Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 No, the pathogens are not in or on the mouthparts when the tick bites you. They are down in the gut. They don't move up to the mouth until some blood gets into the gut. I don't know how much that has to be. I assume the reason for this is that ticks molt and mature to the next stage after feeding. So it should be a relatively long time between hosts; they don't usually go from one bite to the next without this break. I read a pretty convincing article explaining all this on the tick list for dogs, but it was a couple of years ago. If I saved it, I'll post it. It may have been a post from the vet on that list; can't remember. As I recall, there is solid research that shows all this. You might find more information at that link I posted a few days ago, containing " Saluki. " Tons of info there. If you put on aromatic oils or anything else to kill the tick, or to make it detach, they really do tend to disgorge from their guts if you do this. Every single site on ticks and tick diseases that I've read that has any authority says just to grasp the tick as close to the skin as you can, and pull it off. They warn not to put anything on the tick, and they caution to avoid breaking the tick open. It makes sense to me. Judith > > > I have found that any number of aromatic substances will kill a tick. I get > them off my dog all the time that way now, they just drop off dead (I use a > drop of " Goof Off " on the dog). I'm not disputing the pull-off method, but > do we really know for sure that any method will not cause the dreaded > disgorgement into the host body? Right now, if I found a tick on me, the > first thing I would do is apply Tea Tree Oil or Oil of Oregano along with > DMSO in the hope that this would kill all pathogens in the tick and at the > bite site, regardless of disgorgement. Then I'd pull it off after maybe ten > minutes. I have done this to myself last year. It does take some fortitude > not to grab that tick and pull immediately. > > I wonder if this disgorgment thing hasn't reached the status of myth. I'm > not saying that it is a myth by any means, but it seems to me that all the > germs are already on the mouth of the tick when it bites you. > > Daddybob > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 > 10:34 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 having very few ticks in canada ; I was just wondering how hulda clark zapper would do on a tic bite spot. I know for a fact that if one leaves the zapper to long in one location a skin burn will happen so I can only assume the germs would be dead long before that MN [ ] Removing ticks > > I have found that any number of aromatic substances will kill a tick. I get > them off my dog all the time that way now, they just drop off dead (I use a > drop of " Goof Off " on the dog). I'm not disputing the pull-off method, but > do we really know for sure that any method will not cause the dreaded > disgorgement into the host body? Right now, if I found a tick on me, the > first thing I would do is apply Tea Tree Oil or Oil of Oregano along with > DMSO in the hope that this would kill all pathogens in the tick and at the > bite site, regardless of disgorgement. Then I'd pull it off after maybe ten > minutes. I have done this to myself last year. It does take some fortitude > not to grab that tick and pull immediately. > > I wonder if this disgorgment thing hasn't reached the status of myth. I'm > not saying that it is a myth by any means, but it seems to me that all the > germs are already on the mouth of the tick when it bites you. > > Daddybob > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 > 10:34 AM > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 as a rule there are to many coinfections in lyme for the zapper-in other words they donot work - not enough different frequencys for the different kinds if infections. it looks like strong topical mms could help more. rogernadon michel <nadonm@...> wrote: having very few ticks in canada ; I was just wondering how hulda clarkzapper would do on a tic bite spot. I know for a fact that if one leaves thezapper to long in one location a skin burn will happen so I can only assumethe germs would be dead long before thatMN [ ] Removing ticks>> I have found that any number of aromatic substances will kill a tick. Iget> them off my dog all the time that way now, they just drop off dead (I usea> drop of "Goof Off" on the dog). I'm not disputing the pull-off method, but> do we really know for sure that any method will not cause the dreaded> disgorgement into the host body? Right now, if I found a tick on me, the> first thing I would do is apply Tea Tree Oil or Oil of Oregano along with> DMSO in the hope that this would kill all pathogens in the tick and at the> bite site, regardless of disgorgement. Then I'd pull it off after maybeten> minutes. I have done this to myself last year. It does take some fortitude> not to grab that tick and pull immediately.>> I wonder if this disgorgment thing hasn't reached the status of myth. I'm> not saying that it is a myth by any means, but it seems to me that all the> germs are already on the mouth of the tick when it bites you.>> Daddybob>> No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG.> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008> 10:34 AM>>>> ------------------------------------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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