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[Guest guest]

I am trying to find out what medium MBPI uses to grow the anthrax cultures.

My concern with the medium is whether it is a synthetic substance or are they

using aborted fetus tissue? It aborted fetus tissue is used it violates

Federal law for experimentation using aborted fetus tissue. It is also a

very good way for members to refuse the vaccine for religious reasons! I was

taking the HepB vaccine program but found out that the vaccine was grown

using aborted fetus tissue in a sterile synthetic medium. My family is

planning on suing the manufacturer for not informing us before our children

innocently assisted in the murder of children for profit. Thank you for your

site and I hope you can help me with this question.

[Guest guest]

HELLO,

HOW ARE YOU LORI, THIS IS ERIC MYERS HERE. I SUPPOSE YOU HAVE ALLREADY

HEARD WHAT HAPPENED AT CAMP PENDLETON ON 7/12/99 AND 7/13/99 BUT IN CASE YOU

DIDNT ILL TELL YOU. MY COURT MARTIAL MOTION HEARING WERE JUST LIKE THE ONES

AT 29 PALMS, THE JUDGE IS NOT GOING TO LET ANY EVIDENCE OR WITTNESSES INTO

THE TRIAL ON AUGUST 12 & 13. MY LAWYERS SAID I WILL BE CONVICTED BECAUSE,

WELL THEY WONT LET ME DEFEND MYSELF IN ANY COMPACITY THIS IS DEFINETLY NOT

DUE PROCESS. MY LAWYERS ALSO INFORMED ME I WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO THE BRIG

FOR ATLEAST 3 MONTHS AND FACE A BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE OR RETENTION AND A

GENERAL COURT MARTIAL AND A DISHONORBLE DISCHARGE.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS LEGAL ATROCITY AND KNOW THAT

INNOCENT SOLDIERS ARE HAVING THEIR LIFES DESTROYED, AND FOR WHAT? REFUSING A

NOW QUITE CONTROVERSILE ANTHRAX VACCINE. ERIC MYERS

[Guest guest]

Hang in there, .... you're not alone at this hypocrisy that's going on

throughout the military. Even if you get three months (which by the way, I

find COMPLETELY ridiculous), you'll have the rest of your life afterwards

with no fear of what may happen to you in the future due to a " controversy

vaccine " . We've all seen what's been happening to the active duty as a

result of this program, and it's very disheartening. You at least took a

stand. Be proud of that. How many others are not?, and how many others are

suffering? Your life will go on. Go on with your life and be healthy......

<< HELLO,

HOW ARE YOU LORI, THIS IS ERIC MYERS HERE. I SUPPOSE YOU HAVE ALLREADY

HEARD WHAT HAPPENED AT CAMP PENDLETON ON 7/12/99 AND 7/13/99 BUT IN CASE YOU

DIDNT ILL TELL YOU. MY COURT MARTIAL MOTION HEARING WERE JUST LIKE THE ONES

AT 29 PALMS, THE JUDGE IS NOT GOING TO LET ANY EVIDENCE OR WITTNESSES INTO

THE TRIAL ON AUGUST 12 & 13. MY LAWYERS SAID I WILL BE CONVICTED BECAUSE,

WELL THEY WONT LET ME DEFEND MYSELF IN ANY COMPACITY THIS IS DEFINETLY NOT

DUE PROCESS. MY LAWYERS ALSO INFORMED ME I WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO THE BRIG

FOR ATLEAST 3 MONTHS AND FACE A BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE OR RETENTION AND A

GENERAL COURT MARTIAL AND A DISHONORBLE DISCHARGE.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS LEGAL ATROCITY AND KNOW THAT

INNOCENT SOLDIERS ARE HAVING THEIR LIFES DESTROYED, AND FOR WHAT? REFUSING A

NOW QUITE CONTROVERSILE ANTHRAX VACCINE. ERIC MYERS >>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT

I'LL KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS SITUATION.

ERIC

>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:16:17 EDT

>

>From: Randice1@...

