Re: Attn: Arrow, it is time to stop this discussion here

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Hello Arrow I will not pursuing this no matter what is said. The Moderator has asked us, nicely I might add, to stop discussing the pros and cons of MLM and I consider that I, and others, have been hit with the wet noodle, so I will be behaving myself. I am open to any arguments or discussion made to my private email address, however. We also need to show consideration for those who are not well & who do not want to plow through all this stuff to get to the information they need. My apologies to all of you in that category. Thank you for your comments, Arrow. Helen Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote: Hello Helen and All,Be it as it may. I have gave no opinion really on MLM's. I was just countering your post to let people know that I think Serrapeptase is a REAL DEAL PRODUCT, is effective and

that is can be had at a much better price.So as guidelines and rules of this forum permit you will post what you want and I will post what I want. I get my serrapeptase at: http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=4467 That's at least than half the price you offer through your company. So if people want to purchase from an MLM that is their choice. I don't care but I do think that people have the right to know where to get reasonably priced products.But now since your criticism of me, here is my opinion. People really need a lot of help. Most folks could use 4 to 8 different supplements a month. Along with Dr. Mercola, MLMs charge more than necessary in my opinion. If you have $120 to $300 extra bucks to spend on supplements be my guest to tour the MLM products and or to purchase from Mercola. So its not just MLM's that are an issue to

me I will counter Mercola also and have done so in the past. Show me an MLM that charges competitive prices and I will support them. I don't give a hoot how the product is marketed. For a full review of Serrapeptase visit: www.HealthSalon.orghttp://www.healthsalon.org/392/testimonials-on-arthritis-and-serrapeptase/This is a non profit blog. In fact it makes NO MONEY AT ALL and does not exchange in any form of commerce. I do rescind my commend on your post being spam, if it is permitted by forum guidelines.Regards,ArrowIn , helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> wrote:> > > Hello Arrow> > Are you telling me that if someone (me, for example) was

selling a> product through an MLM company that possibly could help your sister> to become cancer-free, for example, that you would not want to hear > about it? When you limit which products it is ok to talk about and > which are not, you are limiting your options. As one person in this > group said, "I am looking for something that works and I don't care if > it is from MLM or not." > > The moderator of this group has said that we can talk about products, > even those from MLM Cos, as long as it is not spam which I took to > mean some form of in-your-face advertising to the group. I am talking > about the products I represent in the same manner as you would talk > about some other products you found on some other website. > > There is no obligation to buy them or even to check out my particular > products, if you would rather not.> > I talk about the

products I represent more than others perhaps because> I make it my business to know every possible thing about them that I> can whereas if I refer someone to someone else's website I do not > know as much about those products naturally, but I make a point of> saying what I know and do not know, and if I have used them or not. > > I also think, in fairness to you all, it is important to mention that I be> open about the fact that I am a representative for a company or not > so you can judge if I might be biased toward my products, and frankly> I am, since I took considerable trouble to look for companies that are > reputable and have some of the best products and to learn as much> as possible about them. If people know and they don't like it that I> am a rep, they can choose not to order them.> > Some people talk about other products being cheaper and in some > cases

that is true when you are talking about an initial purchase. > There are some people in this group who would be hard-pressed to> come up with even $10 for a product. The beauty of MLM is that> you can, if you wish, get your products free (or paid for) by referring> a few others. I order about $200 worth of supplements a month and> it costs me nothing. This is available to anyone who wants it except> it might be difficult to earn anything with the URI company. I respect > every one's choices. It is for them to make and not mine. I feel I > would be amiss if I said nothing when I know (or even think) that > something may be helpful for someone. > > With as much respect as possible, I would like to say that if you don't> want to hear what I have to say or offer, I would like you to please > just Delete all future emails with my name on them. I am trying to say> this as nicely as

it possible to do in an email. )> > Have a great day!> > Regards,> Helen> > > > > Arrow <arrowwind09@...> wrote:> > This looks like spam to me. I have used serrapeptase and find it highly effective for a > number of inflammatory issues. I use Doctors choice and I have use the products from> www.serrapeptase.info. Doctor's choice, either from Iherb or vitacost works just fine and > so much cheaper. The first product I used was not enteric coated either, but I don't > remember where I got it from now and it worked just great so that whole deal about > having to be enteric coated I think is BS.> > Arrow> > In , helen/zhebee <zhebee@> wrote:> >> > > >

> > Hello Olive and Ballady and others who have to deal with pain.....> > > > Have you ever tried Ulta-peptase? I don't know if this will help pain from Lyme (and > Shingles)or not, but since it is an all natural enzyme and will not hurt you even in very > large doses, you might want to give it a try.> > > > Some people have been able to cancel their back surgery after taking this for pain.> > > > As I understand it, all pain and disease is accompanied by inflammation and in many > cases, when the inflammation is gone so is the pain. Ulta-peptase "eats" the inflammation > as it were. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Ulta-peptase "ate" the Lyme disease?> > > > The company that sells it, says this......> > > > "Ulta-Peptase is a remarkable natural product that has had wide clinical use in Asia and > Europe over the last 25

