes, I think its a great product as well. My sister, recently had some blood work done. The results were that her white bc was above normal ranges, although supposedly, no infections were found. The only thing she could account for was that she has been taking the Serrapeptase. BTW, she thought she was taking it for spider veins, (which actually did disappear) and misunderstood its real purpose. What grieves me are the guys like Mercola who tout their products for higher prices, when in fact, comparative, equally effective products can be had for more reasonable prices. I buy Samanto and Banderol. Guess, what, it can't be had from anyone other than Nutra Medix, however, it can be had from multiple vendors as distributors- their brand only. Regardless of what one buys, the choices are completely discretionary. Some folks have more disposable income than others. It appears to me that this is what Mercola counts on.....name recognition, popularity and in your face marketing. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything from the man on principle alone. So how many are willing to give up or discredit magnascent because its MLM. --- Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote: > Hello Helen and All, > > Be it as it may. I have gave no opinion really on > MLM's. I was just countering your post to > let people know that I think Serrapeptase is a REAL > DEAL PRODUCT, is effective and that > is can be had at a much better price. > > So as guidelines and rules of this forum permit you > will post what you want and I will post > what I want. I get my serrapeptase at: > http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx? > c=1 & pid=4467 > > That's at least than half the price you offer > through your company. So if people want to > purchase from an MLM that is their choice. I don't > care but I do think that people have the > right to know where to get reasonably priced > products. > > But now since your criticism of me, here is my > opinion. People really need a lot of help. > Most folks could use 4 to 8 different supplements a > month. Along with Dr. Mercola, MLMs > charge more than necessary in my opinion. If you > have $120 to $300 extra bucks to > spend on supplements be my guest to tour the MLM > products and or to purchase from > Mercola. So its not just MLM's that are an issue to > me I will counter Mercola also and have > done so in the past. Show me an MLM that charges > competitive prices and I will support > them. I don't give a hoot how the product is > marketed. > > For a full review of Serrapeptase visit: > www.HealthSalon.org > http://www.healthsalon.org/392/testimonials-on-arthritis-and-serrapeptase/ > > This is a non profit blog. In fact it makes NO MONEY > AT ALL and does not exchange in any > form of commerce. > > I do rescind my commend on your post being spam, if > it is permitted by forum guidelines. > > Regards, > Arrow > > > > In , > helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Arrow > > > > Are you telling me that if someone (me, for > example) was selling a > > product through an MLM company that possibly > could help your sister > > to become cancer-free, for example, that you > would not want to hear > > about it? When you limit which products it is ok > to talk about and > > which are not, you are limiting your options. > As one person in this > > group said, " I am looking for something that > works and I don't care if > > it is from MLM or not. " > > > > The moderator of this group has said that we can > talk about products, > > even those from MLM Cos, as long as it is not spam > which I took to > > mean some form of in-your-face advertising to the > group. I am talking > > about the products I represent in the same manner > as you would talk > > about some other products you found on some other > website. > > > > There is no obligation to buy them or even to > check out my particular > > products, if you would rather not. > > > > I talk about the products I represent more than > others perhaps because > > I make it my business to know every possible > thing about them that I > > can whereas if I refer someone to someone else's > website I do not > > know as much about those products naturally, but > I make a point of > > saying what I know and do not know, and if I > have used them or not. > > > > I also think, in fairness to you all, it is > important to mention that I be > > open about the fact that I am a representative > for a company or not > > so you can judge if I might be biased toward my > products, and frankly > > I am, since I took considerable trouble to look > for companies that are > > reputable and have some of the best products and > to learn as much > > as possible about them. If people know and > they don't like it that I > > am a rep, they can choose not to order them. > > > > Some people talk about other products being > cheaper and in some > > cases that is true when you are talking about an > initial purchase. > > There are some people in this group who would be > hard-pressed to > > come up with even $10 for a product. The beauty > of MLM is that > > you can, if you wish, get