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Hi ,

We have been working for years with on potty training with not much

success. I think that part of the problem was that we (teachers, aides,

family members, and respite workers) weren't all doing the same thing. This

past year, we used potty training skills and sensory integration as a big

part of 's IEP. (His IEPs typically target life skills as opposed to

academics) He was to go to the bathroom every 2 hours at school then wash

his hands, comb his hair, put on lotion, etc. Obviously, he has a 1:1

aide...this is all very time consuming. At home, I started to do exactly

what they were doing at school and showed everyone here, including the

respite workers, what we were doing. After a few months, started to

be dry in-between toileting and he was peeing regularly in the toilet!

Unfortunately, in January, he had hip surgery and was in a body cast for

several months. He still isn't walking and we have not been able to go back

to that routine as yet. People told us that WE were the ones that were

trained because we were taking him to the bathroom every 2 hours.

Whatever....it was starting to work and that's what counts as far as I'm

concerned! We used Overnight (xtra large) during that process. Now we are

back to med. adult diapers. As soon as possible, we will try again! Good

luck!

Terry

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In a message dated 5/16/01 11:02:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tollytex@... writes:

> We're

> getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold enough. We are

> using good nights right now.

,

We use the goodnights too. They are delivered each month by a medical

supply company, paid for by Medical Assistance. Maddie is 7, DS/asd, and

weighs 46 pounds. We also, could never get her to sit on a toilet. But

her aide at school has her not only sitting, but she's made 2 deposits so

far. Carol says she's just persistent and rewarded Maddie for sitting.

While Maddie hasn't made any deposits at home, she now sits on the toilet for

me. I feel this is a BIG step!!!! Honestly, before I didn't know how we

were ever going to get her to sit.

Donna

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We are going to attempt it starting next month. Too much going on this month

and I want to be able ot focus on it.

Has anyone heard of those (gosh I dont know what theyre called)things that

beep or something when they wet their underwear? I've been trying to find

one with no luck. Any experiences w it and if so what were the results?

Thanks.

sandy

mom to Gabby (4, DS) and Adam (1)

>From: tollytex@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: thank you to all

>Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:51:12 -0000

>

>I wanted to thank all of you who responded to my e-mail. WOW there's

>a lot of you. I'm glad. I'm so glad I finally have a place to ask

>questions and there are people who can repond instead of " we'll have

>to wait and see " or " will do it when he's ready " How

>frustrating. Anyway, you all were very supportive and helpful. I

>now need to get my butt in gear and do something with all of this. I

>will start with the question that has been hanging over me for a

>while. POTTY TRAINING!!!! When and How? He likes to flush

>especially toilet paper, rolls and rolls. My husband wonders why I

>buy so much. He just doen't have the attention span to sit for more

>than 2 seconds. His teachers tried this year, but said that he

>doesn't have a schedule for it. She was putting him on every hour,

>but wouldn't go and then right after you put a new diaper on... Our

>biggest problem with this is that even as a baby, could care

>less that he is soaking wet. He'd run around all day with a dripping

>wet diaper soak through his pants and shirt and not care at all.

>I've tried everything I've read, but I'm wondering if there's

>something else or if it's too early. The other boy in his class that

>has Down syndrome, learned in a week using the same method they were

>trying on . Let me know if you have any suggestions. We're

>getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold enough. We are

>using good nights right now.

>

>Thank you

> Tollefson

>Mother of (6)DS-ASD/ADHD and Elisha 4 1/2 months

>

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In Texas, we don't have Medical Assistance. Believe me this is one of my

many battles. We had it in WI before we moved here. Texas doesn't have

state income tax. I'm trying to get reeducated on the government for this

one. So many battles so little time. I will have to check with my

insurance company to see if they will cover it. How did you get it

delivered? Was this through a medical supplier or the company directly?

is also 46 pounds. I'm anxious to get him toilet trained but I'm so

used to our on the go lifestyle. We have so many places we go, it's going

to be hard when it's stop for potty breaks. Oh well, it'll be cheaper!!!

Thanks,

Re: thank you to all

> In a message dated 5/16/01 11:02:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> tollytex@... writes:

>

>

> > We're

> > getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold enough. We are

> > using good nights right now.

>

> ,

> We use the goodnights too. They are delivered each month by a

medical

> supply company, paid for by Medical Assistance. Maddie is 7, DS/asd, and

> weighs 46 pounds. We also, could never get her to sit on a toilet.

But

> her aide at school has her not only sitting, but she's made 2 deposits so

> far. Carol says she's just persistent and rewarded Maddie for sitting.

