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Hi Anja,

Both my sister and I used the consultant eye surgeon Mr Collin @

Moorfields Eye Hospital in London. Although the hospital is NHS, as

Mr Collin is a consultant, you can use him privately which is the

route we took. I have put his secretary's numbers down below for

his private patients:-

Mr Collin MA FRCS FRCOphth

020 7486 2699

020 7486 8626

He is based in Harley Street in London.

Mr Collin is the best surgeon that we saw and has a lot of expertise

in BPES correction (i think I should get some commission from him!!)

Hope this helps,

Hannah

In blepharophimosis , " Anja Shahin "

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> Hello,

>

> I have a question for those who had their surgeries done at

Moorfelds

> Hospital in London.

> Do you have any surgeon names? Anyone able to recommend a surgeon

at

> Moorfields?

>

> Thank you

>

> Anja

>

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hi anja ............. i went to falmouth hosp for my first op at the age of 11 ... then to moorfields to have the big op ( muscle taken from my leg ) at the age of 16 .......... if your coming to london let me know and maybe we can meet up ....... or call me and maybe i can help more ok :) scott

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Hi Hannah and ,

Thanks for the info about Dr. Collin. Your pics both look just amazing!!!!!

He really seems to know his job!! Hannah, do you also have any " before "

pics?

How many surgeries has Dr. Collin performed on you (Hannah and )? Wich

one did he do first and at what age?

I guess that the costs were not covered by your health insurance?

We will definitely travel to London this year to meet Dr. Collin (we live in

Germany)! Fortunately my mother in law lives in London.

Thank you again!!!! Anja

>From: " sadieben2000 " <hannah.goodman31@...>

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>blepharophimosis

>Subject: blepharophimosis Re: Moorfields Hospital

>Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:06:32 -0000

>

>Hi Anja,

>

>Both my sister and I used the consultant eye surgeon Mr Collin @

>Moorfields Eye Hospital in London. Although the hospital is NHS, as

>Mr Collin is a consultant, you can use him privately which is the

>route we took. I have put his secretary's numbers down below for

>his private patients:-

>

>Mr Collin MA FRCS FRCOphth

>020 7486 2699

>020 7486 8626

>

>He is based in Harley Street in London.

>

>Mr Collin is the best surgeon that we saw and has a lot of expertise

>in BPES correction (i think I should get some commission from him!!)

>

>Hope this helps,

>

>Hannah

>

>

>

> In blepharophimosis , " Anja Shahin "

><anjashahin@h...> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have a question for those who had their surgeries done at

>Moorfelds

> > Hospital in London.

> > Do you have any surgeon names? Anyone able to recommend a surgeon

>at

> > Moorfields?

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > Anja

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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Hello Hannah! Maree in NZ here. You mentioned ? I just

looked at s old records & his name was mentioned in a letter

from her ophtham...to another man, who had trained under said R.

at More-fields. This man, who had trained under was

being asked to take on as a patient due to his previous

experience & training. So some `experts` are happy to acknowledge

their lack of knowlegde & pass us on! This was back in 1991 & way

down here in N.Z. so he must certainly have some credentials. Hannah,

if he operated on you, then he certainly did a good job going by your

pics!

Bye now

Maree

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have a question for those who had their surgeries done at

> Moorfelds

> > Hospital in London.

> > Do you have any surgeon names? Anyone able to recommend a surgeon

> at

> > Moorfields?

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > Anja

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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Anja

When you come to London, if you want to get in touch, let me know. I live pretty close to Moorfields, and I have seen Mr. Collin too (but long ago).

By the way, he is "Mr Collin", as Hannah has written.

In the UK, surgeons are called "Mr" (or Mrs, Ms) - not "Dr".

here is why:

Surgeons, or rather male surgeons, are always addressed as Mr in the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, sometimes but not always in Australia and New Zealand, and rarely in Canada or the United States. This curious British tradition is such a mystery to doctors in other countries as well as to the British public, that even a work as erudite as the 1996 edition of The New Fowler's Modern English Usage seems to have got it wrong.1 Is it therefore a tradition that should be perpetuated indefinitely, or should it be abandoned?

To understand how the tradition arose it is necessary to go back to the beginning of the 18th century, when physicians were distinguished by the possession of a university medical degree: an MD. Although many had acquired their MDs abroad with minimal effort or bought them for about £20 (about £800 today) from the Universy of Aberdeen or of St s, the possession of a medical doctorate entitled physicians and no other medical practitioner to be addressed as "doctor." Eighteenth century surgeons, who were of course addressed as Mr, seldom had any formal qualification except in the case of the few who were Members of the Company of Surgeons. After the founding of the Royal College of Surgeons of London in 1800, however, it was customary for surgeons to take the examination for Membership of the Royal College of Surgeons and put MRCS after their name.2

