Re: Back on MMS

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I was under teh impression that Vit C and MMS was not compatible. It tended to weaken MMS. Eh?

doug (missouri)

[ ] Back on MMS

After a couple months of not taking it, I've decided to take MMS three nights a week, possibly Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, or would Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday be better? Six drops. I never made it up to 15 drops and no longer have that as my goal. 11 was my "record" and I didn't much like it. My point? Don't know, just that it wasn't that bad to go back on it. Also, I'm pretty certain that doing a lot of vitamin C during the day helps - I hadn't done that previously.

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I have had so much trouble. I really wonder how much to take. I

vomited at 9 drops went back to six - slowly went up to 12 drops and

vomited again and had diarrhoea for 36 hours. Went back to 6 again and

got to 14 and felt a little nausea then at fifteen [day before

yesterday] vomited again and diarrhoea still going. Took none last

night may not try tonight. I think that I can tolerate 6 best too.

Taken me 7 weeks to get this far.

Just don't now what to do for the best.

Judith

Dilworth wrote:

After a couple months of not taking it, I've decided to take MMS

three nights a week, possibly Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, or would

Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday be better? Six drops. I never made it up

to 15 drops and no longer have that as my goal. 11 was my "record" and

I didn't much like it. My point? Don't know, just that it wasn't that

bad to go back on it. Also, I'm pretty certain that doing a lot of

vitamin C during the day helps - I hadn't done that previously.

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It seems like you can get to the higher doses (14) after you

go through the initial period of vomiting and diarrhoea Judith so I think

you could make it to 15 drops after another round of dropping back and

then working back to higher dose, if you can bear it. Jim Humble

advocates just dropping back by a drop or 2 rather than dropping too far

back. Maybe when this latest round of V & D passes you can

experiment with dropping back 1 drop. Jim also says not to stop

altogether either. This all makes sense to me although I can't

articulate why at the moment. It's possible that the

conditions most of us are dealing with will respond differently to the

MMS than those Jim initially dealt with. I think he may still be

learning from all of us with various infections and/or diagnoses. I

am having problems too but mine are due to exacerbation of my systemic

symptoms rather than the V or D. I did experience them a couple of

months back though. I recently managed to get to 11 drops bid

(which was really heaps different from my previous responses) but then a

metallic taste in my mouth saw me lower my dose way down to 3 drops;

water tasted just awful! It's crazy how my treatment is going but I

will continue experimenting for some time yet. I've read

information that indicates some of us might have a genetic inability to

eliminate toxins well at all so that's a consideration I'm

entertaining. I have done a couple of moderated liver flushes with

the idea that doing them now and again might help with purging.

, I'm sure you know that Vit C is an oxidiser too thus is

counter-productive with MMS unless you keep them at least 4 hours

apart.

Best wishes.....LD in OZ (MMS since mid December 08)

At 11:38 AM 28/03/2008, you wrote:

I have had so much

trouble. I really wonder how much to take. I vomited at 9

drops went back to six - slowly went up to 12 drops and vomited again and

had diarrhoea for 36 hours. Went back to 6 again and got to 14 and felt a

little nausea then at fifteen [day before yesterday] vomited again and

diarrhoea still going. Took none last night may not try

tonight. I think that I can tolerate 6 best too. Taken me 7

weeks to get this far.

Just don't now what to do for the best.

Judith

Dilworth wrote:

After a couple months of not

taking it, I've decided to take MMS three nights a week, possibly

Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, or would Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday be

better? Six drops. I never made it up to 15 drops and no

longer have that as my goal. 11 was my " record " and I

didn't much like it. My point? Don't know, just that it

wasn't that bad to go back on it. Also, I'm pretty certain that

doing a lot of vitamin C during the day helps - I hadn't done that

previously.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, LD. I should have made it clearer in my post. Indeed, my MMS dose has been four hours after my last vitamin C dose. I believe it was Case that made this point (or maybe someone else, I don't remember) that if you're not very sick (but perhaps probably not super-healthy either) that too much MMS is counterproductive. In other words, if you feel like crap after 10 drops, not all of that is a herx. I feel like I'm in that camp. I can't comment credibly for people who have Lyme etc., but if you ramp up super-slowly with salt/C, I don't see why one shouldn't do the same with MMS - providing, of course, one is having terrible herxes. (If you're doing fine ramping up the usual way, then stick with that.) But like I said, just my opinion, I might be off-base.

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>

> I believe it was Case that made this point (or maybe someone

else, I don't remember) that if you're not very sick (but perhaps

probably not super-healthy either) that too much MMS is

counterproductive. In other words, if you feel like crap after 10

drops, not all of that is a herx. I feel like I'm in that camp.