years. Ulta-Peptase has the unique ability to digest inflammation > in all its forms, thus eliminating the pain that comes from many health challenges. By > alleviating the inflammation, mucus and dead scar tissue it enables the body's own > healing system to replace it with healthy tissue, as a result the body heals it self. Ulta–> Peptase also digests non-living tissue, cysts, blood clots and plaque in the arteries. Ulta-> Peptase is set to become one of the most widely used natural health solutions because of > its ability to replace the majority of anti-inflammatory drugs. Ulta-Peptase has absolutely > no side effects." > > > > I have been plagued with pain in my back and hip since I, as a pedestrian, was hit by a > car in an intersection. Thank God, he stopped before he drove over me. I had no broken > bones but I still have pain especially when I overdo it. The

other day, I had a lot of errands > to do so I took 6 capsules before I left home and I was amazed how long I was able to run > around without pain. These pills are rather expensive and so I don't take them all the > time. As soon as funds become available, I plan to take them daily to see if I can get rid of > what is causing the pain for once and for all.> > > > The Ulta-Peptase is $59.95 for 180 capsules. > > > > The name of the company is Ultimate Life Products. > > You can call them at 1-800-228-5527 8:30am to 5 pm Pacific time.> > > > They do have a website of sorts but it is not very good. They are in the process of > building a new website but for now it will be best if you call them. Ask for Dennis, if you > have questions about the Ulta-peptase and other questions.> > > > You will find the people at the other end of the

line to be very nice and helpful. I have > not heard of anyone who has eradicated Lyme disease with Ulta-peptase but maybe > someone in the company has heard something so ask them when you call.> > > > I am a representative for this company. Utimate Life Products will ask how you heard > about them so please give them my name. > > > > Let me know if you order it and I will refund you $20 of the cost of your first bottle. > This is a deal between anyone and me and cannot be done through the company. Simply > send me a private email to my private email address after you have ordered it. I will call or > email you to arrange to send you the $20. Please remember, this refund will be only for > the first bottle of Ulta-peptase that you purchase. > > > > If it were me, I would consider it helpful to take the Holy Tea with the Ulta-peptase > because it helps to

clean the body out faster than if you did not use it but I realize > everyone cannot afford to buy both of these products. If you do, you will have to order > them from different companies. > > > > To learn more about the Holy Tea and to order it, if you wish, go to the website > > > www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee I cannot give a rebate on the Holy Tea because I only make > 1% on a $40 purchase unless you want the 40¢ ) In the long run, I will be making more > but for now that is all I get. )> > > > I hope this information is helpful.> > > > Helen Elias> > 604-420-1544> > zhebee@ > > > > > > > > > > ballady4 <ballady4@> wrote:> > Hi Olive,> > > > So sorry to hear of this development. I do not have any advice, but as> > a fellow lymie my story is

somewhat similar.> > > > During my initial stages of Lyme (I count that as about 20 years) most> > of my musculosketal problems were in my neck and upper thoracic> > region. For the last 10 years this has shifted to my low back and left> > hip. I am just now coming out of another episodic attack (they occur> > more and more frequently). I couldn't sit or stand for 2 weeks and now> > have to use a back brace and cane while those regions continue to heal.> > > > Lyme affects and inflames all tissue but I think especially connective> > tissue. Whether this problem (and what you describe) are related to> > this, or some other anomaly, I do not know. It is frustrating though> > because it is difficult to know how to treat - continue working> > systemically on Lyme as the causative factor or go down another road> > .... or both. I'm having

an MRI done next week. I was so incapacitated> > I finally decided to try the allopathic route. The orthro doc thinks a> > disc may need surgery. Did Lyme cause this problem? > > > > As I said, no answers, just commiserating and hoping you get some> > relief soon and/or possible suggestions from others here.> > > > Ballady> > > > > > >> > > Hi All,> > > > > > I don't post often but I am writing to provide an update on MMS and> > > also get some advice.> > > > > > I have had Lyme disease since 1999 but started having debilitating> > > neck symptoms since 2003. In 2004 I realized that what I had was

Lyme> > > so have been treating since then.> > > > > > I did salt/c for about 18 months but am no longer doing it, having> > > about 20-30% improvement. I started UT in July of 2007 and then added> > > MMS to my regimen in late December of 2007. I have modified my MMS> > > regimen a few times but over the last 2 weeks or so have been doing it> > > at night only. I am up to 8 drops. I have had continual improvement in> > > symptoms until 2 days ago. > > > > > > My right arm, the upper arm and shoulder area, has become very weak> > > and painful and my range of motion is limited. My back is very sore> > > also and I am afraid to bend because it feels like I will put in out.> > > This is very unusual for me. For the past 5 years my symptoms have> > > pretty well been confined to my neck and jaw

and now it seems that it> > > has spread. > > > > > > Has anyone gone through something similar with MMS?> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Olive> _,_._,___ > > > > Acid Reflux? Constipation? Belly Fat? Edema? > More Energy..Look younger..ImproveLungs/Brain > Make $$$$s! www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee > Helen, Ind Rep for HTC 604-420-1544> Acid Reflux? Constipation? Belly Fat?

Edema? More Energy..Look younger..ImproveLungs/Brain Make $$$$s! www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee Helen, Ind Rep for HTC 604-420-1544