your products free (or > paid for) by referring > > a few others. I order about $200 worth of > supplements a month and > > it costs me nothing. This is available to anyone > who wants it except > > it might be difficult to earn anything with the > URI company. I respect > > every one's choices. It is for them to make and > not mine. I feel I > > would be amiss if I said nothing when I know (or > even think) that > > something may be helpful for someone. > > > > With as much respect as possible, I would like > to say that if you don't > > want to hear what I have to say or offer, I would > like you to please > > just Delete all future emails with my name on > them. I am trying to say > > this as nicely as it possible to do in an email. > ) > > > > Have a great day! > > > > Regards, > > Helen > > > > > > > > > > Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote: > > > > This looks like spam to me. I have used > serrapeptase and find it highly effective for a > > number of inflammatory issues. I use Doctors > choice and I have use the products from > > www.serrapeptase.info. Doctor's choice, either > from Iherb or vitacost works just fine and > > so much cheaper. The first product I used was not > enteric coated either, but I don't > > remember where I got it from now and it worked > just great so that whole deal about > > having to be enteric coated I think is BS. > > > > Arrow > > > > In , > helen/zhebee <zhebee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Olive and Ballady and others who have to > deal with pain..... > > > > > > Have you ever tried Ulta-peptase? I don't know > if this will help pain from Lyme (and > > Shingles)or not, but since it is an all natural > enzyme and will not hurt you even in very > > large doses, you might want to give it a try. > > > > > > Some people have been able to cancel their back > surgery after taking this for pain. > > > > > > As I understand it, all pain and disease is > accompanied by inflammation and in many > > cases, when the inflammation is gone so is the > pain. Ulta-peptase " eats " the > inflammation > > as it were. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the > Ulta-peptase " ate " the Lyme disease? > > > > > > The company that sells it, says this...... > > > > > > " Ulta-Peptase is a remarkable natural product > that has had wide clinical use in Asia > and > > Europe over the last 25 years. Ulta-Peptase has > the unique ability to digest > inflammation > > in all its forms, thus eliminating the pain that > comes === message truncated === Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Magnascent is iodine. Maybe you can't get Magnascent anywhere else, but you can get iodine. >From the Magnascent website: Diets that may cause Iodine Deficiency 1. Diets without ocean fish or sea vegetables 2. Inadequate use off [sic] iodized salt including low-sodium diets 3. Diets high in the consumption of bakery products (e.g., breads, pasta) 4. Vegan and vegetarian diets ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Conclusion: Eat ocean fish, seaweed, and easy on the donuts, sandwiches and pastas! Alaria has 775 % of your daily requirement in 1/4 oz of dried Alaria, 7 grams. Dulse has 173% of your daily requirement in 1 Tbl, 5 grams. Kelp has 2114% of your daily requirement in 1/3 cup or 7 grams. Plus they all have Calcium, Iron, B vitamins, B-12, potassium, Magnesium and phosphorous. If you're cooking up dry beans, add kelp for a rich thick broth. Sprinkle Dulse on your salads and soups, I add it to my homemade salad dressing. Cook Alaria until tender in broth and enjoy like spinach. You'll be getting your trace minerals and you'll feel better! It won't cost you $75 for 4 oz, Main Coast certified organic Sea Vegetables are about 50 cents per serving. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 i got real turned off to ever trying magnascent when i read the really poor article on their website about MMS. i emailed my criticism to them, including my decision to just stick to Lugols iodine. > RE: [ ] Attn: Arrow > > > Magnascent is iodine. Maybe you can't get > Magnascent anywhere else, but you can get > iodine. > > >From the Magnascent website: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 OH, was that the one by Dr. Sircus? I think I read that, yes, here it is. http://www.magnascentiodine.com/comparison2.htm I wrote them and let them know what a crock of lies that article is. Anyone familiar with MMS can see them. She said, that they just reprinted the article because they respect Sircus. I laughed. Blind trust is not a good thing. I know, I grew up in a religion where I was taught to have blind faith. More people get shafted by these people than any other. More scams here than anywhere else. And what do people say? I thought I could trust them, they are (religion). Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I am 100% with you Helen Cheers, Doug Re: [ ] Attn: Arrow > > > Hello Arrow > > Are you telling me that if someone (me, for example) was selling a > product through an MLM company that possibly could help your sister > to become cancer-free, for example, that you would not want to hear > about it? When you limit which products it is ok to talk about and > which are not, you are limiting your options. As one person in this > group said, " I am looking for something that works and I don't care if > it is from MLM or not. " > > The moderator of this group has said that we can talk about products, > even those from MLM Cos, as long as it is not spam which I took to > mean some form of in-your-face advertising to the group. I am talking > about the products I represent in the same manner as you would talk > about some other products you found on some other website. > > There is no obligation to buy them or even to check out my particular > products, if you would rather not. > > I talk about the products I represent more than others perhaps because > I make it my business to know every possible thing about them that I > can whereas if I refer someone to someone else's website I do not > know as much about those products naturally, but I make a point of > saying what I know and do not know, and if I have used them or not. > > I also think, in fairness to you all, it is important to mention that I > be > open about the fact that I am a representative for a company or not > so you can judge if I might be biased toward my products, and frankly > I am, since I took considerable trouble to look for companies that are > reputable and have some of the best products and to learn as much > as possible about them. If people know and they don't like it that I > am a rep, they can choose not to order them. > > Some people talk about other products being cheaper and in some > cases that is true when you are talking about an initial purchase. > There are some people in this group who would be hard-pressed to > come up with even $10 for a product. The beauty of MLM is that > you can, if you wish, get your products free (or paid for) by referring > a few others. I order about $200 worth of supplements a month and > it costs me nothing. This is available to anyone who wants it except > it might be difficult to earn anything with the URI company. I respect > every one's choices. It is for them to make and not mine. I feel I > would be amiss if I said nothing when I know (or even think) that > something may be helpful for someone. > > With as much respect as possible, I would like to say that if you don't > want to hear what I have to say or offer, I would like you to please > just Delete all future emails with my name on them. I am trying to say > this as nicely as it possible to do in an email. ) > > Have a great day! > > Regards, > Helen > > > > > Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote: > > This looks like spam to me. I have used serrapeptase and find it highly > effective for a > number of inflammatory issues. I use Doctors choice and I have use the > products from > www.serrapeptase.info. Doctor's choice, either from Iherb or vitacost > works just fine and > so much cheaper. The first product I used was not enteric coated either, > but I don't > remember where I got it from now and it worked just great so that whole > deal about > having to be enteric coated I think is BS. > > Arrow > > In , helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello Olive and Ballady and others who have to deal with pain..... >> >> Have you ever tried Ulta-peptase? I don't know if this will help pain >> from Lyme (and > Shingles)or not, but since it is an all natural enzyme and will not hurt > you even in very > large doses, you might want to give it a try. >> >> Some people have been able to cancel their back surgery after taking this >> for pain. >> >> As I understand it, all pain and disease is accompanied by inflammation >> and in many > cases, when the inflammation is gone so is the pain. Ulta-peptase " eats " > the inflammation > as it were. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Ulta-peptase " ate " the Lyme > disease? >> >> The company that sells it, says this...... >> >> " Ulta-Peptase is a remarkable natural product that has had wide clinical >> use in Asia and > Europe over the last 25 years. Ulta-Peptase has the unique ability to > digest inflammation > in all its forms, thus eliminating the pain that comes from many health > challenges. By > alleviating the inflammation, mucus and dead scar tissue it enables the > body's own > healing system to replace it with healthy tissue, as a result the body > heals it self. Ulta- > Peptase also digests non-living tissue, cysts, blood clots and plaque in > the arteries. Ulta- > Peptase is set to become one of the most widely used natural health > solutions because of > its ability to replace the majority of anti-inflammatory drugs. > Ulta-Peptase has absolutely > no side effects. " >> >> I have been plagued with pain in my back and hip since I, as a >> pedestrian, was hit by a > car in an intersection. Thank God, he stopped before he drove over me. I > had no broken > bones but I still have pain especially when I overdo it. The other day, I > had a lot of errands > to do so I took 6 capsules before I left home and I was amazed how long I > was able to run > around without