> While Maddie hasn't made any deposits at home, she now sits on the toilet

for

> me. I feel this is a BIG step!!!! Honestly, before I didn't know how

we

> were ever going to get her to sit.

> Donna

>

>

>

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In Texas, we don't have Medical Assistance. Believe me this is one of my

many battles. We had it in WI before we moved here. Texas doesn't have

state income tax. I'm trying to get reeducated on the government for this

one. So many battles so little time. I will have to check with my

insurance company to see if they will cover it. How did you get it

delivered? Was this through a medical supplier or the company directly?

is also 46 pounds. I'm anxious to get him toilet trained but I'm so

used to our on the go lifestyle. We have so many places we go, it's going

to be hard when it's stop for potty breaks. Oh well, it'll be cheaper!!!

Thanks,

Re: thank you to all

> In a message dated 5/16/01 11:02:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> tollytex@... writes:

>

>

> > We're

> > getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold enough. We are

> > using good nights right now.

>

> ,

> We use the goodnights too. They are delivered each month by a

medical

> supply company, paid for by Medical Assistance. Maddie is 7, DS/asd, and

> weighs 46 pounds. We also, could never get her to sit on a toilet.

But

> her aide at school has her not only sitting, but she's made 2 deposits so

> far. Carol says she's just persistent and rewarded Maddie for sitting.

> While Maddie hasn't made any deposits at home, she now sits on the toilet

for

> me. I feel this is a BIG step!!!! Honestly, before I didn't know how

we

> were ever going to get her to sit.

> Donna

>

>

>

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Weve been using those good nights for years too, we

just go to our pharmacy and pick up anther case when

need more. shawna.

--- duffey48@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/16/01 11:02:17 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> tollytex@... writes:

>

>

> > We're

> > getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't

> hold enough. We are

> > using good nights right now.

>

> ,

> We use the goodnights too. They are delivered

> each month by a medical

> supply company, paid for by Medical Assistance.

> Maddie is 7, DS/asd, and

> weighs 46 pounds. We also, could never get her to

> sit on a toilet. But

> her aide at school has her not only sitting, but

> she's made 2 deposits so

> far. Carol says she's just persistent and

> rewarded Maddie for sitting.

> While Maddie hasn't made any deposits at home, she

> now sits on the toilet for

> me. I feel this is a BIG step!!!! Honestly,

> before I didn't know how we

> were ever going to get her to sit.

> Donna

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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oh yes i know those alarms you are talking about,they

make them for beds, i think jc pennies has one, and i

know i found some online a few years ago, still have

the stuff in my files somewhere, it was a wristband

that had a lead that went up the sleeve and then down

into there pants and if they started to go off, it

would sound an alarm of some type or beeping but if

your kid is a huge sweater as nathan is it might not

work as well confusing sweat for urine, this is nice

because they can wear anywhere even bed except shoer

or pool,lol. i think i searced incontinence or that

plus alarms. shawna.

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wrote:

> We are going to attempt it starting next month. Too

> much going on this month

> and I want to be able ot focus on it.

>

> Has anyone heard of those (gosh I dont know what

> theyre called)things that

> beep or something when they wet their underwear?

> I've been trying to find

> one with no luck. Any experiences w it and if so

> what were the results?

>

> Thanks.

>

> sandy

> mom to Gabby (4, DS) and Adam (1)

>

>

> >From: tollytex@...

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: thank you to all

> >Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:51:12 -0000

> >

> >I wanted to thank all of you who responded to my

> e-mail. WOW there's

> >a lot of you. I'm glad. I'm so glad I finally

> have a place to ask

> >questions and there are people who can repond

> instead of " we'll have

> >to wait and see " or " will do it when he's

> ready " How

> >frustrating. Anyway, you all were very supportive

> and helpful. I

> >now need to get my butt in gear and do something

> with all of this. I

> >will start with the question that has been hanging

> over me for a

> >while. POTTY TRAINING!!!! When and How? He likes

> to flush

> >especially toilet paper, rolls and rolls. My

> husband wonders why I

> >buy so much. He just doen't have the attention

> span to sit for more

> >than 2 seconds. His teachers tried this year, but

> said that he

> >doesn't have a schedule for it. She was putting

> him on every hour,

> >but wouldn't go and then right after you put a new

> diaper on... Our

> >biggest problem with this is that even as a baby,

> could care

> >less that he is soaking wet. He'd run around all

> day with a dripping

> >wet diaper soak through his pants and shirt and not

> care at all.