>

>Hang in there, .... you're not alone at this hypocrisy that's going on

>throughout the military. Even if you get three months (which by the way, I

>find COMPLETELY ridiculous), you'll have the rest of your life afterwards

>with no fear of what may happen to you in the future due to a " controversy

>vaccine " . We've all seen what's been happening to the active duty as a

>result of this program, and it's very disheartening. You at least took a

>stand. Be proud of that. How many others are not?, and how many others

>are

>suffering? Your life will go on. Go on with your life and be

>healthy......

>

><< HELLO,

> HOW ARE YOU LORI, THIS IS ERIC MYERS HERE. I SUPPOSE YOU HAVE ALLREADY

> HEARD WHAT HAPPENED AT CAMP PENDLETON ON 7/12/99 AND 7/13/99 BUT IN CASE

>YOU

> DIDNT ILL TELL YOU. MY COURT MARTIAL MOTION HEARING WERE JUST LIKE THE

>ONES

> AT 29 PALMS, THE JUDGE IS NOT GOING TO LET ANY EVIDENCE OR WITTNESSES

>INTO

> THE TRIAL ON AUGUST 12 & 13. MY LAWYERS SAID I WILL BE CONVICTED BECAUSE,

> WELL THEY WONT LET ME DEFEND MYSELF IN ANY COMPACITY THIS IS DEFINETLY

>NOT

> DUE PROCESS. MY LAWYERS ALSO INFORMED ME I WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO THE

>BRIG

> FOR ATLEAST 3 MONTHS AND FACE A BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE OR RETENTION AND A

> GENERAL COURT MARTIAL AND A DISHONORBLE DISCHARGE.

> I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS LEGAL ATROCITY AND KNOW

>THAT

> INNOCENT SOLDIERS ARE HAVING THEIR LIFES DESTROYED, AND FOR WHAT?

>REFUSING A

> NOW QUITE CONTROVERSILE ANTHRAX VACCINE. ERIC MYERS

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My name is Byrnes. I am a television reporter from Burlington, VT. I am

hoping to talk to some military folks in Vermont who may have concerns over the

Anthrax vaccination process. I am currently doing research about anthrax for a

future tv story.

If anyone on this list is from Vermont or knows someone from VT or even in New

England I would very much like to talk to them.

Thank you.

Byrnes

WCAX-TV/ Ch.3 News

Burlington, VT

(802) 652 6388

byrnes@...

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

If you are serious about doing some real digging into

this matter, welcome aboard. We(everybody in the

military) need your(the media) help.

The Anthrax Vaccination Immunization Program(AVIP) is

a major story just waiting to be busted wide open by

courageous s reporter. I'm going to give you just a

few directions to go in and you can take up the charge

from there. Just keep in the back of your head that

the Department of Defense(DoD) has misled our forces

in the past(remember the nuclear testing, and Agent

Orange) and they could be doing it again. Be

skeptical!!!

Who did the only human testing and when was the

testing done? Was it using current technowledgy?

Look into who makes the vaccine, the owners and there

history. Start with Michigan Biologic Products

Institute. When did the FDA give the license to

manufacture the vaccine? What did the FDA threaten

MBPI with if they didn't clean up their act? Who

funded the renovations? Who's making the money off

this deal? Are there any bad lot numbers? Why did

the Army grant immunity to BioPort for possible

litigation against their company?

Look to the Ft Detrick meeting that took place 25-27

May 1999. What did this meeting start out as and how

did it finish?

Look into the Tripler Army Hospital study that is

underway right now. How many people are under study

and what is their reaction rate?

Can we detect the Anthrax Spore? If so, Why

vaccinate with a vaccine that has NO LONG TERM

studies? Shouldn't we treat if exposed(similiar to

chemical weapon exposure?) The treatment is this same

for vaccinated and non-vaccinated people.

Concerning the National Guard, who is going to pay for

the treatment of a person if they get sick from the

shot? They're not like the Active Duty. They are

civilians that occasionally work for the military.

