Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I sure can't tell you what to do but...consider that you may be having reactions to the activator you are using. After months of citric acid as an activator, I found out it was making me sick faster than MMS could make me better. I'm giving it a rest for a while. Also- your burning sensation may be a warning. This is ROUGH STUFF and you may have a condition in there that is adversely affected by this protocol. Maybe you need to heal that first. I disagree, based on my own experience and observation, that MMS ia a toxin to us in the doses we are taking it. Nevertheless, it is a toxin as it does kill germs, and you may have a toxic reaction to it for many reasons. I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure that it did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain because of existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some future date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know when to stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1319 - Release Date: 3/8/2008 10:14 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I couldn't agree more with this. Many of us have said it now - MMS is very strong - exercise caution, listen to your body. Ballady > > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know when to > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > Daddybob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 > I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently > experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I > thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure that it > did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something > else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain because of > existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some future > date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know when to > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > Daddybob Ok, DB, I'd REALLY like to hear the rest of this story. It was angina-like pain that stopped me in my tracks when I first started using MMS last fall. I've never felt anything like it before, or since. I " ve been watching everyone else's MMS experience, hoping to find a 'match' for this symptom, AND a solution so I can get back to using it without being scared to death of it! I have no known heart problems, but I sure thought I was starting with them when I had that reaction. Have you found an anti-inflammatory? Starshar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hi DB I suspect that the chlorine may interact not just with slightly acidic pathogens but also with inflamed tissues. We may need to recognize when we have inflamed tissues and to treat these separately by drinking enough water to properly hydrate such tissues when we are giving ourselves MMS treatments. The role of water is to remove hydrogen ions from cells, and if we allow those ions to accumulate (by not drinking enough water) our cells can become inflamed and sore. Phil Re: [ ] Re:Questioning MMS > I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently > experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I > thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure that > it > did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something > else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain because > of > existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some future > date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know when > to > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > Daddybob Ok, DB, I'd REALLY like to hear the rest of this story. It was angina-like pain that stopped me in my tracks when I first started using MMS last fall. I've never felt anything like it before, or since. I " ve been watching everyone else's MMS experience, hoping to find a 'match' for this symptom, AND a solution so I can get back to using it without being scared to death of it! I have no known heart problems, but I sure thought I was starting with them when I had that reaction. Have you found an anti-inflammatory? Starshar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 > > I sure can't tell you what to do but...consider that you may be having > reactions to the activator you are using. After months of citric acid as an > activator, I found out it was making me sick faster than MMS could make me > better. I'm giving it a rest for a while. > > Also- your burning sensation may be a warning. This is ROUGH STUFF and you > may have a condition in there that is adversely affected by this protocol. > Maybe you need to heal that first. I disagree, based on my own experience > and observation, that MMS ia a toxin to us in the doses we are taking it. > Nevertheless, it is a toxin as it does kill germs, and you may have a toxic > reaction to it for many reasons. > > I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently > experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I > thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure that it > did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something > else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain because of > existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some future > date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know when to > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > Daddybob Hey DB: Don't know much about angina, but (I believe) in the " Understanding MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble " dvd there is a reference to building up the veins and arteries near the heart using Vitamin (?) before removing plaque using chelation. I'm wondering if perhaps AMMS might be affecting cholesterol when it is needed until the veins and arteries are strong enough to not need the support. Hope someone picks up on this thought or corrects my view; I'm out of my depth. ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I was going to say this too but was looking for the reference. I believe it said that if you suspect a heart condition you should take a couple of weeks and load up on magnesium and other stuff before starting MMS. I wish I could find the exact place I read that, though. > > > > I sure can't tell you what to do but...consider that you may be having > > reactions to the activator you are using. After months of citric > acid as an > > activator, I found out it was making me sick faster than MMS could > make me > > better. I'm giving it a rest for a while. > > > > Also- your burning sensation may be a warning. This is ROUGH STUFF > and you > > may have a condition in there that is adversely affected by this > protocol. > > Maybe you need to heal that first. I disagree, based on my own > experience > > and observation, that MMS ia a toxin to us in the doses we are > taking it. > > Nevertheless, it is a toxin as it does kill germs, and you may have > a toxic > > reaction to it for many reasons. > > > > I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently > > experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I > > thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure > that it > > did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something > > else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain > because of > > existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some > future > > date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. > > > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know > when to > > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > > > Daddybob > > Hey DB: > > Don't know much about angina, but (I believe) in the " Understanding > MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble " dvd there is a reference to > building up the veins and arteries near the heart using Vitamin (?) > before removing plaque using chelation. I'm wondering if perhaps AMMS > might be affecting cholesterol when it is needed until the veins and > arteries are strong enough to not need the support. > Hope someone picks up on this thought or corrects my view; I'm out of > my depth. > ted > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 > > Hey DB: > > Don't know much about angina, but (I believe) in the " Understanding > MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble " dvd there is a reference to > building up the veins and arteries near the heart using Vitamin (?) > before removing plaque using chelation. I'm wondering if perhaps AMMS > might be affecting cholesterol when it is needed until the veins and > arteries are strong enough to not need the support. > Hope someone picks up on this thought or corrects my view; I'm out of > my depth. > ted > In chapter 21 of the book it dovers heart attacks and what causes them. He said cholesterol levels have nothing to do with heart attacks. He stated vitamins prevent heart attacks, not cholesterol lowering drugs. He stated that vitamin C is what prevents heart attacks. He said cholesterol is the body's response to a deficiency of vitamin C. I think if you have a problem there you might want to ramp up the vitamin C before detoxing with MMS. Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 > > > > I sure can't tell you what to do but...consider that you may be having > > reactions to the activator you are using. After months of citric > acid as an > > activator, I found out it was making me sick faster than MMS could > make me > > better. I'm giving it a rest for a while. > > > > Also- your burning sensation may be a warning. This is ROUGH STUFF > and you > > may have a condition in there that is adversely affected by this > protocol. > > Maybe you need to heal that first. I disagree, based on my own > experience > > and observation, that MMS ia a toxin to us in the doses we are > taking it. > > Nevertheless, it is a toxin as it does kill germs, and you may have > a toxic > > reaction to it for many reasons. > > > > I've been witholding this from most of the lists, but I have recently > > experienced severe angina, worst I've ever had in my life. At first I > > thought the MMS may be causing or adding to it. Now I'm pretty sure > that it > > did not cause it at all, that the angina was caused totally by something > > else, but when Chlorine Dioxide hit my arteries it triggered pain > because of > > existing inflammation. I'll have more to say about all that at some > future > > date. For right now I've been very successful at subduing the angina. > > > > My point is, I had to stop MMS, and maybe you need to too. > > > > I'm glad I found MMS, intend never to be without it now, but I know > when to > > stop going too far with a good thing. We all need to know that. > > > > Daddybob > > Hey DB: > > Don't know much about angina, but (I believe) in the " Understanding > MMS, Conversations with Jim Humble " dvd there is a reference to > building up the veins and arteries near the heart using Vitamin (?) > before removing plaque using chelation. I'm wondering if perhaps AMMS > might be affecting cholesterol when it is needed until the veins and > arteries are strong enough to not need the support. > Hope someone picks up on this thought or corrects my view; I'm out of > my depth. > ted > Thanks for the help Daddybob and ted, You make sense Bob! I'm a strong believer in following my instincts and common sense. Seeing as I've recently had my amalgams removed I don't want to be filling up my body with more rubbish for my poor old liver to deal with and this is what MMS will do. It's all very well killing stuff off if we have strong livers to eliminate it from our bodies. Maybe this is why people are getting too sick with MMS? I'm concentrating on chelation herbs and liver support for now but I have loads of MMS in the cupboard and will use it when my instincts tell me to! Peace Georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 At 06:23 PM 11/03/2008, you wrote: " I believe it said that if you suspect a heart condition you should take a couple of weeks and load up on magnesium and other stuff before starting MMS. I wish I could find the exact place I read that, though. " This is based on the work of Dr Rath. I read much of it back some years ago. " Dr. Rath’s research identifies the true cause of heart disease as a deficiency of vitamin C and other essential nutrients in the cells composing the heart and coronary arteries – not high cholesterol. Once the artery wall is weakened by vitamin deficiency, the body responds by producing excess cholesterol in the liver and depositing it in the injured artery. If this process continues without nutritional intervention, the buildup of fats in the arteries will eventually lead to atherosclerosis, the cause of heart attacks. " http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/sf/MoreResources.htm#DrRathHealthFoundation If MMS strips the cholesterol from the arteries before we've strengthened them, there could be a problem thus the stricture to take Vit C before starting MMS if you have heart issues. I advised my brother and sister to start with Vit C and to continue daily with it even though we have no idea if any of us have heart problems. Our parents did so this is just a precaution. Hope his info is helpful.........LD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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