> >I've tried everything I've read, but I'm wondering

> if there's

> >something else or if it's too early. The other boy

> in his class that

> >has Down syndrome, learned in a week using the same

> method they were

> >trying on . Let me know if you have any

> suggestions. We're

> >getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold

> enough. We are

> >using good nights right now.

> >

> >Thank you

> > Tollefson

> >Mother of (6)DS-ASD/ADHD and Elisha 4 1/2

> months

> >

>

>

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Here are some websites to review on Toilet Training .

http://home.san.rr.com/t/treatment.html or

http://members.spree.com/autism/autism3t.htm or

http://www.accesin.com.au/~paris/autism/toilet.htm .

Good Luck !

Irma

-- In @y..., tollytex@y... wrote:

> I wanted to thank all of you who responded to my e-mail. WOW

there's

> a lot of you. I'm glad. I'm so glad I finally have a place to ask

> questions and there are people who can repond instead of " we'll

have

> to wait and see " or " will do it when he's ready " How

> frustrating. Anyway, you all were very supportive and helpful. I

> now need to get my butt in gear and do something with all of this.

I

> will start with the question that has been hanging over me for a

> while. POTTY TRAINING!!!! When and How? He likes to flush

> especially toilet paper, rolls and rolls. My husband wonders why I

> buy so much. He just doen't have the attention span to sit for

more

> than 2 seconds. His teachers tried this year, but said that he

> doesn't have a schedule for it. She was putting him on every hour,

> but wouldn't go and then right after you put a new diaper on...

Our

> biggest problem with this is that even as a baby, could care

> less that he is soaking wet. He'd run around all day with a

dripping

> wet diaper soak through his pants and shirt and not care at all.

> I've tried everything I've read, but I'm wondering if there's

> something else or if it's too early. The other boy in his class

that

> has Down syndrome, learned in a week using the same method they

were

> trying on . Let me know if you have any suggestions. We're

> getting too big for diapers and pull ups don't hold enough. We are

> using good nights right now.

>

> Thank you

> Tollefson

> Mother of (6)DS-ASD/ADHD and Elisha 4 1/2 months

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Lynne,

One of the issues of having a homebound teacher or tutor for us is

homework. I am constantly adjusting 's homework depending on his current

health. I usually tell the teacher's ahead of time, so they know that I'm

going to be adjusting it. For a while, he had eight or nine pages of work

every night, plus spelling words and fifteen minutes of reading!! He is

nine, and this is more than the twelve year old's do. So, I talked with the

learning specialist, and we adjusted it. Part of the equation for me is play

time. Since isn't in school, play time with his friends is every bit

as important as homework!! I'm so glad Sis is feeling better. Diflucan is

one of the greatest drugs ever made!

Sandi--Mom to , age 9. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Fallot,

chronic sinusitis, chronic ear infections, asthma, severe allergies, GERD.

Ten surgeries, heart surgery pending.

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Sandi,

Whoa, have I had a bad few couple of days!! Sis was doing better, then

all of a sudden she woke up, with her head stopped up, crying, her ears that

were pierced in June, they had puss running out of the holes, and her ear

lobes were red as an apple. I called the doc, the nurse didn't call me back

until 7:20 that night, she asked the usual, then when I told her she was on

the difulcan and EES, she freaked, and said who prescribed that? That those

two meds CAN NOT be taken together. I told her the doc did, but it was over

the weekend, so he didn't have her chart. She said we'll probably have to

run some kind of a heart test now on her since she was on both for seven

days. She said to take her off antibiotic and difulcan. Start the

antibiotic back on Saturday. The next day Sis was still doing horrible. I

stayed all day on the phone trying to find out why the insurance is denied

giving us the Zithromax Sis has been on and works the best. She didn't have

any sinus infections, or etc. while on it, she takes a teaspoon every day.

She's been doing that for two years. Now they denied it, we had to go to

this EES stuff, and to me her body is attacking itself. Meanwhile, I have

bill collectors calling and yelling at me that I HAVE to pay this bill or

that bill, hospital bills, doc bills, I told them we're doing the best we

can, he just yelled at me, I hung up. Finally that night I got ahold of

someone at the insurance that told me they are not deniying me the meds, they

are saying that every twelve days I have to come in for two more bottles, for

another copay. So I told her I can do that, just to get her back on the meds

she needs, and is best for her. Honestly, my hair is falling out over being

stressed about all this. Her ears looked so much better today, with just one

dose of the zithromax. I was crying all day yesterday, asking people to pray

for us. You would think there would be some way we could help financially

for these kids, and all their bills. Maybe there is, if so someone let me

know.

Okay, sorry I blew my horn so long. I'm still frustrated at all these

people.