>

I agree with not taking MMS if one is not sick.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,FYI, I was ramping up and down on MMS because of nausea and fatigue and diarrhea, and I'm now about 2 months into it and finally I can take the MMS without feeling like I'm sick.   I'm up to 12 drops 2 times per day and I have long entrenched lyme disease.   It was a rough 2 months but I feel much better (lyme symptoms are better) and taking the MMS is getting much easier every week that I'm on it.  I needed a few days break from MMS on and off for the first two months, but now I don't need a rest - I must have dumped lots of buggers and neurotoxins....  Anyway,  my point is that at 12 drops I don't feel like crap anymore so I'm in the camp that the crappy feeling from MMS is because you're killing stuff not because of the MMS.  Also my husband and a friend who do not have lyme took 15 drops a few days in a row and felt nothing.best regards,LydiaOn Mar 28, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Dilworth wrote:Thanks, LD.  I should have made it clearer in my post.  Indeed, my MMS dose has been four hours after my last vitamin C dose.  I believe it was Case that made this point (or maybe someone else, I don't remember) that if you're not very sick (but perhaps probably not super-healthy either) that too much MMS is counterproductive.  In other words, if you feel like crap after 10 drops, not all of that is a herx. I feel like I'm in that camp.  I can't comment credibly for people who have Lyme etc., but if you ramp up super-slowly with salt/C, I don't see why one shouldn't do the same with MMS - providing, of course, one is having terrible herxes.  (If you're doing fine ramping up the usual way, then stick with that.)  But like I said, just my opinion, I might be off-base.   Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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,

Like you, I am alternating my MMS days. I do 6 drops in the morning, every

other day and on the opposite days, I am doing lots of Vitamin C. I can't

deal with feeling ill because I work with the public and when I get to the

herx point, I was feeling lousy for about a week and had to be close to a

bathroom for about 4 days.

I will say that it did do something great for me. I have cystic acne in my

50s and it is all under my skin. Suddenly most of the really hard, deep,

cysts got soft and came to a head so I could get them out, after having them

live there in my skin for the past 30+ years. This happened about 3 days

after my horrid herx at 9 drops.

Eventually I will go up to 7 drops for a few weeks and then to 8, and maybe

start doing lesser drops on the inbetween days to see if I can build up to a

higher daily dose, but for now I am taking the consistant advice I often see

on this group, which is " take it slow " .

Diane

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[ ] Back on MMS

> After a couple months of not taking it, I've decided to take MMS three

nights a week, possibly Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, or would Sunday,

Tuesday and Thursday be better? Six drops. I never made it up to 15 drops

and no longer have that as my goal. 11 was my " record " and I didn't much

like it. My point? Don't know, just that it wasn't that bad to go back on

it. Also, I'm pretty certain that doing a lot of vitamin C during the day

helps - I hadn't done that previously.

>

>

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now.

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10:03 AM

[Guest guest]

Hey Judith,

I am able to tolerate as much as 17 drops at a time,

but went up to 25 once and had the same issue vomiting

and diarreah for two days. I am now penduluming my

dosages. I now split my dosages into two times a day

and do a 9 drop dose at about noon and another one

again before bed. According to the pendulum, my

dosage goes up and down. Some days it will tell me to

only do 6 drops, other days it will tell me to skip

altogether, and lately it has been at around 8-9

drops. I think the body does need a break especially

when you are herxing and that might be a good time to

back it down a bit if you aren't comfortable with

using a pendulum.

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I agree . It's never " off-base " to

offer suggestions to help me. Not to say I'll necessarily take it;

that depends on a host of other things. I can't get very high in

dose myself and am experimenting with various means of detox. Sorry

for the late response! I'm currently in a world of hurt since

starting iodine so am spending loads of time researching bromide,

fluoride & adrenal issues and have stopped almost everything I was

taking today, including MMS and the iodine while I swap it out for salt

to address the bromide issue. I continue with Vit C as well.

I will not go back on iodine till I sort out why taking it has resulted

in such incredible exacerbation of particular symptoms.

http://breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedominancetheory.html

http://breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedetoxsymptomsandstrategies.html

Thanks.......LD

At 10:41 PM 28/03/2008, you wrote:

Thanks, LD. I should have

made it clearer in my post. Indeed, my MMS dose has been four hours

after my last vitamin C dose.

I believe it was Case that made this point (or maybe someone else,

I don't remember) that if you're not very sick (but perhaps probably not

super-healthy either) that too much MMS is counterproductive. In

other words, if you feel like crap after 10 drops, not all of that is a

herx. I feel like I'm in that camp.

I can't comment credibly for people who have Lyme etc., but if you ramp

up super-slowly with salt/C, I don't see why one shouldn't do the same

with MMS - providing, of course, one is having terrible herxes. (If

you're doing fine ramping up the usual way, then stick with that.)

But like I said, just my opinion, I might be

off-base.