.... Surgeons became so proud to be distinguished from physicians that the title of Mr became a badge of honour

this quote came from: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1589

Shireen

blepharophimosis Re: Moorfields Hospital>Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:06:32 -0000>>Hi Anja,>>Both my sister and I used the consultant eye surgeon Mr Collin @>Moorfields Eye Hospital in London. Although the hospital is NHS, as>Mr Collin is a consultant, you can use him privately which is the>route we took. I have put his secretary's numbers down below for>his private patients:->>Mr Collin MA FRCS FRCOphth>020 7486 2699>020 7486 8626>>He is based in Harley Street in London.>>Mr Collin is the best surgeon that we saw and has a lot of expertise>in BPES correction (i think I should get some commission from him!!)>>Hope this helps,>>Hannah>>>> In blepharophimosis , "Anja Shahin"><anjashahin@h...> wrote:> > Hello,> >> > I have a question for those who had their surgeries done at>Moorfelds> > Hospital in London.> > Do you have any surgeon names? Anyone able to recommend a surgeon>at> > Moorfields?> >> > Thank you> >> > Anja> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Die ultimative Fan-Seite für den MSN Messenger>http://www.ilovemessenger.de> > Emoticons und Hintergründe kostenlos downloaden!>_________________________________________________________________Die ultimative Fan-Seite für den MSN Messenger http://www.ilovemessenger.de Emoticons und Hintergründe kostenlos downloaden!

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Hi Shireen,

It would be great to meet you in London. Thanks for the explanation that was

quite interesting. I’ll keep in touch when we are coming.

Anja

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><blepharophimosis >

>Subject: RE: blepharophimosis RE: Re: Moorfields Hospital

>Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 18:39:34 -0000

>

>Anja

>When you come to London, if you want to get in touch, let me know. I live

>pretty close to Moorfields, and I have seen Mr. Collin too (but long ago).

>By the way, he is " Mr Collin " , as Hannah has written.

>In the UK, surgeons are called " Mr " (or Mrs, Ms) - not " Dr " .

>

>here is why:

>Surgeons, or rather male surgeons, are always addressed as Mr in the United

>Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, sometimes but not always in Australia

>and New Zealand, and rarely in Canada or the United States. This curious

>British tradition is such a mystery to doctors in other countries as well

>as

>to the British public, that even a work as erudite as the 1996 edition of

>The New Fowler's Modern English Usage seems to have got it wrong.1 Is it

>therefore a tradition that should be perpetuated indefinitely, or should it

>be abandoned?

>

>To understand how the tradition arose it is necessary to go back to the

>beginning of the 18th century, when physicians were distinguished by the

>possession of a university medical degree: an MD. Although many had

>acquired

>their MDs abroad with minimal effort or bought them for about £20 (about

>£800 today) from the Universy of Aberdeen or of St s, the possession

>of a medical doctorate entitled physicians and no other medical

>practitioner

>to be addressed as " doctor. " Eighteenth century surgeons, who were of

>course

>addressed as Mr, seldom had any formal qualification except in the case of

>the few who were Members of the Company of Surgeons. After the founding of

>the Royal College of Surgeons of London in 1800, however, it was customary

>for surgeons to take the examination for Membership of the Royal College of

>Surgeons and put MRCS after their name.2

>

>... Surgeons became so proud to be distinguished from physicians that the

>title of Mr became a badge of honour

>

>

>

>this quote came from:

>http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1589

>

>

>Shireen

> blepharophimosis Re: Moorfields Hospital

> >Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:06:32 -0000

> >

> >Hi Anja,

> >

> >Both my sister and I used the consultant eye surgeon Mr Collin @

> >Moorfields Eye Hospital in London. Although the hospital is NHS, as

> >Mr Collin is a consultant, you can use him privately which is the

> >route we took. I have put his secretary's numbers down below for

> >his private patients:-

> >

> >Mr Collin MA FRCS FRCOphth

> >020 7486 2699

> >020 7486 8626

> >

> >He is based in Harley Street in London.

> >

> >Mr Collin is the best surgeon that we saw and has a lot of expertise

> >in BPES correction (i think I should get some commission from him!!)

> >

> >Hope this helps,

> >

> >Hannah

> >

> >

> >

> > In blepharophimosis , " Anja Shahin "

> ><anjashahin@h...> wrote:

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I have a question for those who had their surgeries done at

> >Moorfelds

> > > Hospital in London.

> > > Do you have any surgeon names? Anyone able to recommend a surgeon

> >at

> > > Moorfields?

> > >

> > > Thank you

> > >

> > > Anja

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

> > > Die ultimative Fan-Seite für den MSN Messenger

> >http://www.ilovemessenger.de

> > > Emoticons und Hintergründe kostenlos downloaden!

> >

>

>_________________________________________________________________

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>

>

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Hi ,

Are you saying that you have had only 2 surgeries to get that fantastic

result??? You made my day! Would be great to meet up in London, I’ll get in

touch.