Sometimes I have to tell her homebound teacher, whoa, we had a really bad

day, and didn't get anything done. So far she hasn't had a problem with it.

Take care, thanks for the ear.

Lynne

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Hi Lynne,

Fist of all never apologize for venting! That's one of the reasons we're

here. We all do if from time to time!!

About the Zithromax: I have this problem from time to time with 's

insurance company. He is allergic to five antibiotics and the ones he can

take, they never want to pay for!! So, I have called his insurance to find a

way around this. For us, we need to do a " Prior authorization " through the

Ped's office. Also, when I've been in a bind, I ask the Ped for samples

(this is often the easiest way around the problem). They almost always have

samples of Zithromax at the Peds. I'm not sure about the liquid, though, but

you might try asking. Since the Zithromax is small, could Sis swallow a

pill? I have taught how and he's been swallowing pills since age four.

Let me know if you want to know the technique, most kids have great success

with it.

It seems like when it rains, it pours as the old saying goes!! So true,

everything does seem to kind of pile up at once. Please let us know what

state you live in--someone here might have an idea of who you can call for

help with Sis's medical care. Here in my state, qualifies for state

insurance--I do not. Certain states have programs that help kids with

special needs. I'm hoping someone in this group will know of a program in

your state. You could also call your local office for Senior and Disabled

services and ask them what programs Sis might qualify for.

Please know I'm praying for you. Hang in there, you're doing an excellent

job!! Being an advocate for your child is a full time job all by itself!! I

do hope Sis is feeling better soon.

Sandi--Mom to , age 9. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Fallot,

chronic sinusitis, chronic ear infections, asthma, severe allergies, GERD.

Ten surgeries, heart surgery pending.

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I would LOVE to know the method to get kids to swallow pills!

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> Hi Lynne,

> Fist of all never apologize for venting! That's one of the reasons

we're

> here. We all do if from time to time!!

> About the Zithromax: I have this problem from time to time with 's

> insurance company. He is allergic to five antibiotics and the ones he can

> take, they never want to pay for!! So, I have called his insurance to find

a

> way around this. For us, we need to do a " Prior authorization " through

the

> Ped's office. Also, when I've been in a bind, I ask the Ped for samples

> (this is often the easiest way around the problem). They almost always

have

> samples of Zithromax at the Peds. I'm not sure about the liquid, though,

but

> you might try asking. Since the Zithromax is small, could Sis swallow a

> pill? I have taught how and he's been swallowing pills since age

four.

> Let me know if you want to know the technique, most kids have great

success

> with it.

> It seems like when it rains, it pours as the old saying goes!! So true,

> everything does seem to kind of pile up at once. Please let us know what

> state you live in--someone here might have an idea of who you can call for

> help with Sis's medical care. Here in my state, qualifies for state

> insurance--I do not. Certain states have programs that help kids with

> special needs. I'm hoping someone in this group will know of a program in

> your state. You could also call your local office for Senior and Disabled

> services and ask them what programs Sis might qualify for.

> Please know I'm praying for you. Hang in there, you're doing an

excellent

> job!! Being an advocate for your child is a full time job all by itself!!

I

> do hope Sis is feeling better soon.

>

> Sandi--Mom to , age 9. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Fallot,

> chronic sinusitis, chronic ear infections, asthma, severe allergies, GERD.

> Ten surgeries, heart surgery pending.

>

>

>

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,

has been swallowing pills sinc she was two. We started with sugar

pills and stuck them in grapes. After a few thats allit took. We then went

bigger to a sweet tart candy. She has been swallowing pills ever since.

Lorri Kraft ( 12 yrs CVID)

Re: thank you to all

I would LOVE to know the method to get kids to swallow pills!

Re: thank you to all

> Hi Lynne,

> Fist of all never apologize for venting! That's one of the reasons

we're

> here. We all do if from time to time!!

> About the Zithromax: I have this problem from time to time with

's

> insurance company. He is allergic to five antibiotics and the ones he

can

> take, they never want to pay for!! So, I have called his insurance to

find

a

> way around this. For us, we need to do a " Prior authorization " through

the

> Ped's office. Also, when I've been in a bind, I ask the Ped for samples

> (this is often the easiest way around the problem). They almost always

have

> samples of Zithromax at the Peds. I'm not sure about the liquid,

though,

but

> you might try asking. Since the Zithromax is small, could Sis swallow a

> pill? I have taught how and he's been swallowing pills since age

four.

> Let me know if you want to know the technique, most kids have great

success

> with it.

