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WOW!!!!! Look what you all did responding to the poll. My response isn't

there and many of yours - as they say they only printed some due to space.

The most response they have EVER had!

Sheri

http://www.kovr.com

Yesterday's Question:

Should military personnel be forced to get Anthrax

vaccinations?

The response to the question was one of the largest we have

ever received at the KOVR 13 web site. We did our best to

post as many of the responses as we could, but there were

many more good posts we just didn't have space for. If you'd

like to talk more about this topic, try our message and chat

boards. This is a serious topic we'd like to hear more of your

thoughts on.

Yes: 10% No: 90%

Here is what you had to say (Note: In order to preserve the

exact intent of the comments, no changes have been made

and they appear exactly as we received them, including all

spelling errors; Not all responses are published for space

considerations):

Gallegos / Florence, SC:

" I think it should be on a voluntary basis. I myself refused the

vaccine and was discharged from the Air Force on Nov

13,1998.n I am a single mother and the military made it impossible

for me to receive unemployment benefits while looking for a job.

How was I supposed to provide for my daughter? I wanted to

stay in. The military has such a problem retaining people as it is,

why would they throw away a great troop? I could go on for a

while about my story, but I will spare you the time. "

Graves / Grayslake, Ill:

" There has been a FDA list of contaminated vaccine and it is being

give when it should be disposed of--these men and women should

have the right to choose what they have to take--many are getting

sick from this vaccine and should not be used as guinea pigs

Someone should stop this and find out what is going on. "

Udo Bengs / Yuba City, CA:

" Spent 20 years in the military and never trusted them. Everything

works perfectly to them. "

Ray B. , Jr. / East Flat Rock, NC:

" As long as a person is under oath to obey all lawful orders, they

should obey. And prform their duty to protect and defend our

Nation. You can not pick and choose which orders to obey. All

military persons must go into the valley of the shadow of death;

hopefully up the hill and home. But, into the valley no matter what. "

Clay / WA:

" I want my body to last as long as possible. The vaccine has not

been studied long enough to determine side affects in the future. I

also do not want to risk not being able to have a son or daughter. "

Ed / Nevada City, CA:

" What a stupid question. If the military comes to the conclusion

that this is necessary for combat readiness, then of course, military

personnel need to be vaccinated. Can you imagine the outrage

from the public and the press if some military disaster happened

because they had left it up to the option of each person in the

military. "

Pat Hanson / Yuba City, CA:

" I do not feel that the government has the right to do this as we can

sign waivers for what they consider life saving inocculations for

school age children. I am healthier than 99% of co-workers and all

thrugh school, healthier than my classmates. My father was a

doctor of chiropratics and felt that this intrusion upon our bodies of

foreign and dangerous elements was uncalled for. I have carried

this theory with me and on to my children as their choice, their

body. My father knw what was contained in the innoculations and

therefore his reasoning. "

a Cruz / Sacramento, CA:

" As an ex Air Force wife, I will say this, once you sign on the

dotted line, Uncle Sam can take away your birthday if he wants to.

When it comes to ones body and mind, the military doesn't give a

damn about you. You're a pawn in their games and when you're

done bending over, they kick you to the curb. I've seen it. I think

we need to see some shaking going on in the military. What's

wrong with this picture when your boss tells you your body is not

your own? And how many of the bigwigs would be willing to inject

their own children with anthrax and push them on the front lines? "

Anonymous / Vacaville, CA:

" The problem with the military's case against Jeff is that he was

never issued a " Legal Order. " The Anthrax Vaccine that is being

administered to our active duty troops has not been tested

properly and " may " cause cancer, birth defects, or other medical

problems throughout the military member's life. Our troops are

taking part in " Medical Experimentation " that was suposed to have

been outlawed after the Nuremberg Trials. Jeff was issued an

" immoral order " by his commander and is therefore due an

apology, as are the 2.4 million other troops that are scheduled to

be a part of this Biological Experiment. "

/ Glendale, AZ:

" I think that my husband and all of the military personnel should be

given all the facts on the vaccine and make their own decision. "

Lancaster / Virginia Beach, VA:

" My husband, US Navy, is getting ready to refuse the vaccine

after 3 months of research on our part to find out more

information. We are willing to face the punishment from the Navy

for refusal. As my husband stated in a letter to his congressman: " I

love my country and am happy to serve it and die for it, for I

cannot live with the thought of my country potentially hurting me " "

Doug / , CA:

" It is a condition of service that all of the (approx)1.4 million active

duty (plus Reserve and Guard) personnel will obey all lawful

orders. The military is not a democracy, the " pick and choose "

theory does not exist. The airmen stated that the shot might be

harmful to his health. He has selected the wrong career if his

personal safety is his #1 priority. Show him the gate before he

elects to disobey any other orders. The loss of his services will not

be noticed. The order that bothers him is lawful. (Note: your term

" forced " in connection with the expectation of obedience to lawful

orders may not represent the content of the oath taken at

enlistment.) "