Anja

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>blepharophimosis

>Subject: Re: blepharophimosis RE: Re: Moorfields Hospital

>Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:56:59 EST

>

>hi anja ............. i went to falmouth hosp for my first op at the age of

>11 ... then to moorfields to have the big op ( muscle taken from my leg )

>at

>the age of 16 .......... if your coming to london let me know and maybe we

>can

>meet up ....... or call me and maybe i can help more ok :) scott

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Hi Anja,

I only had two operations too. The first (when I was 4) was to sort

the corners of my eyes out and then secondly (when I was 10) the leg

tendon operation with Mr Collin.

When are you coming to London?

Hannah

> Hi ,

> Are you saying that you have had only 2 surgeries to get that

fantastic

> result??? You made my day! Would be great to meet up in London,

I'll get in

> touch.

>

> Anja

>

> >From: SCOTTFILBEY@A...

> >Reply-blepharophimosis

> >blepharophimosis

> >Subject: Re: blepharophimosis RE: Re: Moorfields Hospital

> >Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:56:59 EST

> >

> >hi anja ............. i went to falmouth hosp for my first op at

the age of

> >11 ... then to moorfields to have the big op ( muscle taken from

my leg )

> >at

> >the age of 16 .......... if your coming to london let me know and

maybe we

> >can

> >meet up ....... or call me and maybe i can help more ok :) scott

>

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Hi Hannah, and all,

Wow, this is another evidence for that it really seems to depend on who

performs surgery.

The success also seems to have something to do with the age when surgery is

performed at. You were already ten years old and eleven. Do you

remember why they delayed the big surgery that long?

The surgeons we saw here in Germany recommended to waiting that long, too,

but I still don't trust them and I doubt that they have enough experience

especially with BPES related ptosis surgery.

They keep on saying that we should consider not to have any surgery done at

all, because the result would not be satisfactory!!! And they are very

reluctant when we ask for before and after pictures! Looking at your

pictures I really don't know what to believe any more, because the results

look absolutely perfect to me! I feel that it will be the best for a to

consult Mr. Collin in London and pay for her surgeries out of our own

pockets

rather to let any of the hackers over here operate on her!

We have not scheduled an appointment yet, but I'll let you know, when we are

coming.

Anja

> >From: " sadieben2000 " <hannah.goodman31@...>

> >Reply-blepharophimosis

> >blepharophimosis

> >Subject: blepharophimosis Re: Moorfields Hospital

> >Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:10:36 -0000

> >

> >Hi Anja,

> >

> >I only had two operations too. The first (when I was 4) was to sort

> >the corners of my eyes out and then secondly (when I was 10) the leg

> >tendon operation with Mr Collin.

> >

> >When are you coming to London?

> >

> >Hannah

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Are you saying that you have had only 2 surgeries to get that

> >fantastic

> > > result??? You made my day! Would be great to meet up in London,

> >I'll get in

> > > touch.

> > >

> > > Anja

> > >

> > > >From: SCOTTFILBEY@A...

> > > >Reply-blepharophimosis

> > > >blepharophimosis

> > > >Subject: Re: blepharophimosis RE: Re: Moorfields Hospital

> > > >Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:56:59 EST

> > > >

> > > >hi anja ............. i went to falmouth hosp for my first op at

> >the age of

> > > >11 ... then to moorfields to have the big op ( muscle taken from

> >my leg )

> > > >at

> > > >the age of 16 .......... if your coming to london let me know and

> >maybe we

> > > >can

> > > >meet up ....... or call me and maybe i can help more ok :) scott

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

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> >

>

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Don't want to get everybodies hopes down, and I must state I am very

inexperienced at this point, but doesn't the outcome of the

operations and the amount of operations necessary, also depend on

the severity of the BPEI Syndrom, not only on the experiences of the

Dr/Mr? I get the idea that less severe cases get best results. Could

anyone comment on this?

Thanks, Bernice

> they waited with me to have the big op because of my small

features. they

> wanted my face, muscles ect to get bigger . but with my son alnd

also my daughter

> they said to do it because they had to look so far back to see

forward it

> would have injured their neck muscles . thats why its done early

in some cases

> ..... im not sure of other hosp or there doctors but i still

believe mr collins

> is the best in the world and dont forget doctors all over the

world come to

> moorfields to learn . need i say more

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Hi Anja

This is great news! Am downloading the article at this minute.

Hurray for internet.

Thanks! Bernice

Bernice

> > > they waited with me to have the big op because of my small

> >features. they

> > > wanted my face, muscles ect to get bigger . but with my son

alnd

> >also my daughter

> > > they said to do it because they had to look so far back to see

> >forward it

> > > would have injured their neck muscles . thats why its done

early

> >in some cases

> > > ..... im not sure of other hosp or there doctors but i still

> >believe mr collins

> > > is the best in the world and dont forget doctors all over the

> >world come to

> > > moorfields to learn . need i say more

> >

>

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