> It seems like when it rains, it pours as the old saying goes!! So

true,

> everything does seem to kind of pile up at once. Please let us know

what

> state you live in--someone here might have an idea of who you can call

for

> help with Sis's medical care. Here in my state, qualifies for

state

> insurance--I do not. Certain states have programs that help kids with

> special needs. I'm hoping someone in this group will know of a program

in

> your state. You could also call your local office for Senior and

Disabled

> services and ask them what programs Sis might qualify for.

> Please know I'm praying for you. Hang in there, you're doing an

excellent

> job!! Being an advocate for your child is a full time job all by

itself!!

I

> do hope Sis is feeling better soon.

>

> Sandi--Mom to , age 9. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Fallot,

> chronic sinusitis, chronic ear infections, asthma, severe allergies,

GERD.

> Ten surgeries, heart surgery pending.

>

>

>

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Hey, We tried a new way to get Lucas to swallow pills. It works great. We use

ice cream, hard frozen and only a small amout wrapped around the pill. It is

cold so the throat contracts and he swallows the bit whole. I have tried

many things but this seems to work best. He often does not even need water

afterwards. You need to make sure it is just the right size to swallow and

cover the pill completely. BARBIE( Lucas, CVID, Bipolar etc.)

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BE very careful with grapes with little kids. Unfortunately they fit

perfectly in the wind pipe and can plug it. Grapes need to be cut in half

before kids eat them. Very young kids under 3 may even needs grapes peeled.

This is from nursing experience with a 3 year old who is presently on a

ventilator at 16 with severe brain damage. Hot Dogs also should be cut in

half length wise for the same reasons. BARBIE ( With my medical hat on)

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Sandi,

Thanks for your input. I always feel so bad about blowing my horn. I

know a lot of people have far many more problems than Sis does, so I get

embarrassed to blow my top.

Sis has been taking pills for a long time, can't remember when she

started. She never had a problem. The pills for zithromax are more

expensive with the insurance than the liquid.

We live in Texas. I read Dale's input, I'll check out that stuff, and the

one's you suggested also. I appreciate all yall do.

Thanks again.

Lynne

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Just a quick one regarding getting kids to swallow tablets, I've found placing

them in a spoonful of yogurt is excellent, they just slip down the throat and it

hides the yucky taste too!

Tina

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Hello All,

My name is cynthia and I have been reading this group page for a

couple of weeks now as I am trying to decide if I should go ahead

with the SCS implant. I want to thank you all for taking the time to

share your lives here for me and others alike who often feel like we

are alone or even crazy with all the pain. For a long time I tried

to convince myself that the pain wasn't real and I would wake up

without it tomorrow. That day still has not come. I know you all

understand. Being able to read and interact with others who

understand brings me great comfort. I don't truly believe the Docs

even understand because they have never lived in our bodies.

So, thank you to you all who share your lives here. Thank you for

helping me thru the day and finding comfort in knowing I am not

alone. On the flip side of that my heart goes out to each and

everyone of you who lives your life in pain.

Does anyone live in or near Tulsa,Oklahoma?

Bless you and your families, your friends and care takers and the

medical community who is trying to help us too.

I send a prayer for you all that you have a great day today and feel

grateful for the good things in your life. Focus on what is

important. I too wish my house was cleaner but I focus on being

grateful for still having a house, a wonderful husband who supports

me in every way that I will let him and a support group that doesn't

expect me to be anyone else but myself.

With great appreciation to each of you, Thank You!!

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I live in huntsville, Arkansas about 2 hours away

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Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:49 AM

Hello All,

My name is cynthia and I have been reading this group page for a

couple of weeks now as I am trying to decide if I should go ahead

with the SCS implant. I want to thank you all for taking the time to

share your lives here for me and others alike who often feel like we

are alone or even crazy with all the pain. For a long time I tried

to convince myself that the pain wasn't real and I would wake up

without it tomorrow. That day still has not come. I know you all

understand. Being able to read and interact with others who

understand brings me great comfort. I don't truly believe the Docs

even understand because they have never lived in our bodies.

So, thank you to you all who share your lives here. Thank you for

helping me thru the day and finding comfort in knowing I am not

alone. On the flip side of that my heart goes out to each and

everyone of you who lives your life in pain.

Does anyone live in or near Tulsa,Oklahoma?

Bless you and your families, your friends and care takers and the

medical community who is trying to help us too.

I send a prayer for you all that you have a great day today and feel

grateful for the good things in your life. Focus on what is

important. I too wish my house was cleaner but I focus on being

grateful for still having a house, a wonderful husband who supports

me in every way that I will let him and a support group that doesn't

expect me to be anyone else but myself.

With great appreciation to each of you, Thank You!!

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