Guest guest Posted August 26, 1999 Report Share Posted August 26, 1999 We need to change the name of this illness.Agent orange isnt VIETNAMN ILLNESS! Radition poisioning is not WWII illness,Mustard gas is not WWI illness.ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEAS......It is just not the gulf vets that are sick. Jim Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 1999 Report Share Posted August 27, 1999 DODitis! Re: A C T I O N idea ! > From: Jim Green <green@...> > > > > We need to change the name of this illness.Agent orange isnt VIETNAMN > ILLNESS! Radition poisioning is not WWII illness,Mustard gas is not WWI > illness.ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEAS......It is just not the gulf vets that > are sick. Jim Green > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 1999 Report Share Posted August 27, 1999 Jim, GWS or GWI or PGI, as it has been called, is inadequate and improper. The basic illness groups, of which we discuss is Defined clearly, GWS illnesses are Autoimmune-Neurological Diseases, with Connective Tissue Disorders. They are the result of vaccines (or other medical / surgical products), with additives known as adjuvants. The appropriate name for GWS and a large number of vaccine / adjuvant induced illnesses is HADS, Human Adjuvant Diseases. Rick Hope........rgs On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:48:40 -0400 Jim Green <green@...> writes: >From: Jim Green <green@...> > > > >We need to change the name of this illness.Agent orange isnt VIETNAMN >ILLNESS! Radition poisioning is not WWII illness,Mustard gas is not >WWI > illness.ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEAS......It is just not the gulf vets that > >are sick. Jim Green > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 1999 Report Share Posted August 28, 1999 List: Apparently these unvaccinated sailors were immune to gulfwar illness, along with the unvaccinated French. One wonders how come they were seemingly immune to catching it. Yet I find cases of gulfwar illness in our vaccinated Navy of the same period... Gretchen ========= IIR 6 807 0058 94/ of the gulflink files IIR 6 807 0058 94/BELGIAN SAILORS SHOW NO SIGNS OF Filename:68070058.94d ENVELOPE CDSN = LGX398 MCN = 93352/06995 TOR = 933520401 RTTCZYUW RUEKJCS7137 3520403---RUEALGX. ZNY HEADER R 180403Z DEC 93 FM DIA WASHINGTON DC INFO RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC RUEAHQA/CSAF WASHINGTON DC RUEACMC/CMC WASHINGTON DC RHFUMHE/BRFINK MHE BOERFINK GE RUETIAQ/MPC FT GEORGE G MEADE MD RUCQVAB/USCINCSOC INTEL OPS CEN MACDILL AFB FL RUQYSDG/FOSIF ROTA SP RUEOFAA/COMJSOC FT BRAGG NC//J2// RULKQAN/MARCORINTACT DET QUANTICO VA RUEALGX/SAFE R 171529Z DEC 93 FM [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] TO RUEKJCS/DIA WASHDC INFO RUEKJCS/DIA WASHDC//CH-1// RUSNNOA/USCINCEUR VAIHINGEN GE//ECJ2/ECJ5// RUFGAID/USCINCEUR INTEL VAIHINGEN GE RUFTAKC/UDITDUSAREUR HEIDELBERG GE RUFTAKA/UCIRF AUGSBURG GE [ b.2. ] RHFQAAA/HQUSAFE RAMSTEIN AB GE//INOW/INO// RHFPAAA/UTAIS RAMSTEIN AB GE//OLRS DET 3 26IW// RHDLCNE/CINCUSNAVEUR LONDON UK//N2// [ ((2) ] RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHDC RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC RUEKJCS/JOINT STAFF WASHDC//J-5// RUEATAC/CDRUSAITAC WASHDC RUEADWD/HQDA WASHDC//DAMO-SSM/DAMI-FI// RUCIAEA/FASTC WPAFB OH//XOOD// RUEOAYB/FSTCINTELOPS CHARLOTTESVILLE VA//AIFICA// RHFFAAA/CDRSTCEUR FRANKFURT GE//AMXMI-E-OP// RUEHNO/USDELMC