E. M. Fisher / Mobile, Al:

" I believe the order for anthrax vaccinations should be suspended

until proved safe, or vaccinations should begin with the first one

going to the Secratary of Defense, and be given to all Officers in

sequence down the chain of command, first, before the grunts are

required to take them against their will. "

Carolyn Mannarino / Sacramento, CA:

" I don't understand why the Military should be forced to take an

Anthrax vaccination. If they are in a situation where they are to be

exposed to Anthrax, and they are given plenty of information why

they are taking it, this doesn't seem like a situation where they

would refuse to help protect themselves. It should be optional. "

Maureen / Efland, NC:

" Our son was a Gulf War Veteran and died when he was 27 years

old. We as parents and he as a veteran didn't even know about

GWI. These shots and the cocktail of shots are doing harm to

many. Over 15,000 Gulf War Veterans have died since coming

home from the gulf. The shots are the only common link between

the illness and damage causing so many to be ill. The blood supply

of most of the Gulf War Veterans is tainted. Thank you for

bringing this to the attention of the public. Please keep up the good

work and inform as many as you can that these shots have been

proven to be poorly manufactured and the FDA did not approve

of them. Our sons and daughters that go to war should not be

used as guinea pigs by our government. "

April Flagg / Okinawa, Japan:

" My husband has been in the Marine Corps for 16 years. He has

taken the first shot but I don't think he'll take any more. He took it

because he's scared that all his years in svc. will be ruined because

of this. BUT...we are about to start trying to have children. We

were about to start having children. Now we're not sure. This

should not be a decision he (we) are forced to make. POSSIBLE

bith defects or 16 years for nothing. "

Norma Plavi / Nemacolin, PA:

" This vaccine should be optional only . The military says they want

to protect our soldiers by giving this vaccine , one day your a good

soldier than the day you refuse the shot your no longer a good

soldier because they say you refuse an order.How does refusing a

vaccine that one believes may be harmful to their health be

consider disobeying an order if in your mind it is truly harmful . "

Schuck Jr. / Norfolk VA:

" Yes - especially when the inhaltaion form of this disease is

DEADLY! In biological warfare you cannot see, smell, taste, or

hear the agent when it " hits " you. By the time you develop the

symptoms it is simply too late - I'd be dead. "

Lynn Holmstrom / ton, Ill:

" The men and women who join the military should not be used as

" guinea pigs " in a govenrment experiment. They should have the

right to say no to anything being put into their bodies against their

wishes. When they join the service, they should not have to give

up their rights as American citizens. If the military feels these

vaccinations are safe ( as they claim) than they should be available

to the service men & women to take voluntarily. The information

that the military is giving to these men & women regarding the

Anthrax vaccine is full of flaws. The information being offered does

not reflect the countless articles and comments from experts all

over the country who dispute the vaccines' effectiveness and

safety. It seems that someone out there is getting rich off of this

entire charade. "

Sonya Whitmire / Greenwood, SC:

" Its morally wrong to force a vaccine upon a person whether your

in the Armed Forces or not. They have rights as any American. I

am against the anthrax vaccine there hasn't been enough studies to

prove that is would fight against the anthrax. "

Anonymous / Seattle, WA:

" After the third shot I almost immediately developed severe

blinding headaches. After a week of suffering I reported to the

medical clinic, and was issued two Migraine medicines (I have

never been diagnosed as having migraines before) It took five

hourly doses before this long term headache subsided. One of the

" official " legitimate reasons for not having to take the shots is

allergic reactions. A week of headaches does not qualify as

sufficient reaction, even though medical intervention was necessary

to stop it. "

Pamela Stansbury / Houston, TX:

" My son was serving in the US Navy aboard the aircraft carrier

Stennis when he was told he MUST take the anthrax

vaccine. He was one of the few who refused and, although he had

only six months left to serve, he was punished severely and

continually until given a General Discharge under Honorable

Conditions in October '98. He lost some of his benefits but he

never hesitated in his decision. He'll now never have to worry

about any possible side effects. I have always been behind him

100% and feel all military personnel should have the choice. There

are too many unanswered questions and much more research that

needs to be done. A lot of people out here are fighting for our

military personnel so they don't have to suffer the fears,

intimidations and punishments the military inflicts on them.