Will the military or their CIVILIAN Health Care

Provider pay for care?

, dig deep and dig hard. We need you....

A concerned military vet,

Chipper

--- Byrnes <byrnes@...> wrote:

> From: Byrnes <byrnes@...>

>

> Hello,

>

> My name is Byrnes. I am a television reporter

> from Burlington, VT. I am

> hoping to talk to some military folks in Vermont who

> may have concerns over the

> Anthrax vaccination process. I am currently doing

> research about anthrax for a

> future tv story.

> If anyone on this list is from Vermont or knows

> someone from VT or even in New

> England I would very much like to talk to them.

> Thank you.

>

> Byrnes

> WCAX-TV/ Ch.3 News

> Burlington, VT

> (802) 652 6388

> byrnes@...

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

Wait til you see who the two major stock holders are! They sure don't

have much allegiance to this country, other than to its money!

RICHARD H FILLMAN wrote:

>

> From: " RICHARD H FILLMAN " <RFILLMAN@...>

>

> I just started researching the Anthrax issue and found something very

> alarming.....

>

> (I don't know if it's been broached on the list yet)

>

> One of the board of directors and owners of BioPort Corp is a former

> Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - Admiral Crowe. Hmmmmm I wonder who

> lobbied the military leadership to press forward with an Anthrax vaccine?

>

> RF

[Guest guest]

I just started researching the Anthrax issue and found something very

alarming.....

(I don't know if it's been broached on the list yet)

One of the board of directors and owners of BioPort Corp is a former

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - Admiral Crowe. Hmmmmm I wonder who

lobbied the military leadership to press forward with an Anthrax vaccine?

RF

[Guest guest]

I just started reading the articles on the online and wanted to

give my experience with the vaccine. I am a 17 year MSgt in the USAF. About

18 months ago I went in for a hernia operation while I was stationed at Osan

AB in S Korea. Everything was going fine after the surgery and the surgeon

took me off my wavier, with no restrictions. A couple of months after the

surgery I was notified that I had to get my first Anthrax vaccine. I asked

my surgeon if this would be a problem, and he basically said that he did not

know enough about the vaccine, but there shouldn't be a problem. About a month

after the 2nd vaccine in the series I started experiencing pain in my right

hip area including the groin area. I went to the surgeon and he told me that

it was probably an entrapped nerve. After the pain got worse the surgeon (a

different one) started giving me steroid shots to see if that would help. It

would help for a week or two but the pain would come back and worse. After

six months of dealing with this I PCS'd to -Monthan AFB in Arizona. I

started seeing a surgeon there and basically told the same thing that it was

a nerve problem. By this time I could not even bend over and touch my toes.

After a couple of months of this I told the surgeon that I thought it was not

the nerve and wanted another opinion from a Orthopedic specialist (this was

in Jul 99). Well he did some xrays and said I had arthritis in the hip and

that I probably would have to have a hip replacement in a few years (his

exact words were " your hip looks like a 65 year old man). I could not

believe this because just before I had the hernia surgery I was running 5 to

10 Miles a day, and still doing atleast 2 more hours of Areobic type

excercise in the gym with no pain at all.

It's now Sep 99 and now I have really bad arthritis in my hands, ankles,

knees, and shoulders. All the blood tests they have done has come back

negative for arthritis, valley fever, and who knows what else. I can't do

much of anything physically any more, and its not getting any better. Right

now the AF wants to send me to an allergist to see if I show a allergic

reation to anthrax. If I don't I was told that I would have to continue with

my anthrax vaccines. You know it's really hard when you have to tell your 8

year old son that you can't play catch with him because your body hurts too

much. What is really funny is since I started feeling that it might have the

anthrax doing this to my body I haven't seen a doctor, its just been PAs.

Well I could keep on rambling on but I will just get more upset.

bye

[Guest guest]

Same story over and over, it's arthritis but all the tests say negative. Oh,

but it can't be the vaccine, it's safe, sterile, and effective. Right.