BRUSSELS BE RUEHNO/USMISSION USNATO RUFQAAA/USNMR SHAPE BE//SPACOS/DIA REP// [ ((2) ] [ ((2) ] [ ((2) ] RUEORDF/DIRAFMIC FT DETRICK MD RUCQAAA/USCINCCENT INTEL CEN MACDILL AFB FL//CCJ2// BT CONTROLS [ ((2) ] SERIAL: (U) IIR 6 807 0058 94. /*********** THIS IS A COMBINED MESSAGE ************/ BODY COUNTRY: (U) BELGUIM SUBJ: IIR 6 807 0058 94/BELGIAN SAILORS SHOW NO SIGNS OF PERSIAN GULF SYNDROME (U) WARNING: (U) THIS IS AN INFORMATION REPORT, NOT FINALLY EVALUATED INTELLIGENCE. ------------------------------------------------------- - DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ------------------------------------------------------- DOI: (U) 931118; 930205. REQS: (U) [ ((2) ] SOURCE: A. (U) [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] SUMMARY: (U) CHIEF OF BELGIAN JOINT MEDICAL COMMAND RECEIVED QUESTION FROM PARLIAMENT ABOUT STATE OF HEALTH OF BELGIAN SAILORS WHO SERVED IN PERSIAN GULF. MEDICAL COMMAND HAS DETECTED NO INCIDENTS OF UNUSUAL ILLNESS AMONG VETERANS OF GULF WAR TO PRESENT DATE. TEXT: 1. (U) AS A RESULT OF PRELIMINARY COORDINATION OF A POSSIBLE CODEL VISIT TO BELGIUM TO DISCUSS THE MYSTERIOUS SYMPTOMS APPEARING AMONG MANY U.S. VETERANS OF THE PERSIAN GULF CONFLICT, [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE WITH [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] SAID THAT REACTING TO A STORY IN THE BELGIAN PRESS ABOUT THE MEDICAL PROBLEMS BEING EXPERIENCED BY AMERICAN VETERANS OF THE GULF WAR, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO A MEMBER OF THE BELGIAN PARLIAMENT ASKED AN OFFICIAL QUESTION OF THE GOVERNMENT CONCERNING THE POSSIBILITY THAT BELGIAN SAILORS WHO HAD SERVED IN THE GULF MAY BE EXPERIENCING SIMILAR MEDICAL PROBLEMS. ACCORDING TO SOURCE, THE BELGIAN MEDICAL COMMAND ANSWERED OFFICIALLY TO THE PARLIAMENT THAT UP TO NOW THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIMILAR CASES OR SYMPTOMS REPORTED THROUGH MEDICAL CHANNELS IN BELGIUM. 2. (U) A COMPLETE TRANSLATION OF THE QUESTION ASKED BY BELGIAN SENATOR (VERMEIREN) IS AS FOLLOWS: QUESTION: IT SEEMS THAT SOME U.S. SOLDIERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN OPERATION DESERT STORM SUFFER FROM SOME MEDICAL PROBLEMS. THE SYMPTOMS OBSERVED ARE LISTLESSNESS AND AN UNEXPLAINABLE FATIGUE. WITHIN THIS SUBJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SIMILAR SYMPTOMS HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED BY BELGIAN NAVY SAILORS WHO SERVED ABOARD MINE-CLEARING VESSELS IN THE PERSIAN GULF DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM. DID ANY OF THE ABOVE NOTED SYMPTOMS OCCUR AND WERE THEY NOTED AS SUCH? CAN THERE BE AN INVESTIGATION CONCERNING THIS MATTER? 3. A COMPLETE TRANSLATION OF THE ANSWER PROVIDED BY THE BELGIAN JOINT MILITARY MEDICAL COMMAND WHICH WAS CLEARED THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE IS AS FOLLOWS: ANSWER: THE SYMPTOMS OF INEXPLICABLE APATHY AND OF FATIGUE AMONG THE PERSONNEL WHO PARTICIPATED IN PERSIAN GULF ACTIONS ARE NOT KNOWN TO THE MEDICAL SERVICE OF THE NAVY. 4. [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] BROADENED THIS ANSWER TO ENCOMPASS ALL SERVICES OF THE BELGIAN ARMED FORCES. [ ((1) sec 1.3(a)(4) ] //IPSP: (U) PG 2650; PG 2520. //COMSOBJ: (U) [ b.2. ] ADMIN PROJ: (U). INSTR: (U) [ ((2) ] PREP: (U) [ ((2) ] ACQ: (U) [ ((2) ] DISSEM: (U) [ ((2) ] WARNING: BT #7138 NNNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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