pain. These pills are rather expensive and so I don't take > them all the > time. As soon as funds become available, I plan to take them daily to see > if I can get rid of > what is causing the pain for once and for all. >> >> The Ulta-Peptase is $59.95 for 180 capsules. >> >> The name of the company is Ultimate Life Products. >> You can call them at 1-800-228-5527 8:30am to 5 pm Pacific time. >> >> They do have a website of sorts but it is not very good. They are in the >> process of > building a new website but for now it will be best if you call them. Ask > for Dennis, if you > have questions about the Ulta-peptase and other questions. >> >> You will find the people at the other end of the line to be very nice and >> helpful. I have > not heard of anyone who has eradicated Lyme disease with Ulta-peptase but > maybe > someone in the company has heard something so ask them when you call. >> >> I am a representative for this company. Utimate Life Products will ask >> how you heard > about them so please give them my name. >> >> Let me know if you order it and I will refund you $20 of the cost of your >> first bottle. > This is a deal between anyone and me and cannot be done through the > company. Simply > send me a private email to my private email address after you have ordered > it. I will call or > email you to arrange to send you the $20. Please remember, this refund > will be only for > the first bottle of Ulta-peptase that you purchase. >> >> If it were me, I would consider it helpful to take the Holy Tea with the >> Ulta-peptase > because it helps to clean the body out faster than if you did not use it > but I realize > everyone cannot afford to buy both of these products. If you do, you will > have to order > them from different companies. >> >> To learn more about the Holy Tea and to order it, if you wish, go to the >> website > > > www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee I cannot give a rebate on the Holy Tea because > I only make > 1% on a $40 purchase unless you want the 40¢ ) In the long run, I will > be making more > but for now that is all I get. ) >> >> I hope this information is helpful. >> >> Helen Elias >> 604-420-1544 >> zhebee@... >> >> >> >> >> ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: >> Hi Olive, >> >> So sorry to hear of this development. I do not have any advice, but as >> a fellow lymie my story is somewhat similar. >> >> During my initial stages of Lyme (I count that as about 20 years) most >> of my musculosketal problems were in my neck and upper thoracic >> region. For the last 10 years this has shifted to my low back and left >> hip. I am just now coming out of another episodic attack (they occur >> more and more frequently). I couldn't sit or stand for 2 weeks and now >> have to use a back brace and cane while those regions continue to heal. >> >> Lyme affects and inflames all tissue but I think especially connective >> tissue. Whether this problem (and what you describe) are related to >> this, or some other anomaly, I do not know. It is frustrating though >> because it is difficult to know how to treat - continue working >> systemically on Lyme as the causative factor or go down another road >> .... or both. I'm having an MRI done next week. I was so incapacitated >> I finally decided to try the allopathic route. The orthro doc thinks a >> disc may need surgery. Did Lyme cause this problem? >> >> As I said, no answers, just commiserating and hoping you get some >> relief soon and/or possible suggestions from others here. >> >> Ballady >> >> >> > >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I don't post often but I am writing to provide an update on MMS and >> > also get some advice. >> > >> > I have had Lyme disease since 1999 but started having debilitating >> > neck symptoms since 2003. In 2004 I realized that what I had was Lyme >> > so have been treating since then. >> > >> > I did salt/c for about 18 months but am no longer doing it, having >> > about 20-30% improvement. I started UT in July of 2007 and then added >> > MMS to my regimen in late December of 2007. I have modified my MMS >> > regimen a few times but over the last 2 weeks or so have been doing it >> > at night only. I am up to 8 drops. I have had continual improvement in >> > symptoms until 2 days ago. >> > >> > My right arm, the upper arm and shoulder area, has become very weak >> > and painful and my range of motion is limited. My back is very sore >> > also and I am afraid to bend because it feels like I will put in out. >> > This is very unusual for me. For the past 5 years my symptoms have >> > pretty well been confined to my neck and jaw and now it seems that it >> > has spread. >> > >> > Has anyone gone through something similar with MMS? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Olive > _,_._,___ > > > > Acid Reflux? Constipation? Belly Fat? Edema? > More Energy..Look younger..ImproveLungs/Brain > Make $$$$s! www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee > Helen, Ind Rep for HTC 604-420-1544 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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