Unfortunately, this kind of treatment is going to continue unless the

anthrax vaccine becomes a choice. "

Pam / Dixon, CA:

" Just a couple of questions. If Saddam Hussein stated he was

developing the ebola virus for incorporation to military warheads,

would the US develop an ebola vaccine and administer it to all the

troops? Are the present troops acting as the long term study

specimens for this vaccination with results to follow? Those who

do not study history are bound to repeat it....Nuclear goggle tests

during WWII...Agent Orange...Desert Storm Illness... "

Cpl USMC / Miramar, CA:

" The vaccine will only protect from 1 strain of the anthrax virus the

strains used in combat are not affected by the vaccine at all so why

use it? Plus there has been no testing done on whether or not it

affects the reproductive systems of humans or animals. Also the

one and only company that makes it has been shut down by the

FDA for failing inspections. I am in the Military, with a perfect

record and I face a discharge for refusing this shot? am i the one

who is crazy? "

Heater / Okinawa, Japan:

" They (the military) believe we are nothing more than their pawns.

It is a crime against humanity, our democracy, and our rights as a

human beings to force us to take these shots. By force I mean we

either take the drug or we get court martialed. I love my country, I

love my job, but I will not stand by and let them push their

needless propaganda on me. I only hope that my actions by

refusing this drug will not bring shame to my family. I would rather

take absolute consequences now rather than suffer possible and

much more damaging consequences in the future. "

Anonymous / CA:

" Military personnel should not be allowed to decide which orders

they follow and which orders they don't. Part of being in the

military entails following orders quickly and without question. "

Anononymous / ville, FL:

" I think it is totally wrong! I will be forced sometime in Feb to

begin getting the vaccination. I did research for the past few

months and found that the government lied about a few things, for

example, many veterinarians have been getting the vaccine since

1970. An online group contacted two local vets and found that

most never even heard of it, one said he\she believes animals get

them sometimes. That's what Uncle Sam says they based their

long term effects on. They say " Its been around for 29 years and

nobody got sick. " I am in the Navy set to deploy to the Gulf in

March. There are many, many people considering refusing to take

the shots, but the UCMJ is there to scare and it will. Most people

will be afraid of an undesirable discharge, myself included. It's kind

of like deciding to be a lab rat. They said Agent Orange and

injecting people with radioactive material was safe also. Please do

a story on this, I think it is a huge story that the DoD is trying their

best to keep a lid on. "

Max Pinkus / St. Louis, MO:

" There are many versions of the anthrax bacteria. If the army

inoculates for one strain, do you really think the opposing forces

will not be aware. If they can make one strain they will be able to

make another type of strain. The vaccine will then be useless and

our troops will have been subjected to this worthless vaccine. We

don't even know what the long term effects of this vaccine are. "

Ash / Lenexa, KA:

" I do not think the government or the military has any right to force

vaccinations or shots on members of the military or anyone else.

The vaccine has not been proven and there is little likelyhood that

it will be effective against an altered strain of anthrax. I still

remember the swine flu shots the government wanted us to take. "

N. A. Siciliana / Canada:

" There is so much evidence of the dangers posed to the human

body by the entire process of vaccination (which, by the way,

provides very little immunity anyway) that no one should be forced

to get vaccinations of any kind. I know of a case of a Canadian

soldier who was asked to leave the army for refusing to submit to

the anthrax vaccination requirement--a decision he made after

noticing and documenting the effects of forced vaccines on people

around him, and after he educated himself to the dangers of

vaccine in general by reading some of the countless studies

published in medical journals from all over the world. There are a

number of steps which could be taken in the event of biological

warfare, where many diseases such as anthrax may be used as

weapons--but creating a subacute form of the disease in healthy

people as a prophylactis against the disease is just too risky for

anyone's good. "

Nielsen / Fairfield, CA:

" Not only has this vaccination not been proven to be safe, there is

a long track record of serious violations of the plant that produces

this vaccine. As the wife of a Navy sailor, I am an advocate for the

rights of all military personnel who refuse this vaccination. These

men and women put there lives on the line to protect our country.

They should not have to fear their own government and what they

are being injected with. "

E. Klein / Milton, FL:

" My husband spent 30 years in the Navy. My son is in the Navy

right now and has been for 3 years. Women and Men are putting

their lives in danger so all here can feel safe. They are also humans

with families and friends who love them. We people are not rats or

other types of animals without voices. If a person disagree with a

type of medication due to fears of safety or lack of full tests why

shouldn't they have the right to say NO. Every Man and Women

on earth has the right to disagree or refuse something that can hurt

them. Why should the most brave in our country not have the

same rights as those of us feeling safe and protected. "

J. Ruede / Fort Worth, TX:

" Military personnel do not (or should not) give up their rights as

human beings when they go into the military. It should be up to

each person to weigh the possible risks and benefits of a vaccine,

and act accordingly. It is well known that many people--children

OR adults--cannot tolerate live-virus vaccines and are harmed by

them. No one should be forced by the government to